True Tears

Surprising how there isn't a thread on this yet...

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Shinichiro is a student living in what would be a dream come true for most high school boys, but for him is mostly a frustration. A well liked girl in school named Hiromi has lived in his house for a year along with his family. Her father was a close friend of the family, and when he died they immediately took her in. She is popular and well liked, always smiles, is talented in sports- but Shinichiro knows there must be tears inside her. Having an artistic tendency, he makes watercolours of her and thinks about wishing to ease her tears. Yet he cannot bring up the nerve to talk to her even in his own home. She, too, is quiet and withdrawn in their house, quite unlike at school. Shinichiro is also distracted by teasing from his friend Nobuse for watching Hiromi from afar, a curse of bad luck from a strange girl named Noe, and being forced to perform Muhiga dancing. By helping Noe he hopes to ease his own problems, yet he seems to have difficulty helping himself.
(source: ANN)

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Ep 1 (Xvid) - Bakawolf & m33w
Ep 1 (h264) - Bakawolf & m33w
Ep 1 (1280x720) - Rozen & NiceBoat (??)
Ep 1 (704x400) - Rozen & NiceBoat

I watched the 720p version by Rozen & NiceBoat (wtf kind of name is this?) and was fairly pleased with the release. Picture is sharp and vivid. Translations make sense. Nothing outstandingly bad with it. As for the series, don't know what to make of this. It certainly has its mysterious moments like H2O, but with some cookie cutter romance elements. I thought it was a nice first episode and with the series being only 13 episodes long, the story should pick up fairly quickly.

Aye. I got the impression it's somewhere between a triangle of Yourself; Myself, Kanon, and H2O. It seems to have some rought elements like Yourself Myself, it has some out of the blue lines like Kanon, and some mystery like H2O. It looked far more promising than I was expecting. I thought it would be a textbook high-school romance.

This season seems to be offering a pretty good selection of shows, all in all.

Actually, its more like Myself Yourself and KimiKiss combined.

I don't know if it was being exhausted or agitated while I watched this but I got very little out of the first ep. The main character likes a 'perfect' girl but won't go for her b/c he's scared, then he meets another girl who is kind of weird but doesn't present any romantic interest and they strike up an awkward friendship, both girls seem to be hiding things...the end. So far it just feels like mad libs of other school romance anime. I'll give it a few more eps to see if it's going anywhere new, but I haven't felt this neutral about a first ep in a while.

The animation is pretty high. First episode wasn't bad I guess, like Yuki said it's kinda generic.

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The animation is pretty high. First episode wasn't bad I guess, like Yuki said it's kinda generic.

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It seems there are many experiments.
Zoom out scenes with leds computer animated
Noe's excuses to the chicken, with close-up on her mouth and it seemed they tried to animate the mouth as close as possible to reality.
And the 720p resolution is clearly a big plus. I wish we had more of those.

Perfect girls are weird girls:

Episode 2 h264 - BakaWolf-m.3.3.w
Episode 2 xvid - BakaWolf-m.3.3.w

Interesting, especially at the end. The only normal reason I can come up with for Hiromi trying to make friends would be to ascertain the relationship between Noe and Shin'ichiro in order to try and make her own move. But then, there doesn't have to be a normal reason and she might have simply wanted to be a bitch to Noe for talking to her man.

hmmm will there be a 720p version from rozen&niceboat soon?

That's what I'm waiting for.

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That's what I'm waiting for.

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Well If I analyse this:
http://a.scarywater.net/rozen/
It seems the group is either young, or does not have a lot of members, or isn't very efficient @ keeping members.... or whatever reasons explaining why they do first eps and don't push any further.

That kinda sucks. Their first ep for True Tears was pretty good.

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That kinda sucks. Their first ep for True Tears was pretty good.

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Lets hope the NiceBoat suffix will help them in making the whole season.
Although the Fallen prefix didn't help for Myself-Yourself.

EDIT:
In fact the BakaWolf-M33W release in in HD, I just had the time to start it now and wanted to tell you BoC ;)

Interesting development so far. I like where this is going.

waaahaa... i want my 720p back 8[

this series is so nice... however what is this "I need you to collect tears for me" thing and all that stuff about.. what is Noe trying to do? i don't understand that girl at all

Shinichiro did even dream about here at the beginning of the first episode when he was talking about something like "i want to make a necklace out of your tears and hang it around a tree" and then this girl (Noe) shows up in his mind looking up a large tree... hm..hmm...

the first episode was weird anyways.. after the scene with the bathroom he grabbed for the handkerchief-box i thought he's going to masturbate but he just made his masterpiece of art: "the chicken box"

This is the only new show I'm watching the second half and I'm also not a very big person on this type of anime and I have to say, I'm loving it. Very satisfied so far.

