Overlord

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" In the year 2138, virtual reality gaming is booming. Yggdrasil, a popular online game is quietly shut down one day. However, one player named Momonga decides to not log out. Momonga is then transformed into the image of a skeleton as 'the most powerful wizard.' The world continues to change, with non-player characters (NPCs) beginning to feel emotion. Having no parents, friends, or place in society, this ordinary young man Momonga then strives to take over the new world the game has become." -ANN

"I will not turn into a snake. It never helps." -Peter's Evil Overlord List

Subber: Horriblesubs
Genres: Action, adventure, seinen, virtual reality





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I decided to have a look at this show after I read the main character is a bloody Skeletor. That's something you don't see every day and definitely separates this positively from the more traditional titles of late, like SAO or Log Horizon (or the old predecessors like .hack). I have to admit I felt incredibly amused every time he was shown. I'm far from sure how evil he actually is, despite the looks and the fact the followers are like from the villain gallery of a regular show of this type. Even the... Uh, love interest was making all those crazed faces when he was testing the properties of the new world. I hope she's yandere. Actually I don't know how she couldn't be.

The animation budget leaves much to be desired, which is a huge pity as this looks like a show that can keep me entertained for sure. I love settings with a twist such as this.

Just got around to this. Was pretty entertaining for an MMO anime, and they somehow made the main character seem like a regular guy, so to speak.

It was a wise move to largely ignore the setup and technical specifications of the game-space, as that kind of world building is typically only good for inviting scrutiny and distracting from whatever story the author is trying to tell with generally unrelated exposition.

Stange MC, some tropes, and probably a quest and fights. I hope I can get some good laughs from this.

Episode 2 - HS




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I enjoyed this episode almost as much as the first one, which is saying a lot. The animation still doesn't look too hot, but I'm getting more used to that as the story and characters themselves are speaking for themselves. I especially enjoy how the MC is so divided between two. He's still the player, a gamer, essentially, but on the surface he must play the role of the Overlord for the sake of the NPCs turned alive, who know nothing else. He's a real gamer, however, by trying to pull it off, and succeeding well enough, although I suppose it's not so hard considering everybody in the castle is worshipping him. It also helps he's a real gamer because it gives him some natural tendencies making things easier, like considering taking over the world, as if that was the plot of this new game.

I keep appreciating the interaction between Momonga and Albedo. It's jolly good he changed her personality before the game ended. This is much better than a bitch. Although I guess she can be bitchy enough when facing somebody else than Momonga, especially another woman.

I hope life is life in this story and thus when someone or something is killed, it won't result only in particle effects but a corpse.

I am loving this anime so far. At first I thought Albedo was hot! But then....she just..opens her mouth like that and I am fucking scared of her now. Bitch is INSANE!

The two floor master/wive candidates went full on Hellsing there for a moment. It looks like he might have some justification for taking over this world if the NPCs are already killing and pillaging each other.

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Originally Posted by neflight86

It looks like he might have some justification for taking over this world if the NPCs are already killing and pillaging each other.

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If it's a (fantasy) medieval setting, there's simply no way the NPCs/people wouldn't be continuously warring. That's just how it was all over the world in reality as well during those times. Momonga doesn't actually seem like an evil fellow, so once he really starts to think of the NPCs as real living beings, it might be hard for him to have them killed in great numbers. I suppose there might be ways to avoid that, but since he's the Overlord of monsters, I don't think it would be easy. He needs to at least defeat the armies he's immediately facing if he plans to expand his influence. Would any human/elf settlements be willing to live under the rule of a Skeletor and his court of monsters, though?

I like how the NPC's everybody left them and that they are mostly following him because he stayed behind for him. Gives it a better twist.

Momonga just gave crazy bitch a teleporting ring.

One just doesn't give crazy bitches teleporting rings. Ever.

Not gonna lie...that bitch scares me.

Wait... Since he is just a skeleton, doesn't that mean he doesn't have a dick? What's with all this heir business?

They're afraid he'll eventually leave too, and want an heir that is part of the "game" world that they can continue to worship as their leader.

He mentioned his libido...and while I have no idea how being mostly a skeleton still works for that capacity, they've left it open to the possibility.

Boner......

Yes, he would have to bone(h)er.
I think they meant his mindset. Like now he can't even get turned on or something.
Besides even if he could...there will probably be some kind of skill/magic to turn him human or something to make that heir. That or the other route...adoption :P

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Not gonna lie...that bitch scares me.

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I don't see any problems as long as he's not planning to cheat on her (she might murder the other girl). He's supposed to be an evil overlord. The lady has to be of that calibre at least, surely. She's the leader of the various guardians in any case, so she can't be any yamato nadeshiko. It doesn't seem like he minds his role, either, playing it outwardly quite smoothly.

