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    i am still majorly confused about the whole thing with Pride, Roy, the doctor, and Kimblee.

    Wrath explicitly referred to the doctor as "materials", and his body was the leftovers of the transmutation that sent Roy to the gate... but... again, I have to think that the assimilated alchemist has to be Kimblee.

    but that still doesnt make any sense! how the fuck does Pride assimilating Kimblee give him the ability to MAKE Roy open the Gate? I thought a highly skilled alchemist had to perform a type of alchemy that went beyond equivalent exchange in order for them to arrive at the Gate? (after all, Marcoh has never been to the Gate, and the dude made Philosopher's Stones). did Pride grab Mustang and have him activate the array that Pride had drawn on the floor? that still doesn't seem to make sense...

    i smell plot hole

    and, yeah, i agree wit Prof Chaos. It felt way too strange that Al's body responded the way it did, as if it knows what is going to happen... and bag said it too, but how could the body know all this? (and what in the world is going on with Al's mind? it seems like there are two now, one with the boy, one with the soul... that cannot be good for when they merge again...)

    also, the shot with Al's body standing in front of the Gate.... I mentioned once in an anime discussion thread about the designs on the Gates. Particularly the scene where Ed meets Al's body. The design on the Gate that Ed has come through (and returns through) has the Kabbalistic Tree of Life on it, and the very prominent bottom part is the creation of God. However, the design on the Gate that Al's body is sitting outside of is quite different. It almost seems to be a reversed image of the Tree.

    page 40 of this chapter, Al's body's final, foreboding words as the Gate closes. I can make out a few words. Leo, Mercurius, and what look like ---gentum, li--, and rubeus?

    What I CAN see is Al's body standing in the divide between the clearly marked Corpus and Spiritus. The positioning screams trouble, accenting the divide between the body and spirit.... certainly not a good omen...

    Ed's tree has Malkuth on the bottom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot

    I cannot find anything that looks like the image on Al's Gate

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    al's door was something from a alchemist (or chemist O.o?) from the 15th century...
    you are talking about ed's and al's door, what about roy's?
    back to the transmutation "roy" performed, all the alchemists need to touch the transmutation circle, and this one had even roy's blood, pride activated it while roy "made" the transmutation. we didnt even got to see what he transmutated...
    by the way there is no way to make perform a transmutation beyond the equivalent trade unless you have a philosopher stone which is raw power, spirits or w/e, that gets used and thus making it somewhat equivalent again.
    human transmutation seems to be the way to open the gate, in the two transmutations we saw there was a "body" container, and the one to open the gate used his own blood to get the body a soul/information as edward said before transmuting his mother.
    then the truth got a piece from each alchemist in equivalent trade for information inside the gate/truth

    on another note. i think most likely that the truth is inside al's body, he is the truth, he knows everything thats going on, and maybe everything thats going to happen?

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