Episode 30 Discussion "Spoilers"

[Aramis]

Shinn was right to scold Athrun, all he did in the battle was fly around in travel form and taunt the enemy with his radio only to get a "shut up and die" kind of reaction from them. well, he fired a few shots here and there.
if you join the military during war you do so to fight, thats it. athrun is the loser here...
as for shinn and rey, they'll probably be punished big time for this. they assaulted the crew and released an important prisoner. the chairman is probably gonna excuse them or they'll never launch from that ship again.

[naruto22]

Originally posted by: Aramis
Shinn was right to scold Athrun, all he did in the battle was fly around in travel form and taunt the enemy with his radio only to get a "shut up and die" kind of reaction from them. well, he fired a few shots here and there.
if you join the military during war you do so to fight, thats it. athrun is the loser here...
as for shinn and rey, they'll probably be punished big time for this. they assaulted the crew and released an important prisoner. the chairman is probably gonna excuse them or they'll never launch from that ship again.

Well, Asuran bashing can come later. As much as we all may despise Asuran for being a spineless coward who can't defend his fiancee, I think we can all agree that Shinn is ten times worse. More so because he is so volatile in temper, it can be said his state of mind is even more unstable than Kira during his time on Strike. And this time, he has no pink haired princess to save his ravaged mind. Then again, he didn't have a red haired B***ch screwing his body and mind as well.

Sigh, Asuran and Cagalli kinda got the sad treatment of being degraded into characters who can't stand up for their beliefs. And by right, they should have been better after emerging from the last war relatively unscathed and still have friends who are alive and able to live with them. Instead, both of them have been reduced to whinny kids.

Strange how the seats have turned. Now its Kira who is the most confident character who has his heart in the right place whereas last time, he was a civilian who was about to be torn apart by the dogs of war. And Asuran, who was a confident member of the elite ZAFT military, the Reds, hasn't even been able to do anything damaging to the enemy. And I'm talking about ORB, I'm talking against the EA and Chaos. Bloody hell, all he and Chaos does is shoot each other. In the end, because of his indecisiveness, he lost a valuable piece of Gundam, which was in my humble opinion, the coolest Gundam in Destiny, even surpassing Freedom IMHO.

Ah well, I hope we get Cagalli and Asuran to develop more of their characters since they have been pushed back to square one. And as much as I hate to see Shinn, I'm interested to see how he turns out in the end.

Never forget, the one consistency of all GUNDAM series is to show the audience the horrors of war. I doubt GSD will end in the complete destruction of Earth and Plant. Hell, even Star Wars 3: Revenge of the Sith didn't end all that sad......... OK, pay no attention to the guy who just watched Star Wars 3.