Sky Girls

OVA released by Froth-Bite:
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5...5D.mp4.torrent

Here are the TV episodes by Froth-Bite 1-5:
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5...5D.mp4.torrent
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5...5D.mp4.torrent
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5...5D.mp4.torrent
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5...5D.mp4.torrent
http://www.froth-bite.com/torrent/%5...5D.mp4.torrent


"A.D. 2079, A mysterious mechanical cellar cluster begins “Human Being Sweep Operation”. After two years’ war, the human beings are outnumbered by the cluster, and they finally decide to use the ultimate weapon. Sacrificing their continent, they manage to eliminate the enemy. However it causes most of the continents to split, Antarctica disappears and 50% of the world slips under the sea.

Three years later, the enemy cluster that is supposed to have been destroyed is found by the Midway. To identify them, an aircraft carrier, The Koryu, leaves a Japanese port secretly. The Koryu carries three fighters designed by scientists of the Japanese Navy. They are Aviation Exoskelton Sky Divers, Reijin, Fujin, and Raijin. The pilots of these fighters are three young girls called Sky Girls, Sakurano Otoha, Sonomiya Kren, and Ichijo Eika.

It’s time to fly into the air carrying the future and dreams of the human beings."

http://www.skygirls.konami.jp/
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...me.php?id=6692
http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,3...sky_girls.html
http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.p...anime&aid=4383

I took a download and I have to say, this OVA was okay. Nothing to run home and tell mom about but it was tolerable. I just wonder if there is going to be another one?

Aye. It was entertaining enough. I have a feeling the makers of this ova, knowing how cliched it was, kind of flipped the coin and took most out of the oh-so-traditional plot and elements by
emphasizing them instead of even trying to make it look original. And that was a succesful approach.

In all honesty I have to say the high loli content and the active attention it got made this ova pretty hilarious. Which, I suppose, once again, was exactly what the creators had intended.

I wouldn't mind watching future episodes.

Sky Girls and the Worms of Tomorrow...

As 0.1% of you might know, the success of the OVA (never underestimate the power of loli fans), encouraged a full 26 episodes TV series. Seeing how the ova seemed to be such a "huge" success here at GW, I decided not to create a new thread. The story should be the same, still, and the cast looks about the same (including Ayako Kawasumi!), anyway. I don't think it's necessary to watch the OVA to watch this series.

AniDB, ANN, Official.

So, get ready for a heavy loli dose:

Episode 1 h264 - Ayako
Episode 1 xvid - Ayako

Edit: After having watched the first episode, I can say for sure it's not necessary to watch the ova for the story. In fact it might be better not to. The series starts from an earlier time point, and proceeds to introduce the central characters before they became pilots. Also, it looks like this tv series doesn't intend to be a piece of loli fanservice but a serious series. Better that way, of course.

Just watched the first episode and thought it was good.
Definitely worth watching and following... and concerning the OVA... I think I'll download it and watch after the series ends or something.

Sky Girls 2 - XviD version
Sky Girls 2 - h264 version

Watched the OVA and the 2 first eps.

I think I'll watch it through the end just out of curiosity... and because I do not like unfinished things (recently I finished KOR and Maison Ikkoku I had started in my teen years...)

However, as of yet, I do not see anything of interrest to me (to me I wrote ;) )
Mecha isn't my type
Preteen girls as main characters aren't my type (eventhough they say 15 and more...)

Eventhough I do not like mecha, I have to say these exoskeletons are quite ugly... I know
why bother trying to fing nice mechas :D

Well I'll keep watching to finish this, and hopefully I'll get a good story arc... after all I downloaded this for the sake of openmindedness...

c u

I actually think that the exoskeletens are quite well designed, since it goes for a more function over fashion approach, and thats the way it should be when it comes to weapons.

I like preteen girls, and I enjoy mecha, so Ill keep watching this.

Tsundere characters, if well made, are always a plus, and I have a feeling Ichijou (?) is going to turn out good.

Aren't they all high school age? Karen was clearly a genius girl skipped into college, Otoha has been mentioned to be high school age, and Eika is the same. They're drawn loli, but not as bad as say...Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight! where they were drawn like elementary students.

They are highschool students, as mentioned in the earlier posts, but they LOOK like preteen girls (LOLI) and that is all that matters doesnt it?

I also liked Manabi for the same (though not the only) reason.

Episode 3 h264 - Ayako
Episode 3 xvid - Ayako

The second and third episodes strengthen my feeling they do try to make this a real story in addition to a loli presentation. Well, naturally that has to happen because only a real hardcore lolicon would watch 26 episodes just for the characters... This hasn't been bad so far, if not anything spectacular either. Although I can't help but wonder how long it'll take before we get to the point where the ova was. Right now it looks like the training and intro episodes could still take some time.

