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wow, no seed destiny [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]?
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Yet to get any kits from Destiny but they're next on my shopping list! Looking forward to sword impulse which is to be released soon.
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im getting freedom MG 1/100
gouf ignited HG 1/144
wing custom MG 1/100
sword impulse 1/100
astray red frame 1/100
gunner zaku warrior (luna) HG 1/144
and prolly force impulse 1/60 if i have enough cash then
will be getting em by end of june
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That's quite a lot at one go. Should be able to last you for quite some time if you are going to air brush them. I've thinking of getting the MG 1/100 Wing Custom as well, but will probably do that after I've started the Destiny series. You should get the RX-78 (One year war version). I've got it and it's great. Feels like a 1/100 perfect grade with lots of articulation.
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first...i don't think seed's units are really that pretty...
second.....plz fix the wings for freedom.....you mixed up with the layers of the wings....
front wing should go on top to cover the railgun
second layer is in the middle
like this:
http://dy2773.hp.infoseek.co.jp/Kira/DSC02852.JPG
and i can tell....you are not a very good modelist and ..........you donno how to put pose....=.=b
btw...for taking pic for models...i suggess you take them one by one....and have few close up pics
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And I can tell... You're not a very good poster and........ You don't know how to not be a dickhead.
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Nice Model Collection you have there PSYKE. ^_^
Only Seed Model I currently have is MG Freedom and MG Aile Strike. Also anyone know if they gonna release a MG version of Force Impulse? =D
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Unfotunately they will probably waste an MG on Force Impulse.
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Originally posted by: SKY_SO_BLUE
Nice Model Collection you have there PSYKE. ^_^
Only Seed Model I currently have is MG Freedom and MG Aile Strike. Also anyone know if they gonna release a MG version of Force Impulse? =D
actually...it's not really a good thing to buy those HG Seed models unless you are trying to do scenes...MGs are better for displays and easier for starters...if you ask me....PG 1/60 are the easiest....the hardest experence i had was to build a 1/144 no grade strike full weapon system
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)
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Originally posted by: Mut@t@
And I can tell... You're not a very good poster and........ You don't know how to not be a dickhead.
well...i am just telling the truth...he didn't do enough line work and knife work to make the model to look good...
i am guessing he only used the gundam lining marker to do the lining....and even so...he didn't do all the detailed lines...
only thing i will say is better is that he did remember to do a little fix to the skirts
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A MG Force Impulse would sell alot better than the crap they put in 1/60th scale. If it had been a true PG then it would have sold better. I tend to stay away from the non grades since they tend to lack detail.
Well looking at the Freedom you posted. The modeller of it isn't much better. Use a better source if you are gonna give tips.. Then again it could just be the camera that makes it look that way.. If you wanna see some classy models check out Peck World.
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Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
A MG Force Impulse would sell alot better than the crap they put in 1/60th scale. If it had been a true PG then it would have sold better. I tend to stay away from the non grades since they tend to lack detail.
no...the problem is...Bandai usually use the 1/60 and HG 1/144 to judge should they release the MGs
cuz it takes a lot of money to hire katoki
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I gotta see your source on this since many MG never even see 1/60. Most serious modellers avoid HG unless the model isn't out in MG. Then again G-System are some of the craziest.
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Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
I gotta see your source on this since many MG never even see 1/60. Most serious modellers avoid HG unless the model isn't out in MG. Then again G-System are some of the craziest.
yes..a lot of the MG are not released by 1/60..but that's the case in SEED and the HGs are where the put most of the attention...but 1/60s are also part of the "servey"
actually....about the part with serious modelist, you are wrong.....they usually use 1/144 no grades/HGs, because 1/144 no grades or HGs are harder to customize and better for scene re-makes...MGs are what they usually avoid
to be very honest.....MGs are made for lower class modelists....cuz even a 7~8 year old kid can make a MG look good...but it takes greater skill to make a 1/144 HG or no grades to look good
P.S. if you classify modelist from 1>10(1 is the best)
i am prolly only at 5~6....
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Well then we classify our modellers differently. I consider serious modellers the ones that go after the models where more skill is needed. Generally the model kits that have a higher number of parts and more complexity to them with all the added details. You just don't really find that in the HG or smaller suits. PG being the models of the most serious and diehard modellers. I only opened my PG after I had done a ton of HG then MG. If I want something cheap to put together I'll go with the HG or lesser. There are a few non grade tho with resin parts and customized parts for the MG that add some cool stuff. Even some of the HG conversions bring an extra level of complexity and fix the crappy detail of the kits. There is a reason why they put that skill level on the english boxes. But as I said what you and I consider modelling and the level of a modeller are different things.
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Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Well then we classify our modellers differently. I consider serious modellers the ones that go after the models where more skill is needed. Generally the model kits that have a higher number of parts and more complexity to them with all the added details. You just don't really find that in the HG or smaller suits. PG being the models of the most serious and diehard modellers. I only opened my PG after I had done a ton of HG then MG. If I want something cheap to put together I'll go with the HG or lesser. There are a few non grade tho with resin parts and customized parts for the MG that add some cool stuff. Even some of the HG conversions bring an extra level of complexity and fix the crappy detail of the kits. There is a reason why they put that skill level on the english boxes. But as I said what you and I consider modelling and the level of a modeller are different things.
um....did anyone tell you before that the "skill rated" thingy on english boxes are not exactly right? PG is the the highest level....^^|||
yes...more parts are harder...but doesn't mean it takes more skill...just more time....why did i say it takes more skill to make HG/no grades? cuz they are lack in details....you have to make your own parts to make it look good...on the other hand....MG/PG are way too detailed, so you can't really customize them....the real skill is to make a model good looking with your own hand made parts.....
if you did read the dengeki hobby before....you will find a lot of the models/scene re-makes in the first 50pages...
nearly all of them are made out of no grades!!
the modelist rating:
HG>MG>PG>HG>GK>no grades>Creat a GK yourself
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
well...i am just telling the truth...he didn't do enough line work and knife work to make the model to look good...
i am guessing he only used the gundam lining marker to do the lining....and even so...he didn't do all the detailed lines...
only thing i will say is better is that he did remember to do a little fix to the skirts
Okay, then instead of telling him he sucks, tell him what he can do to become a pro like you.
