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Well it would be cool to see Sasuke use Gaara's jutsus but there's no way he can ever learn how to use them unless he get's possesed by Gaaras spirit thingy and learn how to use his own "kyubi" like power or something. So you can see Kyubi and Shukaku as a bloodline ability.
neji let me down, big time. i didnt like the the talking though, talking alone takes up around 10 mins. overall, naruto got lucky.
There is one thing I don't understand... right after Naruto said to Neji that when he becomes Hokage he would change the Hyuuga for him, and the blast happened due to them colliding.... two figures were shown diving in to the smoke from the blast. What the heck was that? I mean it couldn't have been Naruto and Neji, because the figures went IN to the smoke, not out of it. When the smoke cleared I was expecting Gai and Kakashi to be standing there over their respective pupils.
62 was the (or one of the best) best fights and most satisfying episodes in the series in my books so far. We finally get to see part of Naruto's powers, and it's probably one of the most important episodes in the series, because this is when he makes his first impression on others that he's no longer a "dropout" and he's finally going to be acknowledged by everyone and everyone will know about him now.
I dont' think Neji let us down, he fought admirably against Naruto even when Naruto was obviously so much stronger. And he actually found a way to beat Naruto's Kyubi powered attack with his "whirl". It's the first time we've seen Naruto with Kyubi powers overwhelmed by another Genin. Oro is of course an exception.
Finally, an episode that really definitely deserves two thumbs up for completeness.
Dope episode. Not too much talking. I'm glad that the match is over.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>There is one thing I don't understand... right after Naruto said to Neji that when he becomes Hokage he would change the Hyuuga for him, and the blast happened due to them colliding.... two figures were shown diving in to the smoke from the blast. What the heck was that? I mean it couldn't have been Naruto and Neji, because the figures went IN to the smoke, not out of it. When the smoke cleared I was expecting Gai and Kakashi to be standing there over their respective pupils. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Hunter has a good point here - I was also confused with the two figures jumping into the smoke. The only explanation I can think of is that the two rebounded from each other then bounced off the wall and... crashed into the ground? No idea.
Can anybody explain this?
I liked the new music and in the beginning when they crossed two of the songs and made 'em sound more acoustic with the flute. The episdoe was one of the best ones I've seen in a while.
Naruto should be pretty recognised now that he beat konoha's strongest genin. People would hav high hopes for him
This episode helped explain all those speculations if naruto could actually bring out kyubi's chakra at will. Well now we kno. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif What im wondering is how come naruto's eyes didnt turn red when he had the red chakra?
Did you guys see gaara's face when he saw naruto withdraw that power? just priceless http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif
hmmm...i thought about that thing with sasuske...i think he will beat gaara without the seal and in the final...he will use it because his goal is to be strong and he sees no other chance to beat "the enemy" http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
How did you like the episode? Question/Comments.
Hmm only one suggestion so far for my question.
As for that one, I think then they would have also shown them flying out of the smoke and/or hitting the walls.
Really baffling http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif .
it was a good episode
has it been 24hrs?? well, i must say that was an impressive finally to a good fight, i'm glad they didn't drag it into another episode, that would cause some rucuss,
glad to see the frog wasn't used.
yes, a great ep where we finally could admire Naruto's powers.. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif
i like it and i thinks it`s better than the match between rock and garra.
i loved this epsiode so much.. it kept me smiling the whole time. i especially like the part when Naruto uses Kyubi's power.. i wished he'd summon the frog tho...i know its his trump card and all but i cant wait to see the Hokages' faces and Sakura's face when he summons it. .... the frog would make Nauto an instant chuunin..(didnt they say the tournament thing was based on points according to their abilities)..sice naruto can use Jounin-Hokage skills (summon giant frog and kage bunshin) he would be an instant Chuunin.
just my thoughts though..... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...s/mf_w00t1.gif correct me if i got anything wrong.... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/mf_gap.gif
becoming a chunin relies mainly as your ability as a team leader and not so much on your ninja skills
I was very disappointed by the outcome of the fight. I was really hoping Neji was going to win, because he is a great fighter with some finesse, while Naruto is a loud-mouth who uses the brute force of the demon fox to overcome opponents.
become chunin by Points abilitys used in the Tournament huh??? that sounds interesting then is not Power that makes you Chunin , so is abilitys ? Thats cool. Also i believe if thats the case then Sasuke will Lose agaisnt Gaara But maybe Sasuke gets 2nd place in the tournament if is about ability, Cause GAARA dont have many ability all he do is SHELL thingy and is like a F**** Tree standing in one position doing nothing, though he have some stupid powers but thats all. Im crazy to see sasuke fight , Sasuke is such a showoff though, he act so important and ignorant ...Stupid sasuke 12yold kiddie acting as a growup Man lol .... short kid showoff of the naruto series bahahahha..
