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Naruto 406 by binktopia
"They're 106."
:-P
$10 say those are page numbers in Jiraiya's perv-book.
Makes sense..although that raises the question of which one of his books.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage
Dang, I totally thought that transition from page 5 to 6 was Tsunade snapping on some glasses and pretending to act like a nerd. Really threw me for a loop.
Anyway, I liked this chapter a lot better than the last one. I think a lot more was resolved with the characters than in 405. This is the part of Naruto I really like, wise words and fond memories.
Edit: Did I miss something?? How did the Leaf get a hold of one of Pain's bodies?
hmph, Shikamaru dragged him out of this.
Kurenai can no longer win the sexy ninja title.
the coding girl has a crush on Shikimaru.
9.31.8
106.7
207.15
it's numbercial, they say.
maybe if you add a digit to each number it'll make sense, there'll be common root or something.
9 can be=
19,29,39,49,59,69,79,89,99 or.
91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99
I'll work on it a bit latter, even though it's completly futile.
Another chapter that didn't answer the question and it's expected so in the next chapter. Initially, I thought the decoding process is going to be easy and quick and we will be revealed with the secret of the code. However, we don't get to be excited with this chapter as there isn't any big hint or development that can bring the story into another higher level. Why do I say this? This is because I am sure all the Naruto manga fan are waiting for the answer of the Secret that Jiraiya passed down. Surely this is going to make the story more exciting and tense. The next chapter is going to left us a big impact if the code is really going to be decoded and we get to know it by then.
There isn't much I can comment about these few chapters as there isn’t any real development or connection that I can work or think of. We are presented with any main exploitation that we can really talk about.
Overall, this is just another boring chapter that disappointed some of us. Hopefully the next chapter will reveal the truth and no another chapter that dragging the story long. I know I'm being impatient here but I seriously think the process of decoding has to takes few chapters.
idk john, I thought they paced this out pretty well. Kishi could've given an entire chapter to Shikimaru helpin naruto outta his depression but instead he followed shikimaru from the start of his crack the code mission. Works for me.
But WTF are you on? How is there NO development? Naruto just got over the death of his teacher, not to mention his best bud! They were tight, and he just found out he died like the day before. What about shikimaru's development? We get so much of it, I guess its just getting ignored. Quit rushing the good part, fgts. Try reading it like you actually still enjoy the manga. Otherwise idk why you'd still post here... besides working on your critical opinion. And that sure is useful.
I'm glad they managed to get in one more great jiraiya joke, and shikimaru said troublesome, so overall a great chapter.
Xanbcoo I guess I missed that part too? lol I know tsunade said the frog captured a mist village ninja, didnt hear shit about gettin one of the bodies. You'd think that would be some vital info. Im gonna assume we're supposed to assume that another toad ate him too and managed to get away with it. Most likely right after jiraiya killed that one Pain he threw it into a toad, THEN had his throat caved in.
Hmmm I actually think that its a combination if the pages and words in Jiriya's latest book.
Page 9. Words 31.8
Page 106. Word 7
Page 207 Word 15
Or the Words could be just the letters.
Oh and I don't know how many if there is a proper alfabet for Kanji. If there is then it could be the 9th Kanji + the 31th and the 8th. That would make up a word and the same for the others.
Then again all we can do now is speculate.
After this chapter and the popular sentiment that the code is tied to Jiraiya's Come Come Paradise books, I think I am able to form a decent theory on the code's meaning.
106cm is Tsunade's bust size no doubt. It's simply a perv comment that was told to Kakashi. Obviously the secret to the code will not be found in Tsunade's breasts. But a perv comment can only mean that part of the code solution will be found in Jiraiya's Come Come Paradise books aka his perv books.
Since the only person who would observe that correlation would be Kakashi (being the avid fan of the Come Come Paradise series throughout the manga), Kakashi would be the only character who would be able to find the meaning to 106.
I feel like the 6 other numbers will follow the same route in that each of the 6 numbers will be figured out by 6 respective characters.
Naruto will probably be the next to crack the meaning of one of the remaining 6 numbers and 5 more characters, in the following chapters, will find meaning in the remaining 5 numbers, so on and so forth.