Im a hardcore loli fan, but I still wouldnt watch something without a plot, or a show with just a bunch of loli characters standing and talking... wait, I actually do watch something like that (lucky star!!!).

For all regular and hardcore loli fans:

Episode 4 - Ayako
Episode 4 xvid - Ayako

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For all regular and hardcore loli fans:

Episode 4 - Ayako
Episode 4 xvid - Ayako

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I'm not a hardcore loli fan, but since I'm about to finish Elfen Lied and I don't even like violence... anyway, seems like it is a very fast dl... so many loli fans out there?

Otoha doesn't disappoint in her stereotype. Gets paid ---> Buys only food and plays games. She's dumb, but really hard not to like.
Eika displays her cute side, discretely very much enjoying shopping, which she takes as seriously as she does piloting.

Karen on the other hand annoys me. Her androphobia aside, her brother complex is really kind of creepy. Other characters in other series have all had brother/sister complexes, but Karen's just comes off...stalkerish.

There wasn't too much else to this episode, but the series has been enjoyable so far.

Aye. This series actually surprised me. I thought it would be but a loli fest, but in fact, while cliched, it's actually very solid. This episode was no different. You knew from the moment Karen dropped the pencil how the rest of the ep was going to turn out, but when things are done well, I'm not really even bothered by such predictability.

I've been also wondering about that Karen-brother situation. It's taken over the top but I think it just tries to underline the fact Karen really does have a psychological problem of not being able to be in the presence of boys. And I reckon she's really sorry she can't meet even her own brother, and tries to fix that. In the mean time, though, she tries to make up for her inability to stand meeting her by the multiple letters. In a sense you could say that if your own sister/brother couldn't stand you company it is kind of insulting. From that source rises the creepiness of how it's depicted. However, I think it's much more believable than all those incestuous relationships around.

Also for non-loli fans (you don't have to believe that):

Episode 5 h264 - Ayako
Episode 5 xvid - Ayako

Edit: Ho... It looks like the Worms are finally back. Or at least I got that kind of impression from the West Europe news the bishounen officer was reading at the end of the episode. The preview didn't suggest they will be anywhere near Japan for immediately, but even their spreading shadow should remove any plans for peaceful missions and hard steel will start to talk.

Even the Worms like loli. Enough to kill for it.

Episode 6 h264 - Ayako
Episode 6 ye olde xvid - Ayako

Well, since I'm pretty shallow, I found the Nanae's bra side story to be pretty cute and funny. Otoha ran around with that thing everywhere, like an 8 year old. Karen's higher education geometry analysis of Nanae's document-shielded body was probably the funniest part.

First glimpse of Eliza, the catgirl pilot in the OP. Eastern Europe, genius young pilot. I sense Asuka syndrome.

It was a West Europe base, wasn't it (but so was Asuka from Germany just like this one, though)? But other than that, I don't think there were any such girls in the ova. So, what's her purpose? She's in the AniDB pic with the other girls, and also in the ANN actor list among them, so I suppose she is a main character. But will she get a Japanese mecha just like the others? Intriguing.

She stands directly in front of a blue Sonic Diver during the OP. I'm willing to bet the boat Elise/Eliza escaped on has more than just her on it.

One again it backfires that I always skip OPs that haven't music that really fits my tastes ...

Good to know, though. While I love the Japanese just like any other anime addict, I always find it doubly interesting when anime has people also from elsewhere than Japan and naturally also equipment. It brings a bit of variety in. Especially since the Japanese are so good at stereotyping.

The loliometer was already running low:

Episode 7 - Ayako
Episode 7 the obsolete xvid - Ayako

Edit: It doesn't look like we'll be getting the Eliza girl any time soon in the cast; even the next episode is the obligatory onsen episode, which honestly looks like it won't advance the plot much. I hope the girls will at least learn the Worms are back and they will be placed in active military duty instead of test piloting. Well, if Eliza is still sailing with the slow vessel she was pushed into, I guess she won't get from the west coast of Europe to Japan any time soon.

In the shadows the worms lurk, biding their time in sleepless quiescence full of deadly malice:

Episode 8v2 - Ayako
Episode 8v2 ancestral format - Ayako

Edit: Changed links to version 2.

thanks a lot Kraco

The obligatory onsen episode. You would think an episode like this is sheer fanservice, but interestingly enough all of that sort was left for the very last moments, and even then it wasn't nearly as audacious as I expected, thus strenghtening my opinion this series in fact is not only trying to cater to loli fans but tries to be a serious story. No complaints from me, of course. I kind of enjoy watching every now and then lucid mecha shows that don't try to beat Eva in either para- or pseudo- or genuine psychology.

I only hope the European girl would be introduced soon. But maybe they are saving her for some dramatic scene.

Just started watching this, up to episode 2. But you can really see the influence Konami has on this. The mecha's in this anime, have a strong resemblance to Orbital Frames in the Zone of the Enders games.

