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The best Anime I've come across so far is Naruto, I havn't watched alot of Anime though, Post your favorite animes, I wanna check em out, I'm at episode 152 of naruto and have nothing to do with my time....I need another show... =( So, to a Naruto lover, what anime wouldd you recommend thanks.
Watch some porn.
There is nothing like Naruto. Be more specific. What kind of animes do you like? Give us some examples.
You should check out
Full Metal Alchamist
Inuyasha
One Piece
Yu Yu Hakasho
Basilisk
Bleach
Since you love Naruto one of those should interest you.
1. Bleach ( Best Naruto Alternative )
2. One Piece ( Best comedy and storyline, personally I prefer OP over Naruto)
3. Full Metal Alchemist ( Great characters, story and animation)
and when you are fininsed with all of the above, watch some porn.
try tsubasa chronicle,bleach,onepiece,trinity blood,gundam seed
1. Tsubasa Chronicle - Any fan of Cardcaptor Sakura would love this.
2. Bleach - As awsome an anime as they get.
3. One Piece - Great action, great comedy, great anime.
Any of those will make you forget about Naruto for a while.
Cowboy Bebop.
Hmmm...Bleach eh...Whats with you guys and porn!??!? 0_o Weirdos.....get help...=P lol, I dun really like Full Metal..=/ I watched One Piece on CN...It sickened me, but looking over the forums everyone said One Piece is totally different from what CN did to it, I'll check out Bleach and One Piece, I never heard of Bleach until I came here, Hoping its good. I liked Inuyasha for awhile.....but now....It bores the fack outta me....Porn....hmmm.... Porn Or Bleach, Help me choose people!!!=P
Full Metal Alchamist or Full Metal Panic? I didn't like Panic and refused to watch Alchamist because I thought they were related like the other Full Metals.
You will forget Naruto after watching Bleach.
CN totally screwed One Piece. Watch the subbed version from kaizoku - fansubs
and last but not least get some good porn.
Bleach...Downloading first four episodes of Bleach...Sounds good, Got high hopes, never tried Panic, Alchemist I didn't like at all. Hoping Bleach is good. Hmmm....Porno freaks....I must find some porn =P
for bleach, make sure u watch at least 10 eps before deciding to ditch it.... it might start off a tad slow but things go at a ridiculous pace eventually =]
Hunter x Hunter, go watch it.
Wow did you just say you didn't like Fullmetal Alchemist. You are the first person I know that doesn't. Anyway Bleach is probably the way to go. Oh yeah and like Jadugar keeps saying there is nothing like some good old porn. mmmm porn[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: Lucifus
Bleach...Downloading first four episodes of Bleach...Sounds good, Got high hopes, never tried Panic, Alchemist I didn't like at all. Hoping Bleach is good. Hmmm....Porno freaks....I must find some porn =P
Absolutely right. I didnt like the pace and story in the beginning but then it jump on you. Its like you see all the pieces of puzzle but cant make out what it is.Quote:
Originally posted by: Honoko
for bleach, make sure u watch at least 10 eps before deciding to ditch it.... it might start off a tad slow but things go at a ridiculous pace eventually =]
Trust us, you are in good hand.
Any luck in finding some porn.
I would recommend these series
* Full Metal Panic - It's a great show
* Full Metal Panic The Second Raid - sequel to the first FMP
* Basilisk -Probably the best show now a days, I used to think naruto was best but those damn filler episodes sickens me..
* Gundam Seed - GREAT SHOW
* Gundam Seed Destiny - sequel to GSD, really good until episode 38 then it went downwards, still good though.
* Samurai Deeper Kyo - Only me likes this but it's cool to watch, Kyo is badass!!
* Starzinger - lol, great show!!
* Robotech - the first season, wtf happened to the sequals, they sucked long times and broadwise
* Blue Gender - Hell why not???
* Ninja Scrolls - theres a great movie, then the series was quite good also..
* Hellsing - Really liked this series, alucard is badass!!!
And i would recommend some cosplay porn, it's nice to see lacus in real sexscense..
Lol, yes theres some alternitaves, hope you find one of these good..
Check em out..