My conclusion is that each of the 7 numbers are sentimental to 7 people who are allied with the Leaf in some way and were close to Jiraiya in his lifetime.
One thing that's interesting is that there are 7 numbers and the number, '7', is one of the 7 numbers. Maybe someone here can confirm how many Peins there were if '7' is tied to that. If that is the meaning of '7', I will go ahead and say the other 6 numbers are sentimental to 6 characters allied to the Leaf and close to Jiraiya.
Hmmm naruto cracking a code... Seems like it but i'll believe it when i see it.
Enjoyed this chapter, looks like Naruto has finally cheered up and the code is getting cracked next week. Of course we don't know what it says until the fight with Pain but i'm still curious to see if it really is one of Jiraya's books. If it is it will probably be the first one that gave naruto his name and not the perverted ones.
Shikamaru is a chick magnet lol. Don't worry Xan i thaught it was Tsunade for a while too.
106.73 cm to be exact. What an amateur.Quote:
Originally Posted by unandpw
Tsunade's not fucking around either. "Don't be afraid to get...persuasive." You know what could make this kick so much ass? A chapter entirely on the "persuasion". Add some extra darkness to the shadows the manga's been casting as of late.
All i have to say is......Bravo jiraiya. Best scene in the anime/manga thus far. The complete randomness of that made my day.
That would be a miraculous feat if Jiraiya, in his last breath, wrote a series of numbers that pointed to specific words in his book that completely described Pain's secret.
Seriously, that would be some hardcore photographic memory shit right there.
"We're moving from the side who inherits to the side who leaves behind."
I would have really liked that line if it didn't come from a 16-17 year old.
why not?
in old times, people this age were already fathers.
that was the age of Iruka when the story started.
even today, most of the 'teachers' in extracuricular activities are teenagers, think about the scouts (age 16 has a group of kids aged 7) or some nurseries (girls who are 16 looking after younger kids)
16 is a good year as any to start acting like an adult, so why the hell not, espically shikamaru, who was born an old soul.
For all we know in the world of ninjas that isn't that big of a deal. And jiraya did write those books knowing they would be of vital importance in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Assertn
This is bad news. If it's up to Naruto to solve the puzzle, he's going to have to wait until he's 18 to read Jiraiya's last book. Or somehow get Kakashi to lend him his copy. But I think Kakashi uses it as masturbation material too much to do that.
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...1/page011.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
How many Japanese letters (in a relevant alphabet) does "Uchiha Madara" have? It has 6 syllables, but does it have any 'silent' letters?
Due to continuous intense battles between Jiraiya vs Pain and Itachi vs Sasuke, we all have forgotten about the secret scroll that 4th Hokage passed to Jiraiya before he died (I suppose so). Right before Jiraiya went into the battle with Pain, Jiraiya had passed the scroll to one of the frog. Surely, we can't underestimate the importance of this scroll. We know that the scroll contains the secret of unlocking the seal of the Kyuubi. Now Jiraiya is dead and he left us with a combination codes that we still not sure what is it. Will it relate to the scroll? This is a bit question I ask myself when I reviewed by previous chapters. I think it's almost time for Naruto to be stronger, not because I hope him so, but since the story has developed into this peak, it is an obvious call for Naruto to be stronger. As there is possibility that the codes relate to Naruto, this prove more us more that Naruto's time has comes and apparently we know a real heat battle is going to exploit.
Click the images to enlarge so that you can read better.
I was a bit surprise too when I read the part where Madara mentioned they still don't have enough power to suppress or attack Konoha. And I am not underestimate Konoha here but we are fully aware of how powerful Pain is and plus team Eagle with Madara, this is clear how Powerful they are now yet Madara still claimed they don't have enough power.
Again, it's not only a matter of power it's also a matter of numbers.
U can't go to war with a military nation with about 20 guys, even in the Naruto universe and , apparently, even with their enormous power.
Yeah, that is the reason Oro had to enlist the aid of the sand village when he attacked Konoha. Secondly we don't know what other secrets Konoha is hiding. Its obvious that they were ridiculously powerful and there was alot of stuff going on behind the scenes that the public and us readers don't know about. Madara just gave Sasuke a little example of what the Sengu are capable of and its reasonable to think that there is a lot he left out.
lol wtf? that guy posted exactly what's on this blog, grammar mistakes included:
http://naruto2talk.blogspot.com/
Do you at least own the blog john?
