you best not be dissin the cowboy bebop or trigun dubs.....i prefer watchin those over the subbed, actually
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you best not be dissin the cowboy bebop or trigun dubs.....i prefer watchin those over the subbed, actually
just watched the dub its so horrible that i almost died. but acutally the mizuki voice is not that bad altho everything else sucks. even their prounonciation(spelled it right) sucks.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (r3n @ Jan 27 2004, 11:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ive seen the film before subbed, and i loved it. watched it again dubbed and it annoyed me so much everytime they talked. the american acting is jst so crap and out of place. and seeing as the voices arent even similar to the original japanese actors its annoying. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Perhaps a clarification would be helpful.
You are familiar with the difference between Japanese and Western feature animation techniques, perhaps?
The Japanese language structure allows the animation studio to first produce the cels of the show and time them to an arbitrary script; the seiyuu time their voices to match that script.
Western features typically run in reverse order, first recording the audio track (some technical phonic issues come into play as to why they do this, primarily deals with accents and such), then sending that to the animation studio, where the cels are crafted to fit with that timing.
When a Japanese Animation is imported, that sort of cel-crafting is simply not in the budget -- so the script is altered, and the voice actors are told to attempt to fit their lines to the visuals. This is really quite difficult, and only a very few people are truly good at it (the ever-famous Wendee Lee and David Lucas come to mind).
Despite this, there are some dubs I enjoy. CB, of course, but also some portions of Hellsing, and Read or Die (look for the Day The Earth Stood Still reference!).
[ And just as a precautionary note: none of my comments come even near to addressing fan-dubs. I just don't think they should be done at all. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif ]
(>_< )( >_<) i expect the naruto dub to suck.
Naruto in English?!?
-shudders-
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hopefully it won't be as bad as that niruto parody.
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if you guys are dissing american professional dubbing...
your just losers http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (xTrunkZx @ Jan 27 2004, 03:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> if you guys are dissing american professional dubbing...
your just losers http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
If you can call it professional. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
lol, Im Canadian, so I hear American dubing and Canadian, and ill have to say, they both suck http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
ok....
have they ever thought about what they are doing? they should've never thought of the idea in the first place.
THEY SUCK BALLSSSSS!!!!!!!!
I think you mean fan DUBBED .. not subbed
I saw the link and said...no way I'm downloading that crap.
in my experience there's only one Anime where I prefer the dubbed version over the subbed, and that's Cowboy Bebop, the voice acting is well done, and the englishes voices just seem to fit. There are other animes out there where the dub is okay, such as spirited away, but in general it seems a rule that Anime is better when subbed. I think it's just a cultural thing, for some reason Bebop just seems to fit in English, but something like Naruto would just feel weird in anything other then Japanese, especially since they're surrounded by Japanese culture in the anime. If fans want to try and dub Naruto, whatever, it'll be fun for them and give us a good laugh, but I doubt even "professional" voice actors could do a decent dub of Naruto. It's like in Trigun how they pronounce Vash's name as if it rhymed with Bash instead of Wash, that just pissed me off, it's like calling a Jalapeno a JahLapeeno. Anyhoo, that's my 3.5 cents *end transmission*
awwww come on guys, wheres your sense of adventure? you gotta go for the gusto! i know that its gonna suck real bad, but hey, i need a good laugh so im gonna check it out.
I still stick by my opinion that DBZ was a quality dub. The music, voices, etc., I prefer them all over their Japanese counterparts.
jst watched dubbed version of ninja scroll, wasnt as bad i previously remembered, and yeah cowboy bebop seems to fit with english voices, partly cos the cowboy bebop doesnt resemble japan or portray japanese culture nearly as much as naruto does.
lol, guess i might be one of a few ppl that didnt mind watching that.. actually, if they change the voice of naruto and the way iruka sensai says naruto, AND if they start dubbing the latest eps, i would watch it for sure (im not saying that im preffering this over the subbed... i believe subbed is always better)
That is the funniest/worst thing I have ever seen.
Naruto's gonna sound hella white http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif
Naruto
It can only get worse. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
I watched it this morning, and then I killed myself.
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif anyone have a link for the dubbed epsiode? m curious now....
animemaster just posted it
heres the link anyways
its the link to the vid, so right click and save as if you want to save to a specific folder
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif
thanks for the link......but im not sure if I should be thanking you.....
that was horrid.
ok at first minute this was called naruto [Dubbed], then changed to naruto [FanDubbed], and now its finally back to naruto [Dubbed], well for the last time change it back to FANDUB cuz thas what this is..a fan dub, and a very exaggerated cliche one at that...its so stereotypically bad that it deserves to have been realized in the 80s or something..why do these white kids always come up with smart ideas like dubbing foreign delights.
I WILL NEVER EVER WATCH ANIME IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE THAN JAPANESE !