Jesus christ.
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Originally posted by: Mut@t@
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
well...i am just telling the truth...he didn't do enough line work and knife work to make the model to look good...
i am guessing he only used the gundam lining marker to do the lining....and even so...he didn't do all the detailed lines...
only thing i will say is better is that he did remember to do a little fix to the skirts
Okay, then instead of telling him he sucks, tell him what he can do to become a pro like you.
Jesus christ.
i can't see the models in person...how the heck am i going to tell him what exactly he should do....gosh...=.=b
all i can say is spend more time on knife work and sanding work....lining is the final step of the whole model...
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
well...i am just telling the truth...he didn't do enough line work and knife work to make the model to look good...
i am guessing he only used the gundam lining marker to do the lining....and even so...he didn't do all the detailed lines...
only thing i will say is better is that he did remember to do a little fix to the skirts
For your info PTX all my kits are Air Brushed and sanded with hobby sand paper and cut with a hobby knife. The only thing I did not do is to use putty.
And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version.
As for the Freedom's wings I just put them up wrongly for display for this photo taking session. All my models are kept in boxes because I do not have enough place to show them all till I get my own apartment next year. So, I do not need to FIX IT.
And yeah, PTX tell me how to be a pro like you if you think all I do is use Gundam Markers. One look at the colours and you should be able to see that I've used different colours to spray them.
Thank you to the rest for the nice words. Will post up pics of my other MG kits once I have the time.
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Originally posted by: Psyke
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
well...i am just telling the truth...he didn't do enough line work and knife work to make the model to look good...
i am guessing he only used the gundam lining marker to do the lining....and even so...he didn't do all the detailed lines...
only thing i will say is better is that he did remember to do a little fix to the skirts
For your info PTX all my kits are Air Brushed and sanded with hobby sand paper and cut with a hobby knife. The only thing I did not do is to use putty.
And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version.
As for the Freedom's wings I just put them up wrongly for display for this photo taking session. All my models are kept in boxes because I do not have enough place to show them all till I get my own apartment next year. So, I do not need to FIX IT.
And yeah, PTX tell me how to be a pro like you if you think all I do is use Gundam Markers. One look at the colours and you should be able to see that I've used different colours to spray them.
Thank you to the rest for the nice words. Will post up pics of my other MG kits once I have the time.
umm....airbrushing is not the main point..i don't really care you air brushed or dry brushed...and i was just guessing about the marker part...i said that earlier
but it's quite true you didn't do enough lining work....=.=|||
"And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version."
about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs....
sorry if you think i am dissing you....but i do think you need more knife work on the models...
and about the blitz....i suggess you to cut the clows apart and re-joint them with metal joints, it will look way better.
Btw.....i see a MG strike there...but that Freedom is no grade, right?(can't really see...too far).
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^^ that is wing custom
@ptx
about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs
freedom really doesnt look as good in hg as the mg version, really, and i think he meant to say that there arent ne SEED kits in mg other than freedom strike and strike rouge (which there arent)
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
^^ that is wing custom
@ptx
about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs
freedom really doesnt look as good in hg as the mg version, really, and i think he meant to say that there arent ne SEED kits in mg other than freedom strike and strike rouge (which there arent)
that's not wing custom, it's wing Ver. Ka, which only appeared in the novel....
honestly....i think the HG is actually better than the MG freedom.....if you pay more attention to the MG...it's legs are too short and the chest is still a little too big...which that doesn't appear in the HG, customing the HG will actually look better than the MG freedom....
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i said custom because its a CUSTIMIZED version of wing isnt it, its a redesign by katoki, i KNOW that
and man you must be tripping, the mg freedom has a katoki'ish design, which have the longer sleeker appearance, and the wings are oversized ( which looks 10000X better then ne other freedom)
http://www.plajapan.com/images/gallery/freedom3c.jpg
too short?? i dont think so
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
i said custom because its a CUSTIMIZED version of wing isnt it, its a redesign by katoki, i KNOW that
and man you must be tripping, the mg freedom has a katoki'ish design, which have the longer sleeker appearance, and the wings are oversized ( which looks 10000X better then ne other freedom)
http://www.plajapan.com/images/gallery/freedom3c.jpg
too short?? i dont think so
it's not customized....it's just Ver. Ka...
and...i think you are the one tripping...=.=b
i said HG, not no grade...
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what the hell do you think katoki does?? make a entirely NEW gundam out of scratch??? NO, he takes a gundam as a reference, and then does a redesign of some part, includes new parts, excludes some old part, its just like modding a car, or a computer case, you can call its VER. whatever, you still took something that already existed and modded it into something different
and ok:
1/100 freedom:
http://www.plajapan.com/images/gallery/10031951a.jpg
sry looks even shorter, and the bigass wings on mg freedom cant be beaten
1/144 HG freedom:
http://www.plajapan.com/images/gallery/10031599t2.jpg
looks just as short as the 1/100 one
and short wings suck
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
what the hell do you think katoki does?? make a entirely NEW gundam out of scratch??? NO, he takes a gundam as a reference, and then does a redesign of some part, includes new parts, excludes some old part, its just like modding a car, or a computer case, you can call its VER. whatever, you still took something that already existed and modded it into something different
and ok:
1/100 freedom:
http://www.plajapan.com/images/gallery/10031951a.jpg
sry looks even shorter, and the bigass wings on mg freedom cant be beaten
1/144 HG freedom:
http://www.plajapan.com/images/gallery/10031599t2.jpg
looks just as short as the 1/100 one
and short wings suck
better if it has no wings....
i said i hate big wings....
i was talking about the legs are too short...i have both MG and HG freedom...
if you actually let them stand straight, you will find the problem...MG freedom's legs are just a little too short
and also i told you...CUSTOMED HG
it is us modelist's job to make a HG look better than MG
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well thats your opinion then, mine is that i like the KA style, sleek, and if it has guns, wings or thrusters, make em BIG ( i love things with wings)
and also i thought MG have more/better points of articulation, that alone makes a MG better
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
well thats your opinion then, mine is that i like the KA style, sleek, and if it has guns, wings or thrusters, make em BIG ( i love things with wings)
and also i thought MG have more/better points of articulation, that alone makes a MG better
cuz you don't custom them.....
customizing toys is the whole point of modeling!!
