Kimimarus bloodline is awsome! its strong and if he wasnt weak...he coulda kicked ass...
Kimimarus bloodline is awsome! its strong and if he wasnt weak...he coulda kicked ass...
i thought as kakashi explain bakyuugen is a evolve sharigan. btw i like haku's blood line the most.
Ahh, old thread.
And no, Byakugan is not a evolved Sharingan. It is believed to be genetically related to the Sharingan.
i think overall byakugan is stronger than your avg sharigan, but if its magou sharigan, then its a different lv, since it was said hyuuga family is the strongest family of konoha not uchiha
They both have their outstanding abilitys. Byakugan gives more insight than the sharingan does, but can't copy moves.
sharigan cant copy moves..... it jus that their eyes can catch speed really good, sorta like things moving in slow motion when its moving fast, so they can copy the hand seals and sharigan can c the amout of chakara they can use so they activate that much about of chakara too, thats mainly how they copy it... and byakugan has that microscopic eyes thats why they can c the spores threw people skin. and hyuuga users release chakara in there spores so they know where's the movements coming from and then react to it. byakugan has more ability than sharigan, so byakugan is my pick.
No, the sharingan copies moves... like all the jutsus Kakshi uses except Chidori were copied from other people.
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Originally posted by: naruto-ton
sharigan cant copy moves..... it jus that their eyes can catch speed really good, sorta like things moving in slow motion when its moving fast, so they can copy the hand seals and sharigan can c the amout of chakara they can use so they activate that much about of chakara too, thats mainly how they copy it... and byakugan has that microscopic eyes thats why they can c the spores threw people skin. and hyuuga users release chakara in there spores so they know where's the movements coming from and then react to it. byakugan has more ability than sharigan, so byakugan is my pick.
Have you watched Naruto?
Here is the article for the Sharingan on Wikipedia, because I am to lazy to explain it:
The Sharingan (Literally "Copy Wheel Eye") is a special type of pupil that naturally occurs in some members of the Uchiha clan, which allegedly evolved from the Byakugan (See above) and allows the user to do to a number of things. The Sharingan's first and most well known ability is to memorize any technique that it is a witness to. It can memorize ninjutsu (ninja techniques), genjutsu (illusionary techniques), and taijutsu (hand-to-hand techniques) with perfect accuracy and allow the user to use the techniques. Second, it is capable of a unique brand of hypnosis that involves suggesting actions and thoughts to the opponent. Third, it can see through any illusionary techniques. Fourth, it has the ability to predict (and copy) an opponent's movement as well as allowing sight of fast moving objects with great clarity.
The weakness of the Sharingan is that, in some cases, it drains chakra quickly. In order to copy a jutsu, one has to have the physical ability to perform the technique. For example, they have to have the needed amount of chakra, stamina, agility, and/or strength in order to perform technique. In addition to physical skill, the Sharingan cannot copy any other bloodline abilities or summon a creature he has not made a contract with.
The Sharingan does not automatically appear from birth in a user; instead, it will usually appear when the user is in life threatening situation, where the power of the Sharingan will save the user. After this first appearance, the user can then call up the Sharingan any time he or she pleases. The power of the Sharingan is judged through the number of comma-like dots, called tomoe, in the person's eye. It is not unheard of for a Sharingan user to have different amounts of dots in each eye. For example, Sasuke's Sharingan initially had two dots in one eye and one dot in the other. Eventually his Sharingan evolved to two dots in each eye, then three. An "adult" and fully matured Sharingan has three dots in each eye.
The worst possible match-up for a Sharingan user such as Sasuke is a Taijutsu specialist such as Rock Lee. While still being able to read, copy and react to high-level Taijutsu, Sharingan users may lack the strength, agility and stamina to keep up with it. Also, the lack of chakra focusing or hand seals required for Taijutsu gives the Sharingan user much less time to react to their opponent's movements.
Characters who possess the Sharingan include Uchiha Sasuke, Uchiha Itachi, and Hatake Kakashi.
yes i have watched naruto, but im puting sharigan in more detail because copying does not explain good enuff, gotta know the details- and that from watching naruto, as u can c naruto vs sasuke battle, how he was decribing the effects of his sharigan, he c naruto in slow motion coming at him, so he could counter. memory can be one too.(memory of hand seals or movement)
but if u talking about sharigan copying resengan we know that is impossible. or kakashi or sasuke would have copied it or some other user would have coppied it. copying is a too general word. and i dout taijutsu will work on sharigan well, because it read movements so well and being able to dodge them. like wut sasuke did to naruto, (read his movements) kakashi is not even true bloodline i dout he has the true abilities. also as sasuke explain, with sharigan he could conserve chakara not waste them, becuase....he stop using useless movements which equal saving stamina/energy, enery/stamina = chakara converted. another theory why itatchi sharigan is always on.
