well raw is out and i am bored so i strted thread. Anyway you can get raw here.
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well raw is out and i am bored so i strted thread. Anyway you can get raw here.
plz post the english version here if it is out already... thx!
YEY, this episode will rock i hope..
damn it..can't download till monday..
but been readin' the review..DAMN..this episode is good.
This ep kicked ass. The dom's rape. I mean they look so fucking cool and they kick ass. Then we get the encounter of shinn vs Freedom. In the preview you see Shinn going nuts with the sword... LOL wait till you see what Freedom does. I'm not gonna spoil too much of this ep. Just this was great. Kira fricken is awesome. And then Infinite Justice comes on the scene. Damn I can't wait to hear what Shinn says. lol
Kick ass episode, can't wait for the sub and the next episode [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
and yes, the dom's rape ass...
DAMN, DAMN U GUYS....MAKING ME WANT TO C THE RAW....*desperately clicking on the raw download link*
Fun episode, kinda of teaser that Justice doesn't launch until the end.
Oh thought I would mention this. If any naysayers still exist on the subject of Neo being Mwu who did indeed survive the destruction of Strike. I highly reccommend you pay attention to this ep. Especially after two missiles are about to hit AA when Minerva is in the fight against them. There is a certain line spoken.
I so luv this ep...i think all episodes after phase 35 are good to watch,those DOM's really rape n that woman leading them looks sexy with the eyepatch
LOL best episode ever. It has good fights, some intresting talks( juding from RAW), good twists of evences. It is a MUST SEE episode. and as for preview for next episode, it looks as it will be same rank as this one. hmmm Fukuda realy turned intensity up after last episode.
Yes,Infinite Justice's appearance will surely rankle ZAFT and i wonder about its fighting styles...should be cool
Just saw the raw, can't wait for the episode to be subbed. Excellent, making the impossible possible...sweet. This is a GREAT episode, had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Now we know why Freedom and Justice were holding hands during the 41 preview.
It's nice how Shinn understands how he would of been raped 100x's over if Kira's side guns were beams and not substance rifles. Also, Destiny has a power supply?? ....Does DESTINY really use soooo much energy that it can deplete a nuclear reactor within a few minutes???? If so, Destiny is not a very practical Gundam.
Oh ya... POWER INDUCATOR!!! Long live Japan's horrible misspelling powers!! But seriously, is it THAT hard to find someone who is proficient in both Japanese and English... especially in such a big company.
Kick ass episode, the doms are AMAZING they remind me hockey players, SPECTACULAR. After watching it, i think ATHRUN wont be able to do much, Meyring is helping him to walk for christ sake how is he supposed to pilot IJustice at Destiny or Legend's Level?. I was so happy when i saw Yuna after the nice beating, u must see that. I cant belive Kira is having some trouble with Shinn [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img], but thank god he isnt fighting so seriously, yet. One thing i dont like was, there r 3 MS in ETERNAL, i think 1 is SFreedom the other IJustice, please dont tell me Shinn will use the last one. Wait a minute was the third one GAIA? (let it be, someone could answer that?). Still no signs of Izak or Deaka [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img], how much r they planning to make us wait?.
RESUME: Very ns episode, fortunately i waited until it was completed b4 trying to play it, i waited too to watch it b4 posting something Phase 43 will be... I dont know, but i hope it will kick ass too.
Me want sub and i too wonder how athrun will fight, he looks pretty beat up.
But i'm looking forward to Kira/Athrun vs Shinn/Rey. Who is the best team players?
Kira kicks a** omg gave me some goosebumps.....lol...embarass someone really bad(don't want to mention the name but u know who it is)...LOL LMAO
this episode rocks! at least we got to see Shinn getting pissed off, again, coz he cant seem to overpower one mobile suit, Strike Freedom. I think Neo said something like "making the impossible, possible" or something... the DOM MS are rocking!! that formation is cool, I just think they move funny..hovering on the ground, sliding through enemies...hehe, its till next episode we see Justice in action, so ppl fasten your seatbelts..
this episode is to cool only Kira can block a beam with another beam and Mwu was to cool I cant wait for the sub
Oh, Awesome Awesome AWESOME! Will someone please get that hit on GIF for me? Let's see, a quick recap, ORB vs. ZAFT, Destiny Vs. Akatsuki, Destiny vs. Freedom, Lacus in a pink flight suit *drool*, Lacus in her "ninja" outfit *double drool*, DOM Lightstream Attack, and Cagalli vs. Yuuna. I won't say any more because it will spoil it all. Now for the kill count of the episode:
Freedom: 16
Akatsuki: 2
Destiny: 7
ZAFT Grunts: 7, 1 Ship
ORB Grunts: 4
DOM Troopers: 15
Pretty good haul for the day I'd say. Also, does anyone know what that third mobile suit in the Eternal's Hangar was? It doesn't look like Strike. From left to right the order was, Unknown, SF, and IJ, so what could that first one be?
If the rest of the series can keep this shit up....
Well, that will be freaking incredible.
I want a DOM. So. Bad. They are too freaking good.
Lacus looks good in a pilot suit.
Athrun + Kira = Ass whoopin' that Shinn and Rey cant begin to imagine. Shinn's long overdue, and this episode was the prepayment on a bill he's not even started to pay. Kira totally owned... he disarmed Destiny of its most powerful weapon, and all around rocked. To be fair, Shinn had expended some valuable weapons, but hey.
God, I cant wait for 43
Oh, yeah i forgot to metion that. Shinn really was pissed off because he couldnt overpower Freedom, now we know Destiny isnt Nuclear powered. It looks too, like DRAGOON really cant work in Earth's Atmosphera, such a shame.
I really didnt like Lacus in the Pink Pilot Suit, but i was drooling all over my keyboard when i saw her in the, i think is a short black ninja suit.
When Meyring saw her she was like "WTH now i have to compete against Cagalli and Lacus-sama". Cant wait to see how Athrun pilots IJustice.
Now something that has been bothering since Phase 39, Why Kira and Athrun dont call the MS by its names? It is Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, they make them sound a little cheap every time they sortie "Freedom" "Justice".