He just has to seemingly show favour to another of his servants - and it doesn't even have to be a girl.

Yandere was actually fine with Momonga having multiple partners. She just wanted to be number 1. Her quarrel with vamp girl and quick turnaround from jealousy to ecstasy in the tele-ring scene showed this.

Exactly. Whatever benefits he gives his other servants, she has to receive even more from him (or else she'll think she's not #1). Still crazy scary as fuck.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Exactly. Whatever benefits he gives his other servants, she has to receive even more from him (or else she'll think she's not #1). Still crazy scary as fuck.

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That sounds about right. It's a lair of monsters, after all. Momonga simply has to make sure the ultimate end result is beneficial for his plans, no matter if it's Albedo trying ever harder to gain his greatest favour over the others or some infighting making them all stronger in a villainous way. They need to be ready to survive occasional backstabbing in the service of Skeletor.

It's all cool, really.

Episode 3 - HS





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Bloody great episode. It's an interesting aspect Momonga's emotions are stunted due to being an undead, yet he realises it himself, as a player. I'm not 100% sure how to feel about his rather mellow and friendly approach, but at the same time I pretty much think I'd have done everything more or less the same had I been there myself, so it wouldn't be right to criticise him. He did call it only acting, so it's cool so far.

Above all it was great to see him create the death knight and then send it to slaughter the hapless soldiers. That sure brought back good memories from Warcraft. Actually the whole sequence of scenes was great, right from the soldiers being baffled by the portal. It was a good combination of the freshness of a liche being the MC and the somewhat more usual asskicking MC. I wish we had seen a bit of fighting from Albedo but in the end those small fries weren't really worth the effort, as Momonga noted. Her attitude was suitable, that much was revealed.

Watched all 3 episodes, first two were alright going through the motions of entertainment, but the 3rd episode I thought it was great. Really violent too. Looking forward to more of it.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

It's an interesting aspect Momonga's emotions are stunted due to being an undead, yet he realises it himself, as a player.

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Intellectually he's intact, and he's experienced emotions before so it all makes sense.

Albedo's armour was great. I never expected that despite forewarned with "fully armed". Grasp Heart would easily become my favourite spell as well. It's the epitome of assassination really.

Very shrewed developments Momonga is steering. Glad he still has, at least intellectually, some compassion for the weak.

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I'm starting to think Ains would really benefit from having another player around. Right now he has nobody in whose company he could relax. He must always play the role when in his own people's company. Actually he needed to play a double role when in the human village. No doubt his new undead mentality will help with that, but as we see continuously, he still needs to act. Naturally it's far better this way since it's a major positive aspect of the character, as opposed to simply watching a story of some regular demon king leading his troops. It's kind of sad he needs to stay in the role the most in Albedo's company.

Another great episode, divided between Ains's calculations and straightforward asskicking. Good thing these were still early opponents as he's been quite OP so far. As much fun as it has been to watch people standing and staring in awe before dropping dead. No doubt there are tougher individuals out there, just waiting for a chance to face him. But until then he needs to be at least this powerful since he's just an ignorant leader of a tomb of monsters whereas the opponents are old empires and kingdoms. Being a monster, he's by default an enemy to the humans, creating another weakness.

He needs to let his underlings do some fighting, though. Albedo only got a tiny chance to show her skills now. I want to see her fight more! And the rest of them as well.

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I'm starting to think Ains would really benefit from having another player around. Right now he has nobody in whose company he could relax. He must always play the role when in his own people's company. Actually he needed to play a double role when in the human village. No doubt his new undead mentality will help with that, but as we see continuously, he still needs to act. Naturally it's far better this way since it's a major positive aspect of the character, as opposed to simply watching a story of some regular demon king leading his troops. It's kind of sad he needs to stay in the role the most in Albedo's company.

Another great episode, divided between Ains's calculations and straightforward asskicking. Good thing these were still early opponents as he's been quite OP so far. As much fun as it has been to watch people standing and staring in awe before dropping dead. No doubt there are tougher individuals out there, just waiting for a chance to face him. But until then he needs to be at least this powerful since he's just an ignorant leader of a tomb of monsters whereas the opponents are old empires and kingdoms. Being a monster, he's by default an enemy to the humans, creating another weakness.

He needs to let his underlings do some fighting, though. Albedo only got a tiny chance to show her skills now. I want to see her fight more! And the rest of them as well.

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Was disappointed with the action and level of violence. I think episode 3 spoiled me.

Just in case, there's a scene after the credits in this episode.

As expected, nothing is scarier than pissing off Alberdo. Nothing

And at the end Albedo is looking all happy and barely containing herself when she is thinking that he was so freaking cool.

