Which character that we've seen do you think possesses the most potential and why? (didn't see a similar topic so made this)
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Which character that we've seen do you think possesses the most potential and why? (didn't see a similar topic so made this)
i vote for naruto too.. not only he has power.. but comes up with good stragedty as well... ^_^ just need to mature... which he eventually will
it's not really fair to put naruto in here since he is the main character. so besides him, it's obviously sasuke.
hmm you should put the reasons why
I think some of the other character have more potential than Sasuke...I think he would have more potential if he gets over his anger
I vote Neji.
Hard to decide
Naruto has potential, thats a given but the Amount of charka that he possess is a huge amount. Even if he had all that power, he does not really have alot of skills beside physical strenght and endurance. A HUGE FORCE that if naruto could actually learn skills and master them like he did with Kage Bushin No Jutsu, and Taiju Bushin No Jutsu (or is it Taiju Kage Bushin No Jutsu). He would be a force unstoppable. Thats even if he could control and contain the powers of kyuubi like he did against Haku.
Sasuke, skills, but is limited by anger, and abilitys. His Uchiha Bloodline makes him deadly to every last ounce of Charka. The abilitys of the sharingan also add to his already deadly arsenal. Although we do not know the full limitations of a UCHIHA, and its powers, we cannot infer that this clan is weak. As Itachi said: "I will show you why The Uchiha clan was unreputed and feared" Or something like that. His ability to learn his ability of taijutsu in 1 month? Chidori, and all his abilitys. Sasuke should not be underated.
Yeah I think Neji has a lot of potential as well, I mean he was able to learn 2 of the Hyuuga clan's most strongest moves that even the main branch members have hard time with (so i read) and did that by himself, so he definatly has potential...as for sasuke, yeah he does since he is Uchiha and have Sharigan, but just think he will always be limited with that anger he has..makes him reckless
Aside from the fact that hes dead, I'd say Haku had a mountain of potential.
He was brillient from an analytical viewpoint (strategy to counter Sharingan - note that his strategy for Zabuza was better than Gai's method of defeating the Sharingan - both strategies avoid the effects of being drawn into the power of the sharingan, however Haku's strategy also prevented the sharingan providing insight to Kakashi, allowing Zabuza to fight kakashi on 'equal footing' ie with the same advantages and disadvantages).
He created (as far as we know) 2 of his own jutsu of his advanced bloodline. He cannot have learnt them from someone else - there was noone to learn from. To this point, the only characters of around that age that have created their own jutsu is Neji (and likely Kabuto, but im going to ignore him for now). Point is, he's brillient with his jutsu as well as his analystical thinking.
Zabuza passed everythign he knew down to Haku, hence we can safely say that Haku is also very proficient at silent killing, in addition to what he learnt as an ANBU of hidden mist (we can conclude he was ANBU because that is how Kakashi explained he knew about acupuncture points). Knowing everything Zabuza knew at that age alone should be a big indication of his potential - if he can learn that much in the time it took for Naruto and co to become.... well... weak as Jiriaya puts it, surely he could develop far more in the future.
He instinctively knows the meaning of 'true strength' - one of the core themes when it comes to the character qualities that have been raised in Naruto - both the Hokage and Kakashi have mentioned it. Naruto barely grasps it, Sasuke is aware of it but apparently doesnt really embrase it, Neji is more concerned about fate and free will, Sakura is arguably clueless in this area, but Haku knows it from the depths of his heart.
On other characters:
Sasuke also has potential, but he needs to get over his blind furious hatred, or at least to turn it into a cold fury. Blind hatred results in rash descisions. Cold fury results in cold clinical calculations and strong determination...... but kinda turns the character into an evil kind of guy. However from a technical and efficent viewpoint, Cold fury may be the most effective state of mind.
Neji also has potential. Prior to the Chuunin exam, I'd say he was somewhere between Blind hatred and Cold fury towards the Head branch, but after it, he is presumeably over his anger towards the branch family (more or less). He is a genius (in the conventional sense) that surpasses sasuke, but if you match him up in terms of development to Haku, he loses out by a fair margin.
Edit: As an aside, I'd also like to point out that Haku is approximately the same age as the other Genin characters, and hence he had to have made it into the Hidden Mist ANBU some time before. This is approximately the at or even slightly before the same age that Itachi made it into Konoha's ANBU before making it to ANBU captain/commander (depending on translation). That should give you an idea of matching up his potential with someone else.
