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    ^^^

    What the hell are you talking about?
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    i think he's referring to the Kyubi cock as the 10th tail
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    The Heretic Azazel, after reading two of your post, i have been wonder that are you really pay attention as watching or at least reading the Naruto Manga? Because you missing a lot of point. Why don't you watch the anime ep. 16 (at the end) and ep. 132- 134, read chapter 261to the recently carefully. Perhap you will know what i am talking about.

    AssertnFailure, Please be carefull with the language. I repect that you posts a lot of comment, but that doesn't mean you can say "fool language". I say "fool language" because i don't think an education person will say it, and i believe you are an education person, honestly. I divide it the head and nine tail to ten parts because those evidence above. In addition, i believe that correct because most of people divide their strength to 100%. With ten part, that sounds like a good division to me, 10% per each part. However, if you have a better theory. I am more than happy to heard it.

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    nobody understands you, dragon.......
    why would someone count a creature's HEAD as one of his TAILS? It makes no sense.

    And you say that counting the head makes it total to 10, which divides evenly into 100....
    well what about the demon that has 8 tails? if you count HIS head, then that makes 9, which DOESNT divide into 100
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    Cock is foul language?

    What about dick, penis, shaft, rod, etc?
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    dragon608608, you and your logic is fucking retarded.
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    I think he is trying to say that because the first transformation that Naruto underwent was in his facial features (His eyes turned red, his "whiskers" thickened, his teeth grew sharp, etc.) then that means that the head of Kyuubi is the first manifestation of its basic strength. Then when Naruto fought Sasuke he also gained one tail in addition to the facial features. And he is relating that to believing that each tail that he gains would give him more strength. Although his point about developing more tails is kind of a no-brainer and highly irrelevant, because we all know that Naruto will be more fox-like as he uses more of the Kyuubi chakra. But the number of tails is nothing more than symbolic artwork to display that Naruto is using the chakra and growing stronger as a result. Every anime has this, where the characters will have a brighter, wider, aura so that the viewers can visibly see how much strength the character has and/or is using.

    As far as the head counting as a tail to equal ten and all of that crap... It is a stupid argument. Like American Hero said, all of the demons have heads, so why should Kyuubi's head be more special and count as a tail? Dragon should take his own advice and watch the series more closely and he would see why his argument is incorrect. The answer is Gaara. When Gaara began his tansformation into Shukaku the first thing that transformed was his arm, NOT his head. Dragon's argument goes out the window right there. Or are we to believe then, that the demon's arm should also count as a tail? No, I think not. In fact, his head was the LAST part to transform. So the head of the demon has nothing to do with its power.

    Its a stupid theory and a stupid argument that he has no real base for making and the attempt to justify by saying that its true because it divides into 100 makes it even stupider for the reasons that Assertn stated.

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    let me get this argument straight, dragon 608608 thinks that the kyubi has 10 tails?
    that's about as stupid as saying that a 'red crow' (this isn't a real animal) is green.

    Kyuubi comes from two words.
    Kyu - 9, and the 'bi' comes from the word tail, as presented in Bijiyu.
    so basically, the nine tails demon has nine tails.
    I think this should set the argument stragiht, unless of course, i didn't understand what you were disscussing about.

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    I don't think anyone understands this "discussion"
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    I didn't say Kyuubi has 10 tails. I said and continue to say it has 9 tails, please read my post in pages 5. My prediction base main on what happen in anime and manga. Let's look at Naruto anime ep. 17! is isn't it charka take form of Kyuubi head? Let's look at Naruto anime ep. 132-134. isn't Naruto activate Naruto power when Sasuke wrap his neck? Then he activate level two, and the charka take form of a one tail fox? Base on this, I predict that the next level perhap will be a fox with two tail, next will be 3 until it reach 9. There will be total of 10 transformations or 10 levels. That is what i try to predict.

    "At each new level reach, Kyuubi will grant its user (Jinchuuriki) different power."

    why? Naruto's Kyuubi level one, he got the healing power, some speed and strength. Naruto's Kyuubi's level two, Naruto got faster and stronger, he also gain a self moving charka that protect him as well as attack enemy.

    The Kyuubi has most tails, most transformation. Therefore, it will grant its user the most different abilities, or power. This theory, perhap, is enough to explains why Itachi doesn't want Sasori to steal his Jinchuuriki. I mean there are enough demon for all member, but why Itachi pay too much attention on Kyuubi that he doesn't want to tell anything about Naruto to Sasori until the leader command him too. That is what i try to say. However, i didn't say it was 100% correct. Perhap, i am wrong. However, for now, it is the best theory to me because it connects everything together.

    If you have a different theory or two, i am more than happy to listen. Then, we can continue to observe the series and continue to update and share our theory.

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    Its hard to understand what he is trying to say because English obviously isn't his first language, nor is he very good at it. So he is having trouble getting his point accross in writing. I understand what he is trying to say, but its still stupid.

    He doesn't mean that the head is a tail. When he is talking about "tails" he means appendages. He is trying to say that the head and the tails are appendages, which manifest themselves as a form strength. Meaning that each time Naruto reaches a new level of "Kyuubi Strength", he will develope a new appendage.
    In other words, he is trying to explain the Kyuubi chakra in levels and each level has a different number of appendages to represent it, with a total of 10 levels:
    Level 1 Kyuubi Naruto = Head
    Level 2 Kyuubi Naruto = One Tail
    Level 3 Kyuubi Naruto = Two Tails
    Level 4 Kyuubi Naruto = Three Tails
    Level 5 Kyuubi Naruto = Four Tails
    and so on, until Naruto has maxed out the Kyuubi chakra and level 10 and he will have all 9 tails visible and likely take the appearance of the fox itself.