Edit: They're also not very practical... I mean, the pilot exposed for one to dangers, and Two, speed and air while flying and travelling at high speeds would most likely hinder their performance,

It's also starting to feel like it'll follow the Evangelion Archetype, which I'm not a fan of to be honest.

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The obligatory onsen episode. You would think an episode like this is sheer fanservice, but interestingly enough all of that sort was left for the very last moments, and even then it wasn't nearly as audacious as I expected, thus strenghtening my opinion this series in fact is not only trying to cater to loli fans but tries to be a serious story. No complaints from me, of course. I kind of enjoy watching every now and then lucid mecha shows that don't try to beat Eva in either para- or pseudo- or genuine psychology.

I only hope the European girl would be introduced soon. But maybe they are saving her for some dramatic scene.

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It seems like they try to give time for the audience to get used to the characters and their behaviour, time to get attached maybe? At least for those interrested.
Now, maybe it lacks a bit of action, but actually it's fine.

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Edit: They're also not very practical... I mean, the pilot exposed for one to dangers, and Two, speed and air while flying and travelling at high speeds would most likely hinder their performance,

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It seems the nano-protection they have is enough for protection against low pressure, temperature and breathing support...

It's still impractical however you look at it. Now if it was the nano-skin with a fullbody armor suit, that'd be more practical. But I guess since it's this type of show, they just have to have the front completely open for view and use some excuse like nano skin.

Yeah. That's most likely the exact reason. No matter what you do, a mecha doesn't look loli. So, they need to show the pilot.

More evident influence from Konami is the introduction of Vic Viper in ep 7, which I believe is the ship in the Gradius series, as well as the mecha used by Leo in Zone of the Enders 2.

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No matter what you do, a mecha doesn't look loli. So, they need to show the pilot.

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Not completely correct. The Mecha-Lina from Slayers Great is the first that comes to mind.
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/8...echabu9.th.png
Loli-ness is debatable, but I put it forth as evidence anyway.

I groaned inwardly when I saw the Vic Viper. It's likeness is still seared in my head from the SNES days with Gradius III. At the same time, it was still very cool.

I was glad to see that although Otoha was very against being used as a war pilot, both Eika and Karen seemed to understand completely. I do get the feeling that Eika doesn't value her own life at all, but at least Karen sees the need for them to fight.

Either Eika doesn't value her life or being commanded to fight Worms is a dream come true for her, and thus she uttered the most cheesy "good soldier" lines she could come up with. It has been clear from the beginning she wants to do great deeds and be recognized as she is unsure of her own skills (or too aware of any shortcomings) and feels inferior to others (to the natural talents). So, risking her life for recognition would be totally possible for her.

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Either Eika doesn't value her life or being commanded to fight Worms is a dream come true for her, and thus she uttered the most cheesy "good soldier" lines she could come up with. It has been clear from the beginning she wants to do great deeds and be recognized as she is unsure of her own skills (or too aware of any shortcomings) and feels inferior to others (to the natural talents). So, risking her life for recognition would be totally possible for her.

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We've seen that Eika is quite obsessed with her first encounter with a Sonic Diver. Even
though it was clear she couldn't have won no matter what, it's still a burden to her.

She also has another problem with her father in the army, who seems to be quite high rank in the headquarters. It hasn't been developed, only a very harsh reaction at the demo meeting.

There's also her first flight with her Sonic Diver, when she lost control
She has been saved by Otoha. At the time, this was a major offender, since Eika was supposed to be the best one, and Otoha only a very lighthead civilian...

The dawn of war looms ever nearer:

Episode 8 links again as they are now version 2:
Episode 8v2 - Ayako
Episode 8v2 ancestral format - Ayako

And the new ones:
Episode 9 - Ayako
Episode 9 museum format - Ayako

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I wasn't sure if it's yet the time, but now fortunately I can say finally the worms arrived. There surely were already enough simulations. Though in a certain sense I wouldn't have minded if the first battle had been harder. It was pretty easy in the end. But no doubt future will present harder ones.

One good thing was the explanation of the ultimate technique (if it should be called that since it's pretty much the only standard technique for defeating the worms (aside from nukes)). I could be wrong but I don't think the OVA used much time to explain how it worked. Back then I got the impression it was some strange quantum phenomenon, and thus I'm now much happier it's a little bit closer to the reality.

Now we only need a tough battle where something will go wrong and everything seems lost but then Eliza appears out of nowhere to save the day! That would be so much cooler than those three saving her...

This time also with a loli file size (for h264 due to limitations in the selection of raws)...

Episode 10 - Ayako
Episode 10 in the format of yesterday - Ayako

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Edit: Hmm... I was thinking this would be a low content episode, while it was that, it wasn't bad after all. Pretty funny scenes. However, more interesting was the next episode preview. It looks like the fourth girl will arrive, and from what little was shown in the preview I got the impression she'll be a lolified Asuka... Not at all what I expected based on the short scene back when she was shortly seen still in Europe. I hope, though, that she won't be a totally useless character but has something concrete to offer. Other than that, I'll just wait and see.

