Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai

**PTX-003C** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by: Psyke

Originally posted by: PTX-003C
well...i am just telling the truth...he didn't do enough line work and knife work to make the model to look good...
i am guessing he only used the gundam lining marker to do the lining....and even so...he didn't do all the detailed lines...
only thing i will say is better is that he did remember to do a little fix to the skirts

For your info PTX all my kits are Air Brushed and sanded with hobby sand paper and cut with a hobby knife. The only thing I did not do is to use putty.

And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version.

As for the Freedom's wings I just put them up wrongly for display for this photo taking session. All my models are kept in boxes because I do not have enough place to show them all till I get my own apartment next year. So, I do not need to FIX IT.

And yeah, PTX tell me how to be a pro like you if you think all I do is use Gundam Markers. One look at the colours and you should be able to see that I've used different colours to spray them.

Thank you to the rest for the nice words. Will post up pics of my other MG kits once I have the time.

umm....airbrushing is not the main point..i don't really care you air brushed or dry brushed...and i was just guessing about the marker part...i said that earlier
but it's quite true you didn't do enough lining work....=.=|||

"And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version."

about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs....

sorry if you think i am dissing you....but i do think you need more knife work on the models...
and about the blitz....i suggess you to cut the clows apart and re-joint them with metal joints, it will look way better.

Btw.....i see a MG strike there...but that Freedom is no grade, right?(can't really see...too far).

**Psyke** · Wed, 05-25-2005, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by: PTX-003C
"And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version."

about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs....

sorry if you think i am dissing you....but i do think you need more knife work on the models...
and about the blitz....i suggess you to cut the clows apart and re-joint them with metal joints, it will look way better.

Btw.....i see a MG strike there...but that Freedom is no grade, right?(can't really see...too far).

I meant that Strike Rouge was the only one not out in the 1/100 HG, and if it was released I would not have gotten the MG version. I actually got my Strike Rouge in Japan because it was cheap there.

I'm not a pro modeller, and my fellow modelling friends always say I like to rush, but I'm still pretty happy with my collection. Thanks for your ideas on Blitz, but I'm too lazy to modify stuff like that.

As for your later comments on the HG/144 kits I do agree that they are harder to complete and require more skill from the user, but one of the reasons the MG kits are so popular are because of the additional parts as well as the inner frame for some of the Gundams. This allows more customization as well as posing compared to the HG parts.

**SKII** · Fri, 08-19-2005, 07:45 PM

I have got:

Gundam X
HG 1/100
Double X
X Divider
Air Master Burst

Gundan Wing
HG 1/100
Wing
Wing O
Shenlong
Altron
Deathscythe
Deathscythe Hell
Epyon

Endless Waltz
HG 1/100
Deathscythe Hell Custom
Special Operation Wing O Custom (Metallic Coatin)
Heavyarms Custom
Sandrock Custom
Nataku
Tallgeese III
Serpent Custom

G Gundam
MG 1/100
Hyper Mode (Gold) God
Master
Spiegel
Shining
HG 1/100
Rising
Maxtor
Dragon

Seed
MG 1/100
Freedom
Aile Strike
HG 1/100
Sword Strike
Launcher Strike
Duel
Buster
Aegis
Justice
Blitz
Red Frame
Blue Frame
Providence

Seed Destiny
HG 1/100
Force Impulse
Sword Impulse
Chaos
Gunner Zaku Warrior (Lunamaria Hawke Custom)
Blaze Zaku Phantom (Rey Za Burrel Custom)
Destiny

MG 1/100
Nu Gundam
EZ-8
Surper Gundam (but only the MKII prt left)
ZZ (Only G Fotress left)
Qubeley
ZETA Plus C1

**aznimperialx** · Fri, 08-19-2005, 07:54 PM

http://i20.photobucket.com/alb...perialx/Picture001.jpg

Best picture of my strike rouge

**heero** · Thu, 09-08-2005, 07:46 PM

I want to get this Providence and this Saviour. Just wondering if they are worth getting and if anyone owns them can you post a picture of them cause I dont really trust the pictures on the box [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] Also, I remember someone saying puting on all 3 weapon systems onto Strike. It sounded interesting. Can someone post a picture of this please?