MG is only for fast and good displays....
but if want to make a good model, HG is still better
no matter you are talking about skills needed or time that's going to be used
it takes more time to custom a HG than a MG
and result will be customed HG will look better than a MG
making a small and lack-in-detail model to look better than MG, that's called SKILL!!!
honestly....i really dislike the new designs.....too sleek and with unlogical weapons....huge wings and huge thrusters doesn't make sense either
what that kind of "chicken legs" physically the unit won't be able to actually stand up on two feet
wing's weapons doesn't make any sense..you cannot fire a beam that is bigger than your exit but go in a complete parallau line(sorry for bad spelling)
wings...like in other post, i said already...the wings are useless!!
huge thrusters......the bigger the thruster is, the heavier the unit is..the more power it need to escape gravity...so that's not a smart move at all
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)
Where is this? I don't particullarly care for Impulse, but 1/60 scale for $10 is hard to pass up.
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that maybe skill, but i wonder, how the hell can you up 18 points of articulation to 35+??, without destroying the toy that is??, i mean than you are basically building a new thing right?
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Originally posted by: Curium
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)
Where is this? I don't particullarly care for Impulse, but 1/60 scale for $10 is hard to pass up.
a place called Japan?
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
that maybe skill, but i wonder, how the hell can you up 18 points of articulation to 35+??, without destroying the toy that is??, i mean than you are basically building a new thing right?
isn't it pretty obvieus that we just dumb the wings away and make a whole new one out of PVC boards?=.=|||
we always do that....basically rebuild the whole model with PVC boards and putty
result is the model will usually be taller than the original size
cuz we usually make the legs longer, sharpen the chins and reshape or even remake the whole shoulder armor and head....
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1/60 Force Impulse Gundam
$59.99
like ptx said, you will prolly have to be in japan yourself to find an offer like that
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
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Originally posted by: Curium
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
and the chance that they will release MG Force Impulse is really low....since their 1/60 Impulse is so unpopular...(the price is lowered to 1000yen already.....)
Where is this? I don't particullarly care for Impulse, but 1/60 scale for $10 is hard to pass up.
a place called Japan?
No need to be sarcastic. You know perfectly well I meant online.
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
1/60 Force Impulse Gundam
$59.99
like ptx said, you will prolly have to be in japan yourself to find an offer like that
my fd imported few of them for the sake of buying cheap plastic....hahahaha
only 1000yen....it's a good way to buy customing parts and material to make models.....
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Originally posted by: Curium
No need to be sarcastic. You know perfectly well I meant online.
dude...i am talking about yen price...of course i am talking about japan, not online
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
^^ that is wing custom
Yeah, the Katoki remake of Wing is one of the more badass designs out there. It looks like it could just rip every other MS apart with its bare hands.
I'll get back to everyone with a review of the kit if I decide to have a go at it.
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Originally posted by: Souryusen
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
^^ that is wing custom
Yeah, the Katoki remake of Wing is one of the more badass designs out there. It looks like it could just rip every other MS apart with its bare hands.
I'll get back to everyone with a review of the kit if I decide to have a go at it.
i must say, the novel version is the only once that i have slightly more intrested in than TV/OVA
the idea of making heavyarm's machine gun firing real bullets is way better than beam bullets....
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
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Originally posted by: Curium
No need to be sarcastic. You know perfectly well I meant online.
dude...i am talking about yen price...of course i am talking about japan, not online
So you are saying that Japanese stores don't sell stuff online? Just because it is Yen doesn't mean it can't be online. You could have just said it was in Japan only, not available online.
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souryusen, that is exactly what i though when i saw it first [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img], it really looks like some sort of im-a-destroy-you-with-style!, katoki did a great job on that 1
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Originally posted by: Curium
Quote:
Originally posted by: PTX-003C
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Originally posted by: Curium
No need to be sarcastic. You know perfectly well I meant online.
dude...i am talking about yen price...of course i am talking about japan, not online
So you are saying that Japanese stores don't sell stuff online? Just because it is Yen doesn't mean it can't be online. You could have just said it was in Japan only, not available online.
not many japanese like to sell their stuff to other countries(apart from big company)
small stores/yahoo bid....90% of the time they don't offer shipping to other countries
that's common sense
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Originally posted by: darkshadow
souryusen, that is exactly what i though when i saw it first [img][/img], it really looks like some sort of im-a-destroy-you-with-style!, katoki did a great job on that 1
in addition sandrock katoki version also looks really cool ( i want a kit of it but cand find it)
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/katoki/xxxg-01sr.jpg
and no this is the tv version custom, not the endless waltz version
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/end...xxxg-01sr2.jpg
^^endless waltz
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I have the endless waltz one. I have three model kits but I just build them and left them like that. I want them to look more realistic, so I could use some pro help on how to do it.
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it's only novel version.....not tv customed
and there IS model for that novel version
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PTX you crack me up sometimes with the way you analyze stuff. I thought I was a bit of a unique thinker but you take the title on that one. There are lots of japanese stores online that sell in yen and will even convert to the US dollar. Or you can exchange your money online for the equivalent and pay in yen. And when you are talking about modellers there aren't many serious ones like you. Alot of the people in here have been going against what you've been saying. So you can take majority for what it is that your views on what needs the most skill and what modellers prefer to build as your own view.
Personally I like the room, scale and size of the MG and PG kits. They allow you for much more customization. You can get detailed beyond belief going even beyond the armor down the the servos and wires. You just can't afford the room that a MG and especially a PG offers you. Sure it takes alot of skill to make a HG or many no grades upto the quality of a MG or PG. But it takes skill to improve on the MG and HG as well. You can rebuild your HG models all you want, but as said you're gonna have a tough time with such small pieces even just getting the articulation down of the higher quality models.
HG are for modellers who can't afford to play with the bigger and better model kits while still offering quality that many no grades don't have. When you start playing with resins in that scale then you get abit more challenge. You need to actually visit some modeller forums and get your facts straight. After alil while in there you will see which models people find to be the most challenging and which need alot of skill to make look alot better than what they give you in the box.