1. more thing, i see some people talking about Naruto looks like Goku and its like dbz, but in a ignorant way as they dont like DBZ so Naruto looks similar in powers and stuff... simply dont like it dont watch it. As for me i love powers and i like dbz and so what... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...s/mf_w00t1.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...s/mf_w00t2.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...lasmawhore.gif
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Gai @ Dec 12 2003, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I was very disappointed by the outcome of the fight. I was really hoping Neji was going to win, because he is a great fighter with some finesse, while Naruto is a loud-mouth who uses the brute force of the demon fox to overcome opponents. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
am with you man, everything u say is true.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SeGee @ Dec 12 2003, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think he will.. we have already seen him and kakashi fight.. he is ready http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif <-- NINJAA </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
hmm, what about that lil flashback of garaa standing behind a rock to hide from Kakashi and Sasuke. Did i miss something after that? what hapend.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DB_Hunter @ Dec 12 2003, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hmm only one suggestion so far for my question.
As for that one, I think then they would have also shown them flying out of the smoke and/or hitting the walls.
Really baffling http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/blink.gif . </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I want to know what was up with that, too. I figured the force of the kyubi chakra against the kaiten just made them crash off of eachother, they bounced off a wall (????) and flew right back into the ground? ok, wait, that makes no sense....anyone know what the shadows were? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/huh.gif
o_O; naruto may not have any "finesse" but atleast he isnt a snob. neji may have had a tough past but that doesnt give him the right to be like he is...heck naruto had a tough life as well maybe even tougher, and he didnt come out a snob believing he is better than others.
*Naruto is now know as Goku* http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
I liked this fight better in the manga
finally we have a winner!!!
very cool that it didn't go another ep and i agree in the fact that im glad he didn't use the frog..
btw, who's up next?
theres no shame in neji losing, he did lose to kyubi chakra afterall. naruto would be dead if it didnt save his ass. what kinda loser always relys on the monster inside him?
Yeah.. Naruto should keep the frog as a big, big, big trump card.. Also cuz the frog uses up alot of Chakra.. I really liked the way Naruto took out Neji, dugging a tunnel underground.. He keeps surprising me.. *Wanders when I'm gonna see those nine-tailed-fox eyes again, they look so cool!! http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif *
http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif poor neji
the little kid must have been scared to death http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/sad.gif
i say, use whatever you have. although it is true that naruto would have been wiped up with his own ass if he didnt have kyuubi chakra, but he does, and it is a part of him so you cant count that as something seperate.
This is a great fight. IM glad its not splitted.
I wished he'd summon the frog, but ur right. Its better to keep that as a surprise.
But what do u thin? will sasuke arrive?
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 12 2003, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> theres no shame in neji losing, he did lose to kyubi chakra afterall. naruto would be dead if it didnt save his ass. what kinda loser always relys on the monster inside him? </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Everyone who has one. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif
I think he will.. we have already seen him and kakashi fight.. he is ready http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif <-- NINJAA
it will really amaze me if naruto can beat another genin ALL BY HIMSELF WITH NO RED CHAKRA. maybe ill respect him a lil more.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Orion Guardian Posted on Dec 12 2003, 08:46 AM
This is a great fight. IM glad its not splitted.
I wished he'd summon the frog, but ur right. Its better to keep that as a surprise.
But what do u thin? will sasuke arrive?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
MAN that EP rocke. I glad he did not summon the frog, but i can't wait to see the look on eveyones face when he does do it. OH man and every one is super shocked when he did use Nine tails Charaka. It was the coolest thing in the world Garaa now knows That he was not lieing about a monster liveing in side him, them all seemed a lil scared of him with all that power. I say Sasuke will arrive i think the bird was there watching for sasuke to tell him when it time to get to the fight so he can get in some more last min trainning. Yeah that ep rocked can't wait for the next one.!!!!!!!!!& #33;!
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did anyone notice the weird opening? it seemed a little more symphonic in the background. compare it to the opening of ep 61, for instance, and tell me im not going crazy! and, btw, i have not read any of the manga (besides what is in shonen jump). but im gonna go out on a limb and say Sasuke will arrive in time because he is the sh*t, and i really wanna see him whip out some pain on Gaara for what he did to Rock Lee
Yeah the opening was like fucked. I liked it better the way it was before. When I saw the raw of the ep I just thought well it's bad sound qual but nooo.