Anyway, i'm also curious to the reason why the fourth decided to seal the Nine-tails inside kyuubi.
Was that really the only way to defeat it? Apparently the first took out both madara and the nine tails and the fourth is said to be the greatest of all hokages.
Did he want Naruto to do something using that chakra? Does that mean that the rasengan isn't completed yet or something?
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Originally Posted by The Archangel
Yeah, john has been lingering around here for the last few weeks and does nothing but copy and paste his blog.
Most people just skip over his posts; you'll learn to do the same.
This has been discussed a few times already. Its been theorized that the kyuubi is too strong to be destroyed, and sealing it is the only way to keep it out of the control of Madara (or any other Uchiha). And I believe it was stated in the manga (by Jiraiya I think) that the 4th hoped Naruto would learn to control the kyuubi chakra and use it for good, or something like that. Probably had nothing to do with the Rasengan though.Quote:
Anyway, i'm also curious to the reason why the fourth decided to seal the Nine-tails inside kyuubi.
Was that really the only way to defeat it? Apparently the first took out both madara and the nine tails and the fourth is said to be the greatest of all hokages.
Did he want Naruto to do something using that chakra? Does that mean that the rasengan isn't completed yet or something?
The first defeated madara, but we don't know anything about him defeating the nine-tails. We know that he had the ability to control the bijuu and suppress them, so its more likely that he used that ability during his battle with Madara to make the nine-tails a non-factor.
We don't really know enough about Minato to doubt him being the greatest of the hokages and its not really fair to compare the first and the fourth based on encounters with the kyuubi.
The fourth did, however, sacrifice his life in order to finally get rid of the nine-tails and save the village. So, I'd say that alone is worthy enough of bestowing upon him the title of "great" in the Konoha history books.
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Originally Posted by Assertn
Well he is Asian.
Not only that, but he gave the village a Jinchuuriki, which seem to be Naruto-universe A-bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidnne
didn't all the villiages already have one?
after all, the two tails (the girl with spicy breath) was around 20, Gaara is around Naruto's age (probably older by a few months?) and the rest of the jinchuuriki are probably accomplished ninjas, well over puberity.
maybe Madare attaked the previous Jinchuuriki and released the kyuubi from the former host?
Well all the five major villages had a bijuu that doesn't necessarily mean they all had a jinchuuriki. For example Chiyo said that the first two Kazekages were jinchuuriki, but the only reason a jinchuuriki would be neccessary is if they are unable to control the bijuu without the use of one. The Sengu and the Uchiha both had means of controlling the Kyuubi without a Jinchuuriki so creating one wasn't necessary. Besides it was implied that the Kyuubi disappeared when Madara did and Jiraiya thought that when it attacked Konoha sixteen years ago it was summoned.
Uchiha Madara = うちは マダラQuote:
Originally Posted by poopdeville
One character for one syllable. Hiragana for Uchiha, katakana for Madara.
Asians have photographic memory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage
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Originally Posted by Assertn
You didn't know?
Asians are the pinnacle of human evolution Assertn...
As a fellow white guy you have to learn to deal with it.
Oh dear...no one's told you, have they?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Archangel
I'm not completely sold on the "page numbers" solution to Jiraiya's code. If it were 6 numbers, perhaps each number could refer to one of Pain's bodies. It's the 7th number that throws it off.
Though, this chapter hints heavily towards the page number theory, what with the "it's probably something someone close to Jiraiya would know about" thing. Kinda silly that half the internet has guessed the answer and even ninja "code breakers" are having a hard time with this. It's all about suspense with Kishimoto.
Or at least his ridiculous conception of it.
Lol come on at least give it a chance, it may not be the books.