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I can't blame the adventurer; the maid warrior is really beautiful. Even if she thinks all humans are vermin.

This episode brought my first gripe with this show, which is quite remarkable considering we are already 5 eps in. Namely the overlord is a part-timer subplot. He complains he doesn't have money, but since he's a level 100 player, he must have tons upon tons of gold, silver, and precious stones stashed away. So what if the coins are foreign? Just melt them and cast into bars so nobody is none the wiser when seeing them. Gold is gold. A coin from medieval times was only worth as much as the metal it was made of is worth. Something costs half a silver? Snap a silver coin in half, and voila! There were coins only because it could save a little time from weighing, thus speeding up business, and various powers liked to feel proud with their own coins.

I don't expect him to toil like a n00b for a moment, though, so I guess my worry is purely academic. We are already seeing a third power that's going to mess with his first mission, after all. In the end he knows so little that no matter what he's doing in the city or no matter who he's talking to, he's always going to learn a lot, and that knowledge is what he's after, the money doesn't matter.

Wished episodes were longer, really enjoying this one even this episode was purely a set-up one.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

This episode brought my first gripe with this show, which is quite remarkable considering we are already 5 eps in. Namely the overlord is a part-timer subplot. He complains he doesn't have money, but since he's a level 100 player, he must have tons upon tons of gold, silver, and precious stones stashed away. So what if the coins are foreign? Just melt them and cast into bars so nobody is none the wiser when seeing them. Gold is gold. A coin from medieval times was only worth as much as the metal it was made of is worth. Something costs half a silver? Snap a silver coin in half, and voila! There were coins only because it could save a little time from weighing, thus speeding up business, and various powers liked to feel proud with their own coins.

I don't expect him to toil like a n00b for a moment, though, so I guess my worry is purely academic. We are already seeing a third power that's going to mess with his first mission, after all. In the end he knows so little that no matter what he's doing in the city or no matter who he's talking to, he's always going to learn a lot, and that knowledge is what he's after, the money doesn't matter.

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Well since I've read the LN I don't know how much they'll expand on this but he has a few reasons for not using any of his gold, they just skipped it in the adaptation so far. Just felt like mentioning that it's more because of the adaptation than his actions.

The entire adventurer subplot for info is ridiculous. He is ridiculously powerful. He can just interrogate some dude for that info without wasting so much time. In fact, he could've gotten tons of info from angel priest in the episode before this, but he didn't. If this is about him being moral, well, he pawns humans left and right just because they don't agree with him.

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

The entire adventurer subplot for info is ridiculous.

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I wouldn't be so adamant about the ridiculousness. Let's not forget he's a player, even if this new reality kind of messes with his emotions. But still he's practically speaking in the position of a gamer whose favourite game got a massive new expansion. No doubt a part of him just wants to go adventuring and experiencing the new place just like he used to, despite the fact he's vastly OP and few things could oppose him. Thus that part doesn't bother me as it makes sense. Just the earning money part was stupid, I guess because I don't know what Fireheart knows.

Then he should say that in his monologue. It's a problem of delivery. He explains his adventurer scheme as if it's some brilliant plan when it really is a time waster. If he just wants to have fun, that's fine. Make sure that's what you tell the audience. A single internal line like, "What player wouldn't want to OP the early levels of an RPG?" should suffice.

Even if that did happen though, I still don't like it. This feels like the author's wish fulfillment of starting an adventure RPG at level 100... which is exactly what is happening.

I suppose he's taking his responsibility as the lord of the tomb seriously enough that he had to come up with excuses even to himself. He did note much earlier that he needs to infiltrate and check out the city personally. That's more or less confessing he just wants to adventure. I do agree that taking such a formal way around it by joining guilds and shit is very dodgy writing. It's not like he would be expecting to hit the main story of the game or anything by doing that. He's merely out to learn about the world and the powers within. Hardly any need to join the guild as a newbie for that. In fact it poses the danger of revealing too much. In the end every second he spends learning about others by socialising, the others will also equally learn about him. The others just have little to hide, whereas he has everything to hide. Even if he wanted to check if the adventurers' guild has other players, there would be other ways to do it.

I dunno, flooding the new world economy with the ludicrous amounts of gold that the tomb has is probably a very bad idea. Word will get out very quickly and they'll have an army at their door, potentially including other Level 99 player characters. Like showing up in a favela and asking if they can cash a travelers check for $10,000.

He already screwed up without realizing it by giving out a potion before seeing what the denizens of this world are capable of making on their own.

I imagine he thought about the gold, but missed the less obvious aspect of giving away super rare items that he (as a caster/crafter) feels are basically trash.

Shinta, remember what he said, that they should move forward assuming the enemy is stronger than they are? He's moving with caution. It's not a bad idea.