Additionally, if we are comparing characters at approximately the same age, it would probably be unfair to exclude Kabuto - I mean, in approximately that time (plus a year or 2 more) hes managed to become about as skilled as Kakashi (according to Orochimaru).
Final note: If Naruto magically acquired a set of working brains, then yes he would have potential. However as it is, the only reason he is going to get anywhere is because he is the main character, and hence he will eventually become rediculously powerful only by virtue of that fact (that he is the man character). Call me biased, but I believe the only way to know where youre going, is to have the brains to know how how you get there. If you dont, then you'll never get there. Naruto can say he's going to become the next Hokage all he wants, but unless his brains start working, hes not going anywhere except by virtue of his main character status.
everyone has character flaws, but that's not what this thread is about. naruto is the obvious choice, but that's pretty cheap since he has inhuman power. i'd say sasuke.
A lot of characters have potential...and yeah if Haku wasn't dead I'm sure he would be so much stronger now, he was quite strong while he was alive and seem to be able to learn alot on top of his bloodline ability
V_V who in the earth voted for sakura? show yourself....
Enigmatic_Paragon saying that Haku had to be ANBU is an assumption, you can learn about the bodys lay out in places other than ANBU training. Kakshi belived he was ANBU but that doesn't make it a fact. Also Zabuza closed his eyes in the mist as well giving him a disadvantage still because when they got close they could see each other, or rather Kakashi could see him making it worse close range than Gai's (if your using hand to hand only then the ability to see his feet from far away vs not seeing anything wouldn't make a huge difference either.)
Naruto has working brains, you just don't seem to get it(ironic eh?) he may be loud and noisy some times but there is a reason he is the #! ninja at suprising people.
how sad... V_V how come nobody is voting for gaara and shika
yea, really? who voted for sakura???!!!
i voted for naruto. just look at him before and look at him now. it's a big gap.
I didn't vote for sakura
mystery
yes indeed... who did!!! show yourself... come forth and stop hiding
Naruto. He has the nine tails which seems to be the most powerful demon chakra wise, bar none (as far as we know), and he's learning certain techniques which are forcing him to improve his basics, including chakra control, chakra output, ect. His ninjutsu is going to be no joke, I have confidence that he'll be awesome at stealth things cuz he is a trickster. I'm just hoping his damn taijutsu doesn't stay so ugly. There's no doubt in my mind that naruto is going to learn a substantial number of techniques before the show ends, many of which most people would not be able to master, making naruto above average even without the demon chakra. However, as was stated before...he is the main character...
Putting Naruto isn't fair though. Heh.
Naruto has unlimited chakra, he can practically learn everything.
Sasuke probably is probably second to him. He has the sharingan, to be able to copy everything, and use them at his own disposal. Thats why Oro wants him.
I don't think Neji has much potential. He'll probably be the best hand to hand fighter amongst them all. But that'll be it. Just a tough soldier for the Konoha ninja's.
i voted for gaara, look at it this way from all the people his own age it took massive amounts of effort to get past his defence, if his defence improves with age and he actually TRAINS with some other stuff then he would be the master, he wouldnt even have to turn in to that daft arse racoon either. also if he became more tacticaly minded (wich we can only assume he would be after losing his first fight ever) then he could be much more devastating perhaps when someone hits the sand he could grap them straight away, not giveing them a chance in hell.
Sakura...... o_O
I like shikamaru =D
The actual person with *most* potential if Naruto because he is the main character. LOL. I agree it's unfair to add him to the poll.
Haku would be next except he is dead so he can't improve. I voted for Gaara. In the recent chapters we all saw how much he can improve ater just a short period of time and of course he has huge amounts of chakra becuase of Shukaku.
gaara never improved tho, he was at the same level apart form when he released shukaku
Well, if we define potential as the difference between a current state and how far they can go (the actual gap) then I would have to suggest Sakura. Now stay with me:
Sakura (Now)............................................. ..................................(Greatness)
Big gap - Large potential.
Naruto (Now)............................................. .............(Greatness)
Smaller Gap - Less potential.
This is just an example and just an opinion.
Thing is, how do u know how far they can go?Quote:
Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
Well, if we define potential as the difference between a current state and how far they can go (the actual gap) then I would have to suggest Sakura. Now stay with me:
Sakura (Now)............................................. ..................................(Greatness)
Big gap - Large potential.