Those in hurry could have watched it already a while ago, but I prefer the h264 releases these days.

Episode 3 h264 - BakaWolf-m.​3.​3.​w
Episode 3 xvid - BakaWolf-m.​3.​3.​w

poor shin ichiro... why didn't he run away to avoid the "i-just-heard-what-you-said-about-me-so -I-will-rape-you-at-night" scene :/

next episode will be interesting!

btw how many episodes does this series have? i hope ~25... but because of the quality i think there arn't more than 12..

I guess he was too much in a shock to have run away immediately. I doubt he predicted Hiromi would right away come his way after saying those words.

It was interesting development to say the least. Shinichiro was Hiromi's ally in the family, with his mother disliking the fact Hiromi is there and the father probably ending up being somewhat neutral in order to not piss off either side. I wonder how it will go on from now on. Although Shinichiro doesn't look like a scumbag who would now make things hard for her, but who knows what's going to happen. She was his dream girl after all.

I'm really liking this series :) All the characters are likable (I have a soft spot for Noe, weird + cute = funny), the story is kinda laid-back and relaxing, and the animation is great.

For Shinichiro, I guess in a way, if he wanted to be with Hiromi, he should've done it a lot sooner. I don't know if it has been mentioned, but it seems to me that they have been living together for quite a while now, yet they're not really close. That probably gave Hiromi the impression that he was not interested in developing some sort of friendship or the likes.

Well, let's just wait for ep4 and see what happens ^_^

Hiromi obviously likes Shinichiro. She is just holding back because they are living together. While Im not sure about it, the stuff in the show indicate that this is the case.

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Hiromi obviously likes Shinichiro. She is just holding back because they are living together. While Im not sure about it, the stuff in the show indicate that this is the case.

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To me she wanted to keep this a secret for her comrade. She maybe wanted is to blossom in her private garden (her dreams and desire) and let Sinichiro grow with it too.
So she came up with the guy that would be loved by many girls around, because it was easy to think that name and that would sound normal. Although in that case, he comrade wasn't such a fool and knew that the womanizer choice sounded clearly wrong in Hiromi's speech.
Sinichiro just happened to be there at the worst possible moment, which is very common in anime.

That doesnt seem to be the case since she denied remembering the childhood event before, which serves no purpose other than to put distance between them. Why would she do so? Only one thing comes to mind right now, which is the only drastic change that has happened in their relationship, specifically living together. What is it about living together that may cause her reaction is anybody's guess. Maybe the mother is involved somehow.

Couldn't the reason why she is acting all indifferent and cold be because she herself feels that she has changed because of the incident with her family. We don't know much about who she was before the incident, only that she cared a great deal for shinichiro.

As for her not remembering I am pretty certain she lied about that part. She seemed very hesistant when answering.

And her moving in being the only drastic change is very one sided. Of course, for him that is one big change, but for her maybe her family dying is a tad bigger.

Of course she was lying. That is why I said "denied" that she remembered. That is pretty clear from her comment right after the flashback.

As for the change, it can be the death of her family, but I dont see why such an event would make a relationship between them impossible or undesirable.

She really is just acting indifferent and cold. She obviously still cares about Shinichiro as seen from the events of the last episode. Its almost as if she is trying to convince herself otherwise. Her feelings arent even in question here, but rather why she doesnt want to show them.

Yeshu, sorry for the missinterpretation. I would like to reserve any guesses about why she is acting indifferent because so far I think we know too little about her, the series has still mostly shown Shinichiros view of the situation.

Indifference and coldness, whether assumed or truthful, can be just as disastrous:

Episode 4 h264 - BakaWolf-m.3.3.w
Episode 4 xvid - BakaWolf-m.3.3.w

And a nigga thank you to you too. Just what I need on a Sunday afternoon before a week of midterms...

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I like the calmness of this series. And how the characters stop to think and ponder every now and then (even Noe who certainly represents the active and unpredictable kind of personality in this series).

There's some manner of melancholy in this series.

I would've said the same thing that Shinichiro said to Hiromi.

nice episode.. nice series..

there isn't a single character which i don't like and i love this very(!) detailed animation.. it's really great even though the facial-expressions are made so simple and plain (3 blue dashes or a big white drop), but they actually fit in and really manage to lighten up the mood a bit.
jeez.... i can't decide which series is better.. Spice and Wolf or True Tears, hmmm..