Fear not for your lives for the loli fighters have arrived to save the day!

Episode 11 - Ayako
Episode 11 Jurassic format - Ayako



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Edit: It was a pretty good and interesting episode. The fourth girl seems to reside in the arrogant genius slot but despite the fact that role isn't exactly the one I like the most, she wasn't annoying - at least not yet. Much depends on whether she remains as ill tempered as in this episode for long or whether she will actually assume a role of a team member. But at least she wasn't useless as a pilot so all possibilities should still be open.

Of course it's too early to judge that but maybe a little conflict among the pilots necessarily isn't a bad thing. The three old ones certainly have begun to get along very smoothly already so this is the only way to return more vigorous dynamics to the character interaction.

Does anyone else get annoyed at the OP karaoke? The lyrics though in Engrish, say "Rising for Siege" but it's been saying Raising for Siege since like episode 1. =|

Despite the fact that MELL's english is atrocious (as bad as her Black Lagoon OP), her songs continue to use it. It's not much of a surprise that Ayako's karaoke is wrong. Moreover, they do next to no (or very little) QC. The doctor in this episode telling Nanae her breasts are nothing to be "embraced" about (a short funny scene I enjoyed despite the typos). There's more here and there as well.

As episode content goes, I was pretty happy with Elize's introduction. Nice trademark Asuka hair flip in the midpoint eyecatch. Eika determined she wasn't the mysterious ace who humiliated her when she was still in planes, so we'll hopefully be seeing more of that sideplot again. It's nice to see someone can fire up Eika since she and Otoha became friends.

Also good to note that Eika finished Elize off in the exact same way she had been finished off by her mysterious nemesis.

Raising for a Loli Siege:

Episode 12 - Ayako
Episode 12 primordial format - Ayako

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Does anyone else get annoyed at the OP karaoke? The lyrics though in Engrish, say "Rising for Siege" but it's been saying Raising for Siege since like episode 1. =|

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Ayako changed their karaoke in light of the album's release. Proving once and for all there's absolutely no point in saying whether any of MELL's lyrics are one thing or another until you get the lyrics. Apparently, the correct words are "Rising crazy." God her English is terrible. Even some of the Japanese is hard to guess correctly at, with the correct supertitles. This is why Shinsen never bothered doing karaoke for Black Lagoon.

This episode was nice, a little development for Karen, and a lot of subtle stuff for Elize. Elize sympathized with Karen a lot, considering her entire family is probably dead. We also get a little bit of Eika-Elize big sister-little sister parallels. I was kind of expecting a confrontation with Elize having a fit about losing her family and they Otoha countering with having not seen her twin since they were very young. It was better this way.

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Ayako changed their karaoke in light of the album's release. Proving once and for all there's absolutely no point in saying whether any of MELL's lyrics are one thing or another until you get the lyrics. Apparently, the correct words are "Rising crazy." God her English is terrible. Even some of the Japanese is hard to guess correctly at, with the correct supertitles. This is why Shinsen never bothered doing karaoke for Black Lagoon.

This episode was nice, a little development for Karen, and a lot of subtle stuff for Elize. Elize sympathized with Karen a lot, considering her entire family is probably dead. We also get a little bit of Eika-Elize big sister-little sister parallels. I was kind of expecting a confrontation with Elize having a fit about losing her family and they Otoha countering with having not seen her twin since they were very young. It was better this way.

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Oh wow, her english is terrible. I always listen to the first couple seconds of the OP and honestly after all the times that I hear it, those 2 words were definetely not what I thought they were.

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Elize sympathized with Karen a lot, considering her entire family is probably dead. We also get a little bit of Eika-Elize big sister-little sister parallels. I was kind of expecting a confrontation with Elize having a fit about losing her family and they Otoha countering with having not seen her twin since they were very young. It was better this way.

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Yeah, it was good this way. She has quite an integrity in any case, to cope so well with what she lost. Though it's not all too clear how long she has had to come to terms with it (or was it said at some explicitly when the West Europe base was demolished?). However, with her little revenge premonition there I wonder if she will get overly eager during her first fight or something and screw up. Her emotional burden is quite heavy and quite contrary to some others in the team who weren't thrilled to become combat pilots.

I also keep noticing Elize's uniform. I guess she's still a part of the European military and just happens to be stationed in Japan for the time being in the name of military cooperation because there are no active sonic divers (yet) elsewhere in the world. Although who cares as long as she keeps wearing the nekomimi...

The defenders of humanity and lolity:

Episode 13 - Ayako
Episode 13 Mesoproterozoic format - Ayako



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Edit: Somehow I think the single best moment of this episode was when the worm approached the ship with its giant mouth open and then the ship coolly shot a single artillery shell point-blank straight into that gaping mouth, sending the monster back into the sea. It looked so much more funny than the usual fare the girls used to subdue the thing.