Hahaha, I worried if I in good hands, all I'm hearing left right and center is porn,=P hmm...Cosplay....sakura.... Anyway, got the first 8 episodes, Had to close the rest of downloads cause my bro complaining about bandwidth, alright, Isso, thanks for that reply, check em out, btw, whats robotech? Some kind of classic first anime series? Been hearing about it. Oh yeah..I've had some luck finding porn..There might be something to this..porn...=)
Forget about Robotech...
just download the original japanese version Super Dimensional Fortress Macross
Though it's not something I'd recommend for someone that watches Naruto...
I have watched and enjoyed al of these series.. so just "because you like naruto you wount like the others" aint true.. I bet you find some of these really good..
As Budweineken said, robotech is the american version of Super Dimensional Fortress Macross.. It's a really old series, but i liked it! lol.. moslty because i watched it when i was young.... the time before i knew that the thing i was watching was anime..
THE SEREIES THAT MADE ME WATCH ANIME!!! Neon genesis evangelion, it's a good show.. a little more mature, a bit complex.. But it's really cool.. it's from 97 or something.. look at it!! it's great!
AND WTF.. I have forgotten Rurouni Kenshin.. ITS ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS.. It's a about a hitkori (assasin).. REally good.. you must watch..
And tenjou tenge.. humongos breast and thining panties combined with cool fighting..
And Trigun.. It's a good show!!!
Now i have given you advice..
But Kenshin.. watch it some consider it better than naruto.. it makes you feel the same feelings..
Kenshin is good...
along with Full Metal Panic (first season is alright, fumoffu (kinda season 1.5) is the funniest anime i've ever seen, and The second raid is pretty close to being a masterpiece)..
Full Metal Alchemist is quite good too (Best full series i've seen)...
as far as ongoing series go... Bleach and FMP:TSR are the best imho... although there are other pretty good ones
Bleach
Full Metal Panic!
Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid
Cowboy Bebop
Samurai Champloo
Full Metal Alchemist
Gundam Seed
Gundam Seed Destiny
Gundam 0079
That should keep you busy. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Bleach is like Naruto....................0_o eh...can't agree with that...but definatly keeping my time.
Yea I really don't see how people compare Bleach to Naruto, the shows are completely different. Now go and download Basilisk so you can see some real ninja action.
If you enjoyed Naruto you'll probably also love Full Metal Alchemist and Hunter x Hunter. FMA is quite different from Naruto. If you want something in the ninja category and can handle mature subjects and more gore/ adult material go watch Ninja Scroll or Basilisk.
Kenshin is great if you enjoy the samurai showdown kinds of shows.
If you want something diffrent from naruto, then go for FMA its kind of diffrent well the main idea is... Anyway, I watched few Ep of FMP and it was funny so you should watch it too. GDS, that's the only GD that I watched and its good! And watch Samurai Champloo its good and Cowboy Bebop really good and D N Angle....very childish but I still like it!
Resurrecting one of my old topics, I have now completed:
FMA-5 Stars!! I didn't like the it at first, but the later episodes really got me hooked
Trigun-4 Star, nothing too special, but worth watching
Naruto-5 Star- Negative five stars to the fillers......Naruto has a negative IQ.....
Samurai Champloo-5 Star-Havn't finished watching, but from what I've seen, it rules
Bleach-5 Star!!- Nuff said,...........If only there were women like Yoruchi in this damn world................
Basilisk- Just started watching 5 Star-NO SEEDS T-T
Suzuka-4 Star-Worth watching, hoping for an ova or 2
Aquarion-3 stars
Shakugan no Shana-4 Stars Seems interesting
Fate-stay night- 5 Star!, Am loving this, its keeping me entertained weekly now that Naruto and Bleach have gone to the dogs
And can't bother to remember anymore, Now.....I'm currently watching Basilisk, Shakugan no Shana, and Fate Stay Night, now......Please....Tell me some more good anime!!! And Oh ya, I got this text file full of accounts to porn websites, so now I have free porn for life.....Thank you God. You guys were right, porn is entertaining....