All this talk has made me keen for another Elder Scroll game :)

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I dunno, flooding the new world economy with the ludicrous amounts of gold that the tomb has is probably a very bad idea. Word will get out very quickly and they'll have an army at their door, potentially including other Level 99 player characters. Like showing up in a favela and asking if they can cash a travelers check for $10,000.

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Umm... Yeah. I didn't actually mean he would buy the whole capital city. He would ruin no economy by having some cash in his pockets, to use whenever he needs to, in shops and taverns, within reason. He's walking in a suit of armor that makes the other adventurers drool, so it's far more suspicious he has no money. They'll think he stole the armor from somewhere, or even murdered and robbed his former lord and then fled to this city.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Shinta, remember what he said, that they should move forward assuming the enemy is stronger than they are? He's moving with caution. It's not a bad idea.

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So he gives away a potion without considering its value even though he should know better being a level 100 player?

Moreover, proceeding with caution and exposing yourself to great risk of discovery (like he is doing right now) does not compute. Even his random attempt at "leading" the conversation with the mission receptionist to get a high difficulty bronze job is poorly written. He could've just asked for it. His ignorance was no less exposed with his outright bragging.

The biggest problem with the current development isn't his motivation. It's his execution. If even the audience, who is certainly not as familiar with him about the game, has better and faster ideas than he does, then his actions come off as illogical. Illogical is fine if he himself is fine with it, but if he actually believes his adventurer roleplaying is a good idea, well, it makes the entire thing unbelievable.

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So he gives away a potion without considering its value even though he should know better being a level 100 player?

Moreover, proceeding with caution and exposing yourself to great risk of discovery (like he is doing right now) does not compute. Even his random attempt at "leading" the conversation to get a high difficulty bronze job is poorly written. He could've just asked for it. His ignorance was no less exposed with his outright bragging.

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He stuffed up the potion thing. It was a rash decision forced on him when his maid was ready to kill the guy. Kind of like a certain hostage in another show.

I didn't have a problem with the conversation. It wasn't exactly his intention to ask for the highest bronze quest. He didn't even know there were limits to what he can and can't do with his rank or how strictly they were enforced. If he just asked, he'd seem like a noob and also be declaring that he can't read when they point him back to the board (lazy bum). Now instead, his request was fulfilled (by an obligation of sorts) because the counter staff knocked him back.

It WAS his intention to ask for the highest bronze quest. His internal comment at the end of that conversation says that much. His tantrum about wanting a mission that is not available for his rank screams noob more than anything else. The better execution would be: "I'm a bad ass, and so is my friend. Give me the hardest bronze quest here." Done. That way, he just looks lazy or wants to check if there are other jobs not put on the board, much like the job he got with his new friends.

I'll concede there. However, I do think that Momo would have taken a platinum (or whatever) rank mission had he been allowed to.

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Momon OP.

Albedo scary. If she's gone as far as to make a body pillow, certainly she's imagined what he looks like down there. The fact that she still considers children a real possibility means she's screwed in the head (stating the obvious, I know).

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Albedo scary. If she's gone as far as to make a body pillow, certainly she's imagined what he looks like down there. The fact that she still considers children a real possibility means she's screwed in the head (stating the obvious, I know).

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Maybe Ains should have read the rest of the description carefully before simply changing the last line from a bitch to in a love with Momonga... No doubt this single-minded, obsessive behavior is also from her creator's pen. But then again, I'm not sure it's such a bad thing. It's a dark tomb of monsters, so her behavior is more or less fitting. What comes to the children with an undead, who knows. She's a demon herself. Maybe she's naturally thinking magic can solve everything, or rather only magic matters in the first place.

I wonder what role the homicidal woman we keep seeing will play. While Ains is a lord of monsters, he isn't exactly evil, and generally keeps his underlings from performing fell deeds with suitable excuses. This Clementine is a genuine villain, though. I do hope Ains won't turn into a pure hero that only keeps saving the world.

The story is proceeding slower than I keep expecting, but I don't really mind since I'm enjoying every minute. But it does make me worry about how much the season can cover before we run out of episodes.

When all is said and done, I'd much rather have my 2nd-in-command be madly in love with me than be a complete bitch to me. As an undead I wouldn't worry about being poisoned, but she could give you the slip either way. I'm not exactly sure how loyalty and bitchiness would mix.

I take the murdering girl to be an evil henchman, one of the (nine?) seats of some evil organisation that's opposing Momon's world dominance.

I didn't catch the part that Ains was the actual person Momon wanted to look for (if it was even mentioned in previous episodes). Not a bad idea, even if you could have just gone with Momon and they'd look for you just the same if they were pals.