And it was a nice fight indeed, but someone said the fight is probably a little better in the manga. And I dont like aone's dropout thingy looser sound alot better http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif. Naruto will bcome a great hokage when the time comes. I liked the way he said to Neji that when I become Hokage I'll change the Hyuga for you http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif.
Next up is Gaara vs suckske, oo Im soo looking forward to that. Gaara will own Sasuke so bad.
it was a great chapter!! I was waiting fot it all the week. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...mf_dribble.gif http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...mf_dribble.gif
I love how naruto beats him. But i was really surprise that neji keep up with naruto+kyubi, he was really strong.
Yeah Neji isnt exactly an untalented Ninja http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif He will become pretty damn strong later on if the stories about him beeing the Hyuga with the most talent of them all. But he needed to get whopped cause he's to in to his own destiny and bullies ppl http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
you're not crazy, i noticed it too, some violins in the beginning of the song and a new beat when the naruto logo appears is what i noticed, but there are probably more small differences http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif
I really, REALLY enjoyed how Naruto Stuck Neji's "inescapable fate" crap right in his face. Neji is cool and all, but I'm oh so glad Naruto won that battle. Oh, Kurasu, Sasuke is gonna beat Gaara...
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 12 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> it will really amaze me if naruto can beat another genin ALL BY HIMSELF WITH NO RED CHAKRA. maybe ill respect him a lil more. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
*ahem* kiba? what about being clever too? no respect there? so no respect for gaara too? there was a couple of long topics on naruto and kyubi... go read that it will help point more knowledge into u http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...s/rolleyes.gif
Hoho@ ssjtrunks585 http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/smile.gif theres not a chance for that to happen. There are looots of reasons to why Sasuke will loose that fight.
alright alright, you got me one, naruto gets 10 pts, gaara gets points to. ok how about this, beating someone w/o red chakra as of episode 62 and up. http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...ughbounce2.gif
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 12 2003, 04:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Gai @ Dec 12 2003, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I was very disappointed by the outcome of the fight.* I was really hoping Neji was going to win, because he is a great fighter with some finesse, while Naruto is a loud-mouth who uses the brute force of the demon fox to overcome opponents. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
am with you man, everything u say is true. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
haha u guys actually thought neji was gonna win...big shocker huh? http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif show is called naruto for a reason and just because ur favorite neji character got whipped doesnt mean u gotta start bashing. If your gonna bash ..at least have some good stand. saying its all kyubi and naruto is nothing more than a stupid loud mouth..hahah just lame. sounds more like hatred cuz someones fav. character got whipped http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...s/rolleyes.gif
no one knows exactly how good Sasuke has gotten because of his training with Kakashi, besides Garra that is. However, why do you think he is late showing up? He's obviously stil training his Sharingan. Wouldn't it be cool to see Gaara's own techniques being used against him? Sasuke could give Gaara a taste of his own Desert Funeral technique and completely surprise everyone...we just don't know what is going to happen
Semi-Spoiler:
<span style='color:#D6DBE0'>The title of the next episode does start out with "Disqualified," too!</span>
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cecildragon @ Dec 12 2003, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Orion Guardian Posted on Dec 12 2003, 08:46 AM
* This is a great fight. IM glad its not splitted.
I wished he'd summon the frog, but ur right. Its better to keep that as a surprise.
But what do u thin? will sasuke arrive?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
MAN that EP rocke. I glad he did not summon the frog, but i can't wait to see the look on eveyones face when he does do it. OH man and every one is super shocked when he did use Nine tails Charaka. It was the coolest thing in the world Garaa now knows That he was not lieing about a monster liveing in side him, them all seemed a lil scared of him with all that power. I say Sasuke will arrive i think the bird was there watching for sasuke to tell him when it time to get to the fight so he can get in some more last min trainning. Yeah that ep rocked can't wait for the next one.!!!!!!!!!& #33;!
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I think the bird could have been a symbol that maybe Neji no longer believes in that fate crap because Naruto shut him up so he's no longer a "caged bird"? and that's when he lies down and look up to see the bird flies away?
but naruto did win because of kyubi, truth hurts. and yes, i dont like Naruto as a character.
Naruto did win because of kyubi... just like how Neji beats people with byukagen and Sasuke beats people with sharingan. Gimmie a break, the fact is Naruto has kyubi, Neji has Byukagen and Sasuke has Sharingan and saying what would happen without is stupid because they DO have it.
a monster is different from something inherited, and advance bloodlines. kyubi is sealed within naruto, that the key
Eh... I don't see how, they are both powers that a character received at birth. I don't really see how its that different.
