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As of now 7 bombs have been reported to have exploted some if not all in double deck buses... i'll post more after i find out more
Edit: Apparently some bombs were in the subway also
Edit 2: this just came out
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/...london.tube/index.html
Things to take into consideration are, is this the act of terrorist like Osama, or does this have anything to do with them being selected to hold the Olimpics in 2012
there's a G8 summit going on right now... so it could be related to that, too.
Yeah, I had forgotten about that... and when it occured to me I was too lazy to edit my post [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
But yeah, endless possibilities here atm... at least there haven't been many deaths thus far as far as i know, only 2...
2 deaths? My mother just told me the expected death count is currently among 90, then again, I haven't watched the news so I ain't sure. And she's quite a confused person so. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Regardless, this is bad news. If this turns out to be terrorism, we're in for yet another "war against terror" charade.
Damn, if everybody could just shut the fuck up and accept each other... people suck.
i don't think it was osama if he did it there would be more deaths. i personally think it was a protest vs the G8... but we can't know for sure yet...
i also heard that some internet site's claimed that they were responsible.
I havent checked the news in a couple of hours, so i don't know... last time i had checked it was 2 deaths and about 90 or so injured...Quote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
2 deaths? My mother just told me the expected death count is currently among 90, then again, I haven't watched the news so I ain't sure. And she's quite a confused person so. [img][/img]
Regardless, this is bad news. If this turns out to be terrorism, we're in for yet another "war against terror" charade.
Damn, if everybody could just shut the fuck up and accept each other... people suck.
The scary thing about this is that it's obvious the attack was coordinated and well planned. It happend 1 day after London was selected to hold the 2012 olympics, and the message was pretty clear that the terrorists are showing their capabilites to the world. Let's hope that nothing else is gonna happen and especially during world events such as the olympics.
All these terrorists should be killed without trial. What they are doing now is unforgivable and should not be tolerated.....
I hope nobody ties this into London being selected for the 2012 Olympics considering it's 7 years away. Nobody really gives a shit about the Olympics. Nobody is gonna spend enough time and effort to bomb an athletic event even if it's world-wide.
*shrugs*
I work in the area where the first bomb exploded... this morning I went to work early otherwise if I had gone in at my usual time I would have been caught up in the melee.
I just got back home and to be honest people are walking around as if nothing has happened... only the rail/tube stations are causing a bit of an annoyance but otherwise people are acting normal.
The enire London Underground (subway) system has been shut down for the day, which is a major hassle. Overhead trains are running again from certain places atleast.
From a personal angle, it doesn't actually feel like a major attack since I havn't seen any injured people in person, and almost all of the places they are showing I visit often anyway so it doesn't kinda fit the bill mentally as a major international incident.
Though it kinda makes you think that after this attack Blair & Bush would find it even harder to sell the strategy of warmongering to people, since even by their standards its not working.
in the news it says it doesnt ahve anything to do with the 2012 Olympics it was to do with the G8 meeting at Gleneagles, it also says that al-queda admitted to doing this
The terrorist are not targeting the Olympics..... To me it just feels like they are demonstrating what they are capable of. The world makes a decison on a certain venue and it gets bombed the next day. They are only using the Olympics and London to make a statement, and one that is shocking countries all over and making them implement new measures to counter terrorism.Quote:
Originally posted by: Mut@chi
I hope nobody ties this into London being selected for the 2012 Olympics considering it's 7 years away. Nobody really gives a shit about the Olympics. Nobody is gonna spend enough time and effort to bomb an athletic event even if it's world-wide.
*shrugs*
Which is precisely why I made my post...Quote:
Originally posted by: Psyke
The terrorist are not targeting the Olympics..... To me it just feels like they are demonstrating what they are capable of. The world makes a decison on a certain venue and it gets bombed the next day. They are only using the Olympics and London to make a statement, and one that is shocking countries all over and making them implement new measures to counter terrorism.
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Anyway, according to cnn.com, at least 33 are dead and 'scores' are injured.
On the contrary.....this would encourage even more affirmitive action against terrorism.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Though it kinda makes you think that after this attack Blair & Bush would find it even harder to sell the strategy of warmongering to people, since even by their standards its not working.
What? you think people are going to say "Stop trying to stop the terrorists, let them roam free and hope we dont get on their bad side"?
hmm...? are you sure they're all related? and also what is G8?
It is not verified yet so we cant determine if it was really them.Quote:
Originally posted on: CNN website
A group, the "Secret Organization group of al Qaeda Organization in Europe," claimed responsibility in a Web site posting. <u>The authenticity of the claim could not immediately be verified.</u>
No, but I would say look beyond your narrow view of the West being the good guys and that they have the right to kill however many damn civillians they want. When some civillians die like in Afghanistan the other day (17 died while the Americans were looking for their SOLDIERS... VALID MILITARY TARGETS) it was reported like, "oh yeah, a few more Afghans died and I scratched my arse this morning too". When westerners die oh nooo, its something different then isn't?Quote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
On the contrary.....this would encourage even more affirmitive action against terrorism.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Though it kinda makes you think that after this attack Blair & Bush would find it even harder to sell the strategy of warmongering to people, since even by their standards its not working.