Naruto (Now)............................................. .............(Greatness)
Smaller Gap - Less potential.
This is just an example and just an opinion.
Actually Goingin, I don't know how far anyone can go. I don't think anyone does.
Makes ur statement a bit useless doesnt it? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
Actually Goingin, I don't know how far anyone can go. I don't think anyone does.
Not intented as flaming or such
Could be we can expect some great stuff from Sakura in the future, but its a bit too early to say anything about it now.
She just aint getting along with the rest if u look at her capabilities, same thing goes for Ino
My original statement quotes "This is just an example and just an opinion". But truthfully, that is how potential is defined. No flame intended, no flame taken. I won't taken anything (or almost anything) personally.
Jesper>>>
Point one: True, we dont know for certain that Haku is an ANBU member. However we have comments pointing towards that direction on which basis I make such an assuption. This is an anime - when trying to interpret something, the most likely explaination is the one we are positioned to view, and I'd say its quite clear how we are positioned to see Haku - that is as a former Mist ANBU.Quote:
Enigmatic_Paragon saying that Haku had to be ANBU is an assumption, you can learn about the bodys lay out in places other than ANBU training. Kakshi belived he was ANBU but that doesn't make it a fact. Also Zabuza closed his eyes in the mist as well giving him a disadvantage still because when they got close they could see each other, or rather Kakashi could see him making it worse close range than Gai's (if your using hand to hand only then the ability to see his feet from far away vs not seeing anything wouldn't make a huge difference either.)
Point 2: Yes, Zabuza closed his eyes hence putting him at an apparent disadvantage. The flip side is that the zero visibility mist essentially meant Kakashi may as well have had his eyes closed too. As long as they both lose out on a particular aspect, it is valid to say that they are fighting "On equal footing".
What? You mean like he surprised Zabuza and Haku? Or you mean like he completely failed to discern the meaning of the first exam, nor figure out a way to cheat? Or perhaps youre talking about the time he had the brillient idea of opening up the earth scroll in the 2nd exam without considering that the examiners arnt so stupid as to faili to have measures regarding those who break rules?Quote:
Naruto has working brains, you just don't seem to get it(ironic eh?) he may be loud and noisy some times but there is a reason he is the #! ninja at suprising people.
The fact is, we are positioned to see Naruto as not all that bright. If youve managed to see this some other way youve evidently been watching a different Naruto - I mean its all nice and good to take a resistant reading - You'll probably get some marks in an essay if you can properly justify your position - of something but while were discussing something like this, its a safe bet to go with what the author positions us to see.
Oh yeah, and surprising people has absolutely nothing to do with how smart/intelligent someone is. Unless of course you happen to believe that trying to attack Ebisu in desperation is somehow an indication of astute intelligence as opposed to the unpredictable and impulsive charactersitics of Naruto, in which case I'd be rather worried about your good judgement.
v_v I think everyone on that list has more potential than Sakura
I think Konoha (or whatever, the little grandson of the 3rd) has the most potential ^_^
Yeah , I think Konohamaru has more potential than Sakura, at least, plus he has a lot of motivation..but dunno about having the most potential
I voted Naruto, he easily has the most potential because of kyubi, plus he is getting trained by Jiraiya. next I think its hard picking between Neji and Sasuke, but I think Sasuke has more potential because after seeing Itachi, imo, the Sharingan is superior to the Byakugan.
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Originally posted by: Shadow-wolf
Well, if we define potential as the difference between a current state and how far they can go (the actual gap) then I would have to suggest Sakura. Now stay with me:
Sakura (Now)............................................. ..................................(Greatness)
Big gap - Large potential.
Naruto (Now)............................................. .............(Greatness)
Smaller Gap - Less potential.
This is just an example and just an opinion.
From this post, I tend to get the feeling that at the end of the day
Sakura's skill = Naruto Skill (?).
naruto. why? cause he is the main character. he will always come out of a fight as the winner.