Without the kyubi powers Naruto wouldn't have turned out the way he is in the first place anyways. Without it, I still think Naruto is one crazy genin.
And I'm also wondering about those shadows that slipped inside the battle too. Isn't the next match Shikamarus vs Dosu? Wonder who Shikimaru will face now...
Those shadows were just the two characters flying back from the inpact.
the sharingan and the byakugan doesnt Boost your strength, speed, and chakra. unlike naruto's red chakra power.
Naruto doesn't get techniques from kyubi either. Its just a different form of power. Instead of insanely powerful techniques, he has a large chakra pool.
Yes, I really enjoyed this chapter. I think this was one of the greatest battles I've seen. I was a bit surprised when Naruto didn't use the summoning technigue, but maybe it's the best to save it for the later battles. I think that the upcoming match between Sasuke and Gaara will be real exciting too. Of course only if Sasuke will appear soon enough. Can't wait for the next chapter... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...mf_dribble.gif
Sigh, my fingers tremble with the power to spoil, but let not use it...
Naruto won on his own right...
The Kyubi power boost his chackra and by doing so, boost his body with new power indeed...
So Bayakugan letīs Neji see 360 degress and also suse Kaiten and the 64 hit tenketsu, and the possible awesome 128 hit tenketsu, it is not a spoil, it is in the game second rumors, neither in manga there is such a thing...
Sharingan let Sasuke copy and hypnotize the oponnent at the same time.... And since everyone knows, the inherit seal/curse he got changes something on him, but since It is not full explained yet, I shall not spoil...
All 3 seems fair for me, Neji just can be badass at Taijutsu because Bayakugan let he know all the time from where the movies are coming, quite like a radar, donīt get the wrong idea it is just a way to see things, he canīt be surprised, it is also his ability who gives that unchangeable fate stuff, naruto is the first one to surprise him.
So just accept it kiddo, the Kyubii can be considered for everyone pleasure an advanced bloodline, a characteristic that if is removed from any of these chatracters they will make no sense anymore, will be just kids as you all are, normal, with no capabilities beyond putting a feet in front of the other to walk... http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
(And you just like the anime because of the powers, you gotta confess, I doubt you go for the story as me, since you guys keep screaming filler, filler, filler).
werd
you sure a ancient monster that can destroy ever single ninja village, siding with a genin named naruto is fair? sharingan and byakugan doesnt even compare to kyubi dude.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 12 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> it will really amaze me if naruto can beat another genin ALL BY HIMSELF WITH NO RED CHAKRA. maybe ill respect him a lil more. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You mean like Kiba? Because farting certainly doesn't release red chakra.
By that note, what would happen to Neji if he didn't have Byakugan? His chances of winning with his current style wouldn't be too hot.
Furthermore, the closest Naruto has ever gotten to releasing ALL of the Kyuubi was in the fight against Haku.
Man, if you really want to start something with a character who doesn't rely on their own abilities, pick on Gaara or something.
this was a wicked ep http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
No offense man, but are you retarded. Sharingan is extremely powerful. To be able to copy any technique just by seeing it once is incredible, not to mention the hypnotic effect it has. I guess you have to read the manga tho. Once Itachi enters the picture you will see how powerful Sharingan really is.
so what? the point of being a ninja isnt to be fair....its to be the strongest. If you had a demon inside you, would you just never use it? Besides, whats fair about a rookie genin who graduated with the lowest scores going up against a more experienced genin that is from one of konoha's greatest clans and graduated with the highest scores?
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 12 2003, 11:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> you sure a ancient monster that can destroy ever single ninja village, siding with a genin named naruto is fair? sharingan and byakugan doesnt even compare to kyubi dude. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
dude I hardly think the fox is 'siding' with naruto. It's not like he's there by his own will.
Naruto earned the red chakra, and he earned the ability to use it. Neji was so wrapped up in fate, he just assumed Naruto was a powerless dropout.
owned.
I think that the bird was either
1. The Perverted Hermit - Watching Naruto's progress with his abilities (he DID train him http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/em...s/rolleyes.gif )
2. Kakashi - Wanted to see how Naruto, for obvious reasons...
as for the Frog, I dunno what help it woulda been, couldn't have POSSIBLY fitted (<-- that a word?) in the stadium http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/unsure.gif
hey, i have been unable to connect to the tracker recently, can anyone help me out?
What?
