hmm cool trap on the tags being pulled. fighting against yourself will be hard.
hmm cool trap on the tags being pulled. fighting against yourself will be hard.
shukaku didnt fight kyubi
shukaku fought gamabunta, who at one point took the appearance of a fox
and shukaku wasnt really DEFEATED.....he was just sealed back away because naruto woke gaara up
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Originally posted by: Marks
It seems I was wrong, they didn't say it was the strongest in the first episode of the anime. Maybe it was during Narutos training with Jiraia before the chunnin finals. AH who cares! The Kyubi is wicked awesome anyway. Maybe more of the jinchuuriki eyes would have opened if they used the Kyubi.
Edit: I bet they had that jinchuuriki ready way back when they made their atempt to get Naruto. Then when Naruto went with Jiraia they decided to go after Gaara instead. I bet Itachi objected saying he could handle it anyway, but they still went for Gaara. And I think that's why they're messing with Itachi now.
They said that Kyuubi was the strongest of the yoma during this arc. It was in one of the dialouges between Kakashi and Chiyo. I don't remember which chapter though. But it has also been implied throughout the series.
I have no doubt that we will be kept in suspense, waiting to see the actual Team 7 vs Akatsuki battle. I expect to see the next 2 chapters focus on Team Gai vs Evil Team Gai, with maybe 3 pages per chapter dedicated to Team 7 in the cave.Originally posted by: Kagemane_no_Jutsu
If they show that mad fag clone fight before Naruto FINALLY fights a real Akatsuki, I'ma be pissed.
I would be very surprised if we got to see Naruto taking on Akatsuki before Team Gai defeats the clones. The best we can hope for is a 50/50 jumping back and forth between the battles, ala Oro vs 3rd/Gaara vs Naruto.
I think the whole clone thing is "stupid", in the sense that it really feels like Kishimoto wants to buy time.
Fine, introduce mirror matches if you want... but please, just let Deidara kick some ass.
about the demon's power thing, I think the more tails they have, the stronger they are. Just a thought though, although it sorta makes sense. Since they say that the kyuubi could start earthquakes and such things by just flicking its tails. Perhaps the amount of tails determines how strong what a demon can do?
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That would be just plain dumb.
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But fitting for Kishi. Most of what he does is pretty obvious. The Main character not haveing the strongest of the demons sealed away in him would be so unshonen. You get used to it and accept it for what it is. Just wait terra, all the waiting shall be repaid in full.
there doesnt have to be a direct correlation between the demons' strength and the number of tails
i believe it was stated that kyubi is the strongest, but shukaku doesnt necessarily have to be the weakest
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
actually, there is a connection between the number of tails and the strentgh of the demon, at least there should be.
1. The demons are called 'tailed beasts' by Chiyo, meanning that the main emphatsis is on thier tail.
2. According to japanese mythology, the fox demon gains tails as he grows in age, and each tail addition represents the strenght he has.
if you read chapter 256 again, I believe it'll be a bit clearer for you, thought they don't say it directly.
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so your saying the kyubi inside naruto will continue growing tails? that doesnt make sense.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
no, i think he's saying that the amount of tails a demon has signifies how much strength there is inside.
256 made no reference to the difference in strength between the demons.......
only the difference in the number of tails
I'm familiar with the myth that a kyubi is stronger as it grows more tails, and that the 9th tail grants it immortality
But that is just a myth for the kyubi itself. Maybe 1 shukaku tail = 7 kyubi tails [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
i think that kishimoto is completely wasting time... i mean the whole psuedo itachi/kisame fights were proff of that... 6 freckin chapters and not a damn thing happened to further the plot... hopefully we will get somewhere in the next chapter, and hopefully the mirror match wont be lame... who knows... maybe someone will lose and be replaced by the mirror version (most likely to be ten ten) but i doubt that will happenOriginally posted by: Terracosmo
I think the whole clone thing is "stupid", in the sense that it really feels like Kishimoto wants to buy time.
Fine, introduce mirror matches if you want... but please, just let Deidara kick some ass.
