It never entered your mind that Palpatine allowed himself to be beaten?Originally posted by: Roko
anybody else think it was a bit weird that Windu could beat Palpatine but Yoda couldn't? I know that they are both masters, but then Yoda seems to be the strongest of all the jedi
yeah yoda wouldve owned him if he still had the robe [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img],
and i dont think palpatine intentionally got defeated, sids is not even close to the lvl of close combat mastery as mace, and as you noticed mace not only BLOCKED his ultra powerfull lightning, he reflected it as wel ( btw this part of the post is not for you knives[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]), sids knew already he would win because of anakin, if anakin didnt show up however, mace would've ended the empire right there
edit: knives could you tell me how you did that swampy desert effect in your sig
Ya, and I'm sure he really was weak and in great pain like he said just before he lit windu up and then seemed perfectly fine.Originally posted by: darkshadow
and i dont think palpatine intentionally got defeated, sids is not even close to the lvl of close combat mastery as mace, and as you noticed mace not only BLOCKED his ultra powerfull lightning, he reflected it as wel ( btw this part of the post is not for you knives[img][/img]), sids knew already he would win because of anakin, if anakin didnt show up however, mace would've ended the empire right there
Windu was only "winning" because plapatine allowed it. The whole thing was to play on Anakin's emotions and get him to make a move rather than being uncertain the whole time.
The fight was way too fast for windu to have won too, do you think he could have pulled that off on Yoda? Yoda and palpatine seemed to be on even grounds, no?
he was in pain, his lighting showed to be 10x stronger than dooku's, and it shot back in his face, also he used alot of force, because the force shroud FELL, he couldnt maintain it ne more, because of the mass force he released on windu, BUT he dit OVERact about it, he wasnt in great pain, but he was hurting for sure, he was just pulling of an act so anakin would intervene ( spelling? ), mace WOULD eventually have won, he is more than experienced to fend of sids' force attacks, and his close combat is unmatched
"Padme......i saw him.......he killed youngins........."
noooo......not the youngins!!!
am i the only one annoyed at all the cameos that keep showing up in these first 3 movies?
im not talking about actor cameos, im talking about characters that we've known from eps 4-6, such as chewbacca. Ok seriously, why did george feel the need to put chewbacca in there? On a planet full of wookies, one of the two that saw yoda off happened to be the same wookie that we later see as part of a rogue team with han solo. I was under the impression that chewy was more of a "my home is the endless reaches of space" kinda guy anyway, he shouldn't have been involved in some big battle on his hometown.
I might as well go even further and question the whole motivation behind boba fett's part in the 2nd movie while im at it. When we see boba fett in the original 3 movies, did we think that he had a connection to the clone army? No. Do you suppose even GL intended that? Probably not. As far as I'm aware, boba fett was introduced into the series as generic bounty hunter X that served as a plot device to deliver han to the hut. I would even go so far as to say the whole ordeal with jango and boba was ONLY put into episode 2 as fanservice.....
Eh, maybe its no big deal.....but it kinda ruins the whole "the universe is a big place" kinda feel, if you ask me
Another thing that bugs me.....didnt the obi-wan vs vader fight seem alot more emotional than the rematch that took place in episode 4? Not saying that it shouldve been less emotional, but their second fight just pales in comparison, if you think about it
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But the second fight was what? around 15, 20 years afterwards? Obi-wan's already an old man by then, and Anakin has had time to improve on his skills, especially since he is still young. Obi-wan's objective was to save Luke, no matter the cost, even if it meant his life. I guess you can say he developed the same bond he had with Anakin before he became Vader, with Luke. That's also a lot of time to think, and there was that little idea of Obi-wan talking to Qui-gon's spirit that was thrown in. Some advice to move on, I suppose?
But still, I understand what you're saying. The second fight just seemed to be like "well, we meet again after so long. You've grown a lot, but it's time to say byebye" while the fight in episode 3 was more like "DAMN! Why'd you turn to the dark side?!"
"You can never know everything, and part of what you know is always wrong. Perhaps even the most important part. A portion of wisdom lies in knowing that. A portion of courage lies in going on anyways."
@Assertn: well the real reason why the wookie fight was even in this movie was b/c GL wanted to have them in there in ROTJ but he didnt have enough money so he went with the ewoks *shudders*. but they did have a point; after the empire kicked off, they forced the wookies into building it, and Han got Chewy out, and at that point Chewbacca did that whole "life debt" thing and started hanging out with Han(he was going to be in this movie too, but they decided not to put him in there). But hey, let the crazy ass old man do what he wants, they are his movies after all
R.I.P Captain America.
Not to mention the fact that we now know that the stonecold badass Boba Fett once was a whiney (and fugly) kid.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
I might as well go even further and question the whole motivation behind boba fett's part in the 2nd movie while im at it. When we see boba fett in the original 3 movies, did we think that he had a connection to the clone army? No. Do you suppose even GL intended that? Probably not. As far as I'm aware, boba fett was introduced into the series as generic bounty hunter X that served as a plot device to deliver han to the hut. I would even go so far as to say the whole ordeal with jango and boba was ONLY put into episode 2 as fanservice.....