I still think that Tsudade's measurements hide the key
Well the seventh doesn't really throw it off since Jiraiya did suspect that there was a seventh, Nagato's original body, controlling the others from somewhere else. Even if Pein only has six bodies I don't think there being a seventh number disrupts anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
You're not being serious right?Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
You're right. I had forgotten about Nagato's original body. I guess he could be out there acting as a puppet master somehow. At the very least, the bodies we saw before showed signs of having his memories. I wonder if the "identity" is any more complex than that. I hope it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abdula
Of course I'm being serious. It's retarded that Kishimoto has to make his characters so stupid and oblivious just so he can create "suspense" and put off a revelation for another few chapters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abdula
This was discussed quite a bit before you started reading the manga. My theory is that Pein's Rinnegan is a genjutsu eye that allows each to send what he sees into the others, P2P style. Pein is 6 (or 7) master shinobi, with one mind and will, and so perfect teamwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
Each of the bodies is probably a different elemental type. There is no puppet-master, exactly. Pein will live on, even if Nagato dies.
Oh dear god, I've figured it out.
It's the one thing closest to any man:
the size of his dick.
I mean c'mon, who memorizes letters on page numbers in porno books?
Each number must be a different unit of measurement.
Photographic memory isn't an evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Archangel
People who devote a larger portion of their brain to capturing data subsequently reserve a smaller portion of their brain to logic and reasoning.
This is why someone like Einstein had a notoriously bad memory, while that one guy that had been reported with the highest possible level of eidetic memory ended up in a mental hospital.
Well in DBZ, when the Asian people get mad they turn into a white man. Explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Archangel
You do have a point there. Anyway anyone interested in getting back to Naruto, this is kinda annoying.
No, I say we continue this into the next chapter thread.
Here's a good topic for discussion that came to me today:
Can anyone help me remember the last time the Sharingan was actually used to copy other Jutsu?
I'm much more interested in that than Jiraiya's dumb page-number code.
previous Sasuke fights list -
Itachi.
Deidara.
Naruto
Orochimaru (escape from crap pen)
Naruto (the river fight) before Naruto Z
the sound four
Hospital fight
Itachi fight
Gaara fight2
Gaara fight1
...
yep, I think we have nothing sense Lion combo. though it's just from my memory.
it's a well known fact that Sasuke is a complete, raging, flaming asshole that doesn't appriciate his luck and what he already has.
G
Pffft sharingan's way too powerful to be wasted on copying other techniques.
Actually, Chidori came right after the Lion Combo. So we have nothing since Chidori, which, when considering the potential of this particular aspect of the sharingan, is pretty sad. Maybe Kishi forgot about that part?Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
That's what I was insinuating, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidnne
Didn't Kakashi copy Kisame's Suikoudan no Jutsu when he, Asuma and Kurenai were fighting Kisame and Itachi.
Gaara fight 1: Not much to be copied since he's only using sand and i didn't see any seals to be copied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
Gaara fight 2: Basicly the same, not much to be copied.
Itachi fight: Not much to be copied except for some plain taijutsu, and only suffering tsukiyomi.
Hospital fight: Could copy shadow clone here, and the naruto combo if you're pushing it.
Sound four: Only taijutsu used on him, nothing to special.
Naruto river fight: Yet another chance to get shadow clones but that's it
Orochimaru: Who knows what techniques he copied during his stay, and in his fight with Oro, well you can hardly call it a fight since Oro was to busy getting his ass handed to him.
Naruto + Rest: Haven't seen a single technique from anyone he could copy, maybe Sai's painting technique.
Deidara: Don't know how the clay works but he seems to be molding without any seals and only uses seal to blow it up, so the way i see it he could only use the blow up seal on pieces of clay. Non moving parts.
Itachi: Again not much to copy since itachi really didn't use that many moves, mostly mangekyou based.
The way i look at it Sasuke somehow ended up fighting people that mostly use some kind of special technique or bloodline and there really isn't that much to copy. He really hasn't seen that many copyable things being used against him.
Well that is kinda the point isn't it. It you know you're going to be fighting the sharingan then using techniques you know can be copied would be down right stupid now wouldn't it. Everyone jounin level and above seems to develop their own unique and un-copyable techniques, if not a completely unique fighting style, and that is especially true when it comes to akatsuki members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darky
Well it has been said many times before but honestly I don't think he has forgotten it. Copying jutsus always seemed to me to be the least usefull of all the sharingan's abilities and the easiest one to defeat. Besides as Lee pointed out once your opponent reaches a certain level, jounin and above, copying techniques pretty much becomes a useless waste of chakra.Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
Copying techniques always seemed to me to be one of lower end of the sharingan's abilities which is why you only need two tomoe to be able to do it.