The next ep preview, though, looked really ominous. I was hoping all the time Elize wouldn't be used as an excuse to create situation where somebody screws up stupidly and then is rescued. And all the more I was hoping Elize wouldn't do it because she's obviously the most eager of them all to kill worms and thus might overdo it, resulting in failures. But I guess it has to go like its written in the textbooks...

The advantage of using loli pilots is to have low mass increase of the unit as well as minimal effect on aerodynamics.

Episode 14 - Ayako
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Edit: Well, all in all I'm pretty satisfied with this. Elize's recklessness was actually played out even better than I expected. I didn't foresee they would bring the deathwish in as a factor but now that it was there, it was all the better. Also, it's nice she actually is quite a kickass pilot when she can keep her head cool and follow the protocol. The end and no apologies showed she still has some arrogance issues, though...

It looks like the next episode will shift the plot away from Elize. I have no idea whether this series has any deeper plot or not in how they will put an end to the Worm affair once and for all, but somehow I doubt we will be seeing any such development yet even if it exist.

Sun Tzu said: The good lolis of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of
defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy.

Episode 15 - Ayako
Episode 15 geezer format - Ayako

Well, just when I think that Elise and Eika are getting all the character development, we get another Eika/Elise episode. They've really been stealing the spotlight from the other two, and so far, they've been more interesting anyway. They've become quite close. It almost seems like Eika and Elise are like sisters who fight all the time.

And just when I think that, the episode ends with a mysterious figure I believe we're supposed to assume as Otoha's lost twin brother. Very strange. Is it related to the light that appeared when Zero and Otoha first synced, or is it related to the WORMs?

Though, truth be told, I don't really care. The primary motivation to continue watching has been to find out who Eika's helmeted rival is. There's several possibilities (from logical to far-fetched).

I got bad Eva vibes when the figure emerged from the sea... I hope that feeling is totally unfounded, even if this series won't ever be and never tried to be any fountain of originality. Well, I suppose I'll just wait and see.

What you said about the character development and the spotlight still remaining on Elise is indeed what I was thinking as well. Though Otoha and Karen aren't exactly anymore characters whose personalities could be develop that much further with historical material. Karen still hasn't met her brother, but that's starting get old nonetheless. Of course they could always develop those character forward, though, so lets hope they get more screen time in the future.

One thing I especially liked is how they referred to Elise having had no parents for a number of times yet it didn't feel underlined nor did she especially try to use that tragedy to gain any extra points. She just simply mentioned it with some melancholic feelings. It's good her tantrums are centered around her own weaknesses and strengths, not anything external.

Sun Tzu said: The loli of war is of vital importance to the State.

Episode 16 - Ayako
Episode 16 paleontologic format - Ayako


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Edit: Hmm... A pretty inconsequential episode and the plot was cliche to boot. I don't really feel like this even deepened Sanae's character that much, and t be totally honest I don't think her character even needs any development (even if she's the only more curvaceous girl around).

The next episode looks witless. I wonder if this series is ever going to get serious...

I just found out about this show and caught up and i'm amazed. I started watching this thinking it would be a completely stupid mecha show but its much more clever than most.

there may or may not be a bigger story (I think there is with the ghost guy and the way WORMS act like Celestial Beings) but the characters are so well fleshed out its neat. I like the way the technology is shown. Sonic Divers are simply thought as toys while the Vic Vipers are much more powerful (although unable to destroy worms). its not an unrealistic situation altogether.

all in all, although not the same quality, i get vibes of FMP. actually to think of it, it IS the same feeling i got from season 1 of FMP, with vivid characters and stories revolving around them rather than the mechas (although in the case the mechas do get more importance)

very good show!


EDIT: Ep 17 came out

http://a.scarywater.net/ayako/%5BAya...5D.avi.torrent



about that ep. well i guess it proves that the Sonic Divers are autonomous once and for all. the question is, why the hell didn't they just send one to scout the area and find the Kouryuu? energy didn't seem to be a problem. Next ep should be more about Otoha and the other guy...

Episode 17 is also available in a format other than the relic one:

Episode 17 - Ayako

Edit: And moreover, Eika was flying, albeit not sitting in the cockpit, her mecha. Even if it entails slow speed flying, it would still have allowed them to get far enough from the island to be able to use the radio. It wasn't a very logical episode at all, but I guess it was nice enough otherwise. They even gave Elise one more chance to demonstrate how she is younger and more immature than the others.

Sun Tzu said: The art of pedo recognizes nine varieties of loli: (1) Dispersive loli;
(2) facile loli; (3) contentious loli; (4) open loli; (5) loli of intersecting
highways; (6) serious loli; (7) difficult loli; (8) hemmed-in loli; (9) desperate
loli.