BTW, i think the Doms will be way better in Space, i think one of the pilots mentioned something like "The Earth's Gravity really is something" or something around those lines. Doms really are something.
Minerva's Captain really needs to change sides, she is losing authority aboard Minerva, next time Rey will be giving orders on how to attack AA.
Next Saturday i will be having classes so i will watch it around 5 hours after most of u so have fun assisting to the PREMIERE. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
I like how they refer to them as just Freedom and Justice. Referring to them by their full names would be.... unrealistic?
I was so happy in 39 when Kira said freedom and not strike freedom.
I thought it was interesting that some Orb soldiers turned traitor to help Djbril. I could be wrong (I don't know what they are saying) but it looked like some soldiers came to arrest him and they were killed by other soldiers.
Oh, and Guardian, I still refuse to admit Neo might be Mwu. Extreme coincidence, thats all it is.
http://www.hiro-fansubs.com/ The subbed version by HIRO is out, enjoy guys
Someone beat me to the punch.
Thanks for the subbed link!!
You gotta love the Cagalli punch.
No... Destiny IS nuclear powered... either A.) The directors screwed up or B.) It has something to do with the whole Duetrion factor.Quote:
Oh, yeah i forgot to metion that. Shinn really was pissed off because he couldnt overpower Freedom, now we know Destiny isnt Nuclear powered. It looks too, like DRAGOON really cant work in Earth's Atmosphera, such a shame.
DESTINY MOS -
G - Gunnery
U - United
N - Nuclear
D - Duetrion
A - Advanced
M - Maneuver
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Originally posted by: Strike Freedom
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wow! i really enjoy those DOM trooper, they look soooo cooool.wahahahahaahhaah bulldozing their way thru those ZAKUs.they have a combo too! interesting!
i wonder where did lacus find those pliots.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
oh 1 more thing the look of shin's face when he saw SF kekekeekekeke[img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img]
It could be, and it looks like Destiny has two power sources because the screen where the remain power appears are two counters that says "PRIMARY" and "SECONDARY". If its nuclear powered, then we know how much attacks Shinn does with so little effect. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img].Quote:
Originally posted by: zn|¹
No... Destiny IS nuclear powered... either A.) The directors screwed up or B.) It has something to do with the whole Duetrion factor.Quote:
Oh, yeah i forgot to metion that. Shinn really was pissed off because he couldnt overpower Freedom, now we know Destiny isnt Nuclear powered. It looks too, like DRAGOON really cant work in Earth's Atmosphera, such a shame.
DESTINY MOS -
G - Gunnery
U - United
N - Nuclear
D - Duetrion
A - Advanced
M - Maneuver
Good question about where Lacus found the Dom Trooper's Pilots. Now it wouldnt be so surprising if Lacus really has a GENESIS up her sleeve, this girls says "PEACE" yet she has pretty nice toys. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]. So sexy, Kira was lucky to met her.
Lucky dog indeed, but I wouldn't want to piss her off if I was Kira [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
Good question about where Lacus found the Dom Trooper's Pilots. Now it wouldnt be so surprising if Lacus really has a GENESIS up her sleeve, this girls says "PEACE" yet she has pretty nice toys. [img][/img]. So sexy, Kira was lucky to met her.
There's one thing that bugs me. The only Nuclear suit in existance was Freedom. After the war, the N-Jammer Canceller was banned, thus making Nuclear suits impossible to make. Meaning that Dullindal is breaking some MAJOR regulations here to give them power.
things i learned from this episode:
a) shinn acts just like an emo druggie. he doesnt wanna back out of the fight and he keeps wanting to go after the protagonist. go figure >_>"no.. i can still fight!" *screenshot of dead power in his gundam*
b) lacus does a magical jump from her flight suit to her katana suit without anyone else noticing.
c) the black tri-stars live again! ... and now do a jet stream attack... *yawns* so its ANOTHER trinity. what else is new?
for the most part, the episode was enjoyable. except athrun's character development is still making me go wtf? i wanted to just skip past it because it was soooo boring. it seemed to bog down thet pace of the episode from super fast to 'must give athrun some time to realize who he truly is because he doesnt know and lacus must tell him'.
I'll be honest, I agree. I've had it with Athuran's development, I mean how much longer. It really feels that out of the the three (Shinn, Kira & Athuran), he is the main character. He's always been there, not that there is anything wrong with that. I like Athuran, I just wish he wasn't so indecisive anymore. I mean, after leaving the Minerva, he was pretty set on the chairman being the villian. What gives with him still being perplexed? I really hope Athuran goes SEED, although I highly doubt it. But hey, one can dream. Rey and Shinn both need to be given a reality check, especially Shinn who is over confident. Complacency is dangerous. So we'll c what happens, but JUSTICE better bring some hell of a counter attack. From the look of things, Athuran gives Shinn his regular speech, but Shinn attacks anyhow. Well, if Athuran is playing a parent figure by giving lectures, then he needs to give the disobedient child a good spanking. I'm sorry, but I just cannot stand Shinn anymore with his arrogant attitude.Quote:
Originally posted by: Miro69
things i learned from this episode:
a) shinn acts just like an emo druggie. he doesnt wanna back out of the fight and he keeps wanting to go after the protagonist. go figure >_>"no.. i can still fight!" *screenshot of dead power in his gundam*
b) lacus does a magical jump from her flight suit to her katana suit without anyone else noticing.
c) the black tri-stars live again! ... and now do a jet stream attack... *yawns* so its ANOTHER trinity. what else is new?
for the most part, the episode was enjoyable. except athrun's character development is still making me go wtf? i wanted to just skip past it because it was soooo boring. it seemed to bog down thet pace of the episode from super fast to 'must give athrun some time to realize who he truly is because he doesnt know and lacus must tell him'.