True Tears is definitively one of the more "realistic" series out there.. with some little exceptions it really feels like this could happen everyday or just 3 blocks away from your own house :P

i think the reason for that lies within shinchirou and the reactions of everyone..they are somehow just "normal" they do things you would do yourself to and might even think the way you do..
for example aiko and miyokishi.. i wonder what will happen if he finds out that aiko likes shinchirou... aiko doesn't really want to be with miyokishi but she also doesn't want to hurt his feelings (not only because he is shinchirous best friends)
oh man i simply can't wait for the next episodes... i want to find out what will happen next and how the character-relationship will develop itsself.

the shopping part was also very funny... at least for me.. "how do i look in that?" - "oh good.. take it" - "how do i look now!?" - "good take it (not paying attention anymore)" and then when you yourself pick something for her because she asked you to, "wtf? are you mad?"

and is it just me or does somebody else think that they are using some new "camera"-angles? these close-ups, over-the-shoulder shots and "ego-perspective" are really rarley used normally... and its really rare to pay so much attention to the background, they really go into the detail here.. i havn't seen that very often, only in "the melachony of Haruhi" to be directly.

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and is it just me or does somebody else think that they are using some new "camera"-angles? these close-ups, over-the-shoulder shots and "ego-perspective" are really rarley used normally... and its really rare to pay so much attention to the background, they really go into the detail here.. i havn't seen that very often, only in "the melachony of Haruhi" to be directly.

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I you watch carefully, it seems computers are used quite a lot for this series.
It's nice for background, bacground characters movements*, different shades of colors, lighting, clouds, skies,cars and so on.

All in all I have to say that it's done in a way you don't get distracted or would even think it was'nt computer assisted.
However there's my asterisk mark *
People while walking, when they are in the background or when a scene is on a very wide angle, look very robot like. In fact I guess that it's the movement that is the most intrusive, the most eye catching from what is done, and a tad annoying because I keep remarking it.
But their technics improve the image and experience so much that I thank them for trying anything ;)

Back to the story:
Shinichiro is wrong. Hiromi may think of another guy than him. However that doesn't mean the tears he felt with the imagination of his true heart (paraphrasing Noe) are gone or never existed.
However this is a bit tricky with what we have yet. Because after all the tears Shinichiro sees in Hiromi's could be his... I mean we tend to see in others what we have inside, be it wrath, pain or bad habits for example. He may have been a bit shochked when Hiromi lost her mother, for whatever reason. Or he's sad that Hiromi isn't really in a happy household with his mother after her. It seems that Shinichiro's mother holds a grudge against himori's, and that she makes Hiromi pay.

I don't know what to think about Aiko and Miyokichi, other than they are there to emphasize love misunderstandings.
However here's the love line: Miyokichi has feelings for Aiko. But Aiko has feelings for Shinichiro. But Shinichiro has feelings for Hiromi, But Hiromi has feelings for Noe's Brother. But Noe's Brother would like Shinichiro to go out with his sister (Noe).

Regarding that Brother, I wonder what was that helmet scene for. He wanted to caress his sister's face, but it felt no that right. It also seems that they are not real brother and sister. Maybe an adoption? because he even emphasized how much he doesn't ressemble Noe in front of Shinichiro.

Well, all in all, when I watch True Tears, the ep seems like running too quickly, when everything seems so slow compared to many series. That's a big plus.

a big problem with this series is that it only has 13 episodes (if i m right).. since it is such a great story they should have made it like 25 episodes long...however when they do that then the animation will suffer (which i dont want to happen!!!)

but isn't it somehow weird that hiromi is so open to shinchiro now? i know that she is very carefree at school but actually at home she was so shy in the first 3 episodes and shinchiro really had a hard time just talking to her... now its quiet the opposite and all because he overheard something?.. (btw they somehow destroyed the cliffhanger from episode 3... i exceptet something much more dramatic :( )

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a big problem with this series is that it only has 13 episodes (if i m right).. since it is such a great story they should have made it like 25 episodes long...however when they do that then the animation will suffer (which i dont want to happen!!!)

but isn't it somehow weird that hiromi is so open to shinchiro now? i know that she is very carefree at school but actually at home she was so shy in the first 3 episodes and shinchiro really had a hard time just talking to her... now its quiet the opposite and all because he overheard something?.. (btw they somehow destroyed the cliffhanger from episode 3... i exceptet something much more dramatic :( )

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Yes, I forgot to mention Hiromi had something to tell Shinichiro, and she never had the time to due to Shinichiro's reactions, then Shinichiro's mother.

Dang it.... Licensed by Bandai, so m33w is dropping it.

ANN

Although it'll be soon, DVDs will be expensive. First episode is $30, each next disc will have 2 eps for $40.

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Dang it.... Licensed by Bandai, so m33w is dropping it.

