Next Generation Systems

[Y]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
RPG......
Music (DDR, Amplitude, etc).......

Yep, that pretty much covers it for spawning genre revolutions
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Naturally, you leave out the most influential console game of this generation, Grand Theft Auto III (and Halo, hurr). The freeform nature of that game hadn't been done on anywhere near that scale, and while the sequels just tweak the formula it's impossible to deny the influence that game will have for the next decade of design. It's the Super Mario 64 of this console generation.

and thats it.
Most other hit PS2 games are also on other consoles....

The PS2 has the most system exclusive developers and titles. And by the way, the system that gets PS2 ports is the Xbox - the GC has routinely gotten shafted in that area.

Maybe if you and Mut weren't so busy sucking each other's cocks in the IRC channel, i could've lurked up something that would better support your argument than the lame PS2 fanboy approach of (OMG YOU LIKE NINTENDO THEREFORE YOU = 8 YEARS OLD).

Yes that is exactly what I said.

sharoon:
That sounds like a fanboy if I've ever seen one. See how I bolded "fanboy"? Wanted to dabble in yellow journalism myself.

Thank god I uploaded the emoticon, because I'm going to get a lot of use out of it on your post. Gee, giggles, is it hard for you to wrap your brain around the idea that I can pay a compliment to a game system without being a "fanboy"? I mean, there's a clear difference between saying "The PS2 has a lot of good games" and "Boy, Ken Kutaragi's dick tastes good". I own all three consoles from this generation, and they each have their strengths.

Actually, no. There is no way PS2 gets that glory over Xbox. If anything, Xbox is more deserving. Have you played Ninja Gaiden? So much more revolutionary than Devil May Cry,

The only reason Ninja Gaiden plays like it does is because of Devil May Cry, just like the fact that DMC3 plays like it does because it built on Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden owes a debt to DMC1 for breaking the ground that it built upon.

and I'd rather play Splinter Cell than Metal Gear Solid.

Uh, ok. So how does that prove it's more revolutionary? Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 are probably the two greatest experiments in gaming (on opposite sides of a spectrum). You appear to be confusing "I like game X more than game Y" with "Game X is more revolutionary then game Y". Splinter Cell's biggest revolution is moving the camera over, which admittedly was a good idea.

The only thing PS2 and the PS lineage has ever had over any console is RPGs, and as much as you'd hate to admit it, they haven't been that great.

Actually, I like to "admit" that the PS1 and PS2's RPG lineup sodomizes any other console except the Super NES. The Xbox's Knights Of The Old Republic is stronger than almost any PS1/2 RPG in my opinion, but the sheer breadth of the titles in Sony's library speaks well for it. I don't think you can make a strong case for hating down the entirety of the Playstation's RPG lineup.

Remind me to laugh my ass off, or roll on the floor laughing, depending on the severity of how badly Revolution does end up owning PS3.

I wouldn't ask you to pick my lotto numbers.

Then I'll take the liberty to take a shit on you and your PS3, you fucking douche.

This is the guy who called me a fanboy.

PS3 game development will make developers want to change their careers

Thank you, game developer sharoon.

Anyway, there's a lot more after that, but these kinds of posts keep growing exponentially. Plus, really, when your argument is "PS3 sucks dicks and I shit in Sony's mouth and Nintendo has a huge dick and shit ass fuck cock shit... oh and you're a fanboy", I can't exactly use rationality to appeal to you.

[Krbadass]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Microsoft's getting Logitech to make the controllers for Xbox 360 this time. We all remember what happened when Microsoft tried to design controllers...

I didn't think it was that bad.. for the x box, at least the smaller versions weren't bad.

[Y]

Yeah, the Xbox Controller-S was a great design.

I know it's oh so hilarious to complain about a corrected 4 year old mistake, but it's over and done with.

[Tinks]

Most of the reason for PS1/PS2 being so strong in rpgs is because Square has always played a major role in keeping Sony afloat, especially in the final years of PS1. Square is derived from the companies responsible for the RPGs on SuperNes like titles such as Secret Of Mana(my personal favorite).

Personally I hate Sony for taking out the Dreamcast, one of the best systems with the most innovative games put out in such a short span.