I'd have to say Neji, b/c down the road in his life how unstoppalbe would he be if he actually closed that blind spot in his Byakugan, and with his moves already what do you think would happen to his opponent if he starts producing his own moves, ones that dont require punches to close the chakra holes, I would hate to go up against a person like that
Uchiha Itachi [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] if you see what he already has accomplished for someone who is now only around 18 years old *scary*
You are only harping on the bad points, how about when he thought up using shadow replication and shadow windmill(i think it was..) on Zabuza, or using Kiba's extreme ability to smell against him, for using shadow replication to fake that the rest of his teammates were in the mess with him against those ninjas in the 2nd part of the chuunin exam that had tons of replications(when they were almost to the tower), or tricking Neji in their fight in the stadium ect... So he doesn't do that great on written test(neither does Shikamaru hohoho!) that doens't classify his completly, you have to look at the rest of him.Quote:
Originally posted by: Enigmatic_Paragon
What? You mean like he surprised Zabuza and Haku? Or you mean like he completely failed to discern the meaning of the first exam, nor figure out a way to cheat? Or perhaps youre talking about the time he had the brillient idea of opening up the earth scroll in the 2nd exam without considering that the examiners arnt so stupid as to faili to have measures regarding those who break rules?
The fact is, we are positioned to see Naruto as not all that bright. If youve managed to see this some other way youve evidently been watching a different Naruto - I mean its all nice and good to take a resistant reading - You'll probably get some marks in an essay if you can properly justify your position - of something but while were discussing something like this, its a safe bet to go with what the author positions us to see.
Oh yeah, and surprising people has absolutely nothing to do with how smart/intelligent someone is. Unless of course you happen to believe that trying to attack Ebisu in desperation is somehow an indication of astute intelligence as opposed to the unpredictable and impulsive charactersitics of Naruto, in which case I'd be rather worried about your good judgement.
Also, what would you have done in the 2nd exam if you thought that everyone else had reached home base already and you were missing a heaven scroll and knowing that one was destroyed so you could be the odd one out and not have a chance at getting it. They had considered that there was fail safes and they were going about the opening slow and safely but they belived they had no other choice if they wanted to pass.
From what I saw with Kakshi vs Zabuza the second time he could see at least a couple of feet giving him an advantage when they get into hand to hand combat so I don't think they were on equal ground. Granted this was better than Gai's method but I don't think it would be good enough.
I still don't see why you would belive that we are supposed to assume that Haku was ANBU, Kabuto stole a mask from an ANBU, why couldn't Haku? Zabuza could have tought him what we are supposed to apperantly assume he learned while being an ANBU. I personaly get the impression he stayed with Zabuza the vast majority of his time after meeting him and Zabuza is exiled soooo.
naruto's potential is that it is possible for him to obtain a power equal the demon fox, since the demon fox lives inside him
i dont care how much potential you say other character's have....the only other person who could POSSIBLY have as much potential as naruto is gaara (but i'd assume kyubi was stronger than shukaku)
excluding Naruto out of the picture, yeah, I'd say Gaara would probably be around the next since he also has a demon, and besides, he was quite strong with just mostly standing around and letting sand do everything, imagine how strong he would be if he actually trained ..taijutsu and learned some more nin/gen jutsu
naruto. he's improving a lot i think
Naruto is improving a lot, I think he definatly has what it takes to become Hokage *in the future* and as long as he matures and gets stronger. And, seemed Sandaime was good with people and was able to change them and understand them (like how they showed him and Iruka) and Naruto already can do that (Neji, Gaara...)
You know I was thinking that too. I don't think it's more than Naruto's but I definatly think he has a lot too..cause, yeah he's only 17 and he's that strong and well, 17 is still kind of young so he's still growingQuote:
Originally posted by: Uchiha-Itachi
Uchiha Itachi [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] if you see what he already has accomplished for someone who is now only around 18 years old *scary*
@_@ yes.. i mean.. i was quite shocked.. that a 17 year old could rival the lengedary sannins... V_V then when he's like in mid twenties... @_@ who's gonna stop him?
naruto of course hha jk
This is a no brainer. It is Naruto of course. He called upon the master frog on his first "real" summon!
