Episode 134 Discussion!!!

**Kovash** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 10:13 PM

You need to remember that Naruto wasn't directly controlling the chakra of the Kyuubi, otherwise Sasuke's Sharingan could have percieved his motions.

It is likely that Naruto knew what he wanted to do, and the Kyuubi just did it, he IS a Younma, after all, you don't become a superpowerful demon-god without enourmous Chakra and perfect chakra control - I suppose that would also explain why Naruto managed to do the Rasengan with one hand, the Kyuubi would have helped him.

This is all speculation, however - I just like making sense of what I see, rather than just saying "The anime is stupid and the writers have no idea waht they are doing."

**jeffreysuk** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 10:28 PM

i was also hoping a different rasengan. i mean the cidori became black, but the rasengan stayed the same. or was it purple? o.O

**pakman** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by: basey_69
anyone else notice naruto made that rasengan with one hand [img][/img]

yea i also noticed that too. wonder how he was able to do that?

**Jaredster** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 10:55 PM

maybe because of the sheer amount of chakra that he had going through him that let him do it.

**Mut** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:13 PM

Kyubi did it. Naruto sucks, he can't possibly do anything without the help of the Kyubi.

**XanBcoo** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:15 PM

Mabye he did the Rasengan with one hand because of his lack of chakra control while berserk...

And IF kyuubi helped him, why wasn't it red??

**Deblas** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:16 PM

But Isn't it the same for Sasuke, who can't predict Naruto's movement without his sharingan. Or any other special bloodline out there. Naruto's kyubii its just the same as an advanced bloodline cept he is the only one who has it and not some clan.

**Jaredster** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
Kyubi did it. Naruto sucks, he can't possibly do anything without the help of the Kyubi.

Like defeat Neji, and Haku, and Gaara, and many more that were a lot better than him...

**XanBcoo** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:24 PM

There's a scene in the trailer for the 2nd movie where Naruto uses an orangey/red rasengan.

I know it's from a movie so it might not count...but it still makes more sense to me for the Kyuubi-Rasengan to be red.

**Mut** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:25 PM

^^^ Useless picture. Don't post .bmps either.

Originally posted by: Jaredster

Originally posted by: Mut@t@
Kyubi did it. Naruto sucks, he can't possibly do anything without the help of the Kyubi.

Like defeat Neji, and Zaku, and Gaara, and many more that were a lot better than him...

Naruto beat all of them with the help of the Kyubi. I don't see the point you're trying to prove.

And Naruto never fought Zaku, fgt.

**Jaredster** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:31 PM

Sorry, meant Haku.

Naruto would be nothing without the Kyuubi, but I guess this is the wrong thread for it.

**Kovash** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by: Jaredster
Sorry, meant Haku.

Naruto would be nothing without the Kyuubi, but I guess this is the wrong thread for it.

I BEG to differ.

It has been stated that having the Kyuubi inside him, while it affords him enourmous stamina and chakra, through the early years of his life, the power was foriegn and didn't mix well - hence the design of the Seal to ease his body into it (Jyraiya mentions this) and the Rasengan is proof that Naruto is a fantastic Ninja, he's just had a giant handicap his entire life.

Why is the rasengan proof? Because it's a technique that the 4th invented and only taught his master (Jyraiya) Tsunade and Orochimaru, who both knew what it was, were flabergasted that he could do it - but more importantly, he invented his OWN method for the technique, because the 4th's generic method was too hard.

Naruto IS fantastic, and he keeps on getting better, especially now that the Kyuubi isn't holding him down.

**Mut** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:57 PM

Kovash. Naruto is NOTHING without the Kyubi. It would've taken Naruto possibly decades to be able to do the rasengan the way he can if he didn't have........ KYUBI TO HEAL ALL OF HIS INJURIES OVER NIGHT. Seriously, Naruto has huge ass advantage when it comes to training. He just cannot get tired as easily as everyone else can.

Kyubi > you.

***masamuneehs*** · Thu, 05-12-2005, 11:58 PM

oh, i didn't notice the one hand Rasengan... but I guess that's what they mean by "excelling under pressure"

also Sasuke's wings/hands are a bit creepy, but they did look dang silly flapping around when he was lunging at Naruto. Also, I definetley think Sasuke saw Naruto's Rasengan coming, what with Sharingan and all. But, like was said before, he's very arrogant and wants to beat Naruto straight on. I also like the explanation of their stunned faces after the Chidori Rasengan neutralize each other. I at first thought it was one of those unbearably long pauses right before the attacks land, but I like the idea of the two forces cancelling each other out and both of them just trying to regain some of their pride/ make a point by going for a physical blow.

**kyubisrage** · Fri, 05-13-2005, 12:04 AM

Um sasuke would be a little bitch if he didnt have sharingan or curse seal......

**Jaredster** · Fri, 05-13-2005, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by: kyubisrage
Um sasuke would be a little bitch if he didnt have sharingan or curse seal......

He is a little bitch WITH the sharingan and the cursed seal.

**XanBcoo** · Fri, 05-13-2005, 12:09 AM

Naruto would be nothing without Kyuubi
Gaara would be nothing without Shukaku
Shikamaru would be nothing without his high IQ
Neji would be nothing without his Byakugan
Itach/Sasukei would be nothing without their sharingan
Kakashi would be nothing...

a pattern perhaps?

How about, the characters are badass because of what they have, not because of what they'd be like without these things? Sounds good.

Actually, I agree that some characters do have an unfair advantage, such as Kyuubi and the Curse Seal, but whatever.

**kyubisrage** · Fri, 05-13-2005, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by: Jaredster

Originally posted by: kyubisrage
Um sasuke would be a little bitch if he didnt have sharingan or curse seal......

He is a little bitch WITH the sharingan and the cursed seal.

Roflmao I knew someone was gonna say that. But I agree , because at the end of the ep he said he is gonna obtain power his own way.

**Board of Command** · Fri, 05-13-2005, 12:43 AM

If nobody had any special abilities then the strongest guy would be Rock Lee. Apparently that's not the case here. It's the wide variety of special abilities that make Naruto an interesting show. Their abilities make them who they are, and in Rock Lee's case, the lack of. If special abilities didn't exist, then Rock Lee would never have had the motivation to become what he is, because he'd be a normal guy just like everybody else. The entire point of the show is to show the unique forms of ninjas.

Get over it, Naruto is badass because he's the main character, just like all other main characters in all other shows. The kyuubi aids Naruto's development, which is the ultimate intention of this show. No fun if we just see Naruto getting owned by Itachi for 500 episodes.

**Jeff_from_MD** · Fri, 05-13-2005, 12:45 AM

the clashing rasengan and chidori reminds me of trigun. I don't like spoiling good animes like trigun, so I hope all I've said is just enough and not overboard.
anyway, I guess I can't tell if Naruto meant to only scratch the forehead. But I think it's touching if that's what purposely went through Naruto's mind the most rather than just a blind bloodlust and denial of Sasuke's freshly carved path.

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