[darkshadow]

Originally posted by: sharoon

I don't feel the need to reply to anything else you said because it insults my intelligence, but I thoroughly like how you said Sony has Dead or Alive when every Tecmo game has been an Xbox-exclusive.

you've got alot of anger in you dont ya?

every tecmo game you say? you insult my and you own intelligence by stating such crap:
2006 Dead or Alive Code: Cronus Xbox 360
2006 Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2 Xbox 360
2005 Dead or Alive 4 Xbox 360
2005 Fatal Frame 3 PlayStation 2
2005 Tokobot PSP
2005 Monster Farm 5: Circus Caravan PlayStation 2
2005 Trapt PlayStation 2
2005 Ninja Gaiden Black Xbox
2005 Tecmo Classic Arcade Xbox
2005 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory PC
2005 Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen 3 PlayStation 2
2005 All Girl Wrestling: Ultimate Angels Mobile
2004 Kagero II: Dark Illusion PlayStation 2
2004 GunGriffon: Allied Strike Xbox
2004 Tecmo Hit Parade PlayStation 2
2004 Ninja Gaiden Episode 1: Destiny Mobile
2004 Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly Director's Cut Xbox

i can already c 9 non xbox titels in that list of tecmo games, and the list goes way back to 1984, but presuming you are talking about this generation you are dead wrong seeing as how tecmo was developing for ps2 since 2000, and 2005 Fatal Frame 3 PlayStation 2 isnt even released yet, so shut up

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Y
Naturally, you leave out the most influential console game of this generation, Grand Theft Auto III (and Halo, hurr). The freeform nature of that game hadn't been done on anywhere near that scale, and while the sequels just tweak the formula it's impossible to deny the influence that game will have for the next decade of design. It's the Super Mario 64 of this console generation.

I think you're losing track of the discussion Y....because (correct me if I'm wrong) I could've sworn we were talking about the PS2 here. Halo? What does that have to do with anything? With GTA III at least, I can see the attempt you tried to make, but it still doesn't work since it is no longer a PS2-exclusive title. Unless you are treating your post in a completely moronic way, I'm assuming that you are making your judgement on my console interests to the fact that I solely play Nintendo games. Which is wrong. You should know that I own a modded X-box, as I've mentioned it many times. This whole summer, in fact, the only time i was playing Nintendo games intead of X-box games were when my friends wanted to play Nintendo games.

In any case....you're bringing up anti-Nintendo points instead of pro-PS2 points.....which doesn't really fit the discussion at all, because I didn't make any pro-Nintendo post in the first place [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

The PS2 has the most system exclusive developers and titles. And by the way, the system that gets PS2 ports is the Xbox - the GC has routinely gotten shafted in that area.

I've already mentioned the irrelevance to your anti-Nintendo points.

Yes that is exactly what I said.

glad to know that you and your cliche goon-gifs agree [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Originally posted by: Mut@chi
*generic insta-retort SA Goon gif*

I see you're relying on a new form of media to get your point across when text just doesnt quite cut it, eh mutsy? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Ironically, you accuse me of fabricating points to support my argument, but then go and pull assumptions out of the air and accuse me of being a Nintendo fanboy just the same. Way to go champ. Just for the record, note the line I said to Y above, where i said "This whole summer, in fact, the only time i was playing Nintendo games intead of X-box games were when my friends wanted to play Nintendo games."

It's not that I'm all about Nintendo, its just that I don't like Sony. Noob.

[Y]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

I think you're losing track of the discussion Y....because (correct me if I'm wrong) I could've sworn we were talking about the PS2 here. Halo? What does that have to do with anything?

I mentioned that the most influential console game of this generation is GTAIII, and as an aside, I mentioned Halo as well. What's confusing about that, exactly? I was preempting a comment from someone like Deblas giving credit to Halo for being more influential than GTA on this generation.

With GTA III at least, I can see the attempt you tried to make, but it still doesn't work since it is no longer a PS2-exclusive title

So it stopped being an influential game that debuted on a Sony system when it was ported? I guess Halo is no longer influential since it was ported to PC.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with the points I was making.

[Assertn]

So basically...............I should buy a PS2 just because GTA 3 was released on it FIRST? Guess what, I do own the first system that the GTA revolutionized on: The PC. GTA 3 isn't really much more than a 3D version of the classic GTA 2 game that I used to play back in the day. In any case, I'm not the type of person to jump and buy a new console just for a game. If it's going to show up on another console too, then what's the rush? At least with an Xbox I can have my GTA III AND my Halo at the same time.

If the rest of my post has nothing to do with the points you were making......then I have no idea what the points were that you were making.

You people are forgetting.....my point is that if all I cared about buying a PS3 is because its latest game is what all the kiddies are playing, then I'd be buying a console as a trend whore. However, I don't really care what the latest game is that all the kiddies are playing, because the kiddies as a collective is retarded anyway.