looks like nobody is voting for shika... i mean.. he's very smart.. if he just stop being lazy.. he have great potential too i think
hm. yeah shikamaru has potential as well. I mean, he is a genious, just imagine what kind of shinobi he would be if he actually put in effort to train and learn more moves and become stronger =x
Jesper>>>
This in part reinforces what I said about him getting anywhere by virtue of his main character status. If we were to examine it closely (and we arnt supposed to since this IS an anime for enjoyment as opposed to a literary text) we can find a distinct break in continuity between his actions outside the critical moment of a fight, and those during it. To put it simply, there is a very significant difference in the competence of Naruto which is arguably put in because Naruto as the main character must be able to resolve situations - wether it is a social situation (like how he responds to Konohamaru when they first meet) or a fighting situation.Quote:
You are only harping on the bad points, how about when he thought up using shadow replication and shadow windmill(i think it was..) on Zabuza, or using Kiba's extreme ability to smell against him, for using shadow replication to fake that the rest of his teammates were in the mess with him against those ninjas in the 2nd part of the chuunin exam that had tons of replications(when they were almost to the tower), or tricking Neji in their fight in the stadium ect...
Of course, the plan to free Kakashi from Zabuza was no doubt a good plan. A rare moment of insight indeed. Why do we not see corresponding intelligence from Naruto elsewhere in the anime? Dont get me wrong - Im not saying that Naruto is mentally challenged. Just that is below average in intelligence.
You gave Kiba's smell as an example. There were 2 instances that his sense of smell was used against him. The first, to get rid of Akamaru, and that is attrubited by the Hokage as an idea from his background as a prankster. Good idea, but given that particular background (as prankster), someone else in his situation would likely have come up with a similar plan. The fart was pure luck. I wont even bother debating you there if you attempt to challenge this fact.
The shadow replications before the end of the second exam - same explaination as your point about freeing Kakashi from Zabuza. Same with the Neji act.
Of course, you might argue this - you then I'll ask you to explain just *why* is it than in almost every fight Naruto enters - especially when he is fighting with his teammates against an enemy - he invariably announces he is going to do something only to have someone else tell him to "stop" because it is a stupid idea?
He does this during the first encounter with Zabuza, and during the 2nd encounter with Zabuza. During the exam, Sasuke relies on Naruto's below average intelligence to distinguish him from enemies (he cant remember password). During the encounter with Orichimaru, he fails to grasp the situation and blindly attacks.
At the end of the 2nd exam, Iruka uses Naruto as an example of someone who is lacking 'mind'.
During the 3rd exam prelims, he rushes in to fight Neji and is stopped by Lee.
During the 3rd exam, he rushes in for hand to hand combat and ONLY THEN realises that hand to hand is bad! And that after seeing Neji's fighting style and training for a month to defeat it!
Attack on Konoha: During the case after Sasuke - Naruto's idea is to go through a fight between 2 unknown opponents. The smart idea which Sakura and Pakkun have to explain to him is to go around.
Fight with Gaara: Threatening to beat Gaara up if he hurt Sasuke or Sakura while he could easily kill Sakura (Isnt the last thing you want to do in that situation provoke it?).
Encounter with Itachi: Im going to beat them up even though theyre after me and can Kill me without any problems!
Are you seeing a pattern? You should be. The above list covers just about EVERY fight that has taken place to date. The comment by Iruka should have been the equivalent of a sign with flashing lights and complementary bells and whistles.
No matter how you argue, it does not change reality. It is a FACT that Naruto isnt smart. Its his character weakness for goodness sake! If Kishimoto had wanted to think Naruto was smart like you seem to proclaim, he wouldnt have Naruto doing/suggesting something stupid at some point during ***EVERY*** fight! Its not like its an isolated incident you know!
If you choose to be blinded by some fanatical devotion to a particular, thats fine. But really - it isnt all that hard to open your eyes and see what should be blindingly obvious. Noone is denying that Naruto has come up with some smart ideas but as they say, 1 dog does not a pack make. (IE, it takes more than a smart idea to be called smart).
Heheh. His lack of intelligence sometimes makes him unpredictable....not unpredictable in his fighting, but rather unpredictable that after he gets beaten the shit outta him, he suddenly stands up and does something miraculous.
Well, but don't forget that all his battle's fought, he's lousy crap fighting is to make the show more dramatic as well. (Like vs. Neji, Zabuza, Haku, Gaara).
Instead of just labeling him 'stupid', I would consider him temperamental. Temparemental people are mostly doofus'es, but can sometimes show instances of brilliance.
But yeah, he's leaning more towards 'Stupid'.
Thats my 2 cent.
Naruto, even without the youma Kyubi, has the most potential. We see this in the first episode where he protects Iruka; the same massive chakra and the same mass shadow clone jutsu in the fight with Gara. Plus, in the fight with Gara he also summons Gamabunta with only his own chakra.