The bird flying away is a symbol of changing one's fate. It was discussed in the last episode-the symbol on Neji's head is the 'bird in the cage' which means a unchangeable fate..
Yea, the bird wasn't "anybody". It was just symbolism.
hey what were those two figueres that entered that smoke just after naruto and neji hit each other?
most likely neji and naruto http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
it seemed odd, and people have commented that, but i think what happend was a big explosion and smoke, then naruto and neji flying out of the smoke, and then you see them both flying back into the smoke....
this would not only explain the shadows, but why they formed craters the way they landed
Yeah that whirl must have cause some crazy "rebound" that made Naruto and Neji fly back into the smoke the way they did.
Yay, first post.
Ahhh... such a wonderful episode... turned the already great fight from the manga into one of my all time favorites.
What I liked:
Neji losing. Even though I began to like him a bit during this fight because he had a very interesting backstory, I've never really liked Neji for his Fate crap and general air. Not to mention, he went way to far in the Hinata fight, and Hinata's my second favorite character, right after Kakashi, so he'll always be a heartless bastard to me.
The SFX for the Chakra. Seemingly taking a page from DBZ, but actually making the aura look like an aura rather than the person being on fire. BEAUTIFUL. And then the effects for the Kaiten colliding with Naruto's charge... PERFECT.
Gaara having a facial expression other than psycho glee or pissed off. Is that fear or amazement? I don't know, but I think Naruto may have actually impressed Gaara.
Extra Instruments in the opening. The season 3 opening had been growing on me, but I still didn't like it as HAruka Kanata... until I heard the new instruments. There's more to a song than the lyrics, people, and those extra instruments enhanced the season 3 opening to the point of absolute adoration for me.
Now, for some random commentary on things that have been said.
First, the bird. Pretty much any time you see an animal in anime that doesn't directly interact with the characters, it's more often than not a symbol. In other words, I support the symbol of a caged bird idea. Naruto freed Neji's mind from the concept of fate at the end of the fight, and therefore the bird was released from the cage, hence why it flew away.
Next, for next episode. I wonder if I'm the only one who watches the episode previews. I think that it's pretty obvious what's next: Sasuke is too late. The name of the Next episode is: "Disqualified? Danger! Moving Ahead of Schedule! The Main Tournament with Troubles!" According to the AonE-ANBU dub. And then there's the scene after the episode title, with Naruto cheerfully pushing Shikamaru into the ring. Dare to guess what the next fight will be?
Finally, as for NAruto's use of the Kyuubi no Chakra... Naruto has the ability to use it, and at that moment he had the need to use it. I see no problem with him using one of his most powerful abilities to win. You forget this is a fighting tournament where they are encouraged to use everything at their disposal.
Anyway, I'm done ranting. All flames will be ignored.
place ur bets on the second match.
Well,
Naruto will have an interesting growth and lyubii wonīt show as often I guess, sorry if I spoiled... and the most amazing move of his is kyubii independent, it is the R...........
I believe I said too much already...
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 12 2003, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> im wondering, what will happen after the chuunin exams? or what will happen during the exam to be more precise. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
go to open forums http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/dry.gif
was a quality episode, go naruto, its ur birthday, we gonna party like its ur birthday......killa finishing move http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
"Now i have had enough of your poop mister orbison" quote from Orgazmo...
Well i'll get down to it.
Naruto, a person who has been disliked all his living years, living alone having no parents. All because he has Kyubi. Do you not think he would give up his powers to have his misserable life turned into something better? Some of you call him a cheat 'cause he always uses kyubi powers and so on. If no one had power like Sharingan, Byukugan, Rock Lee who really is a genious, Gaara's sand and so on; i personally think Naruto would be the strongest of them all.
Why? Because Naruto has trained harder then anyone else except Rock Lee who turned out to be a genious. Naruto is the only one who isn't a genious acording to bloodline and things like that (as far as i know). If it doesn't sometime later on turns out that the fourth Hokage is Naruto's father or anything like that.
as i see it, Naruto isn't more of a cheat than anyone else called a genious. All they hae to give them powers is the thing they were born with, just like Naruto. And i know some of you has pointed this out. But i still see a lot of faces towards Naruto, but no one has their face turned against Gaara, the person who a lot of you think rocks the world. I haven't seen Gaara making one single good move on his own with his body. I've only seen his body being tossed around by Rock Lee with no means of escape. If he was such a good Ninja, then how come he couldn't do a thing against Rock Lee except use his sand?
