no it was the response to r3n's post.
edit: meant db hunter's
no it was the response to r3n's post.
edit: meant db hunter's
So you didn't even respond to mine? Ok. I'll make another one.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
no it was the response to r3n's post.
edit: meant db hunter's
Iraq's gassing of the Kurds was done with the full support of the United States.
Your an idiot. What views? soldier quotes, media, photos taken by americans, news reported by americans. Your too gullible. You have no idea what you are talking about in the first place. So don't go on saying your views.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
deblas your a moron. i was responding to Y's and some others views on the parallel between iraq and germany.
dont put words in my mouth.
Why don't you just take a look at DB's pictures and compare it with yours.
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Come on Deblas, we can all have a nice and informative chat about the Gulf War here without insults directed at our good posters like Sharingan-Kakashi.
Did you know that not only did Hussein allow U.N weapons inspectors into the country and grant them unrestricted access, but that he was in the middle of destroying the al Samoud missiles judged by the inspectors to exceed the range limit prescribed by the U.N. when the U.S. invaded?
deblas you obviously have no clue what the fuck we are talking about, your statement doesnt even make sense. if im an idiot then why did you message me 6 times with friend requests on the gotwoot community.
to Y here: http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_...ecialoct02.asp
edit: btw ill take my picture over a few idiot troops' mistakes.
Congratulations. I know damn well Iraq has a long history of dicking with weapons inspectors. Note, of course, that your link does not disprove anything I said since it stops cataloguing actions over a year before Gulf War II started.
Your picture means nothing.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
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edit: btw ill take my picture over a few idiot troops' mistakes.
It's all propaganda. There's the truth, and there's the projected truth. Take your pick.
wtf... I'm sure it said "Page not found" after clicking reply!
Here is something which sums up my opinion far, far more eloquently than I can hope to do.
Thank you, John Adams.[America] has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....
LOL. Thats beside the point. You really are an idiot. Though I didn't think so. Thats why I messaged you, but it seems that you didn't want to be my friend in the first place soooooo*flicks finger* Fuck you! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
deblas you obviously have no clue what the fuck we are talking about, your statement doesnt even make sense. if im an idiot then why did you message me 6 times with friend requests on the gotwoot community.
Ohh yea. Of course I know what I'm talking about. I have the same views as all the posters here who say your full of shit. Your the only one here who believes everything the media tells you.
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says you. to the john adams quote, one of my favorite presidents from my home state i have to add lol, i think john adams opinion would be much different in today's age, especially after wwi/wwii and the fall of the soviet union. the world is much smaller now after all, and america has a much stronger foundation, so why not help others achieve independance.Originally posted by: Y The Alien
Congratulations. I know damn well Iraq has a long history of dicking with weapons inspectors. Note, of course, that your link does not disprove anything I said since it stops cataloguing actions over a year before Gulf War II started.
Your picture means nothing.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
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edit: btw ill take my picture over a few idiot troops' mistakes.
edit: forgot about deblas, how the fuck do i believe everything the media tells me, i dont even watch the news. i make my opinions from first hand accounts of troops who have been to iraq, and from shit i read.
John Adams' quote is no less valid today then it was over 200 years ago. Your presumption to second-guess the motives of a former President is laughable. The logic behind Adams' idea is true and was borne out in this exact scenario when Britain performed this identical invasion in the early 1900s.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
says you. to the john adams quote, one of my favorite presidents from my home state i have to add lol, i think john adams opinion would be much different in today's age, especially after wwi/wwii and the fall of the soviet union. the world is much smaller now after all, and america has a much stronger foundation, so why not help others achieve independance.
To put it more simply, some things change and some things do not. Britain "helped" Iraq achieve independence in 1917. It was a complete and total failure despite the overwhelming military superiority of Britain.
Why the hell would America send troops to Irak to help gain their independence if they are not expecting something in return. I'm sure their views are lets bring love, independence and peace to the world.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
says you. to the john adams quote, one of my favorite presidents from my home state i have to add lol, i think john adams opinion would be much different in today's age, especially after wwi/wwii and the fall of the soviet union. the world is much smaller now after all, and america has a much stronger foundation, so why not help others achieve independance.Originally posted by: Y The Alien
Congratulations. I know damn well Iraq has a long history of dicking with weapons inspectors. Note, of course, that your link does not disprove anything I said since it stops cataloguing actions over a year before Gulf War II started.
Your picture means nothing.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
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edit: btw ill take my picture over a few idiot troops' mistakes.
Ohh. And your welcome to join as a friend of mine in the community. You don't seem to have any. Saves the embarassment.
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my point is this, america cant go back to being neutral after world war i and world war ii.
edit: yea nice one deblas, you got me there. you seem to think that you know how i think. you seem to think i am naive enough to believe america is doing this only for the benefit of the iraqi people. i am not a pro american person as i think you believe, but i do believe in the ideal of america. btw iraq is spelled with a q on the end.
edit2: lol jus going back and forth with y i will get him to 1000 posts thought this was funny.
And my point is that you are wrong because there is nothing supporting the idea that two large wars (one of which was a terrible fucking idea that led to the second) changed the shape of geopolitics and military actions for eternity.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
my point is this, america cant go back to being neutral after world war i and world war ii.
Yea well, Thanks to America not being neutral in the first place will probably cause world war III. Funny ain't it. Are you gonna approve of that too.
edit: Ohh no. SK just grammar burned me! Damn, Y. You really type fast.
There you go. From where do you read from? Time magazine? Give me a break.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
edit: forgot about deblas, how the fuck do i believe everything the media tells me, i dont even watch the news. i make my opinions from first hand accounts of troops who have been to iraq, and from shit i read.
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world war iii with who? lol i think ill just ignore your posts now.
@ Y: how can you not think that wwii shows america can not just stay nuetral just because there is an ocean between europe and america?
The U.S. couldn't remain neutral in World War II because Germany declared war on us after their allies bombed us.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
@ Y: how can you not think that wwii shows america can not just stay nuetral just because there is an ocean between europe and america?
Prior to that the U.S. was rightfully neutral, much like we should have been in World War I.
EDIT:
Equivocating any and all international conflicts as though they are all the same is an extremely dangerous pattern that is all too prevalent nowadays.
and if pearl harbor was not bombed the us would have allowed britain to lose? this is what you are saying right? the us is a nation made up of people who come from all over the world, imo, it is impossible to stay nuetral in another countries politics when your people are from those countries.
edit: deblas your a fuckin moron. wwi was started because of crazed nationalism and imperialism, wwii because germany got shitted on with the treaty of versailles and britain and france allowing them to build back up. iraq has no outstanding alliances to allow the war to escalate. the only way a new world war could start is if north korea allied with china.
(sighs) This is coming from someone who supposedly has an I.Q of 204. If you know how WWI and WWII started, then there is a possibility of the same thing happening all over again. WWars start by a country attacking another country and from there it excalates.Originally posted by: -Sharingan-Kakashi-
world war iii with who? lol i think ill just ignore your posts now
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