Episode 134 Discussion!!!

**XanBcoo** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by: Tidus_Yuna

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
Is anyone else disappointed about the blue Kyuubi-Rasengan?
I was expecting a deeper red...

well its like red+blue= purple if u look again u will see purple

Well if you look again you will see that I've said about 3 times "purple Kyuubi-Rasengans suck"

I think you guys are still overblowing Haku's strength btw. I think Kakashi is just as strong, maybe stronger than Haku was. Especially now that we've seen what the 3 dot sharingan can do. Sasuke can perceive Kyuubi-Naruto's movements with the 3-dot sharingan, yet Kyuubi-Naruto was waaay faster than Haku, which is why he was beaten so easily in that form. I think someone like kakashi would have beaten Haku easily. Haku was damn strong, but Kakashi is uncomparable in my book. (witht the exception of the sannin, itachi, akatsuki members, etc).
(summary of my recent logic: Sasuke can perceive Kyuubi-Naruto's movement with 3-dot sharingan, Kyuubi Naruto is faster than Haku, Kakashi has 3-dot sharingan and he's a JOUNIN, so Kakashi is faster, more experienced, probably smarter, and therefor stronger to me.)
Kakashi was a chuunin at age 6 and joined ANBU at a young age aswell. But whatever. Maybe they were the same strength.

**darkshadow** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 01:31 PM

yeah thats y i also said kakashi would win, i mean he knows like a 1000 justu, meaning he prolly knows a jutsu for every bad situation he'll ever be in, he prolly also copied that strange teleport thing he did a few times of oro ( he did it at chuunin exam), meaning he would just like kinda teleport out of the mirrors and destroy haku [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] lol, for me no1 can beat kakashi other then sannin and itachi ( im sure he can handle the other akatsuki members )

**Cal_kashi** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 03:24 PM

just to make things interesting, and add some reality to this arguement,...
Im pretty sure that I could beat up Kakashi, i mean sure hes got that damn eye, but, id meet him at a bar, drunken him up a little, then just poke his eye out, then for good measure kick em in the nuts a few times as he squirms in pain on the floor. Q.E.D.

**jing** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by: Cal_kashi
just to make things interesting, and add some reality to this arguement,...
Im pretty sure that I could beat up Kakashi, i mean sure hes got that damn eye, but, id meet him at a bar, drunken him up a little, then just poke his eye out, then for good measure kick em in the nuts a few times as he squirms in pain on the floor. Q.E.D.

Maybe he has a jutsu that won't get him drunk.

**Cal_kashi** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by: jing

Originally posted by: Cal_kashi
just to make things interesting, and add some reality to this arguement,...
Im pretty sure that I could beat up Kakashi, i mean sure hes got that damn eye, but, id meet him at a bar, drunken him up a little, then just poke his eye out, then for good measure kick em in the nuts a few times as he squirms in pain on the floor. Q.E.D.

Maybe he has a jutsu that won't get him drunk.

well, shit, roofies?

**Sam98034** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 04:54 PM

I thought Naruto was complaining about how much stronger Haku was than him at the same age to Kakashi or something like that? "How can he be so strong, he's my age?" And Kakashi said something like "This is a crazy world like that, some ninjas are younger than you, but stronger than me."

That was just emphasizing a point, not directly stating Haku was better than he was. If Kakashi knew that him and Zabuza were around equal, and that Haku was stronger than him, he would get back up or something. And the last thing he would do is put Sasuke and Naruto against the stronger opponent. Seriously...that's dumb.

Anyways, I didn't really like the energy balls thing with this episode. It's not ninja-like at all. It's not like anything else we've really seen on this show, and would definately be step in a different direction if it continues for the show.

As far as the whole "Naruto is nothing without Kyubi" deal...what if Naruto *IS* Kyubi huh? Xenogears style, reborn. Then that whole argument goes to crap (this last part just stupid speculation).

KM · Sat, 05-14-2005, 06:03 PM

Just to keep the record straight, I did not say haku is stronger than kakashi. I simply said that the comment was referring to haku, based on an assumption.

I don't like the energy ball thing either. Those kind of crash as a plot device is almost immature. In fact I thought the summons earlier were already kind of bad. You should be glad that this fight at least didn't turn into a giant monster vs giant monster.

iLLusi0n · Sat, 05-14-2005, 06:56 PM

i didn't feel like reading 10 pages to see if my reply in mind has already been talked about
naruto actually mastered rasengan but doing it without the shadow rep which i thought was pretty cool in the fact that it was red at first then BAM blue rasengan

heres one thing i dont get, like how the BIG black sphere is just growing and like solifies even though naruto and sasuke stopped their attack look at each other for like who knows how long then attack and its gone... i think that is totally ridiculous

**Yondaime-** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 07:21 PM

That episode was pretty disappointing.. considering half the episode was flash backs.