I saw Sasuke who is such a cool chap getting his ass whopped by Naruto in the ealier eps, then Naruto only used Kage Bunshin no Jutsu which he learned all on his own, with his own chakra. That was before he learned how to use Sharingan which he now more or less depends on to win a fight.
Neji is strong, that i'll give him. But almost every Ninjustu he knows is based on Byukugan as well as him being able to avoid attacks because he can see things others can't see. The question is if he even is strong at all or if he just depends on the tenkestu presure points to take enemies out of commotion.
They were all born with a gift, a gift they got through family or evil. Naruto isn't more of a cheat than anyone else, he have a stronger gift than everybody else, that's all. If Naruto is a cheat, then so is everyone else.
At least that is how i see it.
man im tired of this, lets go from naruto t gaara now, gaara is crap, he knows crap, he cant do crap, and he looks like crap. HAPPY!?
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Destiny @ Dec 13 2003, 04:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Hm... i think this time the Kyubi only lent Naruto just a fraction of his chakra, opposed to when he fought Haku. He uses the red chakra whenever he's run out of his original blue chakra, but perhaps the Kyubi likes to merge more depending on the situation.
Example:
- More red chakra was granted when he was fighting Haku becos he possessed extreme killing intent.
- Some red chakra was granted when he was fighting Orochimaru becos it was mainly for survival.
- Not much red chakra was granted when he was fighting Neji cos it was only to win a contest.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Well actually he can call some of it up at anytime now. He was given a small portion from Kyubi during the cliff fall sequence as a "gift". The ammount given for him to use at anytime probably wasn't as much as he used during the fight with Haku though.
i think naruto's body would exploded if kybui would unleash all it's chakra. due to naruto's body is too small to handle all the chakra. maybe we'll see when they grow up (maybe season 2?) that naruto will be able to summon all it's chakra. that would be wicked.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AssertnFailure @ Dec 12 2003, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> most likely neji and naruto http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/tongue.gif
it seemed odd, and people have commented that, but i think what happend was a big explosion and smoke, then naruto and neji flying out of the smoke, and then you see them both flying back into the smoke....
this would not only explain the shadows, but why they formed craters the way they landed </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
How bout the artists messed up and reversed the animation from what they intended?
Thats best explanation I got.
Byakugan, Sharingan, Haku's abilities, etc. They're all abilities that originated from birth. Those were all freebies that had their own negative consequences. Byakugan users have the whole Main family and branch family issues to deal with. Sharingan had to deal with Itachi going crazy.... Haku had to deal with being hunted. They all had tough pasts because they were different.
Naruto was different. Naruto had to deal with everyone treating him like he was the Kyuubi, and he had no idea why. Every other bloodline user knew why they were hated and they had to cope with it. Naruto had no idea why this hatred was coming towards him. Naruto, on his own, without the Kyuubi is a very impressive fighter. He was able to contend with the lucky/unlucky guys without use of the Kyuubi's chakra when Sasuke was worthless. Kyuubi's powers were sealed completely, he was fighting against 3 genins and doing so very well.
Haku was above a jounin level ninja. Zabuza said it himself, that even he wouldn't be able to beat Haku. Naruto and Sasuke did exceptionally well against Haku, who wasn't playing seriously. However, there was no way for the two of them to even come close to contending with the Haku fighting for his life. The Kyuubi's power was completely necessary to fight that fight and not lose.
Orochimaru is one of the 3 legendary ninjas. Nuff said, Naruto needed the Kyuubi for that whole encounter so as to not like... die...
However, in all the situations where he used the Kyuubi, he lost control of himself. He had no recollection of either event. With this excessive level of power, Naruto has had a bear of a time learning to control the ability and not become a bloodlusted psychopath like Gaara. Naruto has had to work exceptionally hard to earn the respect of those around him, like Kakashi, Sasuke, Sakura, Iruka, the Hokage, and now even the villagers. However, it doesn't measure up to him earning the respect of Gamabunta, and the Kyuubi. The Kyuubi even acknowledged him as being brave when he just flat out told him he better pay rent in the form of Chakra.
This fight, with Neji, Naruto had to exercise an excessive level of control so as not to lose himself and potentially even kill Neji. Even though it appeared as if though Neji was keeping up, I think Naruto wasn't even fighting seriously in that match towards the end. I think Neji realized that too at the end. However, it wasn't the power that won Naruto the fight, it was his ability to formulate a plan and think one or two or three moves ahead of Neji, which is why Neji lost at the end. He was careless and forgot all about Naruto's Kage Bushin no Jutsu, which cost him in the end. Naruto figured out Neji's weakness to the Byakugan and exploited it by digging a hole in the ground.