**Curium** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by: PTX-003C
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)

Where is this? I don't particullarly care for Impulse, but 1/60 scale for $10 is hard to pass up.

**PTX-003C** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: PTX-003C
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)

Where is this? I don't particullarly care for Impulse, but 1/60 scale for $10 is hard to pass up.

a place called Japan?

Originally posted by: darkshadow
that maybe skill, but i wonder, how the hell can you up 18 points of articulation to 35+??, without destroying the toy that is??, i mean than you are basically building a new thing right?

isn't it pretty obvieus that we just dumb the wings away and make a whole new one out of PVC boards?=.=|||
we always do that....basically rebuild the whole model with PVC boards and putty
result is the model will usually be taller than the original size
cuz we usually make the legs longer, sharpen the chins and reshape or even remake the whole shoulder armor and head....

**darkshadow** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 08:41 PM

1/60 Force Impulse Gundam
$59.99

like ptx said, you will prolly have to be in japan yourself to find an offer like that

**Curium** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by: PTX-003C

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: PTX-003C
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)

Where is this? I don't particullarly care for Impulse, but 1/60 scale for $10 is hard to pass up.

a place called Japan?

No need to be sarcastic. You know perfectly well I meant online.

**Guardian_2000** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 04:02 PM

A MG Force Impulse would sell alot better than the crap they put in 1/60th scale. If it had been a true PG then it would have sold better. I tend to stay away from the non grades since they tend to lack detail.

Well looking at the Freedom you posted. The modeller of it isn't much better. Use a better source if you are gonna give tips.. Then again it could just be the camera that makes it look that way.. If you wanna see some classy models check out Peck World.

**PTX-003C** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
A MG Force Impulse would sell alot better than the crap they put in 1/60th scale. If it had been a true PG then it would have sold better. I tend to stay away from the non grades since they tend to lack detail.

no...the problem is...Bandai usually use the 1/60 and HG 1/144 to judge should they release the MGs
cuz it takes a lot of money to hire katoki

**Guardian_2000** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 04:11 PM

I gotta see your source on this since many MG never even see 1/60. Most serious modellers avoid HG unless the model isn't out in MG. Then again G-System are some of the craziest.

**PTX-003C** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
I gotta see your source on this since many MG never even see 1/60. Most serious modellers avoid HG unless the model isn't out in MG. Then again G-System are some of the craziest.

yes..a lot of the MG are not released by 1/60..but that's the case in SEED and the HGs are where the put most of the attention...but 1/60s are also part of the "servey"

actually....about the part with serious modelist, you are wrong.....they usually use 1/144 no grades/HGs, because 1/144 no grades or HGs are harder to customize and better for scene re-makes...MGs are what they usually avoid

to be very honest.....MGs are made for lower class modelists....cuz even a 7~8 year old kid can make a MG look good...but it takes greater skill to make a 1/144 HG or no grades to look good

P.S. if you classify modelist from 1>10(1 is the best)
i am prolly only at 5~6....

**Guardian_2000** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 04:21 PM

Well then we classify our modellers differently. I consider serious modellers the ones that go after the models where more skill is needed. Generally the model kits that have a higher number of parts and more complexity to them with all the added details. You just don't really find that in the HG or smaller suits. PG being the models of the most serious and diehard modellers. I only opened my PG after I had done a ton of HG then MG. If I want something cheap to put together I'll go with the HG or lesser. There are a few non grade tho with resin parts and customized parts for the MG that add some cool stuff. Even some of the HG conversions bring an extra level of complexity and fix the crappy detail of the kits. There is a reason why they put that skill level on the english boxes. But as I said what you and I consider modelling and the level of a modeller are different things.