You really need to watch Rurouni Kenshin. Just an awesome Anime all around. However, my personal favorite is the Rurouni Kenshin OVA series, simply genius, never have I seen an OVA series combine together action+drama+romance+mystery all into 4 OVA episodes. Just amazing. ^_^
Hehe, I forgot to mension Samurai X, Watched the entire series on TV, they probably cut out the good parts though, they called it Samurai X o.0. I loved that anime, it got me into Anime hands down, It was the first real Anime series I watched. 5 Stars! Whats the OVA series? o.0
Watch Gungrave, Mai Hime, Otogizoushi 1-13, stay away from 14-26 as the show goes through a time jump and gets really crappy and the greatness that is Yu Yu Hakasho.
Since you seem to preffer the shounen type, I'll recommend the best two out there:
One Piece and Hunter X Hunter
You should also watch Yu Yu Hakusho and Marchen Awakens Romance
O_o.... I just may shoot you.Quote:
Originally posted by: LucifusWhats the OVA series? o.0
Rurouni Kenshin OVA
Download it, watch it, love it!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
As for the subtitles, I think all you need to do is drag and drop the file into the video to make them work. I think it's dual audio as well, so adjust it so the audio is in Japanese, obviously. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
-Update-
Wow, my firsts posts here on Gotwoot were really messed up. =P
Seen list:
LIKE
Elfen Lied+++++++=D
Solty Rei++
One Piece+++
Hunter X Hunter+++
Basilisk+++
Naruto++
Bleach++
Samurai Champloo++
Fate/ Stay Night+++
Shakugan no Shana++
Full Metal Alchemist
Samurai X++
Outlaw Star
Trigun
Cowboy Bebop
The Melancholy of Hahuri Suzumiya+++
Gundam Seed
Gundam Wing
Shingetsutan Tsukihime++
Chrono Crusade++
ARIA
Eureka seveN
Evangelion+++
Mai Otome
Suzuka++
Yu Yu Hakusho+++
Ghost in the shell
Shuffle
PORN!
Dislike
Too bored to write em now.
Dislike animes like FLCL,noisy annoying stuff that goes nowhere.=P
Number 1 Anime: One Piece
If your a noob/experienced user and havn't got the balls to try this anime. I swear, if I become rich, I'll find your address, fly over to your house and Bitch Slap you like you've never been bitch-slapped before, Understand?!
Check out this thread.:)
http://forums.gotwoot.net/showthread.php?t=12877
Also, Hunter X Hunter is a close second to One Piece.
Currently Watching list:
One Piece
Naruto
Bleach
Ergo Proxy
Black Lagoon
Tokko
Utawarerumono
Witch Blade
Blood+
Theres my update.
Still looking for more anime, name me some more.:D
To all the woot community that got me started, Thank you. :cool:
Excellent advice, the Porn was good too.:)
I wonder how many hours of my life I've spent watching anime.......
I need to do something for my harddrive, its served me well, Gbs upon gbs.
hmm.. i say samurai champloo is good - good samurai action & it's a nice & funny anime
school rumble - IT'S reallly cute and FUNNNY as! :)
bleach - it's creative, i reckon it's short though
@ Lucifus: You've seen so many anime, where do you find the time to watch it all? you luucky thing, you. :eek:
Heh heh. If you call that short list many... Actually I can't believe that's his seen list. It must be the ones he has watched recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisaa
Actually, thats all T-T, Recommend me some anime! I prolly missed out like 5 half watched series but thats it. =P
If you thought that was short.................you should see someone like Bud, or BoCs list.:D
Nah. As long as Elfen Lied is missing from your list, I'm not gonna suggest anything to you...
What on earth does that mean? "If you think that was short, see Bud's or BoC's list"? I think Bud and BoC should have very long lists indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucifus
Oh rofl, I meant it the other way around. xD, meaning they had very long lists.:rolleyes:
My bad. Oh snap, how could I forget about Elfen Lied??? Somethings wrong with me.
Edit: Added to list. =)
Uhm... any show that's got more than 50 episodes qualify as long to me (especially when its over 86 with no end in sight)Quote:
Originally Posted by lisaa
Two shows going on that i'm recommanding to every one
Zipang and Eureka Seven
Along with Blood +, i think those are my favourite ongoing shows.