So bash Naruto all you want saying how he does nothing but rely on the Kyuubi inside of him. However if that was the case, do you really think he would have earned the respect he has now. If he didn't have abilities of his own, do you really think that Jiraiya, one of the legendary three ninjas, would have taken the time to teach Naruto how to use it? Jiraiya and the rest all see that Naruto has something that sets him apart from the other ninja, even if it doesn't make him the best, its a quality that those others all see as being exceptionally important.
Okay, This is long enough... I'll shut up now =P.
Btw... punctuation is your friend... Remember your punctuation when you post! =P
i think the thing where they hit the wall and rebounded back in makes sense...its just it was all focused out for the big explosion so you didnt see them hitting the wall on the way out.
at first i thought it was some jounins or something jumping in for some reason but then i was like..."there are no rules"
I liked this ep. The music for the intro and when Naruto was channeling Kyubis chakra was really good imo, and teh fight rocked, sent shivers down my spine.
As for the Kyubi vs Sharingan/Byukagen thing, I think the real difference there is the fact it goes against the principle of the anime. I mean Gai, Lee, and Naruto all seem to hold that they can beat their genius rivals, Kakashi/Neji/Sasuke through hardwork... And Gai being able to beat Kakashi, even with his Sharingan proves that. Then Naruto gets a genius-like power that no one could challenge with any amount of hard work...
The clan abilities are human and can be beaten. Kyubi is not and cannot. Well, within reason. That's why I consider Kyubi to be an unfair advantage, unlike the Sharingan etc.
I dont agree.. Sharingan, byugan and other bloodlines are exceptional powers provided within the clan..
Naruto isnt using Kyubi, he is using it's powers, just as if it was his bloodline. And like gaara, a curse which both can use to their advantage...
Okay ep, but I didn't like how Naruto beat Neji. Despite all of Narutos planning and cunning moves not once did he hurt or even hit Neji without the kyubi. Then after it recharged/empowered he spanked Neji in a matter of 2 minutes. I would have liked for Naruto to atleast have hit him a few times pre-kyubi.
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The clan abilities are human and can be beaten. Kyubi is not and cannot. Well, within reason. That's why I consider Kyubi to be an unfair advantage, unlike the Sharingan etc. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Kyubi is kinda like every bloodline x 10. Unlimited Chakra instant healing speed and power of opening gates without the damage Also when Naruto was kyubi empowered while fighting Haku he used his chakra to deflect incoming needles just like the special tech that Neji and elite members of the main house clan can use.
We can talk about bloodlines and kyubi all day and night. In the world of Naruto, some people have advantages and some dont. You could ask the same question in Lee vs Gaara. He was cursed with the sand ability just like Naruto. Now, he only used the sand powers to beat Lee and nothing external like taijutsu, ninjutsu or gentursu. He only controled the sand.
These genin's are special in their own ways, some more than others, but it's just like reality; some hav to work hard, and some are just naturals. There's always going to be someone better than you, so its best to just accept fact.
Anyhow, I spose Kakashi was right when he said to Gai "my guys would wipe the floor with your's" or sumthing http://www.gotwoot.net/forum/html/emoticons/wink.gif
Hm... i think this time the Kyubi only lent Naruto just a fraction of his chakra, opposed to when he fought Haku. He uses the red chakra whenever he's run out of his original blue chakra, but perhaps the Kyubi likes to merge more depending on the situation.
Example:
- More red chakra was granted when he was fighting Haku becos he possessed extreme killing intent.
- Some red chakra was granted when he was fighting Orochimaru becos it was mainly for survival.
- Not much red chakra was granted when he was fighting Neji cos it was only to win a contest.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (StaticX27 @ Dec 13 2003, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Haku was above a jounin level ninja. Zabuza said it himself, that even he wouldn't be able to beat Haku. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I think Zabuza was referring to Haku's Demonic Ice Mirrors Jutsu when he said he wouldn't be able to defeat it. Or was that Kakashi?
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (StaticX27 @ Dec 13 2003, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Naruto figured out Neji's weakness to the Byakugan and exploited it by digging a hole in the ground. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Actually, if you notice, Neji just plain didn't have the Byakugan activated when he recovered from the explosion. We don't know if he can't see underground with it, but that's really it.
its not like i hate naruto or anything, i just dont like him. he can beat anyone from the anbu squad to zabuza dude. if naruto can beat rock lee w/ his red chakra, im just gonna be pissed...
I knew it!!! The truth shall set you free! You're upset at everybody having these special powers because your favorite character is the one working his ass off trying to overcome not having any (i.e. Rock Lee).