Well, the EAF broke the treaty first when they launched nukes at PLANT. After that it wouldn't surprise me that he felt he was no longer restricted by that treaty. Also the Mirage Coloid was banned in the same treaty, it was used by the Girty Lue when it was waiting for the gundams to be stolen, and now in Destiny.Quote:
Originally posted by: redemption2
There's one thing that bugs me. The only Nuclear suit in existance was Freedom. After the war, the N-Jammer Canceller was banned, thus making Nuclear suits impossible to make. Meaning that Dullindal is breaking some MAJOR regulations here to give them power.
Personally I'm waiting to judge that part to see the results. If we still have the wishy-washy indecisive Athrun we have had most of Destiny then I will consider it bad since it accomplished nothing. If, however, he acctually gets his head on straight after this then it is a great part that should have happened 25 episodes ago.Quote:
Originally posted by: Miro69
except athrun's character development is still making me go wtf? i wanted to just skip past it because it was soooo boring. it seemed to bog down thet pace of the episode from super fast to 'must give athrun some time to realize who he truly is because he doesnt know and lacus must tell him'.
Ok i now i watched the sub vers i find it interesting how Rey spoke of Freedom.
He said they meant to provoke him and that SF is a phantom, so Rey still thinks Kira is dead?
I didn't know the Dom trio was on Clyne faction side, to bad they are bound to die.
All trios have died so far, pity since i found them interesting.
Since a few wondered about the dom trio, here is some info:
"At least three DOM Troopers are built by the Clyne Faction at Terminal, whose pilots include Hilda Harken (team leader, pilot of unit 003), Herbert Von Reinhardt (pilot of unit 004), and Mars Simeon (pilot of unit 009), veterans of the Second Battle of Jachin Due who joined the Clyne Faction after the war's end. Their specialty is the "Jet Stream Attack", which allows them to combine the power of three mobile suit into one through a highly synchronized attack. This maneuver involves the three DOMs attacking a single target in rapid succession, with each pilot using a different weapon"
^info from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZGMF-XX09T_DOM_Trooper
I'm pretty sure the third suit in the hanger was Gaia or possibly Strike being repaired, I'll have to watch that part again to be certain. As for Destiny running out of power it could just be that Duetrion is some type of nuclear fuel, different from regular batteries to provide the power that Destiny requires to operate its engines to move at such speed and sustaine the phase shift armor, but still limited in operation time. The Chairman is trying to stay good in the public eye and using illegal tech like n-jammer cancelers might give him a bad reputation or maybe something that can be used against him by the politicians who knows.
Is it mentioned in Destinys specs that the extra images are provided by a Mirage Coloid system? I must have missed that somehow if it is cause then I can't fathom why the Chairman wouldnt use a true nuclear engine.
Unless it is some major oversight, I would have to say that Destiny is not nuclear powered at all. There is no way it could drain a reactor from the stuff it does while Strike Freedom is shooting a zillion beams everywhere, the power consumption ratios just dont add up.
cion thanks for the info on the DOM trooper[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
i m not sure they r bound to die but base on the usual crap of typical anime story line, they can at least last till those finally episode.
as for those character development i have only 1 thing to say abt athrun, he is just too confuse!
PS:i wonder is there any new toys from lacus heheheheheheheheh[img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img]
There were three units at the Eternal, i know one is IJ and SF, but whats the other one?
It must be Gaia, OR a new MS/Gundam FUKUDA planning to make money off from plamodels! Ahah im jk... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
ey
when kira blocked shin's sword and blasted him with the 2 rail guns.. how come shin didn't recieve any damage???
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He used his substance guns - due to Phase Shift armor substance guns do no damage to the Gundam -
That's why after he got shot he was screaming
If these were beams it would be over right now!! Is that what your trying to say!?
When Rey was talking about having a phantom I think he was talking about Neo because of the flashes early in the series.Quote:
Originally posted by: Cion
He said they meant to provoke him and that SF is a phantom, so Rey still thinks Kira is dead?
Acctually I think I owe somebody an apology because of this (can't remember who). The hip mounted guns on Freedom and SF are Railguns. They shoot EXTREMELY high velocity projectiles. Phase Shift armor protects against physical weapons. However there was an effect. Like already mentioned it seems that Destiny doesn't have a true nuclear engine (I'll give my opinion below) so it does have an energy limit. Taking point blank range blasts from those would require the Phase Shift to work overtime. It managed to protect the MS, but it drained a lot of energy to do so. Waltfeld demonstrated against Strike that hitting it with physical weapons may not damage it, but it does increase the rate at which the power for the PS is used.Quote:
Originally posted by: k_truong
ey
when kira blocked shin's sword and blasted him with the 2 rail guns.. how come shin didn't recieve any damage???
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????
As for the Destiny power supply, the nuclear may be just used because they were too lazy to come up with another word and wanted it to sound more powerful then Impulse. If you recall Kira had too hit the emergency shut off to prevent Freedom from going nuclear. Four other reasons come to mind:
[*]1. They probably don't expect it to be too far from Minerva which can recharge it useing the Duetrium (I'm too lazy to look up the spelling) system, infinate run time may not have been deemed necessary.
[*]2. The Mirage Coloid is used in Destiny to create the after-images, but it isn't acctually used AS the Mirage Coloid (it can't go invisible). Maybe Dullindal was trying to push the limit of what the treaty allowed.
[*]3. Again from the Junius 7 treaty, remember that Nuclear Jammer Cancelors were banned which meant they couldn't be built into Mobile Suits. The OS could be left over from the original design, but they never acctually included a nuclear engine. While the start-up does say "Nuclear" I don't recall anywhere acctually saying it did use nuclear.
[*]4. They considered Kira dead, and Athrun, Yzak, and Dearkka were in ZAFT so they probably didn't expect to face any enemies dangerous enough to be a threat to Destiny. If this is the case they may have cut back on going all out in building it. They made it quite clear that nobody (other then Rey) could even stand against it with it wasting all those Destroy's so easily.
It could be any and/or all of those (or none). I'm just naming posibilities.
It isn't
Gunnery
United
Nuclear
Duetrion
Advanced
Maneuver
It's
Gunnery
United
Nuclear -
Duetrion
Advanced
Maneuver
Why must everybody miss the dash.
If you dont belive me watch 36 again.
It's at 21:45 or around there.
