Episode 134 Discussion!!!

[XanBcoo]

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
You cannot compare Kyubi to the Curse Seal. Ultimately, the Kyubi annihilates everything when it's compared in terms of power, stamina, and healing ability.

Ooooh, that must be why Naruto just lost to Sasuke.

[potentialflip]

so check dis...
Very dramatic episode.
People are shocked the Rasengan is not red at all. But red and blue make purple which sort of looked like it.
I remind myself why I respect Sasuke I still do not like what he did.

Oh yeah one more thing... Filler episodes are coming!!!

[Mut]

Originally posted by: xanbcoo

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
You cannot compare Kyubi to the Curse Seal. Ultimately, the Kyubi annihilates everything when it's compared in terms of power, stamina, and healing ability.

Ooooh, that must be why Naruto just lost to Sasuke.

There was no way Naruto could've won. If Naruto did win and brought back Sasuke then this entire arc would've been pointless.

Logicccccccccccccccccccccc.

[potentialflip]

actually it wouldn't been pointless it just would have been not as exciting or fun.

[XanBcoo]

Oh I completely agree that he SHOULD have lost. The arc worked out as it should have.
I'm just attacking your "logic"

Here's what I'm getting from you, Mut:
You cannot compare Kyuubi to the Curse Seal because Kyuubi is more powerful.
Naruto fights lvl2 curse seal Sasuke while using Kyuubi
Naruto Loses.

My point was that Sasuke in his lvl 2 form is = or > Kyuubi-Naruto. I don't think the win was TOTALLY on account of the large power they were both using, but if Kyuubi is that much stronger, then Sasuke would have lost.

[Assertn]

naruto lost with kyubi powers BECAUSE he sucks as a ninja.
if it was shikamaru with the kyubi powers fighting sasuke, then the outcome of that match would've been different

keep in mind that the weakness of naruto's kyubi strength is his heart, according to kabuto....
since sasuke black-chidori-punched him in the heart, it disabled the kyubi mode


alot of people think that naruto would still be a great ninja even if the kyubi was never sealed. This is not true. All the good jutsus he can perform were given to him because of the unusual chakra he has from kyubi. If it was never sealed in him, not only would he not have the power to do all the stuff he does, but he also would not have been hated by all the adults, thus not have a drive for acknowledgement. In other words, there would be no story to build around Naruto, and he would only exist in the series as another Inari.

it's BECAUSE of kyubi, that naruto is so important to the story

[Mut]

Originally posted by: potentialflip
actually it wouldn't been pointless it just would have been not as exciting or fun.

Okay, so if Sasuke lost and was brought back to Konoha, what's gonna happen then? He's gonna get angry again and leave Konoha? Or wait, he might just turn good and happy, and forget all about it. Right?

Give me a break. If Sasuke came back, it would've been the worst fucking possible storyline ever.

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
Oh I completely agree that he SHOULD have lost. The arc worked out as it should have.
I'm just attacking your "logic"

Here's what I'm getting from you, Mut:
You cannot compare Kyuubi to the Curse Seal because Kyuubi is more powerful.
Naruto fights lvl2 curse seal Sasuke while using Kyuubi
Naruto Loses.

My point was that Sasuke in his lvl 2 form is = or > Kyuubi-Naruto. I don't think the win was TOTALLY on account of the large power they were both using, but if Kyuubi is that much stronger, then Sasuke would have lost.

What the hell... Kishimoto had to make Naruto lose to have forward progress in the storyline. I also said that it ultimately beats every special powerup. That means in the end, Kyubi will just overpower everything. Not only that, Naruto can't release even a tenth of Kyubi's real power and the way he uses it is stupid. You're just not thinking beyond what has happened.

[XanBcoo]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
it's BECAUSE of kyubi, that naruto is so important to the story

I'll buy that.

I'm just saying that Lvl 2 curse seal must be damn powerful in order to stand up to Super-Kyuubi-Naruto and still win. Naruto has been unstoppable with this power up until this point.
Perhaps it was because he was uber berserk and can't fully utilize it or something.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: xanbcoo
I'll buy that.

I'm just saying that Lvl 2 curse seal must be damn powerful in order to stand up to Super-Kyuubi-Naruto and still win. Naruto has been unstoppable with this power up until this point.
Perhaps it was because he was uber berserk.

Sasuke is just a better ninja than Naruto when it comes to techniques and "ninja" abilities (not ninjutsu). Naruto is only clumsy and reckless but semi-clever. And that's all that shows for him.

[XanBcoo]

And he's got a badass demon inside of him.

Also:


Purple Kyuubi-Rasengans suck.

[Jurojin]

I agree with the opinion that Kyuubi-Naruto is capable of blasting through a lvl-2 Sasuke, but only 1 tail of the Kyuubi was released from the seal- if the seal had released more of the energy, then Naruto would have been more powerful, and flattened him. So, we have to keep in mind that Narutos power will only increase from this point as the seal deteriorates. Of course, if he had better skills....