Just cause I want to treat you guys to a guy with real skill. I'm maybe got half the skill of what this guy has. He put up some tutorials not to long ago which have proved useful. You prolly gonna need a translator thou.
http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/
His BAZ project is especially awesome. I love his Kampfer Zwei as well.
http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/bazproject/bazp.htm
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God, it would take so long to do a full listing of every gundam I have bought and assembled. Most of them are 1/144 scale, though all of my seed and seed destiny 1/144's are all HG's.
Wing:
1/144 of
Wing
Wing Zero
Wing Zero Custom
Sandrock
Heavyarms
Deathscythe
Deathscythe Hell
Deathscythe Hell Custom
Shenlong
Altron
Epyon
Meracius(spl)
Valk...(spl, you know what I mean)
1/100 of
Death Scythe
Wing
Tallgeese III*(forgot this one)
PG
Wing Zero Custom (It's my baby :X)
UC:
(all 1/144)
Gundam
Gundam Alex
Guncannon
Gelgoog
Rick-dom
Hy-gogg
Kampfer
Gundam Seed
1/144 HG of:
Aiel Strike Gundam
Ginn
Aegis
Duel
Blitz
Buster
Freedom
Justice
Forbidden
Raider
Strike Rouge Gundam +IWSP
1/100 of
Aegis
Gundam Seed Destiny:
1/144 HG of
Force Impulse
Sword Impulse
Gaia (unassembled, been busy >_>[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
SD versions of
Strike Gundam (with all the packs! just in SD form [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img])
Wing Zero Custom
(forgot name of the stolen gundam from Stardust Memory, but that one.)
*phew* that took a few minutes....
I don't -think- I'm missing anything of what I should have on my list....
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Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
PTX you crack me up sometimes with the way you analyze stuff. I thought I was a bit of a unique thinker but you take the title on that one. There are lots of japanese stores online that sell in yen and will even convert to the US dollar. Or you can exchange your money online for the equivalent and pay in yen. And when you are talking about modellers there aren't many serious ones like you. Alot of the people in here have been going against what you've been saying. So you can take majority for what it is that your views on what needs the most skill and what modellers prefer to build as your own view.
Personally I like the room, scale and size of the MG and PG kits. They allow you for much more customization. You can get detailed beyond belief going even beyond the armor down the the servos and wires. You just can't afford the room that a MG and especially a PG offers you. Sure it takes alot of skill to make a HG or many no grades upto the quality of a MG or PG. But it takes skill to improve on the MG and HG as well. You can rebuild your HG models all you want, but as said you're gonna have a tough time with such small pieces even just getting the articulation down of the higher quality models.
HG are for modellers who can't afford to play with the bigger and better model kits while still offering quality that many no grades don't have. When you start playing with resins in that scale then you get abit more challenge. You need to actually visit some modeller forums and get your facts straight. After alil while in there you will see which models people find to be the most challenging and which need alot of skill to make look alot better than what they give you in the box.
Just cause I want to treat you guys to a guy with real skill. I'm maybe got half the skill of what this guy has. He put up some tutorials not to long ago which have proved useful. You prolly gonna need a translator thou.
http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/
His BAZ project is especially awesome. I love his Kampfer Zwei as well.
http://members12.tsukaeru.net/peck/bazproject/bazp.htm
i must say.....customizing MG and PG are really simple compare to HGs.....cuz they are too big....and too detailed...not many things you can do apart from remake the whole thing...but HGs has way more flexability....not to mention HGs has more models in the first place, but because it's smaller, that's why it takes way more skills to work with it...i don't understand why will you guys think PG is the hardest.....i find PG really simple apart from a little time spending.....but i find way more challenge with customizing a HG..because you have to makee the whole body frame and the extra parts yourself .....which are mostly provided in MG or PG already
biggest example for that are the joints.....PG and MG's joints are near perfect already....what's the point of doing anything more.....but look at HG...their joints are not really moveable...that's why we customize them..ever saw a no grade 1/144 G-Gundam crossing arms like the MG 1/100? that's what you called skill
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Well actually there are some 1/144 nonames that are at or beyond MG quality so yea I've that kind of detail on the lesser scale models. Resin kits for the most part. So basically if I get what you are saying you serious modellers like playing with the smaller tighter HG line since there is lack of detail, crap articulation, and improper scale. You get to show more skill by bringing it upto about a MG quality? Why not challenge yourselves like most other modellers and surpass even what you find in MG like those models in Peck World. Doing the same stuff with MG or even PG allows so much more freedom and real estate to play with. You can really go nuts with the minute details you are able to show. Do you actually take off the armor plating and show the frames on your HG? Maybe I just like knowing my models manipulators can be used without tweezers.
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Well actually there are some 1/144 nonames that are at or beyond MG quality so yea I've that kind of detail on the lesser scale models. Resin kits for the most part. So basically if I get what you are saying you serious modellers like playing with the smaller tighter HG line since there is lack of detail, crap articulation, and improper scale. You get to show more skill by bringing it upto about a MG quality? Why not challenge yourselves like most other modellers and surpass even what you find in MG like those models in Peck World. Doing the same stuff with MG or even PG allows so much more freedom and real estate to play with. You can really go nuts with the minute details you are able to show. Do you actually take off the armor plating and show the frames on your HG? Maybe I just like knowing my models manipulators can be used without tweezers.
that's the problem...MGs and PGs are way too detailed...it's very hard for anyone to do anymore changes...because they are already near perfect...nothing is needed to be changed...that's why we go back to HGs and no grades...which will give more fun and able to show our skills
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I think changing a HG models DOES requires handfull of skills to make it into a MG level, but I ALSO think that making a MG/ PG even better (although it's near perfect) into something beyond what it's already is would be a greater challenge to Modelers.
As for me I stopped buying HG models and stick with MG, because I find them more challenging to built and the extended amount of time it takes to finish the product. =D
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I think changing a HG models DOES requires handfull of skills to make it into a MG level, but I ALSO think that making a MG/ PG even better (although it's near perfect) into something beyond what it's already is would be a greater challenge to Modelers.