1.) - I seriously doubt this; just because Minerva is near by doesn't mean that it will have the leeway to use its recharger (IE while its fighting Archangel - there is no way in hell that they can get within range or stay put long enough to recharge Destiny.)
2.) And this is relevant because....?
3.) If you've been following the story; that treaty has been blown out of the water since a while back. EAF attempted to use nuclear bombs, of course using neutron jammer canceler technology. And the whole "they were too lazy to make a new OS is ludicrous as well, because if that was true the OS would think that it is under unlimited energy leading everything to be out of whack.
4.) This theory just wouldn't work... they didn't consider Kira dead for a long long time in the series.. practically almost a few weeks before the first appearance of DESTINY itself. I think that it is impossible to build such a Gundam in a short time (then again it is the world of SEED.. but still).
It just doesn't make snese that a nuclear engine cannot be a "true" nuclear engine. It's either nuclear or it's not there's no inbetween - because if that were true, that means they took one step down and made Destiny an inferior Gundam on purpose... which is really really stupid.
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patience foolQuote:
Originally posted by: SKRuLLS
plz post the english version here if it is out already... thx!
Quote:
Originally posted by: zn|¹
1.) - I seriously doubt this; just because Minerva is near by doesn't mean that it will have the leeway to use its recharger (IE while its fighting Archangel - there is no way in hell that they can get within range or stay put long enough to recharge Destiny.)
2.) And this is relevant because....?
3.) If you've been following the story; that treaty has been blown out of the water since a while back. EAF attempted to use nuclear bombs, of course using neutron jammer canceler technology. And the whole "they were too lazy to make a new OS is ludicrous as well, because if that was true the OS would think that it is under unlimited energy leading everything to be out of whack.
4.) This theory just wouldn't work... they didn't consider Kira dead for a long long time in the series.. practically almost a few weeks before the first appearance of DESTINY itself. I think that it is impossible to build such a Gundam in a short time (then again it is the world of SEED.. but still).
Like I said, they were all just random ideas that I thought of that are possabilities. They could very well all be wrong. I said that when I posted them. Also I am fully aware that my writeing skills are sub-par. My theories are better then I am capable of typing out effectivly.
For your comments on #1 again, like I said, there were no enemies that were percieved as a threat. what Archangel could do against something like Destiny would be very limited without Freedom.
For your comments on #2, it is only relevent if Dullindal is trying to keep within the bounds of the treaty while pushing to it's limits.
For your comments on #3, I acctually mentioned the idea that the EAF had already ripped up the treaty on page 2 of this thread. And the lazy comment was about Fukuda being too lazy to make up a word to put in for the letter "N", not about the ZAFT people. Trust me, that lazy is HIGHLY probable.
And for your comments on #4, I didn't say they built it that quickly. It very well could have been mostly complete and they didn't finish it until after Kira was "killed" by Shinn. Designs can be changed in mid construction. Also they may have "watered down" the nuclear aspect to minimize potential risk of Destiny becoming a randomly moving A-Bomb.
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the scene with shin getting owned with the particle cannon was the best!!! it just shows that when kira got serious, he still has the upper hand on shin! lol shin, practice more "gayish talking with rey"! HAHA! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Kira vs Shinn is pretty much on the same level of Itachi vs Jiraiya. We'll never know who is the better one (except Itachi is the best).
Itachi is one bad-ass mofo.Quote:
Originally posted by: Mut@chi
Kira vs Shinn is pretty much on the same level of Itachi vs Jiraiya. We'll never know who is the better one (except Itachi is the best).
edit:
don't know if this helps but Shinn's suit is a Nuclear-Dueterion power system as someone pointed out earlier...
now i don't know how that works...
but wikipedia describes it as Ultracompact hyper-deuterion nuclear reactor with hyper capacitor (that doesn't really clear it up)...
but it does help us distinguish between those suits and Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice which are considered to be pure nuclear fission system (now i do know what nuclear fission is)...
so obviously Shinn running out of power shows that the deuterion system isn't as powerful as a pure fission system...don't know if that'll help...i just thought i'd add that in.
While I do think Kira is a much better pilot, I think the second battle will be more even. Shinn had deprived himself of 66% of his melee capabilities before Kira came, and Kira just took what was left away completely. Plus the story won't get very far if Kira keeps winning so easily. ^^;;
true, it would be interesting to see the second round, but enough of kira and shin! let athrun fight now!! we've been waiting for him for so long.. atleast now he knows what he is fighting for, not always making a hissing sound saying shin's name all time because he can't do anything.. now i hope athrun would kill rey..
So who else was really surprised that KIRA came and RESCUED someone IN THE LAST SECOND while Vestige was playing?
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I hate when I can predict stuff. It shows that the writers are overpaid. Because I'm stupid, yet I know what's gonna happen. Fuck that.
Other than that great episode. I liked the DOMs (Jetto Stream Attacku!), first time other than G Gundam I've seen someone scream attack names in a Gundam show.
I don't know what to say other than that, it was good stuff, though they BETTER explain why the hell Mwu was captured and brainwashed to begin with. I am quite sure they won't even talk about it though. All in the holy name of selling more model kits of course. And suddenly he remembers his old catchphrase too, wow. Man...
Well can't say I don't like it, but it's still a bit too much of the "okay here's how it is, Mwu is alive, just accept it". Bah.
And now all you Kira fanboys can be happy again as he once again showed that he cannot lose, is invincible, one-dimensional and overall boring to watch.
But I guess that doesn't matter when you are a silent guy with big guns on his gundam eh boys?
The episode was great but I can't help but be dissappointed with certain parts. Cagalli only lasted as long as she did because she sat and watched Shinn kill a bunch of other people in the middle of their fight. Kira v Shinn had some cool stuff happening but ending it on account of Shinn running out of power was lame, especially with how fast it happened, I mean Freedom lasted how many years without ever running out of power but Shinn drains his batteries in an afternoon of fighting. They had a fight between to ace pilots in overpowered suits and put it on hold so 1 can sit on a ship and the other can kill grunts. Also someone needs to be beaten like Yuuna for this whole Neo/Mwu part of the show. At least with a title like Voice of Counterattack we know we are gonna get to see Shinn get a stern talking to next week.