We didn't fucking need that.
(even though Boba owns)
wait, are you dissing ewoks!?! Ewoks rule! The own all with their primitive weapons!Originally posted by: Knives122
@Assertn: well the real reason why the wookie fight was even in this movie was b/c GL wanted to have them in there in ROTJ but he didnt have enough money so he went with the ewoks *shudders*. but they did have a point; after the empire kicked off, they forced the wookies into building it, and Han got Chewy out, and at that point Chewbacca did that whole "life debt" thing and started hanging out with Han(he was going to be in this movie too, but they decided not to put him in there). But hey, let the crazy ass old man do what he wants, they are his movies after all
"You can never know everything, and part of what you know is always wrong. Perhaps even the most important part. A portion of wisdom lies in knowing that. A portion of courage lies in going on anyways."
There is no way to say one way or the other for sure but in my opinion, GL wanted us to see that it was an act and Palpatine was not ingured at all. I thought the steam comming off of him from the lightning instantly going away when palpatine wanted to get up and attack showed this along with how quickly he recovered.Originally posted by: darkshadow
he was in pain, his lighting showed to be 10x stronger than dooku's, and it shot back in his face, also he used alot of force, because the force shroud FELL, he couldnt maintain it ne more, because of the mass force he released on windu, BUT he dit OVERact about it, he wasnt in great pain, but he was hurting for sure, he was just pulling of an act so anakin would intervene ( spelling? ), mace WOULD eventually have won, he is more than experienced to fend of sids' force attacks, and his close combat is unmatched
I'm pretty sure that if Anakin hadn't showed up when he did, Palpatine would have died right there. It was good, because it shows that while Palpatine is very powerful, he's not invincible. I'd say the whole "I'm so weak, save me Anakin!" thing was an act, because he knew he'd save him. But everything before Anakin showed up was real.
When it comes to 1v1 lightsaber combat, Palpatine couldn't match Windu, because he's more of a force master while Windu's a swordsman. His saber flew out the window, you think he did that on purpose?
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
OF COURSE the black man is killed.
Of course, and screaming like a girl as well. Lucas could have had him go out like the man he was but no.
windu wasnt even meant to have a proper fight with sidious, it was only put in cos samuel L jackson said he wanted a fight of his own. it's not in the original script
yes I am saying Ewoks suck, they are the rats of the SW universeOriginally posted by: Roko
wait, are you dissing ewoks!?! Ewoks rule! The own all with their primitive weapons!Originally posted by: Knives122
@Assertn: well the real reason why the wookie fight was even in this movie was b/c GL wanted to have them in there in ROTJ but he didnt have enough money so he went with the ewoks *shudders*. but they did have a point; after the empire kicked off, they forced the wookies into building it, and Han got Chewy out, and at that point Chewbacca did that whole "life debt" thing and started hanging out with Han(he was going to be in this movie too, but they decided not to put him in there). But hey, let the crazy ass old man do what he wants, they are his movies after all
R.I.P Captain America.
hey, but ewoks turned the tide in the war. Without them, the shield generators would nvr have gone down. They were and are underestimated
"You can never know everything, and part of what you know is always wrong. Perhaps even the most important part. A portion of wisdom lies in knowing that. A portion of courage lies in going on anyways."
ewoks are cool, anyone seen caravan of courage: an ewok adventure, I still got that on tape since like 15 years ago
Okay I saw the movie and damn was it good.
Shortly I'm gonna rewatch the original trilogy as well. I just remembered how much I love this shit.
Anyway about ep 3, as everyone have said there were some cheesy moments but overall they didn't matter. I'm just glad GL didn't mess up Obi-Wan's final words to Anakin.
So yeah, great stuff. Nice to see it all wrapped up.
@kAi: Is that the animated one you're talking about? If so, I saw it, have a lot of memories from seeing it as a kid.
I totally loved this movie. One of my friends maintains that Padme and Anakin should not be allowed to speak to each other ("You're so beautiful." "I'm only beautiful because I'm so in love." .....give me a break) but that doesn't even come close to ruining the awesomeness of the movie as a whole. I think they did a good job of capturing the feel and the atmosphere of the original trilogy.
And Ewoks are so cool. I used to watch the cartoon, and I think I watched the movie(s?) as well. I can't quite remember because it was so long ago, but I think there was more than one movie made....all I can remember is some family fighting alongside the Ewoks.
There were 2 Ewok movies. The first one was to save the Towani kids' (Cindel and Mace?) parents from some giant pig-monster thing. The second was the ewoks, Cindel and some old man fighting space pirates or some shit. Most notable thing about the 2nd movie was that Cindel's family got rubbed out and she finally gets off the forest moon.
Cindel's one goofy lookin' kid.
Also, Warwick Davis is pimp.
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