[Tinks]

I'd say Resident Evil 4 is more revolutionary than Halo or GTA

[darkshadow]

is it?? all i noticed was they changed the camera.........no big deal there

[Tinks]

haha


Texture is crazy

[basey44]

lol no way that games graphics, i looked at it and thought "why did he post a pic of a fire station lol"

[darkshadow]

no those are stated to be ingame gfx for project gotham racing 3, ppl wouldnt believe it, but then the guy manipulateed the camera with his controller and took screens in normal and wireframe

[ConsolesAreInferior]

I'm sick of all you Asian-wannabe pimple-faced 8th graders arguing over whose console is better. One of these days you might grow up and realize that nobody in the real world gives a shit about consoles except for unemployed college dropouts who wasted all their money on Grand Theft Auto. Maybe if you all realized that console hardware and software is three years obsolete the day it comes out then you would pull your heads out of your asses and buy a PC. All of you argue over whose console is betterbut you fail to realize that all consoles are shallow, hasbeen systems that can't even begin to compete with PC culture.

If any of you want to talk about genre revolutions then you're obviously looking in the wrong place. PC games have revolutionized every genre time and again and none of you poser chinks noticed because you all have your heads up your asses. If you want to see a RPG revolution then you might want to look up a little phrase called MMORPG. Single player RPG's have been dead for years and you stupid punks keep expecting more from it. Games like WoW, SWG, Guild Wars, and Everquest are where the real RPG revolution is taking place. So yeah Square released FFonline on the PS2 as well as the PC. Real creative Sony. Why don't you go copy some more PC technology and pretend that it was your idea. The PC has also revolutionized every other genre of gaming with the exception of platformers, but who the hell honestly plays Frogger. Dumb shits like you people no doubt. PC gaming revolutionized the FPS in 2004 again with the release of not one, but three brilliant titles in Far Cry, Doom 3, and Half-Life2. The same goes for Strategy with gems such as Rise of Nations. So if any of you dipshits want to say that consoles revolutionize gaming then shove it up your narrow suburban non-Asian shitter.

And also shut up about how great the technology on PS3 is going to be. The hardware specs of the PS3 aren't even as good as a sub-par gaming PC in 2003. In fact, if it weren't for the PC then your stupid little consoles wouldn't even exist. Every new piece of console hardware technology is nothing more than second-rate PC components that have been out for at least two generations.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter which console looks better or sells better. You should all be collectively sucking the cock of the PC because it dwarfs the cocks of your puny consoles like a black man to an Asian.

You're a dumb gimmick. You're gone.

GotWoot Moderator

[darkshadow]

lol omg some1 has some issues, nice first post and name though [/sarcasm]
if you had not noticed, the topic is named nex gen system, the pc is never a next gen system cause it gets constantly upgraded, btw the xbox360 will be about 300$, maybe a bit more but not much, a decent gaming pc will cost you at least 4 times that price, plz dont post stupid rant like that ne more

[Tinks]

And also shut up about how great the technology on PS3 is going to be. The hardware specs of the PS3 aren't even as good as a sub-par gaming PC in 2003. In fact, if it weren't for the PC then your stupid little consoles wouldn't even exist. Every new piece of console hardware technology is nothing more than second-rate PC components that have been out for at least two generations.

The graphics chip in a PS3 is more powerful than any PC of today and hasnt even been released to the PC market yet same with the Xbox 360

The PC has just as much to owe to consoles as they do to the PC; consoles helped more developers flourish and be created allowing developers to branch out to a broader audience. The PCs growth wouldnt be where it has come without consoles period.

But like, the PC mouse and keyboard are like so like better than the controllers on consoles, like FPS arent even meant to be on consoles! haha

Anyways, back to next gen game systems
So far the only games that really interest me right now I believe are Gears of War, and Dead Rising... other than that not too impressed.

[Assertn]

I'd like to see a wireframe version of said fire dept image

Until then I'm going to interpret that image as nothing more than just a photographed texture mapped onto a flat plane [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[darkshadow]

here ya go [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
CLICK!!

[Assertn]

hmm......interesting.......
i'd like to see what it looks like with full global illumination......sometimes scenes can still be "tricked" into 3d by painting the shadows in. In any case, those scenes are going to have alot of polygons o.o

Actually, looking back at the pics.....it's probably a combination of painted and rendered shadows. Still impressive though.

Alan Wake

[ChaosK]

hah, i bet consolesareinferior is sharoon. the "both" came in here just to rant about consoles. and sharoons been banned so he probably made a new one.

anyway, darkshadow, where'd you get the info that Xbox 360 would be $300ish?