Rock Lee is my favorite character as well, but the crappy part is I'm waiting for him to heal so he can get back out there. Unfortunately, he can no longer beat neji with his ure renge because neji has the kaiten. Damned shame really. I kept on thinking they wrote out Lee because people were seeing this guy as the king and everybody else as not-so-Lee.
I'm pissed that everybody has those special powers but if Lee were real and he was your friend and he saw you pissed off that everybody was blessed with their special abilities, Lee would tap you on the shoulder, and say it's all about the hard work. And all in all, after Lee, who have we seen to be working the hardest? I mean, for Christ Sakes, Naruto had to get thrown off a godamn cliff for his training!!!
Don't hate Naruto, Lee wouldn't want that! Hah!
Well since the points I was going to make about Naruto, Kyuubi and Neji have all been covered by other people :P Figure I'd touch on the shadows flying into the dust cloud thing that seems to be confusing some folks..
When Naruto's charge collided with Neji's Kaitten, they were both moving at extraordinary speeds. An example cited from another anime.. Kenshin vs. Shishio, the final blow.. When they hit, they shoved all the air between them out, creating a void which sucked them closer together.. then it all rushed back in and repelled. Same thing happened when Neji and Naruto hit: All that Chakra between them got thrown out around them, causing the huge dust cloud, then when that "void" got filled between them they got thrown apart and into the dust cloud.
Hopefully that didn't sound too muddled or anything, best way I can think of to explain it :P
~Chris
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rEkKaShInObI @ Dec 13 2003, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> no offense man but calling someone a retard isnt cool riftwing, if the sure the sharingan is powerful, but theres something always better, so dont assume anything. naruto's red chakra wasnt earned, it was given to him, in 2 occasions. one time was because he was about to die, and kyubi will die with him. and episode 62, his exact quotes from 62: "Damn Fox! Lend me your power!
pwned </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
and sharingan and byakugan were earned?
no i'm sorry naruto wouldn't stand a chance against rock lee
unlike you though i dont have a problem with naruto
maybe it's cause i've read the manga so i know more about him
thing is though he isn't invincible just cause he can use kyubi
kyubi might be close to invincible... naruto however isn't
and naruto didn't use only kyubi to beat neji.. someone was saying they were disappointed that naruto used only raw power to beat him but infact he created a clone and dug his way under neji and uppercutted him when his guard was down... of course neji wouldn't be so damaged if it wasn't for kyubi but neji might have beaten naruto if he had relied only on kyubi (of course we'll never know that now will we)
as for the argument about wether or not naruto's power is unfair: i think it's pointless
people are bound to have different opinions and they're not going to change just because you recite stuff that's happened in the anime
people are stubborn and people have different opinions
i think what naruto has is fair, but it won't ruin my day if someone for some messed up reason (that was a cheap shot i know) thinks it's unfair
well reading through the forum i was tired and not bothered to read all the long posts.. i know some people are but here's a short version for the people who aren't bothered:
* rock lee (with gates) would kick naruto's ass
* naruto with kyubi isn't invincible
* naruto did use tactics to beat neji
* arguing about a difference in opinion is pointless because it is just that: a difference in opinion
i thought i said i moved onto gaara? i dont care about naruto anymore. sharingan and byakugan were inherited as well. so thers no way you can earn whats inherited.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Frixgog @ Dec 13 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I knew it!!! The truth shall set you free! You're upset at everybody having these special powers because your favorite character is the one working his ass off trying to overcome not having any (i.e. Rock Lee).
Rock Lee is my favorite character as well, but the crappy part is I'm waiting for him to heal so he can get back out there. Unfortunately, he can no longer beat neji with his ure renge because neji has the kaiten. Damned shame really. I kept on thinking they wrote out Lee because people were seeing this guy as the king and everybody else as not-so-Lee.
I'm pissed that everybody has those special powers but if Lee were real and he was your friend and he saw you pissed off that everybody was blessed with their special abilities, Lee would tap you on the shoulder, and say it's all about the hard work. And all in all, after Lee, who have we seen to be working the hardest? I mean, for Christ Sakes, Naruto had to get thrown off a godamn cliff for his training!!!
Don't hate Naruto, Lee wouldn't want that! Hah! </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
your right man, nicely said.
I think we forgot that Naruto learned Kage Bunshin a jounin level technique that probably no other genin would be able to learn in the time span that Naruto learned it in. And remember he did this all without the help of the Kyuubi. I think there is more behind Naruto's power than just the Kyuubi.