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acctually by doing that we were further able to see the skills of atakuski and also, the plot DID advance, as a result of the stalling, Garra's Shukaku was extracted from him.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
then Kishimoto is pulling the same thing he's done with Kimimaru...
instead of actually providing us some answers to the real questions (akatsuki, demons and what not), he makes up a stupid rule and then wastes seven chapters pushing through that rule.
oh, and even after the fight between Sasori, deidara and the good guys, we'll be nowhere close to learnning anything new about anything, deidara will probably say poof and escape, Chiyo will kill Sasori and have a flashback death scene, and Sakura will save Gaara from his so called death. and again, we'll have to wait for a few more months to get any real information about something.
seriously, if we're gonna have a clone vs originial matches now i'm gonna burst, unless one of you believes that the clones have any chance to win over the real guys...
if kishimoto has a shard of respect left for his readers, then he'll end the clone fight in one page with 5 panels:
1. gai clone attacks
2. Neji gets hit by clone
3. Lee gets up and hits the clone
4. Tenten sticks alot of weapons into the clone and makes it go poof
5. Neji reports to Gai that he has taken care of his clone.
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after spending about 100 chapters just on sasuke's escape, do you really think kishimoto's suddenly gonna fast forward all the fights? i think if we're lucky, we'll see 2 fights per chapter. otherwise, i think kishi's gonna intersperse the whole sitch w/ naruto and co. w/ the clone fights (which are quite cliched, really =P)
well, whatever. we should be able to get a general idea of what direction kishimoto's gonna go in with this with the next chapter =P i'm guessing 3 or 4 more chapters of this. and that's being hopeful hahah
Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
then Kishimoto is pulling the same thing he's done with Kimimaru...
instead of actually providing us some answers to the real questions (akatsuki, demons and what not), he makes up a stupid rule and then wastes seven chapters pushing through that rule.
oh, and even after the fight between Sasori, deidara and the good guys, we'll be nowhere close to learnning anything new about anything, deidara will probably say poof and escape, Chiyo will kill Sasori and have a flashback death scene, and Sakura will save Gaara from his so called death. and again, we'll have to wait for a few more months to get any real information about something.
seriously, if we're gonna have a clone vs originial matches now i'm gonna burst, unless one of you believes that the clones have any chance to win over the real guys...
if kishimoto has a shard of respect left for his readers, then he'll end the clone fight in one page with 5 panels:
1. gai clone attacks
2. Neji gets hit by clone
3. Lee gets up and hits the clone
4. Tenten sticks alot of weapons into the clone and makes it go poof
5. Neji reports to Gai that he has taken care of his clone.
I love how some people chalk up what they don't like about the current storylines to a disrespect Kishimoto has for his fans. It's his story, get over it.
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the point of having team gai fight the clones is so the fight in the cave will be 2v4 instead of 2v8
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Originally posted by: RasenDori
i think that kishimoto is completely wasting time... i mean the whole psuedo itachi/kisame fights were proff of that... 6 freckin chapters and not a damn thing happened to further the plot... hopefully we will get somewhere in the next chapter, and hopefully the mirror match wont be lame... who knows... maybe someone will lose and be replaced by the mirror version (most likely to be ten ten) but i doubt that will happenOriginally posted by: Terracosmo
I think the whole clone thing is "stupid", in the sense that it really feels like Kishimoto wants to buy time.
Fine, introduce mirror matches if you want... but please, just let Deidara kick some ass.
Come on guys. Not everything that gets put in the manga needs to push the plot foward. Somethings are there to promote a view/impression of people. For example, last time we saw the shark guy fight, he didn't do much, and it was hard to see why he was a member of akatsuki if they were supposed to be this group of mighty cosmobeings or whatever. Seeing a fight between him at 30% chakra and team guy, in which he managed to force Guy to pull out a trump card served to justify him as a member of akatsuki. The itachi vs. team kakashi fight served to demonstrate the true power of genjutsu and to show that itachi relies heavily on genjutsu. These are all good things to know and are not a waste of time.
Edit to below: Ok, maybe that too. But naruto being the king of all drama queens is something most of us are familiar with already.
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I actually thought the whole point of the Itachi vs. team seven fight was to show that naruto was carrying a heavy load of emotional baggage. Essentially we were shown that he has a tremedous amount of guilt that's built up over the past 2 1/2 years. It's a nice thing to see since it shows that naruto has become a more emotionally mature and more complicated character as opposed to being the simpleton we once knew. Now If only we could see him use some new jutsu.
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