**PTX-003C** · Mon, 05-23-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Well then we classify our modellers differently. I consider serious modellers the ones that go after the models where more skill is needed. Generally the model kits that have a higher number of parts and more complexity to them with all the added details. You just don't really find that in the HG or smaller suits. PG being the models of the most serious and diehard modellers. I only opened my PG after I had done a ton of HG then MG. If I want something cheap to put together I'll go with the HG or lesser. There are a few non grade tho with resin parts and customized parts for the MG that add some cool stuff. Even some of the HG conversions bring an extra level of complexity and fix the crappy detail of the kits. There is a reason why they put that skill level on the english boxes. But as I said what you and I consider modelling and the level of a modeller are different things.

um....did anyone tell you before that the "skill rated" thingy on english boxes are not exactly right? PG is the the highest level....^^|||
yes...more parts are harder...but doesn't mean it takes more skill...just more time....why did i say it takes more skill to make HG/no grades? cuz they are lack in details....you have to make your own parts to make it look good...on the other hand....MG/PG are way too detailed, so you can't really customize them....the real skill is to make a model good looking with your own hand made parts.....
if you did read the dengeki hobby before....you will find a lot of the models/scene re-makes in the first 50pages...
nearly all of them are made out of no grades!!

the modelist rating:
HG>MG>PG>HG>GK>no grades>Creat a GK yourself

**Guardian_2000** · Tue, 05-24-2005, 08:10 AM

PTX you crack me up sometimes with the way you analyze stuff. I thought I was a bit of a unique thinker but you take the title on that one. There are lots of japanese stores online that sell in yen and will even convert to the US dollar. Or you can exchange your money online for the equivalent and pay in yen. And when you are talking about modellers there aren't many serious ones like you. Alot of the people in here have been going against what you've been saying. So you can take majority for what it is that your views on what needs the most skill and what modellers prefer to build as your own view.

Personally I like the room, scale and size of the MG and PG kits. They allow you for much more customization. You can get detailed beyond belief going even beyond the armor down the the servos and wires. You just can't afford the room that a MG and especially a PG offers you. Sure it takes alot of skill to make a HG or many no grades upto the quality of a MG or PG. But it takes skill to improve on the MG and HG as well. You can rebuild your HG models all you want, but as said you're gonna have a tough time with such small pieces even just getting the articulation down of the higher quality models.

HG are for modellers who can't afford to play with the bigger and better model kits while still offering quality that many no grades don't have. When you start playing with resins in that scale then you get abit more challenge. You need to actually visit some modeller forums and get your facts straight. After alil while in there you will see which models people find to be the most challenging and which need alot of skill to make look alot better than what they give you in the box.

Just cause I want to treat you guys to a guy with real skill. I'm maybe got half the skill of what this guy has. He put up some tutorials not to long ago which have proved useful. You prolly gonna need a translator thou.

http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/

His BAZ project is especially awesome. I love his Kampfer Zwei as well.
http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/bazproject/bazp.htm

**Jurojin** · Tue, 05-24-2005, 10:24 AM

God, it would take so long to do a full listing of every gundam I have bought and assembled. Most of them are 1/144 scale, though all of my seed and seed destiny 1/144's are all HG's.

Wing:
1/144 of
Wing
Wing Zero
Wing Zero Custom
Sandrock
Heavyarms
Deathscythe
Deathscythe Hell
Deathscythe Hell Custom
Shenlong
Altron
Epyon
Meracius(spl)
Valk...(spl, you know what I mean)

1/100 of
Death Scythe
Wing
Tallgeese III*(forgot this one)

PG
Wing Zero Custom (It's my baby :X)

UC:
(all 1/144)
Gundam
Gundam Alex
Guncannon
Gelgoog
Rick-dom
Hy-gogg
Kampfer

Gundam Seed
1/144 HG of:
Aiel Strike Gundam
Ginn
Aegis
Duel
Blitz
Buster
Freedom
Justice
Forbidden
Raider
Strike Rouge Gundam +IWSP

1/100 of
Aegis

Gundam Seed Destiny:
1/144 HG of
Force Impulse
Sword Impulse
Gaia (unassembled, been busy >_&gt[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

SD versions of
Strike Gundam (with all the packs! just in SD form [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img])
Wing Zero Custom
(forgot name of the stolen gundam from Stardust Memory, but that one.)

*phew* that took a few minutes....