As for me I stopped buying HG models and stick with MG, because I find them more challenging to built and the extended amount of time it takes to finish the product. =D
i only agree with MGs has more detail and stuff....but since it's too close to perfect...it's really hard to find anything that's needed to be added....and MGs are way too stright forward....only thing needed is time...which is not much of a challenge...
in the other hand....it's way more challenging to make HG able to move like MGs...
also remember one thing...the basic is always the highest level
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i only agree with MGs has more detail and stuff....but since it's too close to perfect...it's really hard to find anything that's needed to be added....and MGs are way too stright forward....only thing needed is time...which is not much of a challenge...
Than you have to use your thoughts and imaginations in making the MG even better now.. don't you? ^_^
But, whatever your opinions on whichever you think is more "CHALLENGING" is up to you. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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i only agree with MGs has more detail and stuff....but since it's too close to perfect...it's really hard to find anything that's needed to be added....and MGs are way too stright forward....only thing needed is time...which is not much of a challenge...
Than you have to use your thoughts and imaginations in making the MG even better now.. don't you? ^_^
But, whatever your opinions on whichever you think is more "CHALLENGING" is up to you. [img][/img]
even you make someone near perfect perfect...not many ppl will notice it...
so i think not much of a point to do more stuff on the MGs apart from the basic stuff...
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"And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version."
about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs....
sorry if you think i am dissing you....but i do think you need more knife work on the models...
and about the blitz....i suggess you to cut the clows apart and re-joint them with metal joints, it will look way better.
Btw.....i see a MG strike there...but that Freedom is no grade, right?(can't really see...too far).
I meant that Strike Rouge was the only one not out in the 1/100 HG, and if it was released I would not have gotten the MG version. I actually got my Strike Rouge in Japan because it was cheap there.
I'm not a pro modeller, and my fellow modelling friends always say I like to rush, but I'm still pretty happy with my collection. Thanks for your ideas on Blitz, but I'm too lazy to modify stuff like that.
As for your later comments on the HG/144 kits I do agree that they are harder to complete and require more skill from the user, but one of the reasons the MG kits are so popular are because of the additional parts as well as the inner frame for some of the Gundams. This allows more customization as well as posing compared to the HG parts.
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"And I would love to get the MS versions IF Bandai released them. I'm sure you realise the only MG versions Bandai released are Freedom, Strike and Strike Rouge, which I bought because there isn't a HG version."
about that part...i don't really get it....all freedom, strike and strike rouge are out in HGs....
sorry if you think i am dissing you....but i do think you need more knife work on the models...
and about the blitz....i suggess you to cut the clows apart and re-joint them with metal joints, it will look way better.
Btw.....i see a MG strike there...but that Freedom is no grade, right?(can't really see...too far).
I meant that Strike Rouge was the only one not out in the 1/100 HG, and if it was released I would not have gotten the MG version. I actually got my Strike Rouge in Japan because it was cheap there.
I'm not a pro modeller, and my fellow modelling friends always say I like to rush, but I'm still pretty happy with my collection. Thanks for your ideas on Blitz, but I'm too lazy to modify stuff like that.
As for your later comments on the HG/144 kits I do agree that they are harder to complete and require more skill from the user, but one of the reasons the MG kits are so popular are because of the additional parts as well as the inner frame for some of the Gundams. This allows more customization as well as posing compared to the HG parts.
well...bandai DIDN'T release 1/100 HG for SEED...that's for sure....either HG 1/100 , no grade 100 and MG 1/100
i donno where did you popup with the idea of HG 1/100...^^b
but if talk about HG strike....why spend the money .....just buy a strike and paint it red...there you go, strike rouge
i agree on the part that MG's inner frame is attractive, but HG 1/100 can do that too if you cuztomize them.^^
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All the Seed models I have (less Rouge) are all HG kits. Yes I know it does not have any grades on the box but it's widely accepted as HG grades in the shops where I bought them. So, the no grade 100 models you mention are the HG 1/100 grades I said.
I thought of doing what you said for Rouge, but like what I said it was really cheap when I saw it and I was attracted by the base, that's why I bought it. Would have loved to get the MG Freedom but I've already got the HG versions way before the MG was announced. I've got friends who still refuse to buy Justice Gundam because they are hoping for the MG version to be released.
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MG Justice Gundam would be really cool to have =D
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I'm curious if I was to pick up a freedom which would be better?
Gundam Seed 1/60 Big Scale Model:
ZGMF-X10A - Freedom Gundam (Bandai)
or the
Master Grade 1/100 Gundam Seed Model:
ZGMF-X10A - Freedom Gundam (Bandai)
I'm just overall curious if the 1/60th scale models are better then the 1/100 master grade kits. Note both kits cost the same amount which leads me to believe the Master grade kit is a much higher quality piece.
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Yes, the MG is much more detailed and is actually re-designed. Check the previous posts for pictures with comparisons. The MG version also comes with a stand for you to pose your Freedom Gundam. For me I would buy the MG version, but if you can paint the 1/60 model it would look great too if you added your own stencils and shadows.
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MG is a much higher quality model than the 1/60. Scales do not determine the quality. HG/MG/PG can be used to reference. While people keep calling 1/100 HG I don't know. The HG models were built to 1/144 scale. I am trying to think of a bandai 1/100 that says HG on the box. MG are all 1/100, and PG are 1/60. The higher the grade the higher the quality in almost all cases. A few models got some decent HG although haven't made it to MG or PG.
If you want to customize your model and plan to make parts and are serious about modding it. I'd almost say go with the 1/60 since you will be rebuilding most of it anyways. But normal kits go like I stated above. The MG is gonna be better than that 1/60 detail wise just smaller scale wise.
So basically PTX-003C you don't do the MG or PG becuase they are too hard for you to make better. I would say that about sums up my point I was trying to make. Sure it does take skill to improve the HG to make them like the MG quality. It takes even far more skill to improve on the quality of the MG or PG. If you can't agree on that then I don't understand why you bother to even argue since it debunks your whole point.
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I"m lazy so if I bother I'll go with the Mastergrade freedom Kit. I just picked up the eternal for no other reason then its a really neat model with justice, freedom and providence along with both meteor units and all of the random guns and launching bays in a 1/1700 scale model. I'm also tempted on the archangel kit that can be built and painted as either the Archangel or the Dominion (which would of course require obtaining 2 such kits).
also didn't someone say that there wasn't a high grade of the Strike Rogue because.... (or if it was a mastergrade they also have one of those)
High Grade 1/144 Gundam Seed Model MSV-01:
Strike Rouge Custom Kit (Bandai)
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But MG's cost more, don't they. That's the prize you pay for being lazy I guess.