Episode 18 - Ayako
Episode 18 forgotten format - Ayako

Some sort of a DVD special. Seem to have a small file size.

DVD Special 1 - Ayako
DVD Special 1 xvicious - Ayako


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Edit: Well, it was certainly... umm... Something else. I was expecting some fanservice but all I got was Fishing Idiot Eika-san.... Oh, well.

It's starting to feel like I'm only talking to myself here. Oh, well, at least I know the discussion is appreciated by the sole listener...

Episode 19 - Ayako
Episode 19 carbon dated format - Ayako

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It's starting to feel like I'm only talking to myself here. Oh, well, at least I know the discussion is appreciated by the sole listener...

Episode 19 - Ayako
Episode 19 carbon dated format - Ayako

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Aye, here I am :D

I was wondering wether fansubers for this show were all retired (loli lovers are old, it's a given fact :D) And my favorite tracker site is having server pbs...

Well thanks a lot dude :cool:

Edit: I think it's possible to know what the end of the show may be. But so far the story is not that bad, which explains why I watch it eventhough it's mecha/loli...

woot... we found out more about the WORMs (I also think its the first time it was officially explained what WORM meant) in one ep than the whole series so far...

i also liked the "We didn't even get this much praise from defeating the WORMs"... it ranks on Maslow's hierarchy of needs! Food is more important than security!

This kind of origin for the WORMs was better than some extraterrestial. Yet still it kind of eludes me why the girl was said to be the origin of WORMs. She was the first test subject, sure, but what happened after that? Now we only know the scientist escaped to the mountains with his daughter and then put her in cryostasis, but we don't know why massive amounts of nanomachines ended up in the ecosystem and began to replicate. Was it an accident or was it intentional?

Well, maybe it's somehow related to Otoha's missing brother. I guess he has to have some significance, though I'm unsure of the timeline. Her brother can't be that old, can he? Whatever he did should have happened after the first WORM war, I figure.

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This kind of origin for the WORMs was better than some extraterrestial. Yet still it kind of eludes me why the girl was said to be the origin of WORMs. She was the first test subject, sure, but what happened after that? Now we only know the scientist escaped to the mountains with his daughter and then put her in cryostasis, but we don't know why massive amounts of nanomachines ended up in the ecosystem and began to replicate. Was it an accident or was it intentional?

Well, maybe it's somehow related to Otoha's missing brother. I guess he has to have some significance, though I'm unsure of the timeline. Her brother can't be that old, can he? Whatever he did should have happened after the first WORM war, I figure.

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There was a phrase implying Otoha was part of the thing if I'm correct.
Plus there's her natural sync to Reijin at a very high level from the start...

Can't wait for more, but have to.

Sun Tzu said: We may distinguish six kinds of loli, to wit: (1) Accessible loli; (2)
entangling loli; (3) temporizing loli; (4) narrow loli; (5) precipitous loli; (6)
loli at a great distance from the enemy.

Episode 20 - Ayako
Episode 20 centennial format - Ayako

Thanks a lot for your brain integrated loli tracker :D

This episode didn't, in the end, reveal that much new, aside from the fact the nanomachine girl can form a connection with Worms and somehow disturb their movements (or something higher, who knows). But considering the toll, it might be too early to say that ability is their new superweapon, although if the sky girls hadn't just stood there like idiots for minutes when the Worm was stopped, the girl would have been spared a lot of effort. After all, considering the speed of the sonic divers, some 5 seconds of impaired enemy movement would make all the difference in the world.

The next episode should be more interesting with the Vic Vipers. I wonder if they are going to make the fighter jets fail or if they are really going to have a common front with both the Sonic divers and the Vics fighting side by side. I would personally prefer the latter because honestly it would be more realistic yet still less traditional.

Its only natural that they froze for a few seconds. Not knowing what the enemy is capable of and why it stopped in the first place is enough to make even the most experienced pilots hesitate, much more teenage girls.

It's enough to make teenage girls froze, for sure, and that's indeed what I thought when it happened: They are teenage girls, not combat pilot, after all. Under normal circumstances, however, if you are having hard time hitting a fast moving enemy, and then the enemy suddenly stops for whatever reasons, you should just thank whatever god you serve and shoot. Unless it's your chivalry that hinders you...

Or it might be a trap and the previously fast-moving enemy suddenly stops to lure you into it. That may very well be the case, and if they suddenly jumped in and got screwed, it would end much worse. Caution rather than chivalry is the issue here.

Correct, but only under different circumstances. If you think about it, that particular enemy was totally in control of the battlefield, so much so that it seemed to enjoy the situation and take its time in damaging the sky girls one by one. It had no need for a trap. And furthermore, it's not like it would have stopped a suitable distance away to lure them somewhere. It suddenly stopped at point-blank distance when it was about to attack and was shaking as if suffering from some seizure.

