I heard plenty of emotion in their voices. Don't know what show you're watching?Originally posted by: Dezalanel
My brother happens to be 12 years old and sounds nothing like that. He does sound like he is a 7 year old Phoenix is exactly right. Besides that I think the voices are horrid. Well not the voices themselves it is the fact that there is no EMOTION in their voice. If they actually showed emotions in their voices I actually might like it.
ok, I just watched the recording of the first two episodes and here are my thoughts on the voice actors...
Overall: Good dub. Not great. Very gritty b/c it's only the first two episodes. Some gripes I've heard complain about pronounciation. PLEASE FOR GOD'S SAKE LET THIS BE THE LAST TIME I HAVE TO SAY IT - THEY PRONOUNCE NARUTO'S NAME CORRECTLY. The only name they struggled with was Konohamaru. The said KonoHAMAru - which made me literally cringe. During the first episode I also noticed Iruka say Mizooki once or twice, but everything else was spot on. Perfect pronounciation and I loved the way they handled the Jutsu names. Leaving the word "jutsu" in there after a literal translation of the technique was a very good way to go IMO. It's definitely better than Viz's manga translations....Other than that I've also heard people say that some characters lacked emotion. I largely agree with this as some lines came off rather corny. Some of the things they said made me and my friend laugh out loud because they sounded so lame in English. Perhaps it is because the actors are still inexperienced with the show. I'm looking forward to improvement because it sounds very promising so far.
1. Naruto - very very touchy subject. I've heard a lot of people complain that he sounds too young and too raspy. I can definitely tell they were trying to go for similarity to the Japanese voice. She handled Naruto's personality very well. My only problem with the actress is her delivery of Naruto's lines. They all sound the same. She, so far, has the least emotion behind her lines...EXCEPT the "If you touch my sensei...I'll kill you" <--THAT was awesome. Very well done. Everything else sounded stupid. The actress sounds like she smokes 90 a day when she does her high pitches, but handles Naruto's voice well when he's serious. I also thought it was funny how they translated "DATEBAYO" as "beleive it". A little corny at times...but I'll live with it. I also think the actress was great during the end of the second episode. I bought it completely. I think if I get used to her raspy voice, I'll begin to like it.
2 Iruka - In short, I think he handles the lower tones very well but when he shouts he sounds pretty dumb. He's got an average voice and doesn't stand out much unless he does a bad job. Sadly, he does do a rather bad job. His performance during the first episode when he was crying was so....he didn't even sound upset!!! He sounded like he was giving a lecture! 0 emotion. I was looking forward to that scene and hoped they would handle it well. There are some scenes in Naruto that carry a lot of emotion, and sadly Iruka couldn't convey it. Other than that he sounds ok. Like I said, average voice.
3. Mizuki - man I'm I pissed he's gone for the next 150 episodes. This was the best voice of the lot from the first two episodes. He sounded the most "real". Too bad so sad. Not much to say b/c he won't be back until fillers, which inherently suck anyway.
4. Hokage - What can I say? I was worried he'd sound stupid or goofy, but I love this guy's voice so far. Not corny or lame whatsoever. He sounds like your typical "wise elder" - which is really what the Hokage is during the early parts of the series. There were only 2 or 3 times I laughed at what he said, only because of the weirdness of teh script (i.e. "Mizuki has a big mouth" and then again when he mentioned the "ancients", [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] just made me laugh). I don't see how anyone can complain about this voice. Very nice - especially when he gives his speech to Iruka about how Naruto is the villiage's "hero". I FELT that speech. No loss of emotion whatsoever in my opinion. This guy only shows room for improvement.
4. Ebisu - Crispin Freeman fucking rocks. I'm pissed they gave him Ebisu, as we only see him again for a few episodes in the 50's. Imagine, giving an experienced and talented voice actor (who is familiar with and enjoys anime) such a minor role. Bad move Viz. That's my only complaint. Other than that, I loved it. I actually laughed at parts from the second episode that didn't make me laugh because of Freeman's delivery. Love it.
5. Konohamaru - HAH! Perfectly done! I can't imagine how they could have done a better job. The actress' voice is so fucking cute and fits Konohamaru's personality so well. No corny-ness or lameness either b/c...well...Konohamaru is a little kid. If it did sound corny, it was because it was meant to. She also displayed a lot of emotion during her serious scenes in episode two. Nice casting on this one Viz.
Again, despite what I've said about how good or bad the voices were, all of them are subject to change as they "grow" into their respective roles. The dub is not perfect, and not "great" either. It's passable and some parts of it are actually very very good. The only complaints have come from sub purists and idiots who can't pronounce "Naruto" correctly. I'll admit, some parts are truly laughable because they are so LAME. I mean completely and utterly CORNY and LAME and STUPID. I cringed at parts...But I do not think these parts "ruined" the dub at all. Part of it is really just the way the script is written (for da kiddies). They are just little road blocks that the actors are going to have to overcome in the course of the series. I enjoyed the dub. I was expecting something terrible and now all I can say is...
Thank you Viz for not fucking it up
Edit: I only listed the major voices. During the first two eps and the commercials, I also heard Ino, Shikamaru, Sakura, and Kakashi. But there was too little to go on, so I'll wait for future episodes to bitch about them [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] (Kakashi sounds pretty good btw).
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just a little question... since it won't be out in canada t'ill september 16th, should i download it? because it's already out in Torrent
Edit : ok.. i have downloaded the dubbed version... and i have just 1 think to say, the ending suck lol
I gotta say, my biggest issue with the episode was the multiple commercials, I felt that it really ruined the flow/continuity of the eps. Also, it irritated me that they no longer say hand seals.
That its all.
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Wow thats a lot of difference no wonder it looked kind of weird when I was watching it. and I agree, a post about the differences would be cool. better yet there should be one with a picture of the manga then the original anime then the toonami version.
this should appear before irukas bloody nose in the dub it appears after
scene cuts short as a result this part is missing (about 2 1/2 seconds) second scene is extended to compensate
blood missing
Insignificant missing scene
scene edited around looped and 3rd frame is missing
overall the only stuff missing is the blood, a few insignificant scenes and the intro and outro
WoW wasn't i bored today
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Next Halloween is gonna suck.... Although I can't wait to see some kids fall out of the neighbors trees and sue them for their own stupidity...
So... am I the only one who found this combination funny?Originally posted by: The Next Hokage
That actually wasn't as bad as I thought. I can't beleive I forgot how funny Konohamaru's entrance was...that *smack!* was awesome. The voice I hated most was Sakura's...that voice just didn't suit her...at all. Shika's, Ino's, and Hinata's voice fit their characters, so those weren't too bad. Really not that much to say...it was "quite" decently done, keeping in mind what KitKat said. So yeah, I'm not as dissapointed as I initially thought I'd be.
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I'd like to download these dubs, just to hear them at least... well, just ep 1, I've never cared much for Konohamaru and while Ebisu can be fun I hate Crispin Freeman. WIth passion. I don't know why but I hate him.
Anyway, from what I've heard from the trailers I don't think Naruto's voice is THAT bad. Sure, its a little annoying but the character's suppossed to sound like that... you know, on his crusade to get attention and what not? Or maybe its just that I've heard such TERRIBLE dubs that this sounds great in comparision. Go and find Lost Universe dubbed and then you'll LOVE Naruto's dub.
What I hate the most so far is how they pronounce Naruto. Sure, they've got the "Na" nailed, but they still say "Narutou" or something, instead of making it sound "Narutoh". Someone said before (a long while ago) that hispanic actors would be able to pronounce things correctly, and I think he's right. Spanish and Japanese's phonetic are very alike.
And it seems they did a good job translating the names. It was too much to expect they would leave them in japanese (sigh, for the time when that happens...) but at least they didn't use the manga translation, which sucked royally.
What sucked the most was that they changed the OP and ED. I mean, ROCKS wasn't the best example of Jrock but it was catchy and fits the show... and Wind?? Where's Wind??? It was in english! Well, engrish, but still!! And its a too damned beautiful song!! The songs/mixes they used were nice but still... Gundam Wing's theme was left untranslated (I think?) and Inuyasha's animation was intact. Why, then??
And I still hate Cripsin Freeman.
Disgusting. Absolute fucking shit. Sounded like they were reading the lines as they went along, the translations are unnatural, I mean who the hell talks like that? Thank god I never have to watch it like this, can't beat the original language. I get the feeling I will want to cry if I ever have to hear what they do to Orochimaru's voice. I don't understand how anyone would chose to listen to this rubbish given the choice, when the DVDs come will anyone actually bother listening to the English dub???
Edit: Actually to be fair I hate episode 2 far less than the first one but it still sucks ass
Now watching the seires it is fairly bad and it makes me wish that ADV had got to this before Viz instead of wasting time buying crappy anime. Because IMO ADV would have done a much better job with the VA's, though the few little bits I have heard of Kakashi's voice sounded OK. Oh, and on the bright side this stole the One Piece slot on CN which is still worse than Naruto I think.
"Said it wrong"
Each country has different accents and different pronunciation of words, learn to accept it
Problem is the names are NOT english names, they're JAPANESE ones, so you should not use english pronunciation especially when it really isn't that hard to take 5 minutes to instruct the VA in how to say a few japense names.Originally posted by: Tinks
"Said it wrong"
Each country has different accents and different pronunciation of words, learn to accept it
Keep in mind the intended audience of this dub. It's an English dub, aimed at English speaking children. They have no concept of the 'correct' way to pronounce Japanese names. For the majority of these kids, what they think of as correct will be whatever they hear. In fact, the anglicized version of saying Naruto will sound more correct to them, rather than a pronunciation that contains sounds foreign to the English language. The only reason it bothers us is because we're used to the subtitles, and we're used to hearing spoken Japanese. It makes sense for them to anglicize the Japanese words to make them easier for their audience to hear and pronounce.
Only 2 things pissed me off, because everything else (even the lacking of nose bleeds) was expected to me:
1.) The changing of the intro and ending. I mean the same guys did InuYasha, why not keep Naruto's opening/ending themes?
2.) Episode 1: Iruka. That was the only part that sounded like it was being read from a script. I mean, the character is crying his eyes dry and he's saying very everything monotone. Horrible. Say the following very monotonic: "I am sad" and that's basically what it was...
That and the honorable grandson of the honorable Hokage... who happens to be honorable. "I was named after the ancient name of this village" I was wondering how they'd get around calling "The Village Hidden in the Leaves" Konoha for that explanation of Konohamarou's name.
Edit: Also, about the blood spurting out of their nose and everything, I'm kinda surprised they edited that so much... especially given that they all clean their noses for no apparent reason a second later lol. I laughed when Hokage stood back up and rubbed his nose with a tissue for no apparent reason, that was f'n great. SEXY NO JUTSU! "Hmm, suddenly I am having a cold"
Yeah is there anywhere we can download the dubbed version? I'm curious as to how badly they can mess up.
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For the first two episodes, go here and dl the torrents: Click Me
If that doesn't work, go to: http://www.torrentspy.com/ and type in "naruto dub".
For all you awesome people, it's just Phoenix. The numbers are just the amount of times people misspell it.
http://www.mininova.org/tor/107806 - Naruto 1 - Enter Naruto Uzumaki! - CN Eng Dub avi
http://www.mininova.org/tor/107812 - Naruto 2 - My Name is Konohamaru! - CN Eng Dub avi
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