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But MG's cost more, don't they. That's the prize you pay for being lazy I guess.
as I said both the 1/60th and the MG are exactly the same price in this case.
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I think getting the MG would be a better choice also.
Anyone planning on getting the 1/100 Sword Impulse Gundam?
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MG is a much higher quality model than the 1/60. Scales do not determine the quality. HG/MG/PG can be used to reference. While people keep calling 1/100 HG I don't know. The HG models were built to 1/144 scale. I am trying to think of a bandai 1/100 that says HG on the box. MG are all 1/100, and PG are 1/60. The higher the grade the higher the quality in almost all cases. A few models got some decent HG although haven't made it to MG or PG.
If you want to customize your model and plan to make parts and are serious about modding it. I'd almost say go with the 1/60 since you will be rebuilding most of it anyways. But normal kits go like I stated above. The MG is gonna be better than that 1/60 detail wise just smaller scale wise.
So basically PTX-003C you don't do the MG or PG becuase they are too hard for you to make better. I would say that about sums up my point I was trying to make. Sure it does take skill to improve the HG to make them like the MG quality. It takes even far more skill to improve on the quality of the MG or PG. If you can't agree on that then I don't understand why you bother to even argue since it debunks your whole point.
you know...making a MG to a PG is way easier than making a HG to a MG....so not much skills are needed...
for MG to PG, all that is needed is just to add a little extra joints on the feet and fingers....that's simple like hell...
cuz the real main difference for PG and MGs are just the armor lines and some joints that MG can't perform easily due to it's size....
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also didn't someone say that there wasn't a high grade of the Strike Rogue because.... (or if it was a mastergrade they also have one of those)
High Grade 1/144 Gundam Seed Model MSV-01:
Strike Rouge Custom Kit (Bandai)
there's a HG 1/144 for strike rouge, it's a strike rouge+I.W.S.P.
and there is also strike rouge custom kit for PG 1/60 strike (I.W.S.P. unit) by B-club
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as I said both the 1/60th and the MG are exactly the same price in this case.
but in impulse's case..it's different...the 1/60 is cheaper than a HG 1/144 impulse...lol!!!
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i really dont know where you saw that, cause i still cant find impulse at the so called 10$ price
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i really dont know where you saw that, cause i still cant find impulse at the so called 10$ price
We've already been over this (with PTX being rude I might add). He said the price is only available in some stores in Japan if you go there in person.
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Anyone planning on getting the 1/100 Sword Impulse Gundam?
After seeing episode 28 I want to...same with blast impulse
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Hahahah i see i'm not the only one that is interested in this model! ^^
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Sword Impulse is being released this month. You can definately expect Blast Impulse soon, but I feel that either Abyss or Gaia will be released before that.
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Sword Impulse is being released this month. You can definately expect Blast Impulse soon, but I feel that either Abyss or Gaia will be released before that.
i donno.......cuz oil's price is going up and bandai is really rushing other models like strike impulse and infinite justice..kinda doubt they will release it....even they release...it's going to near the end or even after destiny ended
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We've already been over this (with PTX being rude I might add). He said the price is only available in some stores in Japan if you go there in person.
not some stores...is bandai's offical price
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HG kits released this month:
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i must say again....those are NOT HGs....they don't even reach the level of HGs....
their scales are not proper: chests are too big: legs are too short: feet are too huge and fat: heads are too big....i can find no reason why will people think it's a HG....it's just a horrible piece of crap that bandai uses to rob money from idiots .....
of course...you will wanna buy it if you wanna use it as modeling parts or customize to a MG level.....
but i wouldn't do that....it's just a waste of time....working on a HG is better
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Ok I will say again as well..... Yes they are not labelled as HGs but they are at least categorised as HGs in all model shops, be it online model shops or at your local shops.
I don't think they are as bad as you say, and the HG kits you are talking about are only 1/144, which like what was discussed before lacks detail and requires more effort.
I'll still get them and it's not a waste of time and money (for me at least).
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Ok I will say again as well..... Yes they are not labelled as HGs but they are at least categorised as HGs in all model shops, be it online model shops or at your local shops.
I don't think they are as bad as you say, and the HG kits you are talking about are only 1/144, which like what was discussed before lacks detail and requires more effort.
I'll still get them and it's not a waste of time and money (for me at least).
then clearly, the stores are WRONG!!
offically there are no 1/100HG for seed
and if you pay attention to the details i said , HG 1/144 is way better than the no grades 1/100
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then clearly, the stores are WRONG!!
offically there are no 1/100HG for seed
and if you pay attention to the details i said , HG 1/144 is way better than the no grades 1/100
You need a lot more effort for 1/144 kits. Having to use masks all the time is very tiring as well, as most of the 1/144 kits come with lesser parts, which means you have to use masks and spray several layers to achieve different colours on a single piece.
And yes 1/144 has more variety and also some of the Gundams which the No grade kits have (such as Calamity, Raider and Forbidden), but I would still prefer the 1/100 kits as they are bigger, easier to pose and more importantly easier to color and to paint. This is of course my own preference and I am in no way saying the 1/144 are inferior. I wish I can take pictures of the 1/144 kits in a model shop I go to but photography is disallowed. The store owner is the resident champ of the Annual Gundam Modelling Competition here where I live. I've thought of enrolling for lessons but it's kinda expensive......
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i must say again....those are NOT HGs....they don't even reach the level of HGs....
their scales are not proper: chests are too big: legs are too short: feet are too huge and fat: heads are too big....i can find no reason why will people think it's a HG....it's just a horrible piece of crap that bandai uses to rob money from idiots ....
Well I think the 1/100 Sword Impulse looks FINE to me... (And seeing this, if they ever realease a MG version of an Impulse I'm betting it will look thinner+ even better) And also in my opinion as well is that I think the 1/100 Seed/ Destiny models look like a larger version of the 1/144th models. But this is just my opinion..