Gankutsuou, Planetes, and Infinite Ryvius are my three favorite series. Coincidentally, they're all set in a futuristic "space age" era. EVERYONE needs to watch these! Gankutsuou is simply the best series ever made. If you think any other series is the best, you have not watched Gankutsuou. If you don't know anything about it, it's a futuristic anime remake of The Count of Monte Cristo.
Anyway, watch all three of those.
~~Some other series I liked:
Crest of the Stars/Banner of the Stars 1/2/3
Gunslinger Girl
Samurai 7
Kare Kano (AKA His and Her Circumstances)
Noir
Hikaru no Go (about the board game "Go," but is an amazing series)
Azumanga Daioh
Berserk ( *The power of Christ compels you to read the manga after you finish the series* )
Haibane Renmei
Vision of Escaflowne
Boogiepop Phantom
~~Anime movies I like that you have probably seen:
Akira
Mind Game
Grave of the Fireflies
Wings of Honneamise
Beyond the Clouds (AKA The Place Promised in Our Early Days)
FF7: Advent Children (I'm a fanboy)
Full Metal Alchemist: The Conquerer of Shambala
Steamboy
Appleseed
Porco Rosso
Jin-Roh
Howl's Moving Castle
Kiki's Delivery Service
mage, you should give Legend of Galactic Heroes a try... I think you'll like it since you seem to like "futuristic space-age" type of animes. Given, it's an old OVA series, but it's an amazing one at that.
Looks at Lucifus list and wonders why awesome shows like Gungrave, Airmaster(for the fights),Mai Hime, Gunslinger Girl, Getbackers, and Kannaduki no Miko aren't on there. Ok so I only watched the first two eps of Kannaduki no Miko but it looks interesting goes to watch ep3 before sleep.
Hmmm here is my list gonna rank them from 1-5 , 5 being the most and 1 being the least.
GTO: 5+ (Anime end about 5 volume b4 the actual manga finish go read it or you'll miss some really good parts)
Hunter X Hunter: 5+
One Piece: 5+
Onmyou Taisenki: 4
School Rumble: 5
MAR'S: 4
Beet the Vandel Buster: 3
Chobits: 5
Fushigi Yuugi: 4
Da Capo: 3
Cowboy Beebop: 4
Chrono Crusade: 4
Aishiteruze Baby: 4 (Manga complete the storyline, go read if you're a fan)
Fate Stay Night: 5
Detective Conan: 5
Flame of Recca: 3 (Anime end halfway through the manga with a really crappy made up ending, go read manga)
Gundam Seed: 5
Gundam Seed Destiny: -1
Cromartie High: 4
Ai Yori Aoishi / Ai Yori Aoishi Enishi: 4
Ah My Goddess: 5
Azumanga Daioh: 4
FLCL: 5
Amaenaideyo: 2
Bleach: 3 (it dropping due to filler -_-)
Fruit Basket: 5 (Anime finish/manga haven't go read)
Full Metal Alchemist : 5
Full Metal Panic: 4
Girl Bravo: 1
Gundam Wing: 1
G Gundam: 4
Hikaru no go: 4 (manga continue for a bit longer, however the ending in both manga and anime is crappy reason why i gave it a 4 instead of 5)
Happy Lesson/Advance: 3
Honey to Clover: 3
Inuyasha: 1
Kyou Kara Maou: 4
Louie the Rune Soldier: 4
Love Hina + Ova: 4 (even after Love Hina Again there still 1 volume of manga that was left out, go read if you want the complete story)
Maburaho: 5
Mahou Sensei Negima: 3
Naruto: 2 (same as bleach)
Onegai Teacher: 3
Onegai Twin: 3
Outlaw Star: 4
Ranma 1/2: 5
Rurouni Kenshin: 5 (Anime ended in the middle of a filler GO READ MANGA the Last few volume is awesome.)