(or korean or whatever's the original language)
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif OMG..... that actually hurt.
i just finished watching GITS:SAC last night (subbed), then i watched GITS the movie straight after (dubbed) and i have to say american dubbing ruins japanese anime so much i had to turn it off before id even finished watching it. the shit voices jst got to me.
this was the most horrendous thing in the world almost craped my pants it wass sooo bad
After previewing it for 5seconds, I DELETED IT.
where's the link ... put it back up http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif
Someone pm me the link?
Fan subbin= not cool.
Wow, that sucked big time. Really did.
Well, actully, I didn't find Sakura and Ino that vexing. The voice they got for Sakura actually fit the "I'm a cute girl!" act, and Ino... well, just sounded normal.
But whats with the 3rd Hokage? "There wasss a Fox, this Fox had Nine Tailsss, each ssswing of itsss tail...", and so on.
Iruka sucked, too. Why does he keep pronunciating "Narruto"? Sasuke's one line sounded all wrong, too....
But worse of all was Naruto. It was terrible. Simply, simply terrible. In Japanese, he sounds like a boy... an hyperactive, terribly loud boy.
Here, he sounds like an hyperactive whiny girl. I know its traditional to use girls to voice young boys, but that doesn't mean they have to sound girly.
If Naruto is ever licensed and therefore dubbed, I hope it wont sound this bad.
WOW... I just watched that. Thats the worst piece of trash ever. I fire anyone who was helping make that fecal milkshake. Naruto sounded like the biggest fag. The voices are all wrong. You cant dub Naruto...
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CmDr_RavEn @ Jan 27 2004, 05:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I still stick by my opinion that DBZ was a quality dub. The music, voices, etc., I prefer them all over their Japanese counterparts. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I agree, DBZ was a well done dubb.
im downloading it right now. i want to hear the voices of the fandubbers and then hunt them down and kill them http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif no seriously this is not a good thing somebody need to stop them!
UBER GAYNESS!!
That definitely was one of the worst dubs I've ever heard, although I admire people willing to put that much time into a great series.
I disagree with some of you here who think that english dubbing anime is always a bad idea. Sometimes I prefer not to read the subtitles if the dub is good enough. Also, the majority of my friends (not as much into anime as I) prefer the dubs. I think the dubs help open up a lot more people to anime.
A different clip. not the same dub
Watch that clip. The horror of dubs/live action
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (r3n @ Jan 27 2004, 07:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i just finished watching GITS:SAC last night (subbed), then i watched GITS the movie straight after (dubbed) and i have to say american dubbing ruins japanese anime so much i had to turn it off before id even finished watching it. the shit voices jst got to me. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ghost in the Shell is not the best movie to judge your opinions of English voice actors on. The dialogue was dry, forced, and gratuitous.
Of course, if you were to go by sheer volume of dubs, over 75% of them could probably be lumped in this category.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Iznogoud @ Jan 27 2004, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I WILL NEVER EVER WATCH ANIME IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE THAN JAPANESE !
(or korean or whatever's the original language) </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
agreed, unless they have good voices for the chars then i will watch for example berserk had good voice actors and its the oly anime ive seen in english that is good.
DUBBED? ahh... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif
I hate even the word dub!
My opinion is, if a movie/anime or whatever is dubbed it's ruined. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arctyc @ Jan 27 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (r3n @ Jan 27 2004, 07:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i just finished watching GITS:SAC last night (subbed), then i watched GITS the movie straight after (dubbed) and i have to say american dubbing ruins japanese anime so much i had to turn it off before id even finished watching it. the shit voices jst got to me. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Ghost in the Shell is not the best movie to judge your opinions of English voice actors on. The dialogue was dry, forced, and gratuitous.
Of course, if you were to go by sheer volume of dubs, over 75% of them could probably be lumped in this category. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
ive seen the film before subbed, and i loved it. watched it again dubbed and it annoyed me so much everytime they talked. the american acting is jst so crap and out of place. and seeing as the voices arent even similar to the original japanese actors its annoying.
Oh my god, not again. I have seen guite many dubbed animes and all of those sucked... I'm also one of those who wants to see the animes with the original language (so in this case it would be japan).
i saw a fandub from another group of people a long time ago. it was 5 minutes of the first ep, but alteast they did it fairly good. this one sucks. it's not even worth laughing about:S.
in regards to that whole pokemon song mov, uh... wow, just.... wow, that is some seriously scary stuff... like... wow
I agree EXTREMELY. i cringe at the thought of Fan Dubs. i mean, waiting thru and suffering thru PROFESSIONAL voice actors is bad enuf... i'll give a firm GET LOST to AMATEURS any day.
whoever made up this concept anyways????
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gaara @ Jan 27 2004, 07:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> its so stereotypically bad that it deserves to have been realized in the 80s or something..why do these white kids always come up with smart ideas like dubbing foreign delights. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
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Dubbing is just wrong.