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All this time I thought Athrun's first zaku was the exact same model as Diakka's... I'm glad to see he at least have one of his own.
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psyke plz find me te sandrock custom ( non endless waltz), its too damn cool to pass up
edit: i found 2 stores here in amsterdam!!!, they at least have the 1/100 chaos, im gonna check there NOW hahaha
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psyke plz find me te sandrock custom ( non endless waltz), its too damn cool to pass up
The KA version is not made into any kits yet. So far only the Wing Zero ver. KA has been made into a MG. Sad, but I can scan some pictures of the KA versions if you want it. (You'll have to wait as my books are not kept at my house) : )
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then clearly, the stores are WRONG!!
offically there are no 1/100HG for seed
and if you pay attention to the details i said , HG 1/144 is way better than the no grades 1/100
You need a lot more effort for 1/144 kits. Having to use masks all the time is very tiring as well, as most of the 1/144 kits come with lesser parts, which means you have to use masks and spray several layers to achieve different colours on a single piece.
And yes 1/144 has more variety and also some of the Gundams which the No grade kits have (such as Calamity, Raider and Forbidden), but I would still prefer the 1/100 kits as they are bigger, easier to pose and more importantly easier to color and to paint. This is of course my own preference and I am in no way saying the 1/144 are inferior. I wish I can take pictures of the 1/144 kits in a model shop I go to but photography is disallowed. The store owner is the resident champ of the Annual Gundam Modelling Competition here where I live. I've thought of enrolling for lessons but it's kinda expensive......
geez...you don't always use masks...you just cut the pieces apart, paint them then use wires to hold them back together.....
and the 1/100 are just too bad for any performence if you ask me....it's really a waste of money
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psyke plz find me te sandrock custom ( non endless waltz), its too damn cool to pass up
The KA version is not made into any kits yet. So far only the Wing Zero ver. KA has been made into a MG. Sad, but I can scan some pictures of the KA versions if you want it. (You'll have to wait as my books are not kept at my house) : )
if i am not mistaken, all 5 ver.Ka are made into models long time ago...=.=b
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You'd rather cut the pieces than use a mask? I'm pretty surprised by what you said here and please you all of us some of your work then. Judging from your posts you must be an avid modeller of the 1/144 series.
As for the Ver KA I'm 100% sure only Wing was made into MG. The rest of the KA versions never even made it to HG or MSIA. Who would want to buy a Deathscythe without the wings it had in Endless Waltz?
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for me the best place to go for pictures of the models and to find out the orignal Japanese prices is www.hlj.com though do note the shipping is usually insane and all items are listed in yen for cost and shipping (they do say approcimate US cost as well on the price)
Also do note ungraded 1/100 models are NOT High grade kits they are simply ungraded ones this can be seen in a 1/100 that has black lines and large pieces vs individual pieces the rating is simply based on the number of parts to the model.
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You'd rather cut the pieces than use a mask? I'm pretty surprised by what you said here and please you all of us some of your work then. Judging from your posts you must be an avid modeller of the 1/144 series.
As for the Ver KA I'm 100% sure only Wing was made into MG. The rest of the KA versions never even made it to HG or MSIA. Who would want to buy a Deathscythe without the wings it had in Endless Waltz?
cuz cutting them into pieces also allows you to change the sizes of the armors, you can also re-arrange them a bit so you can make the legs/arms longer
i am dead sure all 5 were out
but not in whole box model...
it's made by B-club i think...they are all custom parts for HG 1/144
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cuz cutting them into pieces also allows you to change the sizes of the armors, you can also re-arrange them a bit so you can make the legs/arms longer
Some times cutting them into smaller pieces mean a LOT of additional work. For eg. For Strike Gundam's Aile striker unit it comes with black and red on a single piece right? No problems with MG as it comes with 2 pieces but for other kits you need to mask 1 of the color, take out the mask and repeat for the other color. So there is no point in any re-arrangement, and you will find that a lot of work/masking is to be done for 1/144 kits. I used to buy Gundam Wing 1/144 models but got so tired of having to mask/cut pieces I gave the kits away instead. But like what I mentioned there are people who can make 1/144 models look better than MG models.
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i am dead sure all 5 were out
but not in whole box model...
it's made by B-club i think...they are all custom parts for HG 1/144
I don't know much about the variations/custom parts from B-Club, but I do know that Bandai did not release any ver KA models of Gundam Wing other than Wing Zero. I buy the official Bandai Gundam model catalogue every year and have never seen them before.
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WING GUNDAM ZERO MasterGrade 1/100
worked & written by papamodeler
This MG Wing Zero Custom looks great. Gotta get this and replace the HG one I bought years back.
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just to tell you....
this whole wing is remade by PVC boards....not from the model...
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cuz cutting them into pieces also allows you to change the sizes of the armors, you can also re-arrange them a bit so you can make the legs/arms longer
Some times cutting them into smaller pieces mean a LOT of additional work. For eg. For Strike Gundam's Aile striker unit it comes with black and red on a single piece right? No problems with MG as it comes with 2 pieces but for other kits you need to mask 1 of the color, take out the mask and repeat for the other color. So there is no point in any re-arrangement, and you will find that a lot of work/masking is to be done for 1/144 kits. I used to buy Gundam Wing 1/144 models but got so tired of having to mask/cut pieces I gave the kits away instead. But like what I mentioned there are people who can make 1/144 models look better than MG models.
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i am dead sure all 5 were out
but not in whole box model...
it's made by B-club i think...they are all custom parts for HG 1/144
I don't know much about the variations/custom parts from B-Club, but I do know that Bandai did not release any ver KA models of Gundam Wing other than Wing Zero. I buy the official Bandai Gundam model catalogue every year and have never seen them before.
B-club stuff are pretty nice too...(if you have enough skills)
also try out the G-generation stuff...(it's a shop..not the game)
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It's from the MG model. The only enhancements were to the wings which were reshaped using either a heater/hair dryer.
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It's from the MG model. The only enhancements were to the wings which were reshaped using either a heater/hair dryer.
it's not...
cuz you can tell by the thickness......the bandai wings are not that thin...they used a PVC board to remake the wings...
