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What is a massacre? When someone kills you so quickly and efficiently that noone even NOTICES the fight.
Massacres so far:
Kazekage's defeat.
The Uchiha clan's defeat.
Seriously, how can the Uchiha clan be so powerful that they couldn't even get ONE runner out to warn the rest of the village? And how come the fight was so fast and "unnoticible" that no one else in the village noticed?
what Zabuza(sp?) did in the mist villages during the chounin exam...
does that count as a massacre?
not everyone in the clan was a ninja, and even if they were, the sharingan does not appear in all uchiha members.
i'm guessing the fight was unnoticed by the rest of konoha because it was towards the end of the day, the lights were off, itachi is a total badass anbu member, and we don't know the details of the entire slaughter. for all we know, it might not even have been his entire doing.
Massacre (noun) - The act or an instance of killing a large number of humans indiscriminately and cruelly.
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i know your all wondering WTF was that.
I do.
i dont, i know what spam is when i see it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I wonder why itachi and sasukes parents were so weak, i thought his dad was suppose to be hardout yet all itachi did was one slice chop dead fuck-banged to the ground blood and guts everywhere sasuke wahhh wahhh dont kill me itachi u fuking little pussy ur not my brother...ahem..sorry
I know that compared to the Hyuuga clan the Uchiha looked week. I mean Itachi took them all out, so they where that weak. Hell I think if someone tried to do that in the Hyuuga clan they would be out of luck. All them are pretty bad ass. I just can't see him killing the whole village and not a person or a group of people who know everything about the sharingon couldn't put up more of a fight against him.
that's to represent how much of a badass itachi is.Quote:
Originally posted by: LostAngel
I know that compared to the Hyuuga clan the Uchiha looked week. I mean Itachi took them all out, so they where that weak. Hell I think if someone tried to do that in the Hyuuga clan they would be out of luck. All them are pretty bad ass. I just can't see him killing the whole village and not a person or a group of people who know everything about the sharingon couldn't put up more of a fight against him.
About the massacre and the village- I think we will find out later in the story that there was much more going on that night than we know now. Either Itachi was just a psycho out to test himself (to see whether or not he could kill everyone, not to see if he was the strongest, imho), or there was something wrong with clan that only Itachi could see or predict. and he acted to stop them.
Just my speculations though.
BTW: Did anyone else not think that the only reason Sasuke survived was because he was the only one who asked for his life? He might have been the only one to beg for his life. That, and his hesitaion before opening the door to the room where his parents were killed (when he heard movements before, which I think was meant to imply that they were still alive just before he barged in) are the real reasons why Sasuke is such a dick now- he hates himslef for his cowardice and has never forgiven himself.
Yes... Sasuke hates himself for that exact reason. He wishes he was strong enough to defend his people. Now he wishes he was strong enough to avenge his people.
Actaully that was during the GENIN exam... and he wasn't even in the school, he just wanted to be a ninja, so he came and killed all the ones that have been training half their lives.Quote:
Originally posted by: L8r
what Zabuza(sp?) did in the mist villages during the chounin exam...
does that count as a massacre?
All the Ninja's on operation front line during the Konaha Crush were Massacred. I guess Kabuto taking out the Anbu that were guarding Sauske counts also.
thats not a massacre. a massacre involves large numbers of kills. it gets to a point where killing is no longer murdering but a statistic, thats a massacre, like itachi massacred his clan. zabuza massacred his whole year i think.
good thing chambers can read... I said it 2 posts up... it wasn't even his year tho... he just showed up to kill people.
so you did.
is it possible that for itachi to obtain the mangekyou sharingan, that he had to slay his entire clan, sortof a blood ritual to obtain absolute power... although this would be hard to proove if sasuke ever obtained mastery of the sharingan
its possible, but highley doubtfull. i think it would have been stated that to gain it he needed ti kill people opr his clan or whatever. as people such as kakashi havent said anything abotu this despite knwoing of the techniques its highly doubtfull.
The Uchiha members were just a bunch of weaklings. This was some of the weakest sorry ass people i've ever seen. Natural selection, i guess. Only the strong Uchiha should remain. Itachi+Sasuke.
Massacre is a lesser version of genocide. Its not directed at one race or ethnicity in particular but its killing a lot of people with little or no effort.
Its like some ninja going crazy and killing a lot of babies. They'd call it a massacre. Hehe I can see the headlines on that.
Ninja Massacres Thousands of Babies in Berserk Rage
Pictures on page 3
effort isnt a factor when using the word massacre and neither is genocide.
massacre is not an attempt to wipe out a certain kind of people or amount. massacre simply means a lot.
i see wher eyou are coming from but they are only related by the fact that they are both about killing (often) a lot of people.
This should clear it up.
Main Entry: 1mas·sa·cre
Pronunciation: 'ma-si-k&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French
1 : the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty
2 : a cruel or wanton murder
3 : a wholesale slaughter of animals
4 : an act of complete destruction <the author's massacre of traditional federalist presuppositions -- R. G. McCloskey>
Taken from Websters.
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Helpless seems to say little or no effort to me. Also my persnal opinion of when itachi wanted to know what he was capable of is that he wanted to know if he could be a horrible monster and kill all those he loved.
yes like i said, it has very little to do with the word genocide. and efforless and helpless are two diffrent things also. for example you could have great rouble cutting the head off of a helpless dog.
I doubt the pronounciation is quite correct[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
actually i think it is you know, i think its a french word?
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thats not a massacre. a massacre involves large numbers of kills. it gets to a point where killing is no longer murdering but a statistic, thats a massacre, like itachi massacred his clan. zabuza massacred his whole year i think.
It doesnt necessarily have to involve really large numbers like you think chambers. The boston massacre that helped kick off the american revolutionary war only killed 5 people. Yet it was considered a massacre mostly because they were innocent people that had nothing to do with the inherent situation. So Kabuto killing the anbu can be considered a massacre.
massacre has slightly different meanings based on the situation
if soccer team A beat soccer team B by a score of 4-0, that can be considered a massacre
it basically means you kicked someone or another groups arse badly.
I bet Itachi just wanted to see if he was capable (from a moral perspective) of killing all his own people when he was on his way out of konoha. It obviously gave him a badass reputation and that might have been part of what he was going for. I think in Japanese culture there's a lot of emphasis on the "village/group" working together and that the people put the better of their peoples ahead of themselves - unlike americans [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] So, him killing his clan is even more horrific in Japanese culture. Maybe? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img])
massacre is killing a lot of ppl, not 1 peson outtawack311. maybe the boston massacre wasnt aptly named.