Episode 133 Discussion!!!

**Psyke** · Sun, 05-08-2005, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
i still think it would be the coolest thing ever to see sasuke bust out kage bunshin suddenly........
the sharingan is known for its copy abilities, and sasuke never uses it........
-_-

Not never. He used it once, way back during the chunin exams, on Lee.

Dezalanel · Sun, 05-08-2005, 11:30 PM

Didnt you notice in the episode....he connects the dots when remembering Itachi talking about capturing Naruto with Jiraiya. I am not sure that he realizes that the Kyuubi is inside of him but he does realize that there is something fucked up going on with him lol

**Noir** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 12:16 AM

Best fight I have ever seen in an anime period. Not best animation... but when your characters are moving that fast with punches everywhere and proper pain reactions of course they look stupid on freeze capture. But fast paced they look sweet.

Sasuke looks weird at level 2 of curse? For sure he does.
But Naruto with his red chakra kind of looked kiddy too (no offense lads).

By far Neji still looks the coolest haha.

***Assertn*** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by: y4but
i could be wrong, but i don't know if the sole purpose of sharingan is to copy other people's techniques... similar to what's already been said, it's probably grants a huge sense of insight. i think that we haven't really been told a whole lot about what sharingan really does besides that.

i think most people think it's for just copying shit is because kakashi does it really well. i also think that that's just the way he chooses to use it, like, he has an incredible amount of insight on his opponent and just chooses to copy their stuff, hence deeming him the famous copy ninja. i don't think that uchiha was called a copy ninja clan or anything...

anyway i don't know for sure but i think the reason why he doesn't copy a lot is because he doesn't really choose to use it in that sort of way. like i'm sure it's because he's not experienced enough but its probably more than that.

iono watever

the direct translation of sharingan is "copy wheel eye"

Psyke: yes........thanks.......i didn't mean never LITERALLY, but w/e -_-

**Psyke** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure

the direct translation of sharingan is "copy wheel eye"

Psyke: yes........thanks.......i didn't mean never LITERALLY, but w/e -_-

Oh ok.....

For the Sharingan part you've got translation correct, but I'd like add on:

sha - ™ - Write; copy

rin - * - Wheel; cycle

gan - < - Eye

EDIT: Some how the kanji characters I've included can't really be read......

**DarthEnderX** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 01:45 AM

Oh well then its OBVIOUSLY the Write-cycle-eye.

**Psyke** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 01:55 AM

Yes, actually that would make more sense in my language. I'm not kidding..... From hearing the word Sharingan I would think of "write - cycle - eye", which is the direct translation. Based on the kanji characters, of course.

**Jessper** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by: DarthEnder
Oh well then its OBVIOUSLY the Write-cycle-eye.

rofl, I thought the exact same thing when I read Psyke's post. Yours made me LOL though, thank you =)

In other news, I'm glad they leave those names untranslated and I can't understand them (man that must sound so awful!)

**darkshadow** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 05:35 PM

sharingan doesnt need to c the handseals to copy ( at least kakashi doesnt ), also when sasuke used sharingan a few times earlier ( i think it was at rock lee ) he said show me your secrets, i think it can analyze a move, understand its power, its requirments ( which seals it needs) and copy it, y do i say this? in the movie kakashi doesnt c the seals the snow guy is making, cause hes running in a different direction, but still he manages to copy it simply by looking at the jutsu ( that big unicorn whale thing), but then again kakashi is kakashi [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

**XanBcoo** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by: darkshadow
sharingan doesnt need to c the handseals to copy ( at least kakashi doesnt ), also when sasuke used sharingan a few times earlier ( i think it was at rock lee ) he said show me your secrets, i think it can analyze a move, understand its power, its requirments ( which seals it needs) and copy it, y do i say this? in the movie kakashi doesnt c the seals the snow guy is making, cause hes running in a different direction, but still he manages to copy it simply by looking at the jutsu ( that big unicorn whale thing), but then again kakashi is kakashi [img][/img]

It's prolly not a good idea to source the movie for information.