ANN

Although it'll be soon, DVDs will be expensive. First episode is $30, each next disc will have 2 eps for $40.

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Would the price be a consequence of the art quality discussed before?
Or maybe a smaller fanbase that doesn't allow to reduce costs thanks to quantity?

I suspect the cost is based solely on the speed. I think two months from end of Japanese broadcast to English (subbed) DVD availability is fairly unprecedented.

Still, it's always impressed me how paying large numbers of people to work 40+ hours a week gets so much slower results than letting people work on it for free whenever they feel like it. But I don't know maybe most of the time isn't spent translating, subbing and re encoding, but on making pretty packages and printing DVD's....

As per the norm the price is completely prohibitive, in fact i'm amazed they posted something so ridiculous along with the announcement that they'd licensed it. Why would anyone in their right mind pay $30 for a single subbed 24 min episode of an anime they've never seen? Or drop $270 for a 13 episode series of any quality level...I don't care how pretty the art is, that's just ridiculous (and Shigofumi doesn't even have the pretty art True Tears does).

Anyway, if m.3.3.w won't continue maybe one of the other 3 groups subbing it will. I wonder if you can C&D a group with no website, I can't imagine it would be very easy.

30$ for 1 epsiode?

wait a sec... how much does it cost if you go to the cinema its about 5-10€ here? i don't know the course at the moment but isnt 1$ around 0,7€ ?

so i have to pay like 21€ for 24 mins of animated pictures?
i can go 3 times to the cinema for that, or buy 2 new movie-DvD's which have like 360 minutes playtime (if merged together)

do animes always cost this much? i always thought its about ~50€ (+-20) for the whole package. (similiar to the cost of a new computer game)

Well if I go thursday it's $2.50 for the movies, so that's 12 major films I could see before I see the first ep of True Tears.

Sucks, like usual they're only catering to people who make 5 times my income.

Lets see, buy 20-some eps of Heroes for $44 or 13 eps of True Tears for double the car payment, hmm.

They're in the business of making money, not entertaining people.

What about Rozen-NiceBoat? Would they also be dropping it? They're a no-name group but with surprisingly good quality so far.

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30$ for 1 epsiode?

wait a sec... how much does it cost if you go to the cinema its about 5-10€ here? i don't know the course at the moment but isnt 1$ around 0,7€ ?

so i have to pay like 21€ for 24 mins of animated pictures?
i can go 3 times to the cinema for that, or buy 2 new movie-DvD's which have like 360 minutes playtime (if merged together)

do animes always cost this much? i always thought its about ~50€ (+-20) for the whole package. (similiar to the cost of a new computer game)

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It's true that I didn"t even do the math about that price.
I wonder what they are thinking.
It quite pricey, the best way from keeping people from buying it. Nice marketing strategy.
Unless there's a mistake in the news or somewhere.

ep 5 out

www.tokyotosho.com

Haha, so I guess w00f is the new m33w?

Man, I gotta say. This episode sure made the series take a bad turn. It seems the series have been taking a step forward in every step, but this episode made it feel like the story is now moving backwards a few steps.

shinta|hikari and Shinji Ikari

/confused

He's a sad copy, I was here before him.... 3 years before in fact :P

I knew his name looked familiar when I first saw it show up. So it was you.

As for the episode, I didn't quite understand the lunch part with Hiromi and Noe. Why did Noe decide to befriend Hiromi all of a sudden? It seemed kind of random.

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I knew his name looked familiar when I first saw it show up. So it was you.

As for the episode, I didn't quite understand the lunch part with Hiromi and Noe. Why did Noe decide to befriend Hiromi all of a sudden? It seemed kind of random.

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She probably needs to get near Hiromi, to better understand Shinichiro for her goal.

And additionally she might be weird enough that when Shinichiro says girls eat their lunch with their friends (female), she then has to go and see what it's like to do that.

Oka, Hiromi is Shin'ichiro's half sister... The poor mom, no wonder she hates her so much. Having the testament to your husbands infidelity living under the same roof wth you and eating your food and derailing your son has to bite.

With that out of the way it now becomes a struggle between Ai, who's with his best friend, and Noe, who he doens't really like like that. But there's still hope that we'll get an awesome incest angle anyway, since he clearly likes Hiromi the best and his mom probably won't tell him, but we'll find out next ep when she tells Hiromi.

@BoC and Shinji - Lol. At least I have more posts despite appearing 3 years later. And I have to wonder who the "sad copy" really is considering shinji ikari is a complete replication of an anime character name.

Even if she is the half sister, it seems that she really likes Shinichiro as well, judging from her reaction.

EDIT: Still, Im hoping that is not the case. Hiromi would just be too pitiful if that were so.