Oh well the DOMs were badass and Yuuna getting punched is always a fun thing to see.
man that was some of the best shit i ever seen considering wut we have have left to cover i hope things keep moving at this pace, and man i hate pink haired bitch she shows up says some bullshit and people are like "yes wut was i thinking!!!" shes boring as all hell to watch and listen too, its like watching freedome fight with words
she should die slowly and they should make a music video out of it
my gues is that Destiny uses a form of nuklear Fusion which uses Deuterion which gives a Higher energie output than the nuklear engine of Freedom Justise Providense Strike Freedom Infinite Justise and Legend which use conventional Nucklear engines which use the exact oposite of fusing atoms
so if Shin needs more power his engine needs to fuse more Deuterion and he needs a refil
indeed it doesn'tQuote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
And now all you Kira fanboys can be happy again as he once again showed that he cannot lose, is invincible, one-dimensional and overall boring to watch.
But I guess that doesn't matter when you are a silent guy with big guns on his gundam eh boys?
That was so beautiful.Quote:
Originally posted by: NeoBear
and man i hate pink haired bitch she shows up says some bullshit and people are like "yes wut was i thinking!!!" shes boring as all hell to watch and listen too, its like watching freedome fight with words
she should die slowly and they should make a music video out of it
what lovley chaos.....can't wait for the next episode....
OMFG GOd in Grey hell !!! Shin, Talia, Rey , jona and JIbril have the MILF factor, i just finished watching it and it was a really cool episode indeed, it made me orgasm. but i have one question,
1. the bit when they show you 3 gundams, it was I justice, S freedom, and unknown, what is the unknown gundam?
It should be Gaia,and i think Mu has regained hie memory,judging by that sentence she told Murrue,Mu and Athrun fans rejoice,they are back on form!
I was highly dissappointed in Cagalli in this episode. She only lasted because of that reflective armor. She didn't even make an attempt to go seed on Shinn though she had the motivation and time to do so. I was thinking "Hey. Cagalli's got a new gundam. Maybe she will at lest be able to do some damage to Shinn." but no. I am left dissappointed by her yet again in this series. Also, every time Lacus starts to rant on people always find themselves resolved for some strange reason. Athrun has been mentally confused for the entire series and along comes Lacus and suddenly he is resolved. That is gay to me.
Now Kira has definitly gotten better yet again. Shinn's skills have gotten great but Kira is always 2 steps ahead of him. If Kira could use those dragoons then Shinn would be screwed right now. I miss the days when Kira had the strike and used every part of the gundam (Like the fists and feet.).
The next episode looks promising. Can't wait.
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Originally posted by: FelixZeroAlastor
I was highly dissappointed in Cagalli in this episode. She only lasted because of that reflective armor. She didn't even make an attempt to go seed on Shinn though she had the motivation and time to do so. I was thinking "Hey. Cagalli's got a new gundam. Maybe she will at lest be able to do some damage to Shinn." but no. I am left dissappointed by her yet again in this series. Also, every time Lacus starts to rant on people always find themselves resolved for some strange reason. Athrun has been mentally confused for the entire series and along comes Lacus and suddenly he is resolved. That is gay to me.
Now Kira has definitly gotten better yet again. Shinn's skills have gotten great but Kira is always 2 steps ahead of him. If Kira could use those dragoons then Shinn would be screwed right now. I miss the days when Kira had the strike and used every part of the gundam (Like the fists and feet.).
The next episode looks promising. Can't wait.
Do not start another GAY DEBATE,Felix.
And Lacus has some charisma that Kira and Athrun and all her supporters feel,and Cagalli is a Natural how can u compare her to Shinn?Kira will always own Shinn becoz his skills are better and his MS is nuclear,Shinn's stupid hybrid nuclear-deutrion Destiny can run out of power
It will be interesting to see how well Athrun fights in IJ... IJ is an awesome unit, and Athrun as we all know, is a pretty kick ass pilot on his own. However he is injured and can barely walk without assistance, so that will hinder his performance. My guess is that he's probably going to do good, just because it is Gundam Seed and they have to make IJ look good to milk more money out of the fans and merchandise.
GAY DEBATE? the man's got some valid points. it's one thing if it doesn't coincide with your opinions but to attack it because you feel against it is another.Quote:
Originally posted by: Chris_Xion
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Originally posted by: FelixZeroAlastor
I was highly dissappointed in Cagalli in this episode. She only lasted because of that reflective armor. She didn't even make an attempt to go seed on Shinn though she had the motivation and time to do so. I was thinking "Hey. Cagalli's got a new gundam. Maybe she will at lest be able to do some damage to Shinn." but no. I am left dissappointed by her yet again in this series. Also, every time Lacus starts to rant on people always find themselves resolved for some strange reason. Athrun has been mentally confused for the entire series and along comes Lacus and suddenly he is resolved. That is gay to me.
Now Kira has definitly gotten better yet again. Shinn's skills have gotten great but Kira is always 2 steps ahead of him. If Kira could use those dragoons then Shinn would be screwed right now. I miss the days when Kira had the strike and used every part of the gundam (Like the fists and feet.).
The next episode looks promising. Can't wait.
Do not start another GAY DEBATE,Felix.
And Lacus has some charisma that Kira and Athrun and all her supporters feel,and Cagalli is a Natural how can u compare her to Shinn?Kira will always own Shinn becoz his skills are better and his MS is nuclear,Shinn's stupid hybrid nuclear-deutrion Destiny can run out of power
Dude, how can you say Itachi is the best. Itachi himself said he couldn't handle Jiraya. When Itachi is with his sword swinging boy (forget his name and too lazy to look it up), Itachi says that they are not enough to handle Jiraya.Quote:
Originally posted by: Mut@chi
Kira vs Shinn is pretty much on the same level of Itachi vs Jiraiya. We'll never know who is the better one (except Itachi is the best).
so it would be Kira=Jiraya and Itachi=Shinn
Also, I believe SF might still be able to use his dragoons on Earth. I just think he did not see a need to use them as of now, but when battle both Gundams I think the dragoons might come out...just some food for thought
I'm juz worried thats all,if it isnt another debate,then fine,my apologies for any offense,Felix
The DOM Troopers seemed like they were having a lot of fun...