Ragnarok The Animation: 1
Samurai Champloo: 4
Star Ocean EX: 2
Shaman King: 4
Shuffle: 4
Sorcerer Hunter: 1
Suzuka: 4 (Manga continue the storyline, however the manga release has been slow, continue reading at your own risk)
Trigun: 5
Tenchi Muyo/Universe/Tokyo: 3
Tenchi GXP: 5
Tenjou Tenge: 3 (Manga continue the storyline, i feel that anime focus a bit TOO much on the flashback, it was good nonetheless though)
Tsubasa Chronicle: 4
Vandread: 4
UFO Princess Valkyrie: 2
Witch Hunter Robin: 3
Yu Yu Hakusho: 3
Zoids Genesis: 4
Zoids Zero: 3
Zoids Fuzor: 1
Zoids Chaotic Century: 4
Zatch Bell: 4
Neon Genesis Evangelion: 4
Mahoromatic: 2 (cause of crappy ending)
Houshin Engi: 3
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: 4
Dragon Ball: 5
DBZ/DBGT: 2
Shakugan no Shana: 3
Hungry Heart Wildstriker: 4
Whistle: 4
Hajime no ippo: 5
Captain Tsubasa: 5
Cyborg 009: 5
Saint Seiya: 5
Dears: 3
Samurai Deeper Kyo: 1
Doraemon: 5
Xenosaga: 1
Slayers (all series): 4
Elfen Lied: 5
Eureka 7: 3
Galaxy Angel: 2
Gantz: 4 (Manga if you want to know more of the story)
Get Backers: 4
Ghost in a Shell SAC: 4
Karin: 3
Lupin the 3rd: 5
Mai-hime: 3
Mobile Suit Gundam: 5
MSG: Chars Counter Attack: 1
MSG: 0080: 4
Monster: 5
Record of Lodoss War: 5
Rizelmine: 2
S-cry-ed: 3
The Law of Ueki: 4
Edit: forgot these 2
Ichigo 100%: If i were to give this a score there wouldn't be enough room to add all the 0 i want to put after the -1 PLEASE go read the manga, comeon? trying to cram 19 volume into 12 episode and 5 OVA? it ruin the series completely and the manga is very good.
Scrapped Princess: 4
Edit 2:
.hack//sign: 3
.hack//legend of twilight: 3
I's: 1, 8 episode from a 15 volume manga series, go read manga
Midori No Hibi: 3 (manga better go read it)
Video Girl Ai: 1, 12 volume + 2 volume side story into 6 episode...., go read manga
Futakoi Alternative: 4
Ginban Kaleidoscopre: 4
Yakitate Japan: 5
Mahoraba: 4
Kimagure Orange Road: 5
Mamotte Shugogetten: 4
Midori no Hibi: 3 (manga better imo, go read it)
Paranoia Agent: 4
Tales of Eternia: 2
The Beating-to-Death Angel Dokuro Chan(hilarious anime, alot of blood though, don't watch if you don't like seeing blood.)
W-wish: 2
Wolf Rain: 3 (despite this being popular with alot of people i didn't like it so much)
These are the series that i have either seen completely or more then 20 episodes of, there a few that i'm currently watching, will add those to list at another time.
Guess I'll chip in my list too, with a few comments about my ratings. Descending alphabetically:
5 - favorites:
Hikaru no Go
Honey & Clover
Rurouni Kenshin: Reminiscence
4 - recommended:
Berserk
Full Metal Alchemist
Great Teacher Onizuka
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Scrapped Princess
3 - good
Aishiteruze Baby
Ayashi no Ceres
Bleach
Cowboy Bebop
Escaflowne
Fate - Stay Night
Full Moon wo Sagashite
Hajime no Ippo
Hunter X Hunter (and OVAs)
Stellvia of the Universe
Tsubasa Chronicle
2 - fair
Card Captor Sakura
Full Metal Panic! Fumoffu
Gunslinger Girl
Initial D
Inuyasha
Monster
Naruto
One Piece
Rurouni Kenshin
Shura no Toki
Suzuka
1 - poor
Gungrave
Ichigo 100%
Onegai Twins
Otogizoushi
Peace Maker Kurogane
Prince of Tennis
Shingetsutan Tsukihime
0 - horrible
Kono Minikukumo Mo Utsukushii Sekai
Melody of Oblivion
Some comments on the lower-rated stuff:
Gungrave: It seems like lots of people here like this series. I watched it a while ago, and it didn't really click with me despite having many similarities to Berserk. I remember that the voicing of their names (Harry, Brandon) was especially annoying. Although name-butchering happens quite often in anime, this really was a bit much. I also have a tendency to favor medieval settings over futuristic ones, so guns were probably a turn-off for me.