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Oka, Hiromi is Shin'ichiro's half sister... The poor mom, no wonder she hates her so much. Having the testament to your husbands infidelity living under the same roof wth you and eating your food and derailing your son has to bite.

With that out of the way it now becomes a struggle between Ai, who's with his best friend, and Noe, who he doens't really like like that. But there's still hope that we'll get an awesome incest angle anyway, since he clearly likes Hiromi the best and his mom probably won't tell him, but we'll find out next ep when she tells Hiromi.

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They seem to go that way, letting us think that Hiromi is Shinichiro's half sister.
They displayed the fact very obviously, so I will just be a tad suspicious and wait for a very clear statement. Because I can't see why Shinichiro's father would impose such a living tho his wife. Unless she's involved in some way in Hiromi's mother death... but that doesn't fit with what we've seen of the show up to now.
I admitt however it's the most obvious way, I probably don't need to stretch anything ;)

True Tears - 06 (1280x720) H264 - [w.0.0.f]
True Tears - 06 XviD - [w.0.0.f]

Lol, not that it was that hard to predict but I still like being right.

I wouldn't mind if it's also true. Hiromi is a kind of passive emo girl. Maybe this will allow Shinichiro to grow some distance between his feeling and Hiromi and get together with Noe. She's a pretty bizarre and funny character. Although to be totally honest I somehow doubt this was the only "surprise" this series will deal out and the rest of the series would just smoothly flow to some safe harbour. Who knows what could still happen.

this is all so weird.. actually i wanted hiromi and shinichiro come together in the end but now it would feel weird if they really do...

i hope it will be revealed at sometime that hiromi isn't his half sister (it seems that shinichiro's mother only thinks that this is the case)

i've to disagree with hiromi being an emo girl... she's actually pretty normal, but shy at shinichiro's place becuase she is hated by shinichiro's mother, she's acting like a guest who is not welcome and thats pretty normal, i would feel the same way.

So...Hiromi and Shinichiro are actually twins? That would mean Shinichiro's "mother" isn't his mother at all. How come she doesn't treat Shinichiro like shit?

Where did you get twins from? She said her birthday was later, which would mean that they weren't born on the same day making them not twins.


Something else that I forgot to comment on that I found interesting...Noe is not just a little bit obsessive though Shin'Ichoiro isn't really into her, Shin'ichiro's friend had that crazy guy look when Ai admitted she liked Shin'ichiro, Hiromi is under a lot of stress since che is always dumped on by the mom and she's get mxed up feelings. All these elements together could easily lead to a situation of potentially School Days levels of win (or fail, depending on your perspective).

I thought she said her birthday was "a few minutes" later. Maybe I misread it. I deleted the file already...

i don't know what she said in japanese but it was subbed with "since my birthday is later, that makes you the big brother" (or something like that)

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i don't know what she said in japanese but it was subbed with "since my birthday is later, that makes you the big brother" (or something like that)

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Since they are in the same class I would think they are the same age. But that doesn't mean their twins, it might just mean that Shin-san's daddy had a busy year. And on that note, Hiromi wasn't sure about them being siblings, there is a chance they might be, but not certain... I hope they are not, it would just be too weird being siblings and also being romantically involved (which I hope will be the case at the end of this run)... Although that outcome seems very remote at the moment since doing a paternal test in an anime just seems too weird to ever happen.

I wonder what happened with the encode.
The video seemed a bit blurry on the edges.
The sound was clearly a problem with trebles going to metallic compression.

Everything other than that was already written

Fake Tears - 07 [Abridged Version]- [m.3.0.w] - (NOTE: MASSIVE COCKTEASE/SPOILER)

This is essentially a commercial made of a couple scenes from episode 07 with semi-serious subs, however what it reveals is so epic I wanted to share. Watch at your own risk, but I'll tell you that I think a Nice Boat ending is looking more and more possible!

True Tears 07 XVID

True Tear 07 H264 HD

It's beggining to become a little too complicated for my One Neuron Brain...

I'll try to think about it after a good night of sleep, it's beggining to be late... and work will be harsh tomorrow.

Have fun with this ep!

I like where this is going right now. It might end with Hiromi, I suppose that would be kind of traditional, but for now I can still believe Noe will be the winner. She's the most interesting of the three. Hiromi could quit her sulking and become a decent sister.

I don't think they'll ever get over the fact that they're siblings. It's too much to overcome.

Ugh, Ai just ruined any chance she had of getting with Shinichiro. I was routing her in this too.

what the hell....