there's a page about the sharingan in wikipedia?
god, in times like this i wish that freedom of speech wasn't invetnted....
anyway, Naruto-ton is right, the sharingan sees movements in super slow motion and super high defintion, so it allows a smart user (remember, before being the clan of the sharingan, the Uchiha clan is a clan of geniuses) to mimic the movment, be it hand seals (and therefore most ninjutsu) or other stuff (taijutsu), the part about seeing through genjutsu is a bit tricky, but i'm willing to suck it up and say that the ultra sight of the sharingan allows the user to detect the contradicting parts of the genjutsu (the places where the illusion isn't complete) or whatever, i can't reallt explain what happened in the forest of shadows, though, seeing as it was spesically told that the sharingan doesn't see chackra.
and for chackra consumption, it's obvious that the main part of it comes from actaully using the sharingan to look around, as seen by kakashi, who has the sharingan activated all the time, without major chackra drain, but when he starts using it in battle, the chcara consumption goes high up.
as for the so called weakness to taijutsu, it's not as much as a weakness as it is a lack of resistment ability, having the sharingan doesn't make someone's pyshical fighting worse, it's simply that pyshical ability can't be changed so much during a fight (unless you're a sayian), so if the enemy is faster than you, he'll stay faster than you and no matter how good the sharingan is, you won't be able to do zit aganist him.
Itachi's sharingan is by no chance always on, it's like how, lets say, Orochimaru always says 'kukukuku', it's obvious that there are times where he speaks normlly and doesn't neccerally spit out evil ideas, it's just that in order to express how evil he really is, we only see him do so. same with Itachi, Kishimoto wants us to know that Itachi is evil and badass, so he keeps showing us him with the sharingan on, it doesn't mean that Itachi brushes his theeth with it and eats cerieal while seeint the milk currents in the bowl. (though it may be good for brushing one's theeth, see all the flack and scrub it off).
oh, and for the Zabuza fight, i've given up on explainning it, people are too idiotic to figure out on thier own, and won't listen when someone details stuff for them, so i'll act all mysterious and say that Haku's reading of the trick was wrong, as for the rest, think it up yourself.
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Then someone with the Byakugan should be able to copy moves too, since byakugan has better insight than the sharingan.Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
there's a page about the sharingan in wikipedia?
god, in times like this i wish that freedom of speech wasn't invetnted....
anyway, Naruto-ton is right, the sharingan sees movements in super slow motion and super high defintion, so it allows a smart user (remember, before being the clan of the sharingan, the Uchiha clan is a clan of geniuses) to mimic the movment, be it hand seals (and therefore most ninjutsu) or other stuff (taijutsu), the part about seeing through genjutsu is a bit tricky, but i'm willing to suck it up and say that the ultra sight of the sharingan allows the user to detect the contradicting parts of the genjutsu (the places where the illusion isn't complete) or whatever, i can't reallt explain what happened in the forest of shadows, though, seeing as it was spesically told that the sharingan doesn't see chackra.
He didn't see the chakra of the immitations in the Forest of Shadows, he saw that they were replications.
insight doesn't mean it has the ability c things in slow motion, its like a microsopic eyes. doesn't mean he could hit a 100 mile fast ball pitch (an example).
They're two related but completely different eyes
Sharingan - Copy moves, Pre-voyant (see ahead of time), Allows Illusionary moves (Mangekyou), protection from genjutsu
Byakugan - Clairvoyant (Omnivision), Pre-voyant, sees chakra/tenketsu (allows Ju-ken), protection from some genjutsu
Alike but totally different.
Edit::
Edited my stupid fucking grammar...sorry
Would you mind explaining this? It's something I've always been confused about (assuming you're talking about Kakashi and Zabuza's first tussle).Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
oh, and for the Zabuza fight, i've given up on explainning it, people are too idiotic to figure out on thier own, and won't listen when someone details stuff for them, so i'll act all mysterious and say that Haku's reading of the trick was wrong, as for the rest, think it up yourself.
I pretty much agree with the idea that a sharingan has the "Copy" abiltiy only because it can see things in slow motion. It seems it also has the ability to remember them (ie. allows the user to perform them again - automatically perhaps?? I dunno). These two factors would indeed produce the ability to "copy".
Also, when was it said that the sharingan can't see chakra?
and what exactly is "insight" ?? Is it the abilty to read the opponent or just better vision? or both?