What? you think people are going to say "Stop trying to stop the terrorists, let them roam free and hope we dont get on their bad side"?
It's by people with views like yours that add legitimacy to the idea that countries like the UK and US are free to go screw over whoever the hell they want. You can't have a War without being hit yourself.. its that simple and if you can't take it DON'T GO TO WAR.
Listen, I was in the area myself today. If I was doing my usual routine I would have been caught up too. I KNOW that the people killed today are not involved in the fighting and should not have been killed. My point is however people need to grow the hell up and realise that this ain't no Hollywood movie where some dumbass hero with rippling muscles and weird gadgets and gizmos is gonna save the day in some far of land and he is the good guy and then everyone lives happily ever after.
And if you are gonna reply by saying "but they started it with 9/11", then don't bother.
Of course that isn't how they're reported, American media is biased to America and that has nothing to do with anything.
But yeah I suppose instead of "screwing over" terrorists we should all sit still and get killed by those fucking cowards.
What a brilliant idea.
Lol cowards lets see now...
The world's richest, most technologically advanced country with the world's most advanced military VS a bunch of gurellia's who fight in sandals.
Sure is a great level playing field to be calling others cowards.
Edit: Yea Cold War, case and point. When faced by more less equal opposition, both the US and Soviet/Russian armies were too cowardly to fight each other and so got others to do their dirty work... for thesemselves they came up with pretty little terms like Mutally Assured Destruction to big themselves up.
OF COURSE we're gonna cry about American soldiers dying. Their lives are clearly more of a priority to us than the lives of Afghans. However, I'm not saying that American lives are more significant or precious than other races' lives, it's just that at times of war and fight for terrorism, the security and safety of our nation and its people are our #1 priority since casualties are inevitable. It really isn't fair but can't really do much when we resort to using weapons.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
No, but I would say look beyond your narrow view of the West being the good guys and that they have the right to kill however many damn civillians they want. When some civillians die like in Afghanistan the other day (17 died while the Americans were looking for their SOLDIERS... VALID MILITARY TARGETS) it was reported like, "oh yeah, a few more Afghans died and I scratched my arse this morning too". When westerners die oh nooo, its something different then isn't?
It's by people with views like yours that add legitimacy to the idea that countries like the UK and US are free to go screw over whoever the hell they want. You can't have a War without being hit yourself.. its that simple and if you can't take it DON'T GO TO WAR.
Listen, I was in the area myself today. If I was doing my usual routine I would have been caught up too. I KNOW that the people killed today are not involved in the fighting and should not have been killed. My point is however people need to grow the hell up and realise that this ain't no Hollywood movie where some dumbass hero with rippling muscles and weird gadgets and gizmos is gonna save the day in some far of land and he is the good guy and then everyone lives happily ever after.
And if you are gonna reply by saying "but they started it with 9/11", then don't bother.
There isn't ANY type of reasonable or logical solution when it comes to terrorism. If they are going to slam planes into building and set off seven bombs all over a city in the first place, what's to say that they'll keep any compromises or peace agreements we make with them? When our lives our threatened by psychopaths, humans only know one thing: kill them before they kill us. It's sad but oh well.
I'm trying to keep this discussion civil, but this is just retarded. Going into guerilla warfare on another country's home turf is pretty much suicide. Ever heard of Vietnam? They're not just PEOPLE IN SANDALS. You've got such a ignorant idea on people that fight there. It's not like they are using swords and catapults to fight us. They have guns just like us, they have bombs just like us. Their army isn't incompetent. Sure, we could always out nuke any country but who the fuck wants to start pushing the red button to win wars when the consequence and casualty is multiplied by a million-fold?Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Lol cowards lets see now...
The world's richest, most technologically advanced country with the world's most advanced military VS a bunch of gurellia's who fight in sandals.
Sure is a great level playing field to be calling others cowards.
If US and the Soviet Union actually decided to have a full on war, we would've nuked ourselves to death. The US and Soviet Union weren't 'cowards'. We were afraid of it going into a nuclear war. Stop using the 'war is bad!' ideal to come up with your ultra-bias, ignorant posts.Quote:
Edit: Yea Cold War, case and point. When faced by more less equal opposition, both the US and Soviet/Russian armies were too cowardly to fight each other and so got others to do their dirty work... for thesemselves they came up with pretty little terms like Mutally Assured Destruction to big themselves up.