    For the most part, that is true, but its something that we all know already, especially those of us who have watched other anime (DBZ anyone?) So like I said before, its a no-brainer and completely irrelevant and hardly worth bragging about that he "told us so"

    Where he lost everyone was by calling the head a "tail" and saying that Kyuubi has 10 tails. But his theory on the demon's heads is stupid and proven wrong by the fact that the Shukaku head did not manifest in Gaara until he was almost completey transformed.

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    theres no level 10 or even level 9 kyuubi mode. think about it... in lvl 2 the chakra is already destroying naruto's body. If naruto goes lvl9 kyuubi, his body will burn to ashes instantly.

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    I highly doubt there will be 10 different levels of transformation for naruto

    considering how long it took to reach 2 levels, that would just be ridiculous
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    I don't really see how it destroyed his body, though one might surmise that his body couldn't handle 9 or 10 or whatever transformations since the first two alone jacked him up so much.

    Also on the Kyuubi/Shukaku thing, that's a little different. They're both possessed by monsters but Naruto hasn't, at least not yet, had physical features of the Kyuubi (he controls his chakra but doesn't turn into the actual monster) whereas Gaara's is more of a transformation into the Shukaku and then is taken over by it.. and it commonly has a physical form, since it transforms monthly.
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    Yeah, it is a little different, but its not really too much different though. Gaara has full use of Shukaku because he was designed to be a weapon while Naruto is still just learning about Kyuubi because it was meant to be kept a secret. If Naruto had been trained and developed to use the Kyuubi from birth, then he may have the same type of subordination that Gaara has with Shukaku. We have seen Naruto transform slightly, mostly his facial features. He transformed slightly more when he fought Sasuke as far as his nails growing longer as well as his body contorting to being on all fours. But that is likely to be the extent of his transformations. I don't really think that he will actually "transform" because his actual body stays human, he just has an aura which took the form of the fox. So if anything were to actually transform about Naruto, it would be that aura and not his body.

    As far as the 10 lvls thing...
    There will be various strengths reached by Naruto as he is able to release more of the chakra, and the red aura around him will represent that by being bigger and glowing brighter. We know this already, we've seen it in the series already. So I'm not sure why dragon thinks he has a ground breaking new theory. Just because there are that many tails doesn't mean each one is a stage. We have already seen Naruto use different levels of the kyuubi chakra with varying facial features and chakra auras. For Dragon to assume that the facial features = Kyuubi lvl 1 is a bit rediculous since it can be argued that the facial feature changes have already represented 2-3 varying lvls of Kyuubi's strength. There won't be 10 stages, or nine, and there won't be any stated definitive stages at all.

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    Originally posted by: dragon608608
    I didn't say Kyuubi has 10 tails. I said and continue to say it has 9 tails, please read my post in pages 5. My prediction base main on what happen in anime and manga. Let's look at Naruto anime ep. 17! is isn't it charka take form of Kyuubi head? Let's look at Naruto anime ep. 132-134. isn't Naruto activate Naruto power when Sasuke wrap his neck? Then he activate level two, and the charka take form of a one tail fox? Base on this, I predict that the next level perhap will be a fox with two tail, next will be 3 until it reach 9. There will be total of 10 transformations or 10 levels. That is what i try to predict.

    "At each new level reach, Kyuubi will grant its user (Jinchuuriki) different power."

    why? Naruto's Kyuubi level one, he got the healing power, some speed and strength. Naruto's Kyuubi's level two, Naruto got faster and stronger, he also gain a self moving charka that protect him as well as attack enemy.

    The Kyuubi has most tails, most transformation. Therefore, it will grant its user the most different abilities, or power. This theory, perhap, is enough to explains why Itachi doesn't want Sasori to steal his Jinchuuriki. I mean there are enough demon for all member, but why Itachi pay too much attention on Kyuubi that he doesn't want to tell anything about Naruto to Sasori until the leader command him too. That is what i try to say. However, i didn't say it was 100% correct. Perhap, i am wrong. However, for now, it is the best theory to me because it connects everything together.

    If you have a different theory or two, i am more than happy to listen. Then, we can continue to observe the series and continue to update and share our theory.
    Oh I see. Now this theory make sense, marginally. The problem now is that if you take a look at naruto's fight against neiji in episode 62, all nine of the demon's tails are out. Take a look at naruto during the zabuza fight at around eps 16-17, and his features were far more feral. Also, when the tails alone manifested in the neiji fight, naruto had feral features in his face, but again, not as intense as in the zabuza fight. I suppose I can get on board with the theory that different parts of the demon will grant different powers to it's container, but not the way you stated it. It might be true, but as of right now, the kyubi appearances in the form of chakra seem to be simply artistic renditions made for dramatic effect.
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    the kyubi appearances in the form of chakra seem to be simply artistic renditions made for dramatic effect.
    Yes, excellent way to put. I said this earlier, but I may have worded it poorly. You said it better. thanks.

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