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god', it's probably useless to try explainning, since you need to use BRAINS and LOGIC to get it, but i'll try anyway.
the first thing we need to establish is that Kakashi can NOT see the future or read minds, if you don't know that by now, you can stop reading.
however, Kakashi did manage to do a water jutsu before Zabuza completed the seals. so the obvious explenation is that Kakashi has already known the jutsu, right?
following that logic, we can assume that he knows other water jutsus already, such as the water clone and the dragon blast. so basically, he didn't copy anything from Zabuza, at least not anything important.
so the first part of the battle is fairly uncomplicated, Kakashi sets up the mood for Zabuza to be safe in his assumeption that he can use his movement once before they'd be countered.
now, they go into the circular motion, Kakashi uses his Sharingan to copy Zabuza's movements and then uses his superior speed to make it seem that they move at the same pace. same thing with completing zabuza's sentences.
now, Kakashi creates an illusion of Zabuza, which is performind some seal, and thus distrupting Zabuza from completing the justu he was about to make, while Kakashi is left free to blast away Zabuza with a diffrent jutsu.
at least that's how i see it, unless you think that Kakashi is some super psychic witch man who sees the future and controls other peoples minds.
Edit: you're right, I shouldn't have said said all that, it's simply that last time i tried explainning everything, people shouted at me that my explannation is too hard for them to comprehand, and that i'm a big fucking liar. which might be true, depending to who you ask. However, those were the same people who said that Kakashi has copied the Kagebunshin no justu from Naruto and learned how to open the gates from Lee, so that just shows how much you can trust them...
as for why you shouldn't believe in what was said in the anime, if you remember, at the end of that fight, Kakashi creates a large amount of clones to scare the enemies off, right? and he calls them "shadow clones", isn't that correct? however, basing ourselves on the fact that Kakashi has said himself that he was out of chackra and that he can try and bluff them a bit, it's easy to conclude that the jutsu used was normal clonning right?
so there you have it, a proof that the manga sometimes plays with your head, i guess Kishimoto had the entire 'beanth the underground' crap going through his head in that time, now he's got the 'my power level is higher than yours' crap.
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WTF is w/that brains and logic crack? That's not what I thought at all... Especially since most of this was explained IN the fuckin' anime.
Don't make the assumption that I'm a brainless narutard. Jerk
In any case, I've always assumed what you described is what happened (that is, the fact that kakashi already knew the water blast jutsu). However, I think he copied the other jutsus on the spot (the water bunshin and the water dragon I mean). In whichever case, the sharingan's power is sported pretty well - which was the purpose of those scenes.
I think the part that actually confused me was when Zabuza saw himself. I've never been sure if that was a jutsu, or if Zabuza was just freaking out 'cause he was scared shitless that kakashi was some sort of psychic. So your explanation for this is just speculation, as we never see kakashi perform any seals for the supposed genjutsu. Also, I think the fact that kakashi could finish zabuza's sentences was a little farfetched. That's all.
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quote- Byakugan - Clairvoyant (Omnivision), Pre-voyant, sees chakra/tenketsu (allows Ju-ken), protection from some genjutsu
prevoyant- byakugan dont really c ahead of time, because unlike sharigan it doesn't c things in slow motion. the reason neji can block attack from behind is because byakugan got a certain radius of sense, i dont know how to explain it, but sorta fly, when u try to attack it, it feels your coming and it flies away.that...and he could release a radius or chakara in his spores so when something is coming from somewhere he could feel it behind...explained in the anime and manga during the neji and spiderman battle(forgot actual name).
Byakugan vs Sharingan who wuld win?
I like Byakugan is better cuz they have 2 learn a special type of taijutsu so it makes them a lot stronger wit their skills and actually have a family run style of fighting so it's cool. While sharingan copies everything and so far 2 my knowing only has 1 family skill that fire ball thing,plus sharingan cant copy taijutsu 2 well so Byakugan wuld win
pressure point fighting vs copying
i think the winner wuld be the 1 wit more experience in battle cuz that culd make the battle go 1 way cuz these bloodline limits are 2 cool[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Dude I could never have bugs inside me... Thats just too creepy.
And Sharingan probably does own Byakugan because of the ability to copy moves, use crazy genjutsu and see almost into the future against an enemy.
Kimimaro's bloodline is probably the ultimate defensive bloodline technique (Gaara's was a summon or some sort of spell, not a bloodline) but offense is where it is at!
I wonder if/when there will be psychic ninjas with In your head bloodline techniques and the ability to move things without actually touching them. That would be my choice for ultimate bloodline
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The seeing into the future thing was a hoax as explained by Zabuza way back in the first arc. And I believe the genjutsu you're refering to is the Mangekyou's Tsukiyomi. Don't think I've seen the rest of the Sharingan users use genjutsu....Originally posted by: masamuneehs
Dude I could never have bugs inside me... Thats just too creepy.
And Sharingan probably does own Byakugan because of the ability to copy moves, use crazy genjutsu and see almost into the future against an enemy.
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