Naruto is battlesmart, he does great innovation in battles, and he also inspires people. Now, off battle Naruto is still a brat, but battlesmart is truly smart, once he comes of age he will show his brains; though I think he will end up a pervert just like Sarutobi and Jiraya.
As Naruto is mighty even without the youma chakra, I think it's logical if he ends up battling the Kyubi in the end.
Actually the Kyuubi's chakra is slowly leaking into his chakra. Although blue might be 'his' chakra, it's also because of the Kyuubi effecting it making it more. Well, thats what most people say. We all would love to think that Naruto did it all by himself. But we can't be certain about it though.
uhhh... you're wrong dude... i think this forum already had a long discussion on this. in the first episode, naruto uses kyubi chakra to summon all those clones. but against gaara he used all of his own chakra to do that mass kage bunshin. which is why he needed kyubi chakra to summon gamabunta. besides, kyubi chakra has been mixing with naruto's for a long time now, so it's not even really naruto's own chakra anymore.Quote:
Originally posted by: oniorochi
Naruto, even without the youma Kyubi, has the most potential. We see this in the first episode where he protects Iruka; the same massive chakra and the same mass shadow clone jutsu in the fight with Gara. Plus, in the fight with Gara he also summons Gamabunta with only his own chakra.
Naruto is battlesmart, he does great innovation in battles, and he also inspires people. Now, off battle Naruto is still a brat, but battlesmart is truly smart, once he comes of age he will show his brains; though I think he will end up a pervert just like Sarutobi and Jiraya.
As Naruto is mighty even without the youma chakra, I think it's logical if he ends up battling the Kyubi in the end.
this is what naruto says after he summoned his mass clones. notice how sand is surrounding him.
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~s_kim/images/frame1.gif
this is right before naruto summons gamabunta. notice his change in physical appearance.
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~s_kim/images/frame2.gif
Remember, Naruto is only about 13 years old. 13-year olds aren't know for their good judgment.
I say that once Naruto gets older he'll show better judgment.
haku is dead. you cant have ANY potential of your dead.
yeah he is, but can look at it hypothetically...besides, when he was alive, he did have a lot of potential
@_@ seems like naruto has a lot of his own chakra if he was able to make that many kagebushin with his own chakra.. i thought it was kyubi's
well actually he didnt have much potential at all, because he was going to die. he was a t his maximum possible because he was going to die ten eps after we met him!
i don't follow your logic chambers.. what r u saying?
exactly. Naruto reminds me of vash in that he acts stupid alot but when it comes down to it he pulls something off.Quote:
Originally posted by: oniorochi
Naruto, even without the youma Kyubi, has the most potential. We see this in the first episode where he protects Iruka; the same massive chakra and the same mass shadow clone jutsu in the fight with Gara. Plus, in the fight with Gara he also summons Gamabunta with only his own chakra.
Naruto is battlesmart, he does great innovation in battles, and he also inspires people. Now, off battle Naruto is still a brat, but battlesmart is truly smart, once he comes of age he will show his brains; though I think he will end up a pervert just like Sarutobi and Jiraya.
As Naruto is mighty even without the youma chakra, I think it's logical if he ends up battling the Kyubi in the end.
Disclaimer:I was agreeing with him about battlesmarts not him summonging the frog boss with only his own chakara(which didn't happen).
yes... naruto definitely does... he can surprise ppl... i think he is way to underestimated by a lot of ppl (his opponents)
iam saying miaka that knowing that hakus life would end limits hit potential. if you throw in things that could have happend or would have happend or that did happen and maybe shouldnt have then konohahmaru has most potential as he will learn oro's extended life technique AND kleep his arms. he will rule the world.
okie...
i still don't follow your logic.. and if you wanna put examples.. put better one and haku is different.. Konohamaru and girl like sakura we can see already that they need a lot to grow.. (konohamaru is young.. and we haven't seen him do any justsu or anything...
haku.. he can do jutsu with one hand.. and the mirror stuff.. which is hard for even kakashi to break.. and we haven't seen all that he can do... so.. its' a different game
well...actuall...Konohamaru does have Sexy no Jutsu [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] , but he does need to grow a lot, and I do agree that Haku is different, while he was alive he did have a lot of potential v_v sucks that he died.
