Episode 134 Discussion!!!

[XanBcoo]

ANBU doesn't mean that they're stronger than a Jounin.
Hell, Kakashi was part of ANBU years before he even met Team 7. If you're saying he assumed Haku was stronger based on the fact that Haku looked like a mist ANBU (actually a hunter-nin), then you're still wrong.
Kakashi's comment was referring to ninjas in general, not Haku. Otherwise, he would have been more specific when he said "there are ninjas in this world..."; he was telling Naruto not to be suprised that Haku is stronger than Naruto because such ninja do exist. I think you are misconstruing what Kakashi said.
Can we stop discussing this please?

[KM]

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
ANBU doesn't mean that they're stronger than a Jounin.
Hell, Kakashi was part of ANBU years before he even met Team 7. If you're saying he assumed Haku was stronger based on the fact that Haku looked like a mist ANBU (actually a hunter-nin), then you're still wrong.
Kakashi's comment was referring to ninjas in general, not Haku. Otherwise, he would have been more specific when he said "there are ninjas in this world..."; he was telling Naruto not to be suprised that Haku is stronger than Naruto because such ninja do exist. I think you are misconstruing what Kakashi said.
Can we stop discussing this please?

Hunter-nin hunts jounins. They are stronger than jounins. I didn't say that kakashi assumed haku was stronger based on the fact that haku looked like a mist ANBU. You took away the obvious facts that haku was a lot younger, that he seemingly assassinated zabuza with zero effort, that kakashi did not perceive his presence, not his attack. Kakashi was an ANBU at a certain age, and haku seemingly reached that stage a lot earlier. There was why kakashi thought that maybe haku is stronger than him. Also put naruto's comment in context. After zabuza was taken away, naruto said what the hell was that, that kid just casually killed someone the four of them together fought. Kakashi seemed to agree (yet still doubtful) with what naruto said, and told naruto the statement. Of course kakashi was speaking of the ninjas in general, but haku was included at that moment.

Back to episode 134, the episode is quite disappointing:

- The visual effects with the black chidori and the collision of the chakra didn't fit the style. Not to mention the ball with techno feel, didn't make any sense.
- Sasuke's level 2 appearance is not appealing.
- The presentation of emotional content is forced and unnatural.

When sasuke continue into the forest after the fight, he said that he would gain power in this own way. He already chose not to kill his best friend, and probably chosen not to go to orochimaru. Yet he is still walking into something extremely dark. Makes you wonder how he is going to gain more power. Maybe do something darker than itachi or orochimaru can imagine?

[darkshadow]

let me just say abit more about haku's strength:
kakashi says i should do this, when naruto appeared, he realized haku was WAAAAY more powerfull then naruto or sasuke
haku broke that guys arm just by holding it ( naruto kyuubi style)
sasuke threw shuriken when he was busy talking to naruo, haku dodged it with ease
in the flashback, zabuza says, he is a fighting machine labeled ninja, on top of that his techniques surpass mine
he never intended to kill ne of em, or the fight would be over fast, reeeaaally fast
(also naruto had that same ultra beastly look on him against haku, as with the sasuke naruto fight, the other kyuubi transformations didnt look like that, just watch it again, the chakra just didnt manifest around him as a fox)
AND they CAN sense normal chakra, or both of em would be like, w8 i sense chakra, that means it is a DEMON, AAAAAH, but no, they questioned it first, zabuza didnt even say ne thing like, hmm must be some demon passing by then( ofcourse kakashi knew later on but thats logical)
and come on that first kyuubi punch didnt even ko haku
and just a little screen cap of what he did as a 6 your old brat ( maybe even younger):


he never even used the full potential of his bloodline limit against team 7....


ok back to ep 134
hmm i didnt notice sasuke walked into a black "future" or something, maybe hes relying on oro more now