I don't -think- I'm missing anything of what I should have on my list....

**PTX-003C** · Tue, 05-24-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
PTX you crack me up sometimes with the way you analyze stuff. I thought I was a bit of a unique thinker but you take the title on that one. There are lots of japanese stores online that sell in yen and will even convert to the US dollar. Or you can exchange your money online for the equivalent and pay in yen. And when you are talking about modellers there aren't many serious ones like you. Alot of the people in here have been going against what you've been saying. So you can take majority for what it is that your views on what needs the most skill and what modellers prefer to build as your own view.

Personally I like the room, scale and size of the MG and PG kits. They allow you for much more customization. You can get detailed beyond belief going even beyond the armor down the the servos and wires. You just can't afford the room that a MG and especially a PG offers you. Sure it takes alot of skill to make a HG or many no grades upto the quality of a MG or PG. But it takes skill to improve on the MG and HG as well. You can rebuild your HG models all you want, but as said you're gonna have a tough time with such small pieces even just getting the articulation down of the higher quality models.

HG are for modellers who can't afford to play with the bigger and better model kits while still offering quality that many no grades don't have. When you start playing with resins in that scale then you get abit more challenge. You need to actually visit some modeller forums and get your facts straight. After alil while in there you will see which models people find to be the most challenging and which need alot of skill to make look alot better than what they give you in the box.

Just cause I want to treat you guys to a guy with real skill. I'm maybe got half the skill of what this guy has. He put up some tutorials not to long ago which have proved useful. You prolly gonna need a translator thou.

http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/

His BAZ project is especially awesome. I love his Kampfer Zwei as well.
http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/bazproject/bazp.htm

i must say.....customizing MG and PG are really simple compare to HGs.....cuz they are too big....and too detailed...not many things you can do apart from remake the whole thing...but HGs has way more flexability....not to mention HGs has more models in the first place, but because it's smaller, that's why it takes way more skills to work with it...i don't understand why will you guys think PG is the hardest.....i find PG really simple apart from a little time spending.....but i find way more challenge with customizing a HG..because you have to makee the whole body frame and the extra parts yourself .....which are mostly provided in MG or PG already
biggest example for that are the joints.....PG and MG's joints are near perfect already....what's the point of doing anything more.....but look at HG...their joints are not really moveable...that's why we customize them..ever saw a no grade 1/144 G-Gundam crossing arms like the MG 1/100? that's what you called skill

**Guardian_2000** · Tue, 05-24-2005, 10:47 PM

Well actually there are some 1/144 nonames that are at or beyond MG quality so yea I've that kind of detail on the lesser scale models. Resin kits for the most part. So basically if I get what you are saying you serious modellers like playing with the smaller tighter HG line since there is lack of detail, crap articulation, and improper scale. You get to show more skill by bringing it upto about a MG quality? Why not challenge yourselves like most other modellers and surpass even what you find in MG like those models in Peck World. Doing the same stuff with MG or even PG allows so much more freedom and real estate to play with. You can really go nuts with the minute details you are able to show. Do you actually take off the armor plating and show the frames on your HG? Maybe I just like knowing my models manipulators can be used without tweezers.

**PTX-003C** · Tue, 05-24-2005, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Well actually there are some 1/144 nonames that are at or beyond MG quality so yea I've that kind of detail on the lesser scale models. Resin kits for the most part. So basically if I get what you are saying you serious modellers like playing with the smaller tighter HG line since there is lack of detail, crap articulation, and improper scale. You get to show more skill by bringing it upto about a MG quality? Why not challenge yourselves like most other modellers and surpass even what you find in MG like those models in Peck World. Doing the same stuff with MG or even PG allows so much more freedom and real estate to play with. You can really go nuts with the minute details you are able to show. Do you actually take off the armor plating and show the frames on your HG? Maybe I just like knowing my models manipulators can be used without tweezers.

that's the problem...MGs and PGs are way too detailed...it's very hard for anyone to do anymore changes...because they are already near perfect...nothing is needed to be changed...that's why we go back to HGs and no grades...which will give more fun and able to show our skills

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