I'm beginning to hate Sasuke.. well since a few episodes ago mostly because he looks very gay when he transforms and compared to his brother, he is like a dog
I mean Itachi gained his powers himself, sasuke has to go to some one for powers.

hmm and i dont consider that Naruto lost because... rasengan had the after affect, like always.. so wouldnt that be like a tie?
yes.. overall great artistic work~

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**jing** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 07:41 PM

Nope Naruto lost because he was down and OUT.

Dezalanel · Sat, 05-14-2005, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by: iLLusi0n
i didn't feel like reading 10 pages to see if my reply in mind has already been talked about
naruto actually mastered rasengan but doing it without the shadow rep which i thought was pretty cool in the fact that it was red at first then BAM blue rasengan

heres one thing i dont get, like how the BIG black sphere is just growing and like solifies even though naruto and sasuke stopped their attack look at each other for like who knows how long then attack and its gone... i think that is totally ridiculous

Naruto did not master the rasengan......the only reason he could do it with one hand is because he was Kyuubi lvl 2. Thus his powers all enhanced such as chakra control which is used in doing the rasengan. Normal Naruto and Kyuubi lvl 2 Naruto are completely different.

**Jeff_from_MD** · Sat, 05-14-2005, 09:10 PM

I'm beginning to hate Sasuke.. well since a few episodes ago mostly because he looks very gay when he transforms and compared to his brother, he is like a dog
I mean Itachi gained his powers himself, sasuke has to go to some one for powers.

I think it's good that sasuke refuses to accept that the only way to gain power is to whore himself off some genetic uchiha trait that arises from tossing away any sense of decency and sanity and killing naruto. I'm just hoping that whatever "darkness" Sasuke's aligning himself with from now on won't screw him up nearly as much as that mangukan thing would, and perhaps that self-reliance might make him even better than itachi. Of course, I'm no manga reader, so I'm content with just making do with wild ideas.

**Sam98034** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by: Dezalanel

Originally posted by: iLLusi0n
i didn't feel like reading 10 pages to see if my reply in mind has already been talked about
naruto actually mastered rasengan but doing it without the shadow rep which i thought was pretty cool in the fact that it was red at first then BAM blue rasengan

heres one thing i dont get, like how the BIG black sphere is just growing and like solifies even though naruto and sasuke stopped their attack look at each other for like who knows how long then attack and its gone... i think that is totally ridiculous

Naruto did not master the rasengan......the only reason he could do it with one hand is because he was Kyuubi lvl 2. Thus his powers all enhanced such as chakra control which is used in doing the rasengan. Normal Naruto and Kyuubi lvl 2 Naruto are completely different.

how can you back this up? Maybe he *just* learned it like Sasuke just got his third dash...or maybe not.

**FrostBiteAS** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 03:17 AM

dang that episode was a big let down... i waited a very long time to watch that ep... oh well im happy now...

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**Prof. Chaos** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 03:18 AM

Man Sasuke looked like a fag in lvl 2. That's all I have to say. And the Wing-Hands? WTF just give him normal wings.

**Sam98034** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 03:33 AM

no...this is what a fag looks like:

which I guess sorta looks like Sasuke lvl 2 anyway.

**DarthEnderX** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 04:11 AM

Man, I like those hand wings, I think they are a cool variation on normal old demon wings, which is what most series would do.

Plus, now, if he's hands get broken or something, or gets the soul yanked out of them, he can still make hand seals! GIANT ASS HAND SEALS! FUCK YEAH!

**Sam98034** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 04:44 AM

I've been wondering about something. In the first arc, when Naruto goes kyubi style, they notice that his energy is greater than that of Kakashi (or was it Zabuza...don't have the ep). Anyways, with that info in mind, are both Sasuke and Naruto "stronger" than Kakashi now? Wtf?

**Aramis** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 05:20 AM

ignoring stuff that happened and looking at outcome: SASUKE BEAT NARUTO, but chose to not kill him

**-ANBU-Sasuke-** · Sun, 05-15-2005, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by: JusDaMan
a quote from sasuke "YOU WILL NOT TOUCH THIS FORHEAD"

in episode 134 Naruto SCRARCHED HIS FORHEAD....

Well he didnt really touch the his forehead, it scratched is forehead protector. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

But yeah after reading, I cant believe that so many where that immature about the event where sasuke and naruto was face to face, seriously, if it was real, you would have been runing at 10-40+ mph possibly, and trying to his someone, tell me that your faces wont be face to face and looking into each other, and too think that these two are best friends, wouldnt u hesitate to actualy attempt to kill him?

**EDIT** Agian i failed to see more than 4 pages on this topic, im sorry if i had re-discussed anything old and unwanted.

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