Still enjoying this one a lot, but man is this shit slow as fuck. Lots of wasted scenes, like the camp fire one... too long.

Overword should be the new title for this show. They repeated shameless praise for Momon 2-3x, and it's the same damn info.

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I didn't catch the part that Ains was the actual person Momon wanted to look for (if it was even mentioned in previous episodes). Not a bad idea, even if you could have just gone with Momon and they'd look for you just the same if they were pals.

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What are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

Overword should be the new title for this show. They repeated shameless praise for Momon 2-3x, and it's the same damn info.



What are you talking about?

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15:17 - "Ains Ooal Gown. My shining everything."

At first I thought this was the knight, but it could also be:

2) the party name (more likely now that I think about it), or
3) some weird direct translation of "My Shining Everything" - a motto that the group decided on (less likely)

While searching for this, I noticed Albedo got Momon's scapula wrong. tsk tsk.

Wasn't it 4) The guild name?

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

Wasn't it 4) The guild name?

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It was? I don't remember. That would make sense.

Anon - Overlord Specials, for some good chibi fun

Yeah it was the name of the guild that apparently everyone in Yggdrassil knew. So he change his name from Momon to that. To try and spread the name so that if any players were left they would know someone from that guild was also still there.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Anon - Overlord Specials, for some good chibi fun

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Good thing that's only a special. He's better off with undead stunted emotions. A lord of monsters shouldn't be nervous or fraternise quite that much with underlings. The poor subjects would only get confused.

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I can't blame Ains for not being impressed. It was all the funnier when everybody else was, even Nabe, sort of. I guess she can judge monsters very mercifully even if all humans are bugs in her opinion.

Although Ains is clearly building himself a good reputation and some solid direct connections in the surrounding area, I wonder how much it will amount to. The long suffering village apparently accepted the summoned goblins no problem, but I have some doubt any human settlement would accept the den of a hundred monsters Ains is leading. So, what good does it all make? Just to spread around the name along with fame, not infamy? He doesn't really need to go this far for that alone with the socialising.

At least the evil woman finally met the alchemist. Took her long enough. Even with how slow the show is, I expected something more to happen in this episode already.

I love the new hamster. I hope Nabe keeps it.

Currently we've established:

Tier 3: Master
Tier 5: Hero
Tier 7: Miracle
Tier 9: Momon.

Suffice to say, nothing in this show will challenge Momon in any straight-forward way. It'll all be stuff like "How do I appear strong while taming a hamster" or "How do I calm Albedo down" etc.

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Suffice to say, nothing in this show will challenge Momon in any straight-forward way. It'll all be stuff like "How do I appear strong while taming a hamster" or "How do I calm Albedo down" etc.

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He did note he needs to keep an eye on dragons. It would be cool if dragons were really powerful in this series, at least some species of them.

I miss Ains and Albedo's interaction already, even thought Nabe is cute and cool by her own right. But it's not the same since Nabe doesn't possess much ambition of her own. She acts like a bodyguard pretty much 100%, and any quirks she has are either reactions to stuff Ains says or insulting humans when she's especially called out.

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The crew is even more OP than I thought, but that doesn't make a difference really. Anything > Tier 6 or 7 is "good enough" for world domination. This just means Nabe can do it on her own.

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Anything > Tier 6 or 7 is "good enough" for world domination. This just means Nabe can do it on her own.

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I somewhat doubt it would be that easy. On the other hand I'd also find it very dubious Ains was the only person who staid logged on. I mean, if it was your absolutely favourite game, you respected the studio, spent hours upon hours there, wouldn't you personally have wanted to sit there during the last moments just to see if there might be some message from the creators after the credits? I understood the game had been losing popularity, but there were still people there, and such an occasion probably would have attracted a whole bunch just for the old times sake.

In other words, there ought to be a bunch of godly beings in addition to Ains around. However, we don't actually know if all of them would have been transferred over to the new world. They might have just been kicked out of the game with a message thanking them for the support over the years. Maybe Ains was an exception for some concrete reason.

Still very much entertained, but things have been developing at a snails pace. Waiting for it to take the next step, and considering how the episode ended we might take a step in that direction in the next one.

Will have to check the specials later.

I thought the full reaction to the hamster was very good, from just about everyone involved.

Seems like AniDB lists this as a 13 eps series. AniDB has traditionally been more careful about stating episode numbers before there's any real information (unlike the likes of ANN), so I deem it somewhat trustworthy. This is naturally a huge pity. The show has been moving so slowly that we don't even get much in 13 eps, just the beginning.

I don't see anything wrong with the pacing. It's "Everyday with Ains-sama" or "Demon King takes over the world with a part-time job (except he's actually awesome)".

It's doing everything right.