Also, there is probably merit to Kakashi's nickname. His fighting syle is proof of this as he copies EVERYTHING when he fights. It's not just because he uses the copy wheel eye (or write circle eye, hehe), but that he is a "copy-ninja" because of how he fights. I think that's what y4but was saying.
While all of it's capabilities are known, we have not really seen any other Uchiha member use the sharingan in quite the same way as Kakashi has.

**darkshadow** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 06:35 PM

yeah i agree, thats why i said kakashi is kakashi [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

**XanBcoo** · Mon, 05-09-2005, 06:37 PM

The edit function was screwing up for me, so I'll finish my point now.

While all of it's capabilities are known, we have not really seen any other Uchiha member use the sharingan in quite the same way as Kakashi has so copying jutsus doesn't seem to be it's only use...despite it's name.
Hell, the two most powerful Sharingan influenced attacks (as far as we know) are the ones we've seen Itachi use. Neither of which copy anything.

I had forgotten to say that earlier, and that was my main point (bleahh).

EDIT (now it works!): w00t I'm a genin!!!

**lilphatboi88** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 02:20 AM

People are talking about Sasuke not copying and stuff like that. But against Naruto, there's nothing to copy. He can't copy rasengan can he? What type of move is that?

**DarthEnderX** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 03:35 AM

Jiraya specifically said that Rasengan can't be copied by Sharingan BECAUSE it has no hand seals.

Essentially, the Sharingan copies movements. So it allows the user to copy Taijitsu techniques and any jitsu's that use hand seals.

**Rek** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 10:51 AM

its not that it doesn't have any hand seals, its just a technique of pure skill. Anyone can tell its chakra being manipulated in the hand, the secret is actually fucking doing it.

now, Sasuke could copy naruto's Kage Bunshin like kakashi did... but beyond that, all naruto has is summoning, and he's never used it infront of him.

**Psyke** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by: Konoha Rek
its not that it doesn't have any hand seals, its just a technique of pure skill. Anyone can tell its chakra being manipulated in the hand, the secret is actually fucking doing it.

now, Sasuke could copy naruto's Kage Bunshin like kakashi did... but beyond that, all naruto has is summoning, and he's never used it infront of him.

1. I don't think Kakashi needed to copy Naruto's kage bushin. As a jounin he should have that ability a long time ago.

2. Sharingan users cannot copy the Kuchiyose no Jutsu. Remember the contract signed in blood?

**Darkcarnage** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 02:17 PM

true Rasengan can not be copied cause while it is moving chakra it takes training and knowlage of the tricks to use the move, Sasuke can see teh chakra but he can see how the wpoer was gathered, fosuced and how it being held together on a ball form. all he seeing it a ball of chakra. now if he was told how teh mvoe works and tired it a few tiems i think he could master it. i think regensan vs lighting edge the chakra toll very diffent. lighting edge using alot of chakra but it while and lashing out all over teh place. regensan takes chakra and keeping it formed and controled in a ball so none bleeds off keping it attack power at max.

over all great eps. 133. i hope 134 follows and amkes it worth woile to watch. i want to see a massive beat down to someone soon. right now it seem like a tie.

does it seem odd naruto can use pure demon fox chakra and be suffen 0 effects ? shouldn't he get hurt, be in pain or something by now?

**JuBeI_ YaGyu** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 05:53 PM

Hi everyone. First time posting ever. Just wanted to say that this episode kicked major ass. Shitti animation though, that fucked things up cuz i couldn't even concentrate on teh fight because of all the shitty drawings. Anyways, the fight was pretty cool and naruto getting all Kyuubi on Sasuke was real tight. just one thing...... is naruto fire-proof??? wtf??

**Death13a** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 07:12 PM

At Preview of 134 Naruto mentioned that he can't keep Kyuubi power anymore. And it was mentioned before that Fox's chakra puts Naruto's body in stress. So Naruto will die if he uses power anylonger. So in 134 he probebly stop using Kyuubi or he will risk and use Rasengan combined with fox's chakra(should be fun to whatch as Naruto will use all that power in a singal ball full of fox's chakra and if he Actualy make a directl hit on sasuke )

**darkshadow** · Tue, 05-10-2005, 07:16 PM

why dont ppl still know the difference between art and animation, its been posted so many time

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