[Death13a]

i love how they finshed the fight not and not like all DBZ fights which taking 3+episodes to finish. Naruto can use tactics pretty well as 133 episode showed. Naruto lost due to Kbuubi as we know destroies Naruto from inside with extensive use as Jyraiya sayed that Naruto's body fight against Fox's chakra as it too much for Naruto. as for blue resangan: it showed that Naruto launched attack against Sasuke using his own chakra.I wonder how long was that plant Akatsuki member and how did he know that Sasuke and Naruto will fight at that place. Good episode for ending the fight and it looks like next episode Sakura will put out a burning building with tears and as for Sasuke : does he know where the Oro lives as i don't think he ask for derections.

[kooshi]

For the Akatsuki member, someone could've just been patrolling just outside of Konoha to see what Naruto is up to since he is a target of Akatsuki.
Either that or someone was watching Orochimaru's movements. Orochimaru was part of Akatsuki, but left for some reason. That reason might cause Akatsuki to worry about something and keep an eye on the traitor.

[Board of Command]

It was more like he was just there to watch the fight. Akatsuki is after Naruto, and Oro probably left because he wants Sasuke, not Naruto. It turns out Oro obtains Sasuke, while Naruto's power increases yet again. I think Akatsuki's plan is to force Naruto to go all out at some point, causing him to accidentally break the seal and release the full kyuubi.

[Jessper]

Death13a, gather your thoughts before posting and try and use paragraphs, please. Your post was all over the place.

Also don't post preview information in the discussion thread please. If you want to talk about it you can create an Episode 134 preview Discussion thread.

[cybercoin]

yeah, i think ( like many i think) that naruto will learn how to use more power of the Demon Fox. But if he uses it all then the seal will break.
Atleast thats what i think

[DB_Hunter]

OK my thoughts, I know I'm a bit late into the discussion...

All you guys who think Sasuke and Naruto are gay for looking at each other the way they did need to seriously ask are you capable of having a deep friendship with someone of the same sex, let alone the fact that you all need to grow up.

As for the whole Naruto would be nothing without Kyuubi discussion... I still maintain my theory that in order for Naruto to be truly a Hokage in his own right he will have to fight Kyuubi eventually and defeat it in battle, thus redeeming any lost respect he had for using a demon as a chakra source.

[darkshadow]

i dont even think it was kyuubi lvl 2, cause the chakra didnt seem as powerfull when he unleashed kyuubi power the first time against haku, cutting open the ground and everything, kyuubi face manifesting, INSTANTLY healing after haku threw those needles, and yes he also deflected things with his chakra then, then busting haku's face with 1 punch ( the second would be lethal ) and haku is supposed to be stronger than kakashi ( kakashi said it himself), also in narutimate hero2 he had THAT transformation AND his rasengan was 100% more powerfull then what he showed in ep134( it is also as big as naruto himself, and REDDDD).. so im geussing it was more like kyuubi 1.9 or something, cause if that 1 punch leveled haku, all the attackes of kyuubi lvl1 and 1.9 should have totally DESTROYED sasuke instead of giving him goofy ( but funny if you pause it ) expressions, but then again yes its logical that sasuke won......++ to the story

[Mut]

Originally posted by: darkshadow
i dont even think it was kyuubi lvl 2, cause the chakra didnt seem as powerfull when he unleashed kyuubi power the first time against haku, cutting open the ground and everything, kyuubi face manifesting, INSTANTLY healing after haku threw those needles, and yes he also deflected things with his chakra then, then busting haku's face with 1 punch ( the second would be lethal ) and haku is supposed to be stronger than kakashi ( kakashi said it himself), also in narutimate hero2 he had THAT transformation AND his rasengan was 100% more powerfull then what he showed in ep134( it is also as big as naruto himself, and REDDDD).. so im geussing it was more like kyuubi 1.9 or something, cause if that 1 punch leveled haku, all the attackes of kyuubi lvl1 and 1.9 should have totally DESTROYED sasuke instead of giving him goofy ( but funny if you pause it ) expressions, but then again yes its logical that sasuke won......++ to the story

Oh my god, Haku was not stronger than Kakashi. Don't make up lies. And Naruto released more Kyubi than ever before. He healed a LARGE HOLE in his body. That's more than healing a bunch of needle sized stab wounds.

Your post made me angry.

[darkshadow]

damn watch the arc again, kakashi said to naruto that there are ppl younger then him, but also stronger then him, obviously refering to haku, and other references where also made, JUST WATCH IT AGAIN, also kakashi couldnt even get free from a DEAD haku's grip..........i mean lik wow how strong must you be then, also when he sensed that zabuza was gonna die, he stopped naruto veeeery easily, transported in front of zabuza ( with the mirror ) and took the hit, in less then a second, and we all know that haku was a damn genius, who else can make freaking 1 handed seals