I am pretty sure there are other players but not all had the same position as him and can use the same methods. And this world may be a whole lot bigger so they could be on the other side of the world for all he knows.

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I don't see anything wrong with the pacing. It's "Everyday with Ains-sama" or "Demon King takes over the world with a part-time job (except he's actually awesome)".

It's doing everything right.

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3 episodes spent on a meaningless travelling quest is poor pacing in my book.

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Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin

I am pretty sure there are other players but not all had the same position as him and can use the same methods.

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Yeah, if there are players who hadn't bothered to build a stronghold full of strong NPCs, they would automatically be much weaker than Ains as a whole, although individually they would be every bit as dangerous provided they are max level and in possession of formidable magical artefacts. I guess the latter would go without saying as I've yet to see an RPG where high level players wouldn't have accumulated nice gear. As for the former, if the game so splendidly allowed it, like the tomb of the Ains group demostrated, why wouldn't others have done the same, even if on a smaller scale? Player homes could be raided, so one would have wanted some kind of protection.

Since Ains was mildly concerned about dragons, a dragon rider player might be nice. It would also explain being able to cover a bigger portion of the bigger world.

True.

But what I am also wondering is, how strong melee players are? I mean Momo is a max level magic caster. We have seen some of the shit he can do. He can use the highest tier magic. So it would make sense that a game would have balanced Melee classes such as warriors to being able to be just as powerful right? That one knight showed a few skills but it didn't seem all the impressive. So that's what I'd like to see. Momo vs a max level melee player.

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But what I am also wondering is, how strong melee players are? I mean Momo is a max level magic caster. We have seen some of the shit he can do. He can use the highest tier magic. So it would make sense that a game would have balanced Melee classes such as warriors to being able to be just as powerful right? That one knight showed a few skills but it didn't seem all the impressive. So that's what I'd like to see. Momo vs a max level melee player.

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Yeah. Just Ains using magical armor that allows him to fight with swords by sacrificing most of his magic prowess is, it seems, stronger than the royal knight (although the royal knight probably was only as skillful as ordinary humans go, not as high as exceptional humans (like heroes) in that world are, if I remember anything from the adventurers' talk). Like you said, the classes would have been balanced in the original game. I guess a level 100 pure melee fighter would split a mountain with a single swing of a sword... Since Ains could max his level by only choosing magical skills (or closely related), I reckon one could have done the same with melee related skills.

It certainly would be interesting to see it! It wouldn't even need to be an enemy. In fact I might prefer it not to be. I still think Ains could use a buddy who's also a player (a man, so that Albedo wouldn't get jealous). Since Ains's underlings are all so fleshed out and with strong personalities, I think it would be interesting to see how they behaved in the company of a guest as strong as Ains himself. Especially if it's a human since they all seem to detest humans. That would be funny. If it was another player from the old game, he wouldn't give a shit about the fact they are all monsters.

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Really? Albedo would get jealous of anyone getting close to Ains. She's deranged, and don't forget that the dark elf she already got a little jealous of because they got a ring before she did...is a trap.

Perhaps, but I reckon she would get less jealous. At least a man wouldn't make children with Ains before she did. We haven't seen her get jealous of the butler or the scientist type, at least.

I'd say it'd be even funnier if it WAS a female player that was just as strong.

Skeletor's Harem.

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Perhaps, but I reckon she would get less jealous. At least a man wouldn't make children with Ains before she did. We haven't seen her get jealous of the butler or the scientist type, at least.

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I'd say it'd be even funnier if it WAS a female player that was just as strong.

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Skeletor's Harem.

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This is one big reason why I would like it to be a dude. I'm not such a fan of harems these days. Of course it could be a woman with zilch romantic interest in Ains, but honestly I don't have much faith in the Japanese authors in that sense, to be able to pull it off. I like Albedo, so I hope she won't have too hard a time with her love. She doesn't need a rival who's stronger than she is, let alone a player. Needless to say, Ains should fully shoulder the consequences of altering Albedo's description.

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Needless to say, Ains should fully shoulder the consequences of altering Albedo's !@#$%.

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I noticed this a few episodes ago.. does "bitch" mean "slut" to the Japanese?

Yes, it does.

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I have seen with lots of manga and anime that translators oft choose to use "slut" instead of "bitch". Apparently the Japanese indeed mean slut very often if not always. It's really hard to keep it in mind. But perhaps the wall of text describing Albedo was the description of a slut and then the last line simply summed it up as a bitch (in the Japanese manner). So, changing it only made Ains the target of her sluttishness, but basically changed nothing. Though she's also a bitch as far as the loli vampire is concerned, I'd say.

Can you be called a slut if you only seduce one man?

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Her general behavior is fitting, quite sexual, although she's now only interested in a single man. But a good point, nonetheless. Maybe Ains managed to create a contradiction by not bothering to read all of it.

