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    i never said ionly use 1024x, i only mentioned the refreshrate @ that reso, and no, i see lcd screens ( every brand) every goddamn day, and still none have surpassed the brightness lvls of my lg monitor
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    my situation is sort of the opposite. I see LCDs and CRTs every day. The thing is, the LCDs are quality, and the CRTs are so-so (trinitrons, mostly).

    Given the choice between a pair of dell 1801fp's and a pair of dell 19 inch crts, all of my developers have aimed for the 18 inch lcds.

    Sure, you can find exceptional crt monitors that you might prefer to lcds. But it's completely shortsighted to say that that makes all lcds inherently inferior to all crts.

    But whatever. If you really honestly prefer your crt, that's fine. But I still sustain that in the average case and in the better-than-average case, you're wrong :-p. I would pit my 2001fp's readability and image quality at 1600x1200 resolution against any ~$500 CRT (which probably means a 21 or 22 incher) any day. Further, viewing angle points are completely wrong about any modern decent LCD -- again take my 2001fp as an example, with it's ~170 degree horizontal and verticle angles.

    In the 15 or so lcds I work with on a day to day basis, I've counted a grand total of 2 dead pixels. One's on my 12 inch g3 ibook, and one's on my director's 15 inch g4 powerbook. Maybe I'm just lucky, but two dead pixels out of nearly 20 million across 3 generations and going on 2 years of use is a pretty damned good average, in my opinion. I have four backlights that are beginning to show a little dimming, and I figure I'll get 2 or 3 more years out of the panels before anyone complains about them (giving them 4-5 years of lifespan, which is about what I'm getting out of the CRTs in my lab before the image deteriorates too much to continue using them, so I don't feel too bad about it).

    But again, to each his own. Everyone has specific picky things they look for in a monitor, and some people will never be satisfied with one side or the other because it's simply not what they prefer.

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    Would u guys mind telling me how you set up dual monitors?

    I'm working on a laptop as my main PC, but I also have a spare CRT Sony Vaio Monitor on the spare.

    Can anyone tell me how to set it up?

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    I have my 20 inch Tv hooked up to my computer all the time. It saves time when watching movies. Also it looks crisp. I have been doing this since my Radeon 7500

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    Originally posted by: lilphatboi88
    Would u guys mind telling me how you set up dual monitors?

    I'm working on a laptop as my main PC, but I also have a spare CRT Sony Vaio Monitor on the spare.

    Can anyone tell me how to set it up?

    check your video card, if it has two inputs ( 2x dvi or dvi, vga), connect the other monitor also on it, go into your advanced display proporties, and set you other monitr on either clone or extend
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    my friend got a brand new 18in LCD and it already came with 2 dead pixels
    both were dead in the ON state, no less....so he constantly has a tiny blue spot and a tiny red spot

    sometimes you can have dead pixels without ever noticing.....if the pixel is dead in the on state, but somewhere where you always have white (for example im using the silver toolbar scheme for my windows so the pixels in the bottom row are almost ALWAYS white) then you wont even notice.
    Pixels that are dead in the off state, well, those are hard to see anyway

    http://www.gdargaud.net/Hack/DeadPixels.html
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    so i don't understand you guys are saying the quality on those old mon is even better than the mons we use now?

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    LCD monitors are not as high res as old CRT and Tv's. This is why most hardcore gamers do not have LCD screens. It makes their $500 Videocard useless. Many people use 2 monitors for a personal Media Center. I have my computer as a computer but it is also hooked up to my Tv so i can watch Movies and what not on it.

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    Originally posted by: 010577
    so i don't understand you guys are saying the quality on those old mon is even better than the mons we use now?
    In terms of quality, yes the "old" monitors are better than the "new" monitors.

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    Alright, Thanks Darkshadow.

    Although I still have a problem. When I have two monitors, I can use the other for full-screen games or something like that right.? The only thing that seems to be happening is the clone option, and i can't get the extend.

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    depends on your video card drivers. Many laptops (especially older ones) don't support dualhead operation. Look around in the video card driver, particularly in the card-specific advanced properties pages, see if there's dualhead or dual display config options.

    Totally depends on your video card driver though. You might try looking for an updated driver version, which might enable it, or might not. Who knows?

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    Originally posted by: lilphatboi88
    Alright, Thanks Darkshadow.

    Although I still have a problem. When I have two monitors, I can use the other for full-screen games or something like that right.? The only thing that seems to be happening is the clone option, and i can't get the extend.
    The display modes are usually in your video card driver settings. And no, I read an article somewhere that says you can't multitask while playing full screen games. I can't tried it, and I won't either. My guess is that since the game is "fullscreen", it means it's the active program, and it has control over keyboard and mouse. So even though the other monitor is vacant, you can't perform other tasks as long as the game is active.

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    many fullscreen games can run in "windowed" mode though. And a friend of mine wrote a directx wrapper that forces other dx games into windowed mode (which came in very handy for civ3, though it wasn't perfect). But yeah, if it's running in fullscreen mode, the only way you could "multitask" is to hit alt-tab, which some apps don't support (either catch and drop, or crash, or whatever).

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    I recently started using two monitors and I must say, things are alot more organized now [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]. Its makes things so much easier when your looking up stuff. I was following a tutorial to use for PhotoShop and I put the tutorial on the other monitor. Gone are the days of constant maximizing/minimizing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]. Quick question though, is it possible to have two separate wallpapers for each monitor? If so, can you tell me how to do it?
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    NM, what i do....is create 1 wallpaper that stretches over both monitors....

    1) figure out the combined width/height of your dual monitor setup (if you have both monitors set to 1024x768 and horizontally next to each other, for example, then make the image 2048x768). If they are different resolutions, then just take the height of the larger resolution.

    2) make your wallpaper or just combine 2 different ones on the canvas. Keep in mind pixel dimensions so one wallpaper doesnt flow into both monitors. If both are the same resolution, then its easy: just make one cover the left half, and one cover the right half.

    3) save the image and set it as your wallpaper. Then in the display properties, set your wallpaper to "tile" and it should take care of the rest.
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    These days my lab is pretty freaking awesome. I'm getting very close to my goal of every workstation having dual monitors, and very close to getting rid of all of the non-black displays, too.



    And even better ... dual widescreens!



    (ahh, machine pr0n)

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    thats just awesome XD
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    lol, thats wicked DELL mania

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    yeah ..... dell gives us about 20% on average off of the lowest consumer prices you can get ... and they're on our university's "preferred vendor" list, so we don't have to do a lot of paperwork to order from them.

    Every time I've bought dell stuff, I've compared 3 or 4 other brands (hp/compaq, ibm, sun, gateway are the usual suspects). Dell is pretty much always cheaper for better stuff... but ....

    I want the next server I buy to be a sun dual opty though. Turns out that price point is right about where the dell dual xeon price point is. And since almost everything we do server-side is java, it'd be interesting to have some particularly nice hardware running solaris 10, just to see how it compares to running.

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    Awesome, but the dual-widescreens are elevated quite a bit though. I prefer to have the center of the monitor just a bit below eye level.

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