Noe wins the "cuteness" award
Ai wins the "i feel so sad for her" award
Miyokichi wins the "poor guy award"Shinichirō wins the "haha you are owned!" award
Hiromi wins the "i can't come up with another award" award
but she definitively wins something because i like her somehow


man,Shinichirō is in a reaaaaaally bad situation right now, 3 nice girls are longing for him (well 2 girls are to be exact, but its clear that Hiromi likes him too) i can't possible imagine the winner of Shinichirō heart right now.

Miyokichi has cleary lost his girlfriend to his best(!) friend now, but he knows that he can't be angry with Shinichirō because he never intended to take Ai away from him. It's good that he understands that.

its such a mess..... and i totally like it! awesome! outragoues! gorgeous! awkward! unbelievable! more,more,more!
i love it!

btw whats this "hey are you hungry?" - "no i don't feel like eating now.." - " OH MY GAWD, YOU SHOULD GO TO THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW!" about? its always funny to see that reaction in a anime when someone declines a request for eating something together.

edit: btw, this anime is licensed in the US right? what happens to me if i, who lives in germany, keep downloading this anime? is it actually legal or illegal??

Is´ nicht legaler oder illegaler als bisher ;)

@topic:

Decided to watch this series, episode 1 yesterday, the rest up to episode 7 just now.

First of all, once again i have to say something about girls in "such" anime: I cannot stand (well, i can, since i watch it, but you get it) the behaviour of girls in all those romantic anime series. Be it Myself Yourself, Clannad, School Days or now this one.

I mean, i LOVE how they behave, but it´s just too unrealistic, in about any way. Girls in real life simply arent THAT cute and most importantly, obedient.
I´d love to know such girls, but i dont, and even then i doubt that about every Japanese girl is like that, which these anime shows at least imply.

Back to True Tears:

It´s enjoyable, but it lacked that something "special" within the first few episodes. Well, now it seems we´re having 2 cases of incest and one real bitch.
Really, im near tears with poor Miyokichi. I mean...WHY?!!?!?!?!
He´d do ANYTHING for stupid bitch Ai-chan, but she...betrays him.
Wah!
It´s the worst when nice guys lose.
The bad thing is, that most likely, Ai-chan will be rejected by Shinichiro, then realizes how nice Miyokichi acutally was and returns to him...and the poor fool even will accept that kind of dirty play. :-(

Its a miracle but I actually agree with you about Ai-chan. Betraying miyokichi makes me lose all respect for her. I really dont understand the "go out with the bestfriend to get close to the one you like" strategy anyway. It doesnt make much sense. Getting swept away by the situation has its limits, and she clearly went over and above those when he agreed to date miyokichi (who is an incredibly nice guy, nicer than the main character IMHO).

The reason why they make harem shows is exactly because girls dont behave like that in real life. Its much like satisfying the fantasy for the viewers. Making it too realistic defeats the purpose.

Btw, is the opening song available as download? i like it ;)

Sure it is.

OP Single - Nipponsei

Ah, thanks much!

Also, when is usually the day a new episode is released?

Regarding Ai-Chan, it's only normal the way she reacts with miyokichi...
Because she doesn't even realize how serious he is. She probably even doesn't care much about him. She likes him as the guy who is the friend of the one she loves. It doesn't go further than this.

It's only a bit too late she realizes and is mad "Because he is too nice". It only backfires at her that she also is careless about someone with feelings, as much as Shinichiro is with her.

But honestly, if someone love you, but you have no feelings for them, there's not much you can do, except trying to cut links the quickest way... but that's only possible once you are aware of the "problem".
There's no way you would go further than "friendship" towards someone you have no more feelings than friendship.

So I do not feel Ai-chan is a bitch, rather she only came to realize what goes thru Miyokichi's mind and sees the mess she's in. It's still time to stop things abruptly, so that no deep scar remain.

@MFauli w.0.0.f usually releases sometime on the Sunday after it airs.

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so its a greyzone? i was caught for downloading music yesterday..... 6000 euros (if i m very unlucky)... yaaaaaaa..... (and no its not a fake "cease-and-desist warning" or something like that, its real 8[) you probably heard about "clemens rasch" before....

god i m so stupid. *sob*

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Decided to watch this series, episode 1 yesterday, the rest up to episode 7 just now.

First of all, once again i have to say something about girls in "such" anime: I cannot stand (well, i can, since i watch it, but you get it) the behaviour of girls in all those romantic anime series. Be it Myself Yourself, Clannad, School Days or now this one.

I mean, i LOVE how they behave, but it´s just too unrealistic, in about any way. Girls in real life simply arent THAT cute and most importantly, obedient.
I´d love to know such girls, but i dont, and even then i doubt that about every Japanese girl is like that, which these anime shows at least imply.