I don't think the rest of her description would point towards her being a slut. It's weird to finally say "She's a bitch" after you've used a paragraph to say so. It definitely seems more like a throw-in line.

Quite simply, Albedo's madly in love with Ains. She has sexual thoughts and so forth, but never actually dresses particularly provokingly by anime standards, nor does she try to directly sexually entice him. (Spreading your scent on their bedsheets doesn't count). Being sexually open (slut) and devoted (despite being sexually charged) are mutually exclusive.

She's his underling. She can't approach him first. But when Ains happens to make the first move, she's quick to follow.

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I enjoyed the blend of Momon's badassery and Hamusuke's fluffy incompetence. Seeing Momon get one-upped by Nabe and subsequently using his authority to slam her down was a bad move though. He'd be much more graceful as a leader if he admits his own inadequacies when they're pointed out. That move was a stain on his wisdom and frankly immature.

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Seeing Momon get one-upped by Nabe and subsequently using his authority to slam her down was a bad move though. He'd be much more graceful as a leader if he admits his own inadequacies when they're pointed out. That move was a stain on his wisdom and frankly immature.

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It wasn't such a bad move. He's a lord of monsters, so there's nothing wrong about exerting his authority every now and then. That reminds the underlings of who's the boss and makes sure they don't grow bolder and bolder to the point they might hurt Ains's own plans.

Still, that being said, I do agree that he should have at least been more honest and told Nabe he's pushing forward himself because he feels like cracking some skulls personally. No doubt that's the real reason; he's a player, after all. I'm somewhat sure Nabe would have accepted such a reason naturally.

It's just wrong the series is well past the half-way point now. I'm already feeling dejected, just like with Mondaiji.

I do think its weird that he keeps on using his swords like that. Is he that strong to defeat her while being nerfed to only use melee?

My guess is that his armor converts magic prowess proportionally into melee prowess. Ains said he can't use his real (magical) power while wielding it. He has a somewhat good grasp of the general levels of power in that world, so his estimation of his chances against the woman is already educated. Whereas Clementine, tragically, hasn't got a clue of what she's facing. She must be thinking he's just another somewhat high level adventurer full of bravado (that she has never heard of and thus can't be too legendary). She has likely beaten many, based on her collection. If she wasn't such a psycho, she might have stopped to think for a moment, but she is what she is.

Safe to say those swords Ains is using must be worth a king's ransom. Who knows what sort of a raid they are from. Unless they were made by a buddy who had levelled all the way up smithing and enchanting. I don't think he would use just any sort of pieces of metal considering he's a mage, not a warrior.

Just looked back on Ep 3 and it seems that the Chief Royal Warrior, Gazef Stronoff. Is one of the handful of people who can fight Clementine on equal grounds. From what we've seen....he wasn't that much. So yeah she is pretty much screwed.

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Can we trust that, though? I have feeling she hasn't actually fought the dude. She's probably only estimating him based on his fame, which seems to be overblown. I wouldn't be surprised if she was stronger. Or at least I hope she is. If she has fought and slain dozens of adventures, one would think she would have nice magical items in her possession, as well as varied skills.

But yeah, she's screwed, of course, although I wouldn't be surprised if she managed to escape.

I'm looking forward to an action PvP between him and another max player. Just think of the devastation!

So, Ainz Ooal Gown vs. Shiba Tatsuya... who do you got? Go.

Kinda pissed that it's seeming like a 13 episode series, hope we get more.

But Tatsuya is Jesus. He'll even forgive Ainz for his sins.

Kidding aside, there are many who could stand on equal grounds with Tatsuya (though ultimately lose) in his world. Ainz so far has none. Not even close.

This dumb "I won't take you seriously is my revenge" crap is dumb. Did I say it was dumb?

The best revenge is torture. Her pride would be mutilated just the same, but so will her body and mind. Then have her raped by your summons and then by Hamusuke. Then heal her with a potion and do it over and over again in the middle of town. That'll definitely spread his name like wildfire. I'm not quite sure, but did it have to be fame? Or was infamy just as good?

I actually liked how he bluffed his way with Nabe. It was actually one of the rare funny scenes in this show. It also shows that he isn't as smart as he pretends to be. He is just a pro player in a game he has mastered, but other than that, his intellect is a salaryman's.

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I enjoyed the blend of Momon's badassery and Hamusuke's fluffy incompetence. Seeing Momon get one-upped by Nabe and subsequently using his authority to slam her down was a bad move though. He'd be much more graceful as a leader if he admits his own inadequacies when they're pointed out. That move was a stain on his wisdom and frankly immature.

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Well, he IS immature... at the very least has plenty of immaturity in him, that has been his MO since the very beginning.