hmm.. i forgot about thyat.... he can beat hokage with that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] hmm.. so he does know a powerful jutsu [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
as long as it's not those messed up ones he tried to do using Sexy no Jutsu..then it isen't so strong... hmm..wonder what would happen if Konohamaru did a sucessfull Sexy no Jutsu on Jiraiya
lol.. nah.. jiraiya is too perverted for that to work... remember.. naruto did use it on him.. and he didn't fly away.. but had nosebleed
i think neji has a lot of potential. just get ride of his cocky attitude towards a lot of things...like under estimating Naruto and i think he can become a really strong character in the series
well, i'm sure with how Naruto beat him in the chuunin shiken that he won't underestimate him anymore..(least shouldn't). hopefully the next time we see neji he's matured over that stuff with the help of naruto during their match..probably did though
for the last time, naruto did not summon gamabunta with his own chakra during the battle with gaara.
i don't think anybody said anythign about that after it was told...
naruto is becoming stronger kind of fast
because he has potential.. i guess
Neiji did not underestimate Naruto. He reacted perfectly to everything Naruto's shown. He didn't mess up till the end, and that was more of over estimating himself than it was underestimating Naruto. I don't think anyone in their right mind would underestimate Naruto after that showing.
Response to below: No. When naruto was doing nothing but kage bunshins, Neiji beat him effortlessly. When Naruto pulled out the demon chakra, Neiji had to restrain from peeing his pants, and pulled out everything he had. At the end he failed to have his byakugan active. I guess you could call that underestimating Naruto, but after what took place, it's just a slight underestimation (even if it cost him the match). Neiji reacted almost perfectly to everything naruto did. He just got beat.
i think neji did underestimated him pretty much. no?
i think he did underestimate naruto a lot, i mean he calling someone a 'dropout' kind of says it.
he did call naruto a dropout.. and kept saying it's fate that you will lose to me... i don't think he even thought naruto is gonna be a challenge to him
Alright, but, remember how at some point he said "you can't be hokage like that" ? Then, when Naruto was charging at him with the demon chakra, he was repeating to himself what he had said? I interpret that as him realizing that Naruto isn't what he thought, and possibly a future hokage candidate. Dropout boy, I don't know what to think of that term, because he called Naruto a dropout even after all they both got slammed into the ground. I refuse to think that Neiji is stupid enough to think that Naruto is nothing after all the fireworks. Naruto even called himself a dropout after winning. So I think the term refers to his past performace, and not what he'd shown in the fight. Just so I'm clear about it, I think Neiji's view of Naruto evolved as the fight went on. Everytime Naruto gave Neiji a reason to take him more seriously, Neiji took him more seriously. There wasn't a single time when that wasn't the case in the entire fight. That's why I don't think Neiji underestimated Naruto.
well.. he began to take naruto seriously when naruto was using Kyubi chakra.. which is not surprising.. i mean kyubi's chakra is enormous... so of course he's gonna take him seriously then... besides naruto was supposed to be not be able to use his chakra.. but he did.. anybody would take him seriuosly then...
When I say he did only use his own chakra it's because he does in the anime, the eyes do not change in the anime during any of those events I mentioned, they might in the manga but I don't know that because I don't like reading mangas.
It's illogical to think that he used youma chakra to summon Gamabunta, if he did, then why would he need to ask Kyubi to lend him some chakra right before the headbutt of Gara? He would have plenty left.
Second, the reason I argue this is because it would be perfecly resonable that Naruto doesn't know his limit, and true strength come from protecting others, and the events was to show this; therefor, he should have summoned Gamabunta with his own chakra, in the anime atleast, to shouw that he has massive potential even without the Kyubi. Also, assuming that the 4th is his father, it would fit perfectly with the entire story.
well, i do have to agree that they are showing that true strength comes from protecting others
To Miaka: Well, that's my point. During the fight, Neiji's view of Naruto changed. When Naruto wasn't doing anything that threatened Neiji (kagebunshins with nothing else but sloppy taijutsu), Neiji considered him weak, and not a threat. That's not an underestimation. That estimation was right on the nose. When he pulled out the demon chakra, Neiji immediately realized he had become a threat. Another estimation right on the nose. The only place he failed was at the end. He was beat and worn out, and thought Naruto was too worn out to continue fighting. That's the closest thing to an underestimation that happened that fight and it cost him the match. But I don't even consider that an underestimation because it seemed to me like it resulted from him being tired, and being fooled by the body. He got fooled.