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well thats the good thing in animes.... you see things which you normaly won't in real life :P

yet, i don't know how women act in japan... i heard that they are very respectful towards elder persons especially men, on the other hand, i don't know if it is true but that is what you see normally in nearly every movie or anime with japanese people in it.
(the "all girls love 1 man" plot is unrealistic :P but i m not sure if it is the same with the behavior)

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Back to True Tears:

It´s enjoyable, but it lacked that something "special" within the first few episodes. Well, now it seems we´re having 2 cases of incest and one real bitch.
Really, im near tears with poor Miyokichi. I mean...WHY?!!?!?!?!
He´d do ANYTHING for stupid bitch Ai-chan, but she...betrays him.
Wah!
It´s the worst when nice guys lose.
The bad thing is, that most likely, Ai-chan will be rejected by Shinichiro, then realizes how nice Miyokichi acutally was and returns to him...and the poor fool even will accept that kind of dirty play. :-(

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i don't think Ai-chan is a bitch, its just that she doesn't love him so much as she does shinichiro..
and on the other hand she doesn't really betray him, she already tried to tell Miyokichi 2 or 3 times that she doesn't "love" him, but Miyokichi doesn't want to hear that

i read somewhere that miyokichi is "more nicely" than shinichiro, i can't find it now but i m pretty sure someone said it (lol....), i don't think that's the case... shinichiro is a very nice person and even miyokichi says that, its not his fault that the women react the way they do, he tries his best to understand everyones feelings and positions and you can see clearly that he doesn't want to take Ai-chan away from miyokichi or anything like that and he doesn't go out with Noe because of her brother. He WANTS to go out with her because he feels something towards her.

its just a mess there right now, which is the thing i like about this series... its all so weird... nobody wants to hurt someones feelings but they can't avoid that.
Because of this, i can't wait for the next episode to come... i want to know what happens next and who will be the "winner" and what happens to the one who lost?
i m pretty sure that i'll cry in the end 8[

btw, why "2" cases of incest?

hiromi + shinichiro... and who else? Noe and her brother Oo?

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so its a greyzone? i was caught for downloading music yesterday..... 6000 euros (if i m very unlucky)... yaaaaaaa..... (and no its not a fake "cease-and-desist warning" or something like that, its real 8[) you probably heard about "clemens rasch" before....

god i m so stupid. *sob*

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Wtf, dude >_<
Why do you download music, anyway. Of course that´s illegal anywhere in the world. Auweia...

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btw, why "2" cases of incest?

hiromi + shinichiro... and who else? Noe and her brother Oo?

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Of course.
I mean...how her brother had to held himself back from touching Noe´s face in that once scene...i dont doubt that there´s somthing on the way.

And i disagree with those who defend Ai-chan. She knew that she loved Shinichiro already when she accepted Miyokichi´s begging of going with him. At that point she should have declined Miyokichi, or even revealed her love for Shinichiro. Well, i dont know, but from what we saw it looks like they´re a couple for quite some time already, so the point of return is long overdue. I cant see Ai-chan as anything else than a bitch, sorry.

Oh, and i hate Shinichiro´s mum. Whatever there happened in the past, it´s got NOTHING to do with Hiromi, who´s just a nice girl. I hate such stupid people, who take their rage towards a honest person.

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Wtf, dude >_<
Why do you download music, anyway. Of course that´s illegal anywhere in the world. Auweia...

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no its not, it was ilegal to share your files (i forgot to decline the share-request one day, and thats when they caught me...
since 1.1.2008 downloading is also prohibited.. but before only upload was not alowed and my lawyer confirmed it.

to the "hate mom" part...

yes i agree.... the thing i hate the most about her is that she keeps saying "you look like your mother" "your face is that of your mothers" WTF? WHO CARES?.

The reason why Ai-chan is a bitch is because she agreed to go out with Miyokichi knowing full well that she likes Shinichiro (and a lot for that matter)

well but its not like she played with his feelings..

she didn't want to hurt his feelings, well she made the wrong decision but i can't blame her for that.... maybe she thought that shinichrio is unreachable and wanted to try things out.

If you say you'll go out with someone and continue to let them think you're their girlfriend (by not denying it) then you are playing with their feelings.

She doesn't seem dense enough to not know how he felt about her, and he looked pretty shocked when she told him that she didn't return his feelings. Whatever her reasons for not telling him, she was wrong to willfully let him keep thinking something that wasn't the case. If she was trying to spare his feelings of figure out her own I can understand, but I don't think that absolves her of blame for the deception.

Exactly.

Something that wasn't the case:

Episode 8 h264 - w.0.0.f
Episode 8 xvid - w.0.0.f

Im about to start this series, anyone recommend a particular sub group?