Wow, this episode kicked ass. Now I'm reminded why I love Gundam.
Terra I'm surprised your bitching and moaning still. They are actually keeping mwu as Neo still. He still hasn't fully regained his memories but now not being with the ship he is slowly regaining them. Just as Stellar showed was possible. Curium I don't know what more besides him saying he is mwu you need.. Appearance, voice, genetics, phrases, knowledge, what more do you need to not say coincidence? If he said he was Mwu then you could pass it off as coincidence saying he is saying that just to sleep with the captain. You're a pain in the ass. lol. As for predictable. I was expecting Cagalli possibly to go SEED but having her not makes sense since she didn't know that Destiny is Shinn and she wasn't upset enough to really go SEED. Maybe she will again.
To settle the questions the flashback showed the three gundams. If you noticed their V fins and chests from left to right. Gaia, S. Freedom, I. Justice. I'm curious if anyone else also noticed Dearka got a new suit from the ending. He now pilots a black Zaku Blaze Phantom.. Not bad eh? You can be happy about that Terra.
I wish I could explain about the Destiny power situation but that would probably lead to spoilers. It is definately a hybrid system system thou. Where it has a much higher capacity than a battery operated unit.
The Dom Trooper "Jet Stream Attack" kicks ass. They are way more mobile than they look and the image posted in the Trooper thread does them no justice. Just like the Simmons drawing doesn't do the UC ones justice. Freedom has been pwning. And once the AA left to join the fight its easy to believe they'd of let the Eternal know of their situation and Cagalli launching. From there you know that Kira will want to help. Being a newtype did he know Cagalli was in danger. Who knows.
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Terra I'm surprised your bitching and moaning still.
But seriously, you seem to misunderstand why I "bitch and moan". I'm not questioning Neo being Mwu, I just don't want this to end as "Mwu is mysteriously alive and brainwashed". I want to see HOW he was picked up. By WHO and WHY. Is that so strange to you?
And yes I noticed Dearka's new mobile suit.
Thanks for the info,Guardian,i was going to say that after watching phase 42 8 times now,i finally noticed that new suit Dearka got is a Gunner Zaku Phantom,but are those twin packs behind it Blaze missile packs?ZAFT is gonna be puking,
Current MS count:
ZAFT[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]estiny,Legend,Impulse(3)
ORB/Clyne Faction/Three Ships Alliance:S.Freedom,IJustice,Gaia,Akatsuki,Strike(R ouge)(5)
Unsure of:Skygrasper(If Neo/Mu's ride gets the upgrades,G-Flight treatment or something new?),Yzak's custom Gouf,Dearka's Blaze/Gunner ZAKU Phantom(not sure)
As you can see,the good guys have the upper hands now,even eith the DOMs but they're getting better if those 3 "unsure of" units join them.ZAFT is going down!
Neo saying something Mwu said does not make him Mwu, there are ways to explain him using the same line that are no more farfetched then saying he survived in space without a helmet or a MS. A clone with partial memories from Mwu, or some stupid newtype mental connection between Neo and Mwu(hopefully before he died but i wouldn't past the writers to make it an ongoing link), could have resulted in the exact situation that the show is in now, short of something saying it is Mwu you can't really jump to that conclusion. No matter what the explanation is gonna be retarded, Mwu can survive in space or the clone is extremely Mwu like.Quote:
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Appearance, voice, genetics, phrases, knowledge, what more do you need to not say coincidence?
This is just another of those tug-of-war episodes, wherein the right side gets the pull this time, but later on loses to the left side. Perhaps Shinn would totally lose it, his dignity that is. I suppose Cagari wasn't as confident as I thought she was, as she rush through the enemy lines. Justice. I'll be expecting good things from Asuran, he better catch up to Shinn.
Shinn only ran out of power because of the point blank Rail Gun hits. Physical weapons can't damage PS suits, but it can drain their power. Rail Guns are EXTREMELY powerful, so naturally it would take a lot more power to protect against them.Quote:
Originally posted by: Freki
Kira v Shinn had some cool stuff happening but ending it on account of Shinn running out of power was lame, especially with how fast it happened, I mean Freedom lasted how many years without ever running out of power but Shinn drains his batteries in an afternoon of fighting.
I can tell you EXACTLY what I need to see for me to be convinced. The ENTIRE scene where he is recovered after Strike's explosion.Quote:
Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Curium I don't know what more besides him saying he is mwu you need.. Appearance, voice, genetics, phrases, knowledge, what more do you need to not say coincidence? If he said he was Mwu then you could pass it off as coincidence saying he is saying that just to sleep with the captain.
I never said I wasn't.Quote:
You're a pain in the ass. lol.
Well from the look on Ramius's face we just may end up with that. The evidence keeps stacking up but its almost certain now it is Mwu. But atleast we're accepting things things that are possibilities. Wait till we see the army of Kira clones that they have fighting for them piloting some new type of MS on EA. I mean if they are gonna clone anybody. Thats who they would clone.
Freki my mind is alil tired what are some ways that he could make exact same phrases that Mwu would of made. Or knowing security codes for a ship he never has been on. The helmet was edited out of the movie so he may of had his helmet. And even if he didn't have a helmet he is capable of being in space for a few seconds before going unconcious. Then there are a few minutes which he has in which someone could revive him. Its not as farfetched as it sounds. And thats if he hadnt had a helmet. I can concede there is still a small percent chance that it is a clone if they really did improve the cloning technology.
lol Terra prolly won't ever happen. I just figured you had gotten the point out why wasting ur time repeating something that we know you won't accept till hardcore stuff is out. And my comment about you bitching and moaning was about the predictability of the show. I'd love to see a posting in the spoiler thread on what you predict will happen.