To oniorochi: You're not making any sense. No one saw what chakra he used to summon Gamabunta because he was covered in sand. You said "It's illogical to think that he used youma chakra to summon Gamabunta, if he did, then why would he need to ask Kyubi to lend him some chakra right before the headbutt of Gara? He would have plenty left." I would think that if he summoned gamabunta with the red chakra, he would have none left...
"Also, when he asked the kyubi for chakra to head butt gaara, he was asking for "just a little bit". Why? because, he had already received a bunch ealier. When? When he summoned Gamabunta. Here's a hint. The title of that episode was "exceeding the limit." Also, at that point in the anime, there was no indication that he had enough regular chakra to summon Gamabunta with it. I honestly don't see why this is still an issue.
my point is that anybody would began to take naruto seriously.. when he uses Kyubi chakra .... so that really doesn't count... neji failed to see the potential in naruto.. and called him a dropout... and was pretty much saying once a dropout is always a droupout
Alright, I'll just disagree with you and leave it at that, but I do see what you're saying.
Uchiha Barles, my point was, that because he still had to protect his team he could inch out even more of his own chakra to summon Gamabunta, even after he thought he was all out. The sequence where he call upon the Kyubi chakra would be pointless if he called upon it previously; from bith an artistic and storyline perspective.
I'm not arguing that you're wrong, I'm just saying that that is my interpretation of the events.
I'm not sure I understand but...ok...
your interpretation is incorrect. up until now, naruto, when not in a dire situation, has only been able to summon a tiny frog or tadpole with his own chakra. the moment he was in trouble(ie. falling into that chasm) he was able to summon gamabunta. the day he fought gaara, he had already had a rough battle with neji, and got slammed around a bit by gaara. he had just got done making what? 1000 clones of himself to fight gaara? then all of a sudden, as soon as he's about to get destroyed by gaara's sand coffin or whatever, suddenly gamabunta emerges. he did not use his own chakra for that summoning. i think you guys are forgetting that he doesn't -need- to ask kyuubi for chakra. kyuubi will provide that to him in any dangerous situation just so that he also may stay alive.
In the Neji fight, he underestimated Naruto in the begining of it, practicly everyone in that stadium did. True he adjusted but none the less at the begining(and all time previous to this fight) he knew Naruto was a drop out and he thought Drop outs were incapable of becoming something great.
Edit: err, it was early and mis-read "... used youma chakra to summon ..." I guess.
And where on earth did I claim that?
I said it's illogical to have a display of Naruto asking the Kyubi to lend him some chakra if the youma gave him some just moments before. It's like saying to someone, "this is a herring" without having one, and then you have the person wait for the actual moment you really catch the herring. It's simply not a good order.
Now, Jessper, go chop down the mightiest tree in the forest... with a herring. Ni! Ni! Ni!
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i think sakura has the most potential, simply because she is one of the least developed characters. she obviously has a great deal of talent, because she is able to more or less hold her own using the basic techniques she learned in the academy. i know alot of you guys dont like sakura for whatever reason, but i dont think shes any worse than any of the other genin. if she had someone to teach her (tsunade maybe?), she would be awesome... she just looks sucky because naruto and sasuke already have a ton of sweet techniques etc. haha, anyways, i cant really develop this post too much more, because i have homework to do.
read my post on pg 3 on resemblence.. V_V i do not wanna have to constantly repeat myself... V_V... jeez... if you wanna prove it.. better come up with a pg of list...
Uh, i seriously doubt Sakura has the most potential, reguarless if she is the least developed. She is the least developed because she chooses to be and she is just not special at all. And Yes, she is worse then a number of the other genin, she is worse than naruto, sasuke, gaara, neji, hinata, rock lee, temari etc. There are many teachers and higher up shinobi that she could learn from but she just dosent' want to, all she has to do is ask, sure some people would help, and basic techniques are basic, whooppe, and besides, she couldn't even block a kunai, the baisic of basics...
im already so tired of this sakura has most potential thing.....................she's not and i hope she'll never
in chapter 237 of the manga, sakura learns this new powerful kinjutsu (forbidden jutsu)... it's called hagane no renkinjutsu. so i wouldn't call her worthless or anything.
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lol...kinjutsu... xD
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