Just what I have been waiting for all day. Nigga thank you.

Ruh roh. Is Hiromi doing what I think she's doing in the preview? Feels like another Kimi ga Nozomu Eien reenactment.

Hiromi is getting kind of poisonous. But it looks like she noticed it and wants to leave the house before she really becomes a bad person. However, it's hard to see where else she could go just like that.

I like Noe more and more, episode by episode. She's an awesome character. The kind of person who always would make you inspired and happy and above all make sure there doesn't exist a boring moment. I say inspired also because she thinks out of the box and that should be important for anybody doing creative work.

But seeing how there are still some episodes left I wouldn't be surprised if Noe gets her tears by being left behind, and Shinichiro chooses the moody Hiromi who makes sure there won't be a single entirely happy and bright day in his life and darkness always looms in the corners ready to make an appearance.

I thought the motorcycle would slip and hit Noe on the way, putting her into a coma.

KGNE: True Tears

@TheBladeChild: Rozen-NiceBoat for keeping, w.0.0.f is fine for watching.

EDIT @Below: Fixed.

I think you meant to address TheBladeChild...

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I thought the motorcycle would slip and hit Noe on the way, putting her into a coma.

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ninomiya-kun!


btw, who was that boy in the end? (the one fighting with shinichrio? its not someone we know yet or am i wrong?)

oh man i wish this series had more episodes than just 12... :(

Ah, all the things that are about to happen...

From the looks, if Hiromi and Ai-chan would let go, there could be a happy end soon. Nut it seem we´re on for a nice tragedy, started by Hiromi (suicid attempt?), and im sure an Ai-chan arc will follow. Blah...

Though Hiromi really seemed bitter in this episode...i see potential in her becoming a Katsura ;)

actually.... i still want hiromi and shinichiro to get together, but then on the other side, i don't want a sad Noe..

what shall i dooo what can i doooo...hohoo *sob*
(other than waiting for another week and episode of course)

and then there is a crying Ai-chan too... Shinichiro, go and use Kage-Bushin!

I do not really like the association Noe does beetween Shinichiro and Raigomaru.
Cause she's the instinctive one, the one connected to the elements, and it may be a very bad omen for Shinichiro who could be killed before he's able to fly into the sky...

Well, but if you think about it, Shinichiro and Noe would be the only way this series could end with a happy end.

Shinichiro + Noe
Miyokichi + Ai
"Brother" + Hiromi

So, if Shinichiro chooses anyone else, someone will be sad...well, Miyokichi could go with Noe or Hiromi, and Brother with Ai, but that would be out of nowhere.

well maybe someone dies by "accident" xD

and its not like animes always have a happy end... most of the time, the endings are so fucked up and weird that it makes my cry (sometimes for real and sometimes because it is a very bad and stupid ending.~~)

since hiromi goes to a town "where it doesn't snow" she probably went to africa(on a scooter)..noe,ai-chan,shinichiro,Miyokichi follow them and you know in africa.... there is polygamy ^^

oh wait, they don't have to go that far! they could go to india or new zealand(?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._world_map.png

perfect happy end! "free love" for everyone

You can't get anywhere outside of Japan on a motorcycle unless your motorcycle can go so fast that you can jump across the ocean with it.

It's not impossible, but the riders would probably die from that kind of acceleration.

They can always board a boat with the motocycle :rolleyes:

But I do not feel they'll fuck the end up. At least I hope so.

As of yet, the mishaps are Hiromi's mother happenings we are not sure of,
Hiromi's nightmare where she is alone at night on a road and she's scared of being alone,
Raigomaru's death
Noe's grandma death.

So yes, even though this show seems like being peaceful and slow, there's plenty of room for very strong mishaps.

But I hope they find something better than that...

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That takes all the excitement out of it, as well as making it way too realistic a scenario for anime.

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That takes all the excitement out of it, as well as making it way too realistic a scenario for anime.

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how about

they drive (or sneak) into a military-airplane used to transport tanks and maybe armored personnel carriers ...

we all know that every military-airplane will fly either to iraq or somewhere in africa, so when they are flying over some specific place, they open the hatch and jump out of the plane on their motorcycle with parachutes.

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They drive onto the plane but found out that it's actually carrying Gundams. The Gundam people kick #4 off the plane and keep Hiromi, who eventually turns into a coldblooded Gundam pilot (ala Shin Asuka). Meanwhile, #4 gets severely injured but manages to survive. His goal in life is to find Hiromi, and in the process he becomes a mobile suit pilot as well. Eventually he gets into a fight (in mobile suits) against Hiromi and they kill each other. Many years have passed, and they suddenly realize they've found each other and die a happy death.

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