Did I say I haven't accepted it? Lo and behold, I did not!Quote:
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lol Terra prolly won't ever happen. I just figured you had gotten the point out why wasting ur time repeating something that we know you won't accept till hardcore stuff is out.
Unlike you however, I feel it would be nice if they actually told us why things happen instead of just downright accepting that they do.
Also, I reserve the right to write whatever I want exactly how many times I feel like it.
The fact that you seem to get annoyed by it is actually sort of a bonus to me. Teehee.
As for predicting the show, I was talking specfically about what Kira has been doing the last few episodes. If you couldn't see Kira coming to save Cagalli's ass, then you are unfortunately a moron. Anyone could predict that.
Well the whole "Ultimate Coordinator" thing was difficult to begin with. There were a lot of failures, and IIRC the people who acctually succeeded in creating Kira were killed by Blue Cosmos.Quote:
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Well from the look on Ramius's face we just may end up with that. The evidence keeps stacking up but its almost certain now it is Mwu. But atleast we're accepting things things that are possibilities. Wait till we see the army of Kira clones that they have fighting for them piloting some new type of MS on EA. I mean if they are gonna clone anybody. Thats who they would clone.
Also if they are going to show how Mwu "was" saved I would assume it would be in Destiny Astray or something like that, just like Lowe saving Kira from Strike's remains appeared only in Astray.
I've stated this before, but I still believe that if there was any chance Mwu was still alive it would have been the Archangel that recovered him. They were they only ones that were right there when Strike exploded (well the Dominion was, but that didn't last long).
Mwu was a famous EAF Ace pilot, so that quote may be available on the CE version of the Internet. He may have said it to try and make Ramius feel better (it was quite obvious how she was feeling). It wouldn't be the first time a guy messed up trying to guess what would make a women feel better.Quote:
Freki my mind is alil tired what are some ways that he could make exact same phrases that Mwu would of made. Or knowing security codes for a ship he never has been on. The helmet was edited out of the movie so he may of had his helmet. And even if he didn't have a helmet he is capable of being in space for a few seconds before going unconcious. Then there are a few minutes which he has in which someone could revive him. Its not as farfetched as it sounds. And thats if he hadnt had a helmet. I can concede there is still a small percent chance that it is a clone if they really did improve the cloning technology.
I just hope that whenever the truth about the retrieval of Mwu's body comes out (if it ever does) it will be reasonable.
I can't for the life of me find a reason to why somebody would pick up a half-dead body in outer space, close to the end of a war that is about to decide the future for everyone no less.
kira dissappointed me once again... shoulda just used his chest cannon along with his rail guns to finish shin off..
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kira dissappointed me once again... shoulda just used his chest cannon along with his rail guns to finish shin off..
Um you wanted him to use his chest cannon point blank? Thats like suicide..
naw wut would have been cool is if when he backed up off him he fliped him the finger or some shit as if to say " yup and i killed yo woman too suck it "
Personally, I felt Kira did the right thing. He showed Shin that he could've ended him right then and there but chose not to. Kira doesnt fight for revenge, but for what he believes in, and part of that belief is the sanctity of life. Besides, I think if anyone needs to hand Shin a true beat down, to get it through his gundanium thick skull that he's being used, it should be Athrun.
Athrun: "I taught you, I defended you, and I even trusted you and you tried to kill me. And to make it worse, you did it while I had an innocent on board. Your a tool and your either going to wake up right now and smell what Dullindal's shoveling, or I'll end you."
Or something like that.
As much as I'm looking forward to the fight between the four of them next episode. I personally, am more interested in the fallout of the world learning that there are two Lacus. I mean who will they believe, how will they decide which is the real one. And how will Meer handle the original stepping forward to reclaim her rightful place.
Meer: "No, the love and adoration of the people are mine! you can't have them!!"
Lacus: "Witch please, you couldn't even hold on to Athrun."
Well, maybe something like that. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Well they just have to compare what they look like to her pictures from the last war and before. There are some noticable differances. They even had some of the Minerva mechanics mention them. Despite that confusion will rule.Quote:
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As much as I'm looking forward to the fight between the four of them next episode. I personally, am more interested in the fallout of the world learning that there are two Lacus. I mean who will they believe, how will they decide which is the real one. And how will Meer handle the original stepping forward to reclaim her rightful place.
i know ill catch some kind of hate for this but i hate both of them pink haired bitches they only way for redemtion would be to have them fight it out to the death
in some mud
neked
Strike freedom owned this episode [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]. I wana see IJ beat the shit out of legend [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I could be nuts but the part before the opening seemed to have things like Neo being given a skygrasper added in randomly among scenes that we already saw. If all of the scenes were shown previously ignore this it just seemed odd to me.
That being said Kira saving Calgari was a absolute given. While Lacus piloting Infinate justice to Earth was kind of random as I just don't see her all 3 doms and Kira randomly leaving Eternal which is now likely to be hunted in space with nothing but Gaia and possibly Strike rogue(if they have the extra parts and a acceptable pilot) to defend it when before Kira they said it could barely hold off a single nazca class ship.
The Doms to me had a great intro they neither seemed to powerful or to week as they are obviously elite soldiers. It was nice to see them making such a differnce in the battle lines but not have to watch Talia complaining about them or any other random ship captain for that matter.
As for Destiny running out of power and getting a refit mid battle. This basically gives us a lot of questions that we have never had to deal with before in a battle. For instance once you go seed is there a sort of reset before you can go seed again as Shin was obviously not in seed mode while talking to Rey and Lunimaria.. (please note kira remained in seed mode and continued to work on the Zaft mobile suits in the area. As far as Destiny running out of power that is just odd all around we have never seen a powerguage in a Nuclear mobile suit before. Its quite possible this was just the result of taking a direct hit from the railguns at very close range and that sucked some of the reserves needing the suit to have a chance to replenish them in order to continue to fight at full power.
All of that said it was a exceptable episode more Neo is Mwu stuff which is just making it harder and harder to deney without any solid proof. I expect the next episode to be a solid battle with Impulse being frozen if it launches by Merin talking to Lunimaria and letting her know what really happed.
