Well, we'll find out sooner or later for sure.
I heard that supposely they edit out the helmet scene in the DVD. Volume 10 is out next week(which I'm looking forward to, finally complete my collection) so I guess I'll find out if that rumor is true or not.
Even if it is true that they edit out the scene in DVD, alot of people will be going WTF? if Neo does turn out to be Mwu.
I am hoping that it is Mwu, but...
Still waiting for someone to confirm that the helmet was actually removed...
I just checked aniDB, and nobody has released a DVD rip yet.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Still waiting for someone to confirm that the helmet was actually removed...
no he might be someone nobody expects
Anime-MX has released a DVD rip. I'm in queue to download it now. I will let you know when I've seen it.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Still waiting for someone to confirm that the helmet was actually removed...
EDIT: Okay, I've seen it now. At least on the DVD source that Anime-MX used the helmet is still in the picture in episode 49. Also it is dual audio so it would be a more recent release of the episode.
EDIT2: I'll do more later, but I just want to add that personally I think that Neo is the exact same as Mia Campbell.
good point on that mia thing. why hasnt anyone thought of that possibility before?
Seeing as Curium has acknowledged that the helmet isn't in, I'd like to hear what all the smartasses who listened to some random rumor about it being edited out have to say now [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Heh, yeah unless Mwu is able to breath in space, or the Blue Cosmos' guys came up with some form of reviving dead people... Mwu is dead.
And Curium your theory about Neo being like Mia Campbell is intresting.
OH well... I"m still hoping it's Mwu because I want Mwu to be back. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Terra I've said before that they can't edit out the helmet scene from the anime series because the dvd is supposed to be unedited. So while I'm a smart ass. The scene where it was removed from the SEED compilitation was still removed under direction from the higher ups. But like has been stated just because there is a helmet or not doesn't mean Mwu is dead. When you accept that possibility perhaps people will give you more credit.
There is more evidence to support that Neo is indeed Mwu over the evidence that he is not. Are you still too pig headed to admit that. Or are you going to continue in fooling yourself.
in my opinion the fact that strike is floating around in peices with the half of the cockpit left is more than enough of evidence for mwu to be dead, its impossilbe to survive that.
Actually it -does- mean that he is dead. You know the whole breathless thing?Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Terra I've said before that they can't edit out the helmet scene from the anime series because the dvd is supposed to be unedited. So while I'm a smart ass. The scene where it was removed from the SEED compilitation was still removed under direction from the higher ups. But like has been stated just because there is a helmet or not doesn't mean Mwu is dead. When you accept that possibility perhaps people will give you more credit.
There is more evidence to support that Neo is indeed Mwu over the evidence that he is not. Are you still too pig headed to admit that. Or are you going to continue in fooling yourself.
Why the hell should I accept the "possibility that he's alive" when he clearly isn't?
I don't care who gives me credit. I have my opinion, you have yours.
And no, there is not more evidence to support that Neo is Mwu. What you call evidence are just random lines that you toss together to form some kind of theory. Ever thought about the fact that there's "more evidence" is because you can't really say anything more to support that Mwu isn't Neo other than a simple "Mwu is dead"? So therefore, "Mwu is dead" beats your senseless random theories to a bloody pulp. And hell will freeze over before -you- have the right to call anyone a pig head (pretty funny insult by the way).
Edit: Out of curiosity, do you also believe that Auel is alive?
First, Blood went into Auels helmet. Second, Abyss blew up. Thrid, the beam javelin would have speared him right through the stomach.
On to the matter of Mwu. Do you even relize what sort of weapon the Lohengrin is? ITS A POSITRON CANNON! THAT MEANS IT FIRES ANTI-PROTONS! MEANING ANTI-MATTER! How the shields deflect that, I don't know. Second, the explosion would kill Mwu, if not, his helmet coming off would mean a very painful death of decompression. I doubt the ArchAngel could retrieve a person within 15 seconds, and then reintroduce atmosphere within 60 seconds. Ever put shaving cream in a vacuum chamber, remove the air, then recompress very quickly? I have. BOOM! It expands rapidly. Certain death, UNLESS the ArchAngel had medical systems equivilant to those on the Enterprise-E from Star Trek.
Don't go after Terra. He made the comment about Auel being alive with sarcasm.Originally posted by: dean10007
First, Blood went into Auels helmet. Second, Abyss blew up. Thrid, the beam javelin would have speared him right through the stomach.
On to the matter of Mwu. Do you even relize what sort of weapon the Lohengrin is? ITS A POSITRON CANNON! THAT MEANS IT FIRES ANTI-PROTONS! MEANING ANTI-MATTER! How the shields deflect that, I don't know. Second, the explosion would kill Mwu, if not, his helmet coming off would mean a very painful death of decompression. I doubt the ArchAngel could retrieve a person within 15 seconds, and then reintroduce atmosphere within 60 seconds. Ever put shaving cream in a vacuum chamber, remove the air, then recompress very quickly? I have. BOOM! It expands rapidly. Certain death, UNLESS the ArchAngel had medical systems equivilant to those on the Enterprise-E from Star Trek.