The Letter and charge way of classifying worms is only taking size into account?

Because this C- was way more dangerous than the A+ a few eps back.

I guess the SkyGirls need more simulations with very quick worms.

Another strange point is that they were all fighting lined up when they understood it was too quick for them.
I wonder why they didn't try to disperse, in order to have more widespread shoot lines and hope for more shots to touch the target.

Oh and the background noise when Aisha fainted reminded me of vintage StarTrek, though it may be different ;)

@Kraco - or it might have self destructed when they shot at it, taking them with it. Or it might have shot out an attack that is practically impossible to dodge at that range had they been shooting. It was shaking and stuff in their proximity after all. The fact that the thing was in control for the whole time was what made it suspicious. Even if it had the upperhand, it still wasnt able to hit the skygirls. It would be quite understandable to use a feint of some sort to finish off the enemy, like how a boxer gives a proper feint after a barrage to deliver a KO punch.

Sorry, shinta|hikari, but I think you have lost already. Besides, keep in mind that every time those things explode, when they destroy them, the force seems to be equal to a small tactical nuclear weapon (fireball and the resulting mushroom cloud), with the exception of no radiation, I suppose. Furthermore, they only have one way of destroying the Worms in general, and thus it doesn't really matter what the situation is because there's only that one route to go: Otoha sticks her sword through the outer layer and they initiate that field system. Any chance that makes that procedure possible is their victory, and an enemy suddenly stopping its movement is the perfect chance. If it's a feint and doesn't work out, then it's a lost chance but it's not like they could do anything else or anything differently.

I wasnt planning on winning or anything, since it isnt an argument of that sort.

Anyway, all I am saying is that the situation was unpredictable, and such situations WILL make anyone hesitate. The method of defeating the enemy or how they explode is obviously irrelevant. Example: Had the enemy been preparing to stick out numerous stakes from its body in order to impale the skygirls, and Otoha immediately decides (without hesitation as you suppose) to stick her sword on the immobile enemy, that would have resulted in her certain death.

The point is, in any battle, if the enemy suddenly acts strangely for an inexplicable reason, any logical person will immediately side with caution, not just jump into it. Granted they only have one final attack, but as it has been since the beginning of the series, they themselves have created the openings/chances to employ it. This means that they know it is indeed a "chance to exploit" and not a trap or anything of the sort. The main difference in this case is, the enemy was immobilized by an unknown factor, and such an event surprised the skygirls themselves, and understandably, they stop for 5 seconds or so.

Even if the pilots were experienced aces, the result would have been the same. I think it would even be more amateurish to suddenly dive into something without knowing what might happen.

EDIT: falling for a feint and getting KOd is not simply a missed chance in this case, if you get what I mean.

I didn't mean to post this metaphor, but I'll do now to make my point:

Let's say you are trying to take out a fast enemy APC with your LAW. However, the APC is some ways off, moving fast and not even moving linearly. You aim and aim but don't want to launch because you are pretty sure you would miss, and that would be it. Then, suddenly, the APC stops and smoke pours out of its exhaust. Your first thought: It's a feint or its an engine malfunction?

Now, the APC would win nothing but risk everything with such a feint. However, it can't help it if the engine broke. And honestly the Worm looked just like that, stopping suddenly in the middle of an attack and just hovering there in a seizure, shaking and shivering.

You have a point, but Im not sure an APC can be equated to a worm, since a worm is not nearly as predictable as an APC. An APC is a mechanical unit whose capabilities are quite well known. While a worm is, well, that. Its attacks arent exactly conventional.

I already illustrated a scenario wherein it is severely dangerous to simply attack without caution, and obviously, there is no way for them to be certain immediately that it wasnt a trap of sorts. That is exactly why after only 5 seconds they realize that it is a chance to attack and do so.

Shaking and shivering may be tell tale signs of having a seizure of sorts, but does that still apply to worms? They arent exactly normal creatures. If it was indeed another plane or an animal that they were hunting and it suddenly stops or slows down, then even the most inexperienced teenage girl will shoot at it immediately. But a gigantic worm whose identity and details mostly remain a mystery (at least to the pilots) is a whole different thing. The fact that Otoha needs to get close enough to stab it should also be put into consideration, as it is much more dangerous than long range attacks.

I might admit you have a point if not for the fact they reacted immediately after receiving the command from the ship, and consequently demolished the Worm with no problems. That's clearly a serious lack of personal judgement and initiative. The ship probably didn't even see them through all the clouds, yet they trusted the command without hesitation (note that they didn't know the ship knew Aisha had interfered with the Worm)? What's that? They were cautious and suspected it's a trap until outsiders with no knowledge told them they should attack? That tells me the only problem here is that they are still teenage girls and not combat pilots who could adapt to changing battlefield conditions.

More simulations. Better simulations. That's what they need.