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Has anyone else noticed that both the 1/144 HG and the 1/100 scale versions of the Aegis, as well as the 1/144 HG Duels rifles dont fit very well into the hands?
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
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Originally posted by: Psyke
It's from the MG model. The only enhancements were to the wings which were reshaped using either a heater/hair dryer.
it's not...
cuz you can tell by the thickness......the bandai wings are not that thin...they used a PVC board to remake the wings...
Yes the only enhancements were the wings. More wings were added apart from what's given in the MG box. But the body and rest of the other parts are from the MG kit (other than the custom stand of course).
Jurojin:
Yah for the Aegis that I have.... the rifle doesn't fit well too. Don't really understand why as the hands were not part of the transforming parts which were really filmsy to begin with.
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
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Originally posted by: Psyke
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Originally posted by: PTX-003C
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Originally posted by: Psyke
It's from the MG model. The only enhancements were to the wings which were reshaped using either a heater/hair dryer.
it's not...
cuz you can tell by the thickness......the bandai wings are not that thin...they used a PVC board to remake the wings...
Yes the only enhancements were the wings. More wings were added apart from what's given in the MG box. But the body and rest of the other parts are from the MG kit (other than the custom stand of course).
Jurojin:
Yah for the Aegis that I have.... the rifle doesn't fit well too. Don't really understand why as the hands were not part of the transforming parts which were really filmsy to begin with.
if i am right...he basically took off all the wings and remade them with PVC boards....
the hands are from B-club....i suspect he did some changes to the knee cap too...
and in general...this model is slimmer and taller than the original one....
but no matter what...i hate wing zero custom....stupid wings!!!!
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
Okay after reading the big amount of posts some info on grades and scales since it looks like some people are confused.
HG = Bandai's 1/144 line of suits that are within a certain quality and amount of parts
MG = Bandai's 1/100 line of suits that are of a higher quality than HG "more detail, better proportions, larger size, more articulation" and more parts
PG = Bandai's 1/60 line of suits. Highest grade and best quality. Amazing articulation, multiple layers to strip armor, posability, details are incredible, an insane amount of parts.
Now you can have models that are of different scales 1/48, 1/60, 1/100, 1/144, and even higher for the larger type stuff. Now these model kits that are not of the grades listed above can have various levels of quality. I've seen 1/144 that out of the box compete with a MG just they are smaller. There are 1/60 models that are god ugly compared to a MG. There was a question about purchasing a model just earlier like this. Models that are not bandai's official line don't get the HG, MG, or PG tag and don't belong in that category. If you got a 1/100 in the HG section its probably there just because of its lower quality. Its not really a HG.
For me personally I stay away from the lower quality models. If it can't compete with a decent quality HG I don't buy it. I like posability, and accuracy in my models. If I wanted to show skill in modelling while having a low budget I'd get the HGs like PTX here. If I really want to do something crazy and amazing. I'll open up one of my MG and goto town. I haven't even dared trying to improve on a PG since I really gotta get better before attempting that. Those are some expensive models to have a hobby with. Modelling in my opinion has alot to do with what kind of money you have as well for what models you put together. If everyone could afford to get MG and PG whenever they'd be building them more than the HG. Alas things don't work out that way.
Note: If its Bandai's official store that has that low price. You have to be able to get it online for that price. Since they accept orders over the phone last I knew. And people have even bought models online directly from bandai I think. But I haven't heard about that for along time so things could of changed. Its real easy to check on that price thou.
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
w0000t i just came back and FINISHED my HG 1/100 sandrock custom !! ( endless waltz )
man i like it, they are getting freedom en wing custom next month!!, man im so happy there's a store nearby me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] ( and psyke yeah i would love to c scans of the KA vers.
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
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Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
Okay after reading the big amount of posts some info on grades and scales since it looks like some people are confused.
HG = Bandai's 1/144 line of suits that are within a certain quality and amount of parts
MG = Bandai's 1/100 line of suits that are of a higher quality than HG "more detail, better proportions, larger size, more articulation" and more parts
PG = Bandai's 1/60 line of suits. Highest grade and best quality. Amazing articulation, multiple layers to strip armor, posability, details are incredible, an insane amount of parts.
Now you can have models that are of different scales 1/48, 1/60, 1/100, 1/144, and even higher for the larger type stuff. Now these model kits that are not of the grades listed above can have various levels of quality. I've seen 1/144 that out of the box compete with a MG just they are smaller. There are 1/60 models that are god ugly compared to a MG. There was a question about purchasing a model just earlier like this. Models that are not bandai's official line don't get the HG, MG, or PG tag and don't belong in that category. If you got a 1/100 in the HG section its probably there just because of its lower quality. Its not really a HG.
For me personally I stay away from the lower quality models. If it can't compete with a decent quality HG I don't buy it. I like posability, and accuracy in my models. If I wanted to show skill in modelling while having a low budget I'd get the HGs like PTX here. If I really want to do something crazy and amazing. I'll open up one of my MG and goto town. I haven't even dared trying to improve on a PG since I really gotta get better before attempting that. Those are some expensive models to have a hobby with. Modelling in my opinion has alot to do with what kind of money you have as well for what models you put together. If everyone could afford to get MG and PG whenever they'd be building them more than the HG. Alas things don't work out that way.
Note: If its Bandai's official store that has that low price. You have to be able to get it online for that price. Since they accept orders over the phone last I knew. And people have even bought models online directly from bandai I think. But I haven't heard about that for along time so things could of changed. Its real easy to check on that price thou.
you know what?
like i say all the time.....don't start a hobby unless you are sure you can affort all the tools and nesseseries...
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
Nobody listen to PTX-003C, he's just trying to keep you down. Go have fun with your models.
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
PTX PLEASE... STOP....... TYPING ........ LIKE......... THIS........
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
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Originally posted by: Astronopolis
PTX PLEASE... STOP....... TYPING ........ LIKE......... THIS........
but it's true.....
a normal hobbylist will tell you that right away...
"if you don't have enough money, don't start the hobby"
cuz you will end up being a half decent only...which is worst than not knowing at all....
if you guys can't accept the truth...i really can't help it..
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Gundam Seed Model Kits from Bandai
Holy Shit!!..Look at that!!...And I'm still trying to raise money to get the MG Freedom!!