Ichigo 100%: Awful translation to anime, but the manga series was heart-wrenching the first four times I (re-)read it. The ecchi content is really a turn-off - the story would've been much better without it.
Monster
I stopped following the series at episode 52. Monster is a good drama series, but it just kept going and going, and I lost interest.
One Piece: While I'm loving the One Piece manga (avatar and sigs and all...), its translation to anime really lacks something. I'm not sure what it is - whether it's fillers, pacing, or maturity level - but there've been times where I've lost interest in following the series so I can't rate it higher.
Shingetsutan Tsukihime: Similar to Gungrave for me - I watched it a few years ago, and it didn't leave much of an impression.
Dear all that is holy Dark Dragon.........................
I'll probably watch some of the series on your list, but I never want to watch that many. Too risky man, i'd probably die of radiation from my monitor.:o
Well, thats a very long list. Bound to be some good series in there somewhere.:cool: And I seem to like the same types of series I do, though I really dislike FLCL.=P
Heh heh. I was actually thinking Dark Dragon's list looked realistic, as opposed to your unnaturally short one, Lucifus!
If I were to list here the anime I have seen, it would resemble that list, maybe with 15-20% of divergence. But going through them and adding scores would be too troublesome... Although I do have nearly all listed in an Access database, but not any ratings.
When I look at Augury's list, I can't help but wonder how different people can evaluate particular series so differently. But I suppose that's an integral part in the appreciation of art.
Edit:I checked Dark Dragon's list in Word, and it had ~133 titles. That's already more than I have watched, and below he tells he probably forgot many. I'm not sure if I have quite watched full 100 titles.
don't worry lol, my list is extremely long (i doubt that all of it on the list probably more i forgot about, will add at a later time)because i been watching anime for a long time, you can tell too, i don't think there that many people that has watch Doraemon and Captain Tsubasa if they has then kudos because both are great series, but eh Doraemon is probably only good because i seen it when i was like 5 year old (roughly 15 year ago).
Wow, this is a big series. 110 episodes, 52 "side-story" episodes, and three movies! I'll definitely watch this some time soon. Have you seen all of the main series/gaiden/movies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Budweineken
You're a freak if you remembered all those from your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
No, I haven't finished watching it... I'm waiting for Central-Anime to finish releasing it, they've just released episode 79 yesterday or something. I'm currently at episode 64 or so.
no lol, i only remember about like 20, had to go back and look up the rest but i do remember if i like the series or not though.
edit: and yeah that probably most of what i seen, couple more title at best.
Animes I really like? Well, there's a few I have in the back of my head.
Monster
Dark. Really fucking dark. This anime loves to get you thinking "oh gosh, everything will be okay now" only to then throw the most disgusting and deprived acts in your face. I love it. No, I REVEL in it. More stuff like this would be awesome.
Gundam SEED
Yeah, it had a lot of short-comings and there were things I would have liked to be.... different. But still, it's one of the most emotional animes I've watched to date. Bringing forth both joy, tears and sheer rage with equal flair. It had a seriously awesome character gallery too.
Basilisk: Kouga Ninpou Chou
Gore, awesome fights and no pointless filler. Tenzen remains one my favorite villains due to his unprecedented cruelty and affinity to rape characters who "deserves it." It's a must watch if you're interested in ninja animes at all.
Hunter X Hunter
Old but still much better than most shounen stuff out there. Gon is one the few protagonists who doesn't piss me off and Hisoka is simply awesome. Superb character gallery both when it comes to protagonists and antagonists.
Berserk
Probably recommended at least a hundred times so I won't bother summing it up. A must watch.
Ragnarok The Animation
Yeah, I know a lot of people HATE it. I however, LOVE it. Why? ZEPHYRUS ( click and behold )! Best and most fucking believable character ever to grace an anime. Bar none. The premise of an XP farmer gone absolutely batshit insane is just too awesome. Plus, I can relate to his casting issues as a fellow mage.
I can't say I care much for the rest of the characters ( hell, I don't even recall most of their names! ) but Zephyrus alone makes this one of my favorite animes. The way he exited the anime was the best way I've seen for a villain thus far.
In short and with plenty of blatant adoration; GO ZEPHYRUS!11!1!