I didn't say there would be reasonable reasons, just that reasons no more unreasonable then Neo being Mwu. I never saw the movie so I didn't know they edited out the helmet, but the fact that it is still floating in space in the series remains. I don't think you can say he still had a helmet just because they didn't show the helmet in the movie. And like I said before if the writers wanted they could add in some crap about cellular memory or some other stupid thing to make a clone of Mwu very similar to the real thing, or Neo could have been cloned long before Mwu died and they could have shared some mental connection being newtypes. None of these theories are any good but I don't see them being any worse then Mwu was floating through space and some unknown ship decided that they would go searching around a warzone for dead bodies that weren't quite dead yet while remaining unnoticed by any other person on the battlefield. I am not dismissing the chance that Neo=Mwu either but I need something more then using the same line and Neo, an EAF soldier, knowing the code for the bridge on an EAF ship.Quote:
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Freki my mind is alil tired what are some ways that he could make exact same phrases that Mwu would of made.
A farfetched possibility... perhaps Mwu's body was picked up during the heat/confusion of battle by the EAF; considering his history/value, as well as the developments taking place throughout that time, suppose the EAF managed to capture... most of him, a little after he was 'blown away'. Perhaps he was put through intense recovery and something similar to what the Extended are put through--hence his memory loss, or maybe memory 'hiding'? We know that the Extended are conditioned such that their memory is heavily compromised--I don't think they're, as someone in EAF (one of the earlier episodes) put it, 'brainwashed' (see: Stellar). Assume Mwu underwent similar treatment... if such were the case--Mwu being under a project/division relevent to the Extended operation--it would explain how Neo came to command 3 Extended and how he tends to say things reminiscent of Mwu's past.
Apart from that (going on the Mwu=Neo scenario), memory loss could occur due to lack of oxygen. Else, I've no clue.
Can't wait for the next episode, hehe.
Not too bad an ep. Plenty of things blowing up. People can talk about plot until we're all blue in the face, but we all know everyone watches GSD for the pretty explosions :P
I like Kira and Shinn's fight, the move where Kira disarmed Shinn by cathcing the saber in his suit's hands was nice. I don't think there was any real danger of Shinn running out of energy. Rey just wanted to call him back to get him to cool down some, and maybe give him another saber, since it looks like that is the only thing that can really damage Freedom.
It was too bad Cagalli couldn't do more, but I guess she's a politician, not a pilot.
The new trio beats the others so far in my book. For bonus points can anyone tell me the name of the dom pilot with the glasses?
Yeah, Cagalli's strong point is her political prowess not for her abilities as a MS pilot.
DOM Pilots are Hilda Harken, Mars Simeon, and Herbert Von Reinhardt.
Actually, the earlier episodes said that his memory was altered by the EAF.Quote:
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Apart from that (going on the Mwu=Neo scenario), memory loss could occur due to lack of oxygen. Else, I've no clue.
Can't wait for the next episode, hehe.
Trust me, they never said ANY such thing. I have been the most ardent opponent of believeing the whole Neo=Mwu arguement. If that had acctually been said someone would have pointed it out by now. Also I specifically watch for the stuff also, and when I'm wrong I admit it. I still say that all the "evidence" is nothing but hearsay and conjecture. There are a TON of clues that say that Neo is Mwu, but when a criminal does a good job of framing somebody there are a TON of clues that point to the innocent man.Quote:
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Actually, the earlier episodes said that his memory was altered by the EAF.
That is a Blaze ZAKU Phantom. There are no Gunner ZAKU Phantoms. Don't ask me why, I have absolutely no clue. Of course I'm just basing that off of MAHQ which has seperate listings for Blaze ZAKU Warrior/Phantom, Slash ZAKU Warrior/Phantom, and Gunner ZAKU Warrior (the Warrior/Phantom are 2 seperate listings but I didn't want to type it out, which probably would have been shorter then this note though).Quote:
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Thanks for the info,Guardian,i was going to say that after watching phase 42 8 times now,i finally noticed that new suit Dearka got is a Gunner Zaku Phantom,but are those twin packs behind it Blaze missile packs?
Its true of what they say. The last one is always the best one. In this case. The last episodes are always the best one.
I have been waiting since for ages for a evenly matched, seed mode between the two fighters, and full concentration fight against Kira and Shinn. And what makes it even better is that next eps. It will be a two on two fight. Loved the part where Kira holds Destiny's bigass saber with his hands and shoots his two cannons to disarm him. Obviously, he had a straight shot to annihilate Destiny but of course cause of his non killing code he just disarmed him. Of course Shinn didn't go unnoticed saying "If that was the beam...do you want to say that....it would have been over already!!!!" and BAM Shinn seed mode!!! freagin awesome!!. And the SF song that plays everytime he comes out now is also a big plus.
Rey looked really pissed that both the AA and the pilot of Freedom, with a new stronger unit to boot were still alive.
Cagallis back to her normal self finally!!
Athrun is out with IJ
Neo comes back saying Mwu saying. I wonder??
And its all gonna get even better.
You forgot the Kira destroyed both of his beam boomerangs which Shinn threw at Cagalli...Quote:
Originally posted by: Mae
Not too bad an ep. Plenty of things blowing up. People can talk about plot until we're all blue in the face, but we all know everyone watches GSD for the pretty explosions [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
I like Kira and Shinn's fight, the move where Kira disarmed Shinn by cathcing the saber in his suit's hands was nice. I don't think there was any real danger of Shinn running out of energy. Rey just wanted to call him back to get him to cool down some, and maybe give him another saber, since it looks like that is the only thing that can really damage Freedom.
It was too bad Cagalli couldn't do more, but I guess she's a politician, not a pilot.
The new trio beats the others so far in my book. For bonus points can anyone tell me the name of the dom pilot with the glasses?
And in sub you can hear Ray telling Shinn that he needs to be resupplied.
Acctually I thought it was interesting that Shinn acctually commented on that. He figured out that Akatsuki was the "Leader unit" but was curious why it was being piloted by an ametuer.Quote:
Originally posted by: Mae
It was too bad Cagalli couldn't do more, but I guess she's a politician, not a pilot.