<span style='color:purple'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Times'>I don't even want to see any anime in DUBBED. Makes me sick to hear that word or see the torrent. Once i first saw it I knew in my heart that DUBBED was trouble. If it's not Japanese then you better go away. Right now I feel like throwin up just talking about it. American versions sux ass if there are not any good voices behide the charaters. They have to be just like Dragonball Z but if not kiss my japanese/american ass. (If you are wondering My parents are japanese but was born in the US)</span></span></span>
<span style='color:purple'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Times'>Whoa boy that Pokemon mov. was funny and retarded thing I ever saw. It's made me laugh so hard on the way he was showing some emotion while signin the song. His face was serious and funny looking. Jumpin on things and his eyes were looking in all directions like he was on meds. ahaha don't do that again</span></span></span>
<span style='color:purple'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Times'>Whoa boy that Pokemon mov. was funnyest and retarded thing I ever saw. It's made me laugh so hard on the way he was showing some emotion while singin the song. His face was so damn serious that it was funny just looking at him. Jumpin on things and his eyes were looking in all directions like he was on meds. ahaha don't do that again</span></span></span>
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! I don't think I've ever laughed so hard in my life...
The Naruto dub was pretty bad, but I mean they were just fans. Gotta give them props for trying. And also for making the single funniest thing in the world....
...until that title was quickly snatched away by that pokemon video. OMG I love you animemaster. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif
So bad... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif sooo bad.... why?? bad... very bad... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
XXXXXXX#1: yeah, it's like a car accident...
XXXXXXX#2: try like the planet blowing up and a few survivers being stranded in a space shuttle running out of air
there are some dubs that have been quite good - Evangelion in my opinion did an excellent job of dubbing - not only grammar and time/motion management of speaking wise but also just the voice-acting in general
there are a lot of factors in dubbing that have a tendency of going wrong - but you also need to consider this.
everything we are used to we tend to not want to change - while yes some dubbing is just horribly bad - passing judgements on others is not the greatest thing to do
in general i would have to agree taht dubbing can be a bit of a pain - but when you are accustomed to looking at the bottom of thep icture it can be interesting to see what things in the background you might miss - unless you are mad obsessed and watch naruto 30 times a day and frame by frame you aren't going to catch absolutely everything (im not saying thats a bad thing im just saying most people dont)
eeeerrrr. if they dub it then the anime won't have that Japan made feeling, and the characters say what technique they are going to use so when Naruto says kage bunshin, it's going to say Art of the Dopplegangers!!!!! Now that's just lame http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em.../mf_jumpon.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em.../mf_jumpon.gif
WoW TRIPLE POSTS!!!!!!!! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anbu-Aone @ Jan 28 2004, 01:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <span style='color:purple'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Times'>I don't even want to see any anime in DUBBED. Makes me sick to hear that word or see the torrent. Once i first saw it I knew in my heart that DUBBED was trouble. If it's not Japanese then you better go away. Right now I feel like throwin up just talking about it. American versions sux ass if there are not any good voices behide the charaters. They have to be just like Dragonball Z but if not kiss my japanese/american ass. (If you are wondering My parents are japanese but was born in the US)</span></span></span> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
true dat, totally agree. american dubbing shouldnt go near anime!! never!!!!! they just want money by ripping us off. 20+ dollars for a dvd with only 3 episodes?! hell no!! they know we like it so they had to jack it up. hate those guys. AMERICAN DUBBING SUX!! SUBTITLES FOR LYFE!
i've never liked professional dubs...god knows what i'll do when i watch fandubs. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...aughbounce.gifhttp://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...aughbounce.gifhttp://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...aughbounce.gif
subbed is only the SECOND best way to watch anime...
the best way is to LEARN JAPANESE.
Unlike most of the people, I didnt delete the dubbed Naruto after I had watched the first minutes of it... I just shut it and kept it in case I need good laughs one day.
It really sucked. I know they are just fans trying their best but really, if this is the best they can do, why to they torment their fellow fans with horrible dubs?
I downloaded the fandub version about few hours ago.
I saw the first minuets then I deleted it.
I never liked dubbed stuff even if it's pros that do it. but fans, jesus!
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arctyc @ Jan 29 2004, 12:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Art of the Dopplegangers</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That's an intriguingly clever localization. Where'd you hear that? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Kage Bunshin is referred to as Art of the Doppelganger in the US version of Naruto Manga.
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u know wut i have to c this dubbed versoin of naruto can some post a link so i can dled it and check it out i know its going to be bad but i just want to know how the voices sound like i mean some animes really have crappy ass voices dubbing over them but i can only name 2 that the voices were perferct.
1 cowboy bebop, the voices fit perceftll with the char personality and there were no crappy voices dubbing over them
2 would have to be berserk
oh my god! That pokemon stuff was just......so terribly wrong! I cant stand it! MUST HEAR ........JAPANESE! CANT LISSEN TO BLOODY.....ENGLISH!!
ya, someone repost the link to this crappy dub....i wanna c....err, hear, or whatever.
shall we get the japanese voice actors to learn english and have them dub for us?
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That's an intriguingly clever localization. Where'd you hear that?
they really suck the voice of naruto too serious and when he laugh he give me a chill the same thing go to all the character