Game: Metal Gear Solid 4

[NM]

While I'm more of a Snake lover myself, I don't particularly hate Raiden. I suppose people have taken a disliking to him because he just didn't have that coolness factor like Snake. People probably hated his conversations with Rose to, since they were so long and...lovey dovey I guess. Its hard for me to say why since I don't hate Raiden but at the same time, I'm not his biggest fan. Though what I did like about playing as Raiden was all the stories he heard about the Patriots. My particular favorite was the one Emma told him, and of course the conversation between the messed up Colonel Campbell and Rose. Man...that last one still gives me goosebumps. The Plant chapter you could say definetly set the stage for the final MGS.

[SamuraiX-]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
For the sake of reviving this topic, I'd like to - just once - hear an actual ARGUMENT for hating Raiden. I am well aware that everybody hates his guts, but I can't figure out why, and I find him to be an excellent contrast to Snake/Big Boss who both seem to know everything already. And no, "he's gay" is not valid. Come on, shoot.

My god Terra. You have NOoooooo idea. If you've ever been to the GameSpot or GameFAQs boards, you hear about Raiden hating going on AAALLLLL the time. It's always just people saying, "He's Gay", "Raiden Can Never RePlaCe SnaakE!", "Raiden is just a little girl, what was Kojima thinking?!", "Raiden doesn't have a wang! He can't match up to Snake!". And it just goes on and on and on...... and on.

Then later, some Raiden supporters or neutral players come in and just totally own the Raiden haters. I don't feel like typing up all the Raiden info, so just check this link out, it'll have everything you ever need to know about him. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Raiden

What really pisses me off, is that Raiden is just as skilled as Snake is, and he will have to take Snake's place sooner or later. I'm willing to bet anything that no one would hate Raiden if he didn't appear more "feminine", younger, or unexperienced than Snake. Who knows though, maybe Kojima wanted to introduce him like this in MGS2, just to have the chance to turn him into a total badass in MGS4. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[Terracosmo]

Thanks for the link, but I know just about everything about him already (I am a fan after all [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]), I was mostly just wondering why everybody hates him - despite him being "gay" and effeminate and everything. I suppose that's really all there is to it. Man, people sure are lame and unable to embrace change and difference... no big surprise though ;D

[RedX1z]

okay, i'll put it like this..raiden isn't bad, but you'd rather play with snake then raiden, least that's what i think. snake is cool, raiden is cool, too, but snake is just cooler than raiden. plus, i don't think raiden is annoying, i think his girlfriend is, though. oh, one more thing, raiden can use a sword and snake can't. score 1 for raiden![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[Terracosmo]

Yeah I just love how all of the Raiden art and merchandise has that katana. It became his "thing".

And who can resist bishies with katanas?

[Knives122]

Me...

[SamuraiX-]

Being able to use that HF Blade at the end of the game was just my absolutely favorite thing about playing as Raiden. ^_^ Then I was pissed to find that Kojima COMPLETELY forgot to put it in the game as an unlockable, so you have it from the beginning... man... that would be just too awesome, anyone else agree? Like he made it that you could do special stealth kills with it too, like in Tenchu. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Also, I liked playing as Raiden my first time through MGS2, considered that I had never beaten MGS1 before, I think I only got to the Ocelot Boss Fight at my friend's house. Then after I beat MGS2, I did everything in my power to find a copy of MGS1, I just had to play it! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[RedX1z]

if he did make it an unlockable, i'd promise myself that in the whole game i wouldn't use a gun, just the katana, except for the part where you have to snipe vamp and use the launcher for the chopper to take down solidus..

[Terracosmo]

Maybe you guys already knew this, but apparently the girl on the right in the teaser poster has been confirmed to be none other than... Naomi Hunter! Dun dun dun!

[RedX1z]

i'm actually hearing that for the first time, so the traitor from metal gear solid 1 is back.

[Terracosmo]

I think she's there because the whole Foxdie issue is still around.

[RedX1z]

or came back to get snake? who knows? i dunno, maybe her role will actually serve some purpose in 4..

[Terracosmo]

If I remember correctly, didn't they sort of get along towards the end of MGS1 when she learned the truth of Snake's older actions?
I don't think she's out to get him any longer, though. But yeah, your guess is as good as mine [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[Hakeem_21]

I knew it was her when i saw the picture cause it looked so much like her.

There is one thing good with Raiden,its that he made Snake look uber cool. He did things that Raiden cant even dream about. The first time you see him in the elevator,taking down so many guards like it was nothing,that was cool.

[RedX1z]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
If I remember correctly, didn't they sort of get along towards the end of MGS1 when she learned the truth of Snake's older actions?
I don't think she's out to get him any longer, though. But yeah, your guess is as good as mine [img][/img]

yeah, but judging by her character, she seems like the mysterious women who'll stab you in the back in bed, regardless of forgiveness and that other bullcrap..

[Terracosmo]

True. Well, didn't really care much for her anyway. Gray Fox on the other hand, now he was badass... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[RedX1z]

yeah, he will always be remembered. his sacrifice to save another will always be remembered, plus, even though, most of you may or may not like her at all, but sniper wolf will also be remembered.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[SamuraiX-]

Did you guys know that, actually all the characters' identities in the poster have been confirmed by Kojima? Here they are from left to right:

Vamp
Meryl Silverburgh
Raiden
Revolver Ocelot
Solid Snake
Otacon
Big Boss
Naomi Hunter

And there you have it, the first eight, confirmed characters that will appear in Metal Gear Solid 4. ^_^

[Hakeem_21]

Wow i suspected Big Boss but i never thought they would confirm him.

[Psyke]

I wonder how old he's gonna be..... Might turn out as a twist if he looks not a day older since Snake Eater.