Positrons are actually antielectrons, not antiprotons. Also, you can survive in vacuum for minutes - it's over for your eyes and ears, but you can survive.Originally posted by: dean10007
First, Blood went into Auels helmet. Second, Abyss blew up. Thrid, the beam javelin would have speared him right through the stomach.
On to the matter of Mwu. Do you even relize what sort of weapon the Lohengrin is? ITS A POSITRON CANNON! THAT MEANS IT FIRES ANTI-PROTONS! MEANING ANTI-MATTER! How the shields deflect that, I don't know. Second, the explosion would kill Mwu, if not, his helmet coming off would mean a very painful death of decompression. I doubt the ArchAngel could retrieve a person within 15 seconds, and then reintroduce atmosphere within 60 seconds. Ever put shaving cream in a vacuum chamber, remove the air, then recompress very quickly? I have. BOOM! It expands rapidly. Certain death, UNLESS the ArchAngel had medical systems equivilant to those on the Enterprise-E from Star Trek.
Anyway, who cares? If it's really him, they will make it that he survived somehow. Just wait.
I don't recall seeing Strike blow up in an explosion. I saw the Strike's Shield blow up. I can go frame by frame. That explosion as such a close proximity thou could do the damage that was done to the Strike. As for the death scenes they have showed the other pilots actually die. For Mwu's "death" scene they didn't show him die. Just some scraps of Strike in pretty good sized chunks. Lets get some screencaps of the strikes torso after the explosion to show the dmg. You dis whatever evidence I've provided Terra but its got the same level of relevance and value as any information you provide to say Mwu is not alive and that Neo is a clone. Or are you going by the theory that Neo is not Mwu nor a clone? That would be a good laugh. I'd have to applaud Bandai for one hell of a red herring. What proof do you have that Mwu really is dead. Besides your speculations what makes your view any better than mine and those of the other people who think Neo is Mwu?
Personally, I'd hate it is Neo was the real Mwu - that would cheapen his death and destroy the SEED franchise for me - and since SEED has done such a good job of appeasing me, I'm going to assume they wouldn't let me down now [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
A clone seems possible, and the most likely - Neo has to appear something like Mwu to get 'that' kind of reaction out of Marius from the intro.
I do, however, propose a new theory - perhaps Neo is... Rau! Or atleast, yet _another_ clone of Mwu's father [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
My main reason for saying that Neo isn't Mwu is actually that I -know- that the guys behind Seed wouldn't give us such a lame plot twist.
I respect them and think much higher of them than that. Thinking about it, making it so that Neo is Mwu would be what a newbie script-writer would do. Get it?
Which is why I think it's silly to think Neo is Mwu, because he's obviously dead, and whoever thinks otherwise is just too stuck-up on trying to find other solutions to see simple truth. I mean, in my opinion, "Mwu blew up and his helmet was out in space" and blah blah blah has a lot more ground to stand on than all those lines that you, Guardian, threw together and called "typical Mwu lines".
I will not applaud Bandai for creating a "red herring" because to me this isn't a mystery, it's just a debate between people who realize that Mwu is dead and people who want him to be alive for whatever reason they can come up with.
Question: When an anime airs in Japan for a projected number of episodes, do they writers finalise the plot all the way till the end of the series, or do they wait and see the viewers reactions and then fine tune to plot according to how receptive the audience were to the aired episodes?
I'm referring to of course non manga turned anime series.
For eg: if the viewers want Mwu back so badly not having him back would lower ratings (just an example so don't quote me), would the producers fine tune the plot from there on to make the show a bigger success?
Of course I know that giving what the viewers want may not make the anime a great one, but what I'm talking about here is ratings and viwership.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
It looks like you were being Sarcastic, but I'm still responding. Personally I'd believe it was Mwu before I would believe it was Rau. As I've said many times I will never believe it is really Mwu. Rau took a Beam Saber to the chest, and then a nuclear powered superweapon in the face at point blank range. I don't believe there is ANY series in ANY catagory in ANY country that has medical tech good enough to save someone from that.Originally posted by: Kovash
Personally, I'd hate it is Neo was the real Mwu - that would cheapen his death and destroy the SEED franchise for me - and since SEED has done such a good job of appeasing me, I'm going to assume they wouldn't let me down now [img][/img].
A clone seems possible, and the most likely - Neo has to appear something like Mwu to get 'that' kind of reaction out of Marius from the intro.
I do, however, propose a new theory - perhaps Neo is... Rau! Or atleast, yet _another_ clone of Mwu's father [img][/img].
Sorry for the double post, but when I try to edit my post I just get an error.
I was just watching through Gundam SEED episode 50 again. Rau came across the wreckage of Strike. He didn't have the reaction that Mwu was around at all.
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