Besides, even if it was a trap, their response still was utterly foolish: They didn't scatter or withdraw from the immediate vicinity; they just remained where they were, still and solid targets for whatever the trap might have caused. So, in either case their response was quite unforgivable as far as combat piloting goes.

I didnt say that the skygirls expected a trap and that is why they stopped. There was not enough time to deduce that. What I wanted to point out is that rushing in at that point is not something even veterans would do.

The skygirls probably stopped due to surprise at the sudden behavior of the enemy, and thus they didnt attack immediately out of caution. Even if it wasnt a conscious decision on their part, it was still an understandable and even correct reaction to the situation, even if they did do it out of instinct.

The reason why they immediately attacked the worm after the order is because they were ordered to do so. Any military unit is expected to follow orders immediately especially in combat situations, and the skygirls are no different. It was more of an obey now ask questions later action for them.

I do have to admit though that their response was foolish. Even if they didnt attack since they were wary of the enemy, simply hovering in front of it is not smart either.

Well, either way, its not really that big of a deal. I do agree with you that the girls are still not combat aces, but I still hold that not attacking at that point is a logical result considering the situation. Lets just leave it at that.

Sun Tzu said: Hold out lolis to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.

DVD Special 2 h264 - Ayako
DVD Special 2 mummified format - Ayako

Loli under water, loli in winter, loli for ever

Ep21 H264

Quote from the ep:

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It's the famous OPTIONS

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Man, how many hours did I play to Nemesis from Konami on my
MSX from Philips...

OOOHHH GOD!
just downloaded an emulation for the MSX and found the nemesis ROM...
Back to the future! it's like I remembered it... geez!

This was a good episode. The Vic Vipers certainly have quite a punch but they weren't omnipotent. The cooperation with Sonic Divers was more or less to be expected but it was executed well. I wonder how things will turn out in the future. Unless they have a whole fleet of Vics standing by, the Sky Girls probably aren't yet out of business (as if that could happen, but anyway). The next episode doesn't exactly look like it will advance the plot, though, so we will have to wait to see.

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This was a good episode. The Vic Vipers certainly have quite a punch but they weren't omnipotent. The cooperation with Sonic Divers was more or less to be expected but it was executed well. I wonder how things will turn out in the future. Unless they have a whole fleet of Vics standing by, the Sky Girls probably aren't yet out of business (as if that could happen, but anyway). The next episode doesn't exactly look like it will advance the plot, though, so we will have to wait to see.

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Well Vic Vipers are very efficient it seems.
The only advantage I see with the Sonic Divers is the lock that ensures no cells can escape before the last explosion.
From how the vics were shown, you can say that for almost any worm, you only need one vic to destroy it. This A+ was one from the former war, very smart and evolved explaining why it was impossible for the vics to get rid of it alone. But Sonic Divers weren't able to do it alone too.

The problem now, with those vics being so efficient is that 1 vic is enough for 1 worm... when you need 3 and now 4 sonic divers for the same worm...

Indeed. It kind of suggest a special work would be all that's basically left for Sonic Divers. But since the series is nearing the end, that makes more sense. I could have seen this series end with the humans winning the war after one nasty battle where the Sonic Divers play some role the Vics couldn't perform, and then the girls would leave to continue their own lives. However, after the little speech by Togo in the ep 21, I'm not too sure anymore. He said he wanted the girls to inherit his will to fly. Unless he was speaking figuratively, the Sky Girls might continue forever (not the series but the flying)...

Episode 22 h264 - Ayako
Episode 22 xvid - Ayako

Sun Tzu said: Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war, loliness has never been seen associated with long delays.

Episode 23 h264 - Ayako
Episode 23 terracotta format - Ayako

Ep24 and 25 right for Xmas and H264 format

http://www.mininova.org/get/1065600 for ep 24

http://www.mininova.org/get/1065605 for ep 25

Hence the saying: If you know the loli and know yourself, you need not fear the
result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the loli, for every victory
gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the loli nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle.

Episode 26 Final h264 - Ayako
Episode 26 Final xvid - Ayako



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Edit: Considering the action all ended in the previous episode it was no wonder this is a pretty much no content one. Despite that, I found it enjoyable. Actually I prefer this kind of ending to a series. There are those that end suddenly when the last enemy is defeated but those leave an all too abrupt feeling. This kind of last episode that basically brings very little to the table makes it easier to leave a decent series behind, makes it feel like it's really over.

Well they had lives before being sky girls, they have lives after.

It's always nice to have a full length end ep. Bye Sky Girls

I kind of hoped for a kissing scene or something more romantic than blushing which started from like episode 5 or something, but it was a good solid ending.

One last time for everything (actually I don't know if this is the last but maybe it is):

DVD Special 3 h264 - Ayako
DVD Special 3 Acheulean format - Ayako

One more witless Fishing Maniac Eika special. All in all, these have been pretty good specials. They are comedy and don't even try to integrate with the series itself.