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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Ah, see, there's the flaw in his analysys. 50 meters is the range of his all around vision. He also has 1 mile see through vision, but it's extremely narrow. It's like, okay, I can see a mile away, a spot 20 feet wide. And even doing that has to concentrate.

    Kido doesn't have to be a mile away. He just has to be more than 50 meters away and not be DIRECTLY in front of Neji to avoid being seen.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Without either of those two actually busting out a tapemeasurer in that episode we're never going to know if Kido was out of Neji's range or not.

    But darth, and I might be wrong here, assuming Neji can only focus on a spot 20 feet wide (6 meters) past 50 meters away.
    If Kido gets past 50 feet away, and Neji doesn't initially know what direction he went, Kido's distance from Neji is enough to not get cought in his All-Around Vision.
    What's more (still assuming Neji doesn't know where to look for Kido) the circumference of the circle that Neji has to scan to find Kido is 157 meters (515 feet)
    That mean's Neji has to do about 26 long distance Byakugan scans (even more if Kido is farther away than 50 meters)

    But, once Neji KNOWS Kido is aiming for his blind spot.... well then unless Kido is really fast (he is a ninja with many arms, traveling through forest is probably easy) then Neji's search distance (after dodging/cringing) will only have a 50/50 chance of finding Kido (assuming Kido moves from his sniping spot, which he'd be a fool not to do). If Neji scans to the right of the sniper point, but Kido moved in the other direction, he won't catch him (hence the 50/50). All of the success in this method depends on if Neji can do a Long Distance Byakugan search faster than Kido can run a distance of 20 feet. If Kido can move faster than Neji can scan, Neji won't be able to see where he is.

    Here's where Neji can (and should, if he's any good) win the fight. Kido is going for his blind spot. All Neji has to do is dodge twice, facing the direction the arrow came from each time. Between the first arrow and the second is the time it'll take for Kido to move to the spot, set up and fire. And Neji should also know by now that Kido is aiming from his blind spot. Neji takes 5-10 seconds off the time he projects for Kido's travel and he can rush Kido while the guy is readying his attack.

    They should really teach these ninjas some math (although my analysis depends on alot of unsure numbers, most just suggested by people in this thread.) Neji, however, should know how far, how wide and how fast he can search an area though.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    After exerting all that effort, im surprised Choji didn't have a coronary. Its a wonder any thing can even move in those Cholesterol filled veins. Hes always eating chips >_<

    Neji is too arrogant to die just yet. I don't like his attitude, but he has the stuff to back it up seems like, so why not?

    If only someone would take out Sakura, that would make me happy!

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Originally posted by: ImitationSanen
    After exerting all that effort, im surprised Choji didn't have a coronary. Its a wonder any thing can even move in those Cholesterol filled veins. Hes always eating chips >_<

    Neji is too arrogant to die just yet. I don't like his attitude, but he has the stuff to back it up seems like, so why not?

    If only someone would take out Sakura, that would make me happy!
    Now Y would you want Sakura Dead??? She is one of the stars of the show and hey she is training hard to be a medical Ninja to prove herself to the likes of you.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    I honestly thought it would have been much more dramatic if Kishimoto had choosen to kill both of them off. They got some really good death scenes as well. Annoys me that he didn't in the end though.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    That's very true. All shows must end once, and Naruto is a story about Naruto and Sasuke, mainly, so it would have been reasonable that Neji and Choji would have already served their purposes. They had nice fights and scenes in the chuunin exam and the chase, so they wouldn't have been superficial characters. Their funeral (and reminiscence) would have made a really good scene as well. Much better probably than their recovery. Whatever happens after the time jump, I'm pretty sure it could have been written even without Neji and Choji.

    But I guess Naruto is too lightweight a series for such things to happen. Unfortunately.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Ahh, but the Deaths of Neji and Choji would have solidified the hatred of the kunoha to Orochimaru and those involved with him, Sasuke being among them. Not to mention, one of the main premise of the series is how Naruto changes people. I.E, Garaa and Neji, both characters have come a long way due to the change in outlook brought on by Naruto. Killing off Neji would have deterred from that changing of destiny that Naruto worked to achieve, and undermine our hero.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Not at all. If Naruto hadn't changed Neji, it's quite likely Neji wouldn't have fought so close to death just to save somebody he hardly knew (especially when "saving" Sasuke was a somewhat dubious undertaking in general, considering the risks). After all, before Naruto taught him otherwise, the sole purpose of Neji's existence seemed to be to mourn his lost freedom and cultivate his feelings of hatred and contempt. Being able to risk his life for something he believes in, no matter what he previously thought his destiny is, is part of what he learnt after the fight with Naruto.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Originally posted by: MastercusNow Y would you want Sakura Dead??? She is one of the stars of the show and hey she is training hard to be a medical Ninja to prove herself to the likes of you.
    Yeah, she's totally busting her ass so she can move up from being the Naruto equivalent of Bulma to the Naruto equivalent of Dende. Lofty goals!

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Originally posted by: DarthEnder
    Originally posted by: MastercusNow Y would you want Sakura Dead??? She is one of the stars of the show and hey she is training hard to be a medical Ninja to prove herself to the likes of you.
    Yeah, she's totally busting her ass so she can move up from being the Naruto equivalent of Bulma to the Naruto equivalent of Dende. Lofty goals!
    Hey....I thought we were cutting out the DBZ references. Besides....Atleast Sakura is hotter than Dende, and not A-Sexual.

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Originally posted by: NineTailsKitsu
    Hey....I thought we were cutting out the DBZ references.
    Never!

    I'll be 90 years old on my deathbed comparing Sasuke the 6th from Naruto GT Seed Destiny to Vegeta!

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    Are you surprised that Neiji and Chouji survived?

    Chouji/Neji won their fights and it would have been too lame to die from the wounds made by some goon characters.

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