Also, let's not forget that he has his own goals, some of them he doesn't want his followers to know or even question, so he NEEDS to exert his authority when his plans are questioned since they won't always align with what he's portraying to his followers.

For example, I have no doubt that part of it was he wanted to save the kid. Nabe sees his sole goal as him spreading his reputation, but that's not all Momon is about and he can't let his soft side show, even if he at times is in denial of them.

That said, when he cut up the zombie-companions, that was quite badass. No hesitation in the action and no regret. No single thought wasted on them.

I agree that he's immature (hence his behaviour). What I'm annoyed with is that he doesn't try to address it. Imagine if this was a party and someone on a similar level asked him that - he'd be a lot nicer. His betraying Nabe's trust (in his wisdom) is what pisses me off the most. I could laugh it off in previous situations (and in the Overlord specials) because he sidestepped the issue instead of slamming Nabe with "Think about it yourself".

He is betraying his minions' trust just by existing. He isn't what they think he is.

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I don't think that's quite right. He stayed back with them. To all intents and purposes his "real" role as a living person is actually irrelevant. They're not believing he's an NPC. They don't even believe they are NPCs. They're all just people in a world, and that's true enough.

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I don't think that's quite right. He stayed back with them. To all intents and purposes his "real" role as a living person is actually irrelevant. They're not believing he's an NPC. They don't even believe they are NPCs. They're all just people in a world, and that's true enough.

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They think he's a supreme being, one of the deities that created them all. So, they certainly are regarding him as something few humans could ever act like consistently. It's all the worse all of his minions are monsters or otherwise on the dark side. It doesn't matter so much if it's a game and they are NPCs of limited functionality, but now they are all fully intelligent and independent living creatures. The pressure on Ains is huge. That's why I'm hoping he would find a player buddy in whose company he could relax 100% and fool around, without needing to act like a badass overlord all the time. Not a romantic companion, though, but just a buddy.

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They think he's a supreme being, one of the deities that created them all. So, they certainly are regarding him as something few humans could ever act like consistently. It's all the worse all of his minions are monsters or otherwise on the dark side. It doesn't matter so much if it's a game and they are NPCs of limited functionality, but now they are all fully intelligent and independent living creatures. The pressure on Ains is huge. That's why I'm hoping he would find a player buddy in whose company he could relax 100% and fool around, without needing to act like a badass overlord all the time. Not a romantic companion, though, but just a buddy.

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I don't think that's quite right. He stayed back with them. To all intents and purposes his "real" role as a living person is actually irrelevant. They're not believing he's an NPC. They don't even believe they are NPCs. They're all just people in a world, and that's true enough.

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What I meant is the very nature of his existence forces him to deceive them all the time. He is basically hiding his identity, intellect, capabilities, everything. Even the goal he explained to them is a lie. That is pretty much betraying their trust.

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What I meant is the very nature of his existence forces him to deceive them all the time. He is basically hiding his identity, intellect, capabilities, everything. Even the goal he explained to them is a lie. That is pretty much betraying their trust.

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That is true. On reflection, it's not so much his lying that I find offensive, but that he is continuously calling Nabe stupid regardless of what she's saying. When she's wrong, he shouts "Don't be stupid", when she's right he shouts "Think for yourself!" Rudeness aside it makes him a sore loser.

You lose badassery points when you're a sore loser.

I'm not sure if he really is saying "Don't be stupid" in Japanese. Seemed a bit milder when I was watching it.

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The battle maids are fricking powerful as well, and there's a whole group of them. Yet one would imagine they are lesser being compared to the officers, or whatever you would call those serving directly under Albedo and the butler.

There's something about those slow, intimate eye-to-eye killing scenes that make them especially brutal and gruesome compared to the regular slaying scenes. The one I can't ever forget is the knifing scene from Private Ryan, and thus when a scene brings that into my mind, like now Ains crushing Clementine slowly did, it's a good sign.

I wonder what the very end was all about. I know I shared Ains's reaction of "Huh?". The vampire loli seems to be as much in love with Ains as Albedo, so it's quite unimaginable it would be exactly as Albedo said with no twists.

Edit: I probably wouldn't be able to serve under Nabe. I couldn't possibly deal with all the insults. She seems to have an unlimited supply of them.

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Floor Guardians.

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I don't know, they can be such a turn-on.

I have no idea what the loli-vampire is up to, but she guards the lowest floors. I take that to mean she's the weakest of them all. This will be no trouble.

Yeah but this isn't like the game anymore. At least not all parts of it. She is a vampire so she'll probably consume a lot of blood to get a lot stronger. Guessing she wanted to fight Ains at her strongest to show she is better than Albedo? Dunno, just throwing theories against the wall..See what sticks.