Yeah, its like what Assertn said. Also, this is about ninjas, who sort of defy the laws of physics. Physics is pretty much (BUT not completely) not applied to any ninja in naruto's world.
Yeah, its like what Assertn said. Also, this is about ninjas, who sort of defy the laws of physics. Physics is pretty much (BUT not completely) not applied to any ninja in naruto's world.
"You can never know everything, and part of what you know is always wrong. Perhaps even the most important part. A portion of wisdom lies in knowing that. A portion of courage lies in going on anyways."
Asserts got the right idea. Think of the water prison like Space.
Space, for all intents and purposes, has nothing for your movements to interact with causing no interaction of forces for any sort of directional motion.
....Jesus was a Ninja.
Think you guys are dwelling on the physics thing a little too much, especially about Lee being able to withstand more pressure than Neji or Ten Ten. If physics really played such an important part can anyone tell me what might happen if Neji used his Kaiten in the water prison? A super sized rasengan balloon?
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
dont be a fool psyke, that would just spin the water in one direction like naruto in rasengan training, the actual rasengan spins in all direction. lol just making sure people get the facts right [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Yah that's why I used the word balloon, as in the naruto training........ : )
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
my bad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
That's cause we like stupid main charachters that eats a lot [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Originally posted by: Terracosmo
"Even if Neji is cool,there have been millions of mangas with main charachters like Neji genius and everything."
But there're even more manga with stupid main characters of unexpected strength which eats a lot... ;D
The only Naruto charachter i would like to see as a main characther other than Naruto is Rock Lee who isnt the stupid main charachter type but he would be a new kind of main charachter atleast for me and it would be alot funnier for sure [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
we like stupid main characters that eat alot? i dont. naruto is cool when he's serious but not when he acts stupid.
shannaro's scanlation was quite good, cant wait for the next chp. i wanna see how good kakashi has gotten. and is it only me or does kisame seem like 10 times as strong as when they attacked konoha?
Granted Kisame looks really strong now, but back then he didn't really have a chance to show off. He could have thrashed Asuma back then if not for the interferences from Kakashi and Gai. And Kisame does look much much stronger than Zabuza. Anyone remember it was stated they were part of a 7 man team years back? Would be interesting to find out more about this group, though I'm pretty sure Kisame would be the strongest.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
yea the power he got now suits him better. it really shows how strong the akatsuki is to, he fights gai while immobilizing 2 chuunin and a jounin and people thought this guy was just jounin strength. i also want to know about the other 5 of those mist katana shinobi, i mean unless kisame was loads stonger than the rest of them the are bound to show up sometime.
ROFL PWNDOriginally posted by: Shin_Naruto
Originally posted by: Kalean
If Lee can't move in the hydro prison, then it's more than likely that Neji and Tenten (if not Lee too) would be instantly crushed by the sheer pressure of the water. How's that for a physics dilemma?
You know nothing about physics.
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He thinks there is pressure being applied in the Water Prison which is keeping Lee from moving. Since Lee is 'super strong', and unable to move, said pressure must be enormous.
What he doesnt understand is that pressure is applied from every direction evenly and therefore strength isnt a factor. If his physics model were true; deep sea subs that look at the sea shore in several tones of pressure would require HUGE amounts of hydrolic power to move any part of the craft.
First off, the 'physics dilemma' I mentioned was intended to be a humorous comment that was only half logical. I'm fairly certain some people still possess a sense of humor. Secondly, the part of it that was by my way of thinking, logical, had nothing to do with the resiliency of the kids' skin. The idea was that if someone routinely walks around, kicks, flexes, and even hyper extends his legs with multi-ton weights attached, they should at least be able to move their body within the prison. Kakashi was able to do so, and as amazing as he is, we're relatively certain he's not THAT ridiculously strong ;P So there shouldn't be any seriously heavy pressure in the first place. The mention of water pressure was a half-joking explanation as to why Lee couldn't move, because in actuality, being the same technique, there's really no reason he shouldn't be able to. However, in opposition to what I believe Shin_Naruto's statement was saying, evenly applied pressure would still have to have a great force behind it to prevent movement altogether. If you doubt that, you can easily find many examples of aquatic lifeforms or even suit protected (but not necessarily power-assisted) divers that can move in high pressure areas of the ocean. If Shin_Naruto is actually defending the idea that water pressure is the factor that prevents Lee from moving, then he is as incorrect as I was in my jest. Obviously, water pressure is not the reason Lee has suddenly experienced a new side effect of the water prison that Kakashi before him did not, it's shoddy writing ;P
No he couldn't. It was with the help of naruto and sasuke that he got out.Originally posted by: Kalean
Kakashi was able to do so, and as amazing as he is, we're relatively certain he's not THAT ridiculously strong
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Kakashi was able to MOVE inside the water prison, not get himself out of it. There's a big difference between being able to move your body, and being able to escape.Originally posted by: Deblas
No he couldn't. It was with the help of naruto and sasuke that he got out.Originally posted by: Kalean
Kakashi was able to do so, and as amazing as he is, we're relatively certain he's not THAT ridiculously strong
Well Kisame is stronger than what I thought he is to be, but Gai would have to be up there also. Kisame didn't really get a chance to prove himself back in Konoha, but now that he is hear, he is really showing promise.
The genius always gets caught
First Kakashi in the prison, and now it is Neji's turn.
Yeah, it would actually be good to see the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist, did Zabuza say that he was the strongest, I'm not to sure, can't really remember, and I'm too lazy to go look. Can anyone confirm this?
Originally posted by: Kalean
First off, the 'physics dilemma' I mentioned was intended to be a humorous comment that was only half logica
That shit will get you killed around here.
What AssertnFailure said makes sense. If I call someone myopic, in literal terms I'm calling him near-sighted. What I figuratively mean is that he's managed to miss an important detail.
I don't believe that Zabuza ever claimed to be the strongest of the seven swordsman from Mist. Zabuza was a cruel individual, and he thought he was very smart, but he never claimed to be anything beyond jounin in strenght. He even said that Haku could probably beat him.
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Originally posted by: Roko
Yeah, its like what Assertn said.Originally posted by: Shin_Naruto
Asserts got the right idea.well im glad everyone is becoming pro-assertn [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Originally posted by: samsonlonghair
What AssertnFailure said makes sense.
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I think the "Kakashi, you couldn't have..." thing is that Kakashi found the secret room under the floor in that house where the Uchiha secrets were. It sound's reasonable.
It's about time they tore those houses down IMO. Maybe they used the materials to rebuild Konoha after the war.
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