Sasuke didn't copy Chidori, he learned it from Kakashi. even if the process involved using the sharingan, it doesn't count as copying (at least no sharinganly-wise).
so, since copying the lion combo (around chapter 50?) he didn't copy any new technique. in some ways, it's as lame as Naruto.
really, he has the ability to stack up on skills at a rate that no one can rival. but he doesn't. that's being an ungrateful emo bitch.
but ofcourse, Sasuke has better things to do than be thankful for his incridable luck, like getting himself into deeper shit, and discard what others gave their life to give him.
Backtracking to the point about the fourth only being strong enought to seal the kyuubi vs. defeating it, i think that the only reason he probably didnt just outright fight it was for the same reason gaara lost to deidara in the sand village. I think that the fourth didnt want to end up destroying the village to stop the kyuubi. They did say that the fourth was the strongest ninja that konoha ever produced. And also with all this new info that we've found out about the first, lets not forget about how the third owned both him and the second with bunshins. So that old guy could still do some serious damage. And the fourth surpassed him during his prime.
It's not like i'm trying to defend him but as i stated in my previous post he didn't have a chance to copy any techniques in his fights. So how can he make use of that ability then if this is the case. For all we know he learned dozens of moves under Oro, seeing as how that would be beneficial to Oro as well for when he'd take over the body. Granted that he could've used those against either Deidara and Itachi but didn't then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
But i've still seen him use more new or atleast altered techniques then all of the rookie 9 and team gai combined after the time jump.
Actually, he copied Rock Lee's speed I think (although i think it was Kakashi who showed him, so Kakashi's speed...). But still, Kishimoto should have made more use of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
He actually copied Lee's Taijutsu, and Kakashi made him focus on speed training....Quote:
Originally Posted by Carnage
They explained that the sharingan "copies" techniques by giving you insight into the workings of the technique, so that the mental part (the understanding part) of learning a technique is out of the way. If the technique is so simple and easy to perform that you can do it as soon as you get it, then great, you've copied it as soon as you've seen it with the sharingan. But concerning Chidori, it probably wasnt very easy to do even if you get how it's done. So it took training to master it. So yeah, I'd say he "copied" chidori. Kage bunshin...he "copied" that too I'm sure, assuming this insight ability is passive with the sharingan activated.
Kakashi also copied Itachi's genjutsu that he used during the rescue gaara arc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusanagi
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. My point was that Kishimoto "forgot" (or changed, whatever) the fact that Sharingan was originally a copying eye-technique. That was the long and short of it. By introducing several different flavors of Mangekyou Sharingan and orchestrating the fights so that no Sharingan user could or would copy an opponent's jutsu, he's essentially written that part of the Sharingan away in lieu of ridiculously overpowered eye-hax-no-jutsu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abdula
Even the "Copy Ninja" Kakashi has lost his original gimmick and replaced it with a Mangekyou Sharigan that warps space and time, as Assertn has just pointed out.
First we're told that the Sharingan copies enemy jutsu, and that was cool. Several hundred chapters later we're being told that it can also control the Kyuubi. It's a pretty telling example of how the series has progressed over the years. Sorry for going so off-topic, everyone.
I dont know, they did have restrictions on the Sharingan early on, I mean from the first time Sasuke used it against Haku we knew that he wouldnt be able to copy the move because it was a bloodline limit. And of course the person narrating the Sharingan's Abilities at that time was Sakura, and Kakashi, so maybe neither of them knew about MS or any of the other stuff at that time. Either that or Kakashi thought that it was too soo to train Sasuke on that stuff. Ya never know in the Naruto-verse. I just want the new chapter to come out so I know what the code is!
That is true but its not only limited to the sharingan though, he has done that with almost every other element of the series. As you said its just how the show has progressed. Some time ago we had a discussion in one of the threads comparing DBZ and Naruto, that was before Masa came in and put an end to it though, atleast I think it was him.Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo