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Or Razor did reinforce the ball, like every monster in the show do with their powers... Magiks yup
God damnit these eps fly by way too fast!
Looks like a little Razor backstory with Ging coming up, sweeet!
Episode 71 is out!
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I don't feel like I remember anything about the fight between Gon/Bomber or what Phantom got up to from here on.. so this pretty much marks the start of "new" material for me. :)
Maybe I remembered the Razor finale too vividly, so it didn't have too much impact in the end.
Donīt remember the Bomber-fight, too, though I remember the Greed Island-end.
To be honest, the Bomber, or rather Genthru, always felt rather random to me. Just why is he that strong in active battle? And he has no direct relation to Gon, not even any build up. Though, of course, all that is excused by the fact that this Greed Island-arc isnīt really about defeating this villain. Itīs about Gingīs game.
Bomber's the main force that's forcing others to band together and complete the game now that he's close to accomplishing it. I don't know if there is a limit on how many people can complete the game and what happens afterwards, so I'm not really sure what all the rush is about. If someone is hogging the cards, I'd let them have it. They can complete the game and the cards to back into system for the next player who wants to complete the game.
Heh, I also remembered Razor as the climax of this arc, even though I totally remembered them fighting Bomber's team. I guess I assumed the Bomber fight was before they got Razor's card.
I think it's just safe to assume that the game ends once someone wins.
Otherwise, once it's been figured out, seems like it'd be pretty easy for people afterwards to clear it(although, granted, you'd have to be at least as strong as Razor to get his card).
I think the first run had more gore and damage, which made their win all the better in that depiction.
Hisoka's catch was done better here, but the aftermath in the OVA showed his fingers being completely mangled from that catch. Razor was also shown to have the soles of his shoes completely vaporised from the friction against the bungee-ball.
Too bad Killua's healing for 3 weeks. Gon's ahead of him power-wise (he always will be), and his fists are already an offensive application of his power, so I'm dying to see Killua finally be able to use his electricity in his attacks against opponents.
The only problem with that line of thought is that Gin must have thought nobody could clear the game before his son came along. If that's the case, that's pretty arrogant. Gon's talent is rare, but it's not farfetched to think that someone else could also do it. Was Gin without peer in his generation?Quote:
Originally Posted by DE
Or are you saying that when the game is cleared, everyone must start from zero again?
I never played dodgeball, can anyone explain why Razor couldn't just dodge Gon's ball? Was it because of its speed or of a rule in the game?
I'm also not sure why they can't log out while they wait for them to heal.
Talk about your unnecessary double posts...
I'm not 100% on this though, there was a rule where your binder's extra slots got deleted if you got out right? That would mean they'd be out of spell cards once they came back. There might also be other factors involved that i'm not seeing, HxH doesn't tend to have these kind of plot holes.
See, if the idea is that Gon gets to play this game, then you have to count on the game not being cleared during the time Gon takes to grow up. According to your own theory, the game finishes once someone clears it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DE
Gin would have been 100% sure on no one being able to clear it before Gon's arrival.
When Gon fired his first shot, Bisky suggested to Razor that perhaps he should dodge Gon's ball since it's pretty strong. He said she must be kidding. He believes in his own abilities to the point where his pride forbids him from dodging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ark
Gon really is a special case. They had a team consisting of Gon, Killua, Hisoka, and a one-star hunter, and barely managed to stay alive. I dont think its that farfetched to imagine that 10-15 years would go by with no winners.
Also remember, when bisky told Razor to dodge, that serve wasn't nearly as powerful as the one in this episode. It is very well possible Razor couldn't have dodged it had he wanted to.
As far as the build up to Genthru, I feel like this is the only thing thats been done better in the manga this arc.
Episode 72 is out!!
The most boring game of tag ever!
Hurry up with that Hadoken Gon.
Cant remember this outside-the-game confrontation at all.
And stop being so polize, Tzegerra! Just punch this wooden door wide open, you fool. I mean, clearly Battera is being manipulated. But no, letīs not check up on him. sigh
Episode 73 is out!
I can't believe the pacing of this fight compared to the previous series.. no boring moment.
Funny that even though I know what's going to happen, I can't wait to see the next few episodes. (not to mention that after GI 'new' stuff comes along)
I never got this part in the old show either, why didn't Biscuit just kick the Bomber's ass herself?
Thats what I was going to complain about.
Itīs still nice watching it, BUT thereīs absolutely no tension, no moment of fear involved in these fights. Well, except for Gonīs.
The plan of theirīs makes no sense. Had Bisuke fought Genthru, Gon would have had about as much problems with the black-haired guy as Killua had with his opponent. And Genthru would have stood no chance against Bisuke. Safe victory. Instead, they make this confrontation artificially dangerous by having Gon fight the boss.
Though Iīd also like to complain about Genthruīs comrads being complete wusses. Do you want to tell me that there are no other nen-users inside Greed Island that could match their strength? But Gon and Killua can? Come on.
Still enjoying it all, but this battle is kinda forced in ways.
Perhaps she knew Bomber would take on Gon since Gon challenged him earlier. They wanted to separate them out because as a team, Team Gon was weaker - divide and conquer. The idea was for Killua and Bisuit to take on the weaker guys and win (the weaker guys would take on Killua because he was still injured, and Bisky because she was tasty). Gon was supposed to lure Bomber into a trap right? I won't remember if the trap involved Biscuit and Killua's involvement at all.
I really enjoyed the soundtrack that played while Killua toyed with his prey. He's definitely in my triad of favourite HxH characters.
Dat UberBiscuit lol
Just how powerful is she when using her full strenght? o.O
Weak? The black haired guy took a punch to the face from Bisky and survived. The red haired dude took a 50 kg yoyo to the back of the head and remained conscious....
Bisky may also want this to be a learning experience for Gon.
Anyone ever tried carrying 100kgs in their pockets? Cuz that's what Killua must be doing all the time.
Just say'n. ;)
Bisky just didn't want to transform in front of Killua and Gon
What? Nuh uh. I mean, sure they'll backstab people, but probably not each other. They've shown significant care for each other when they had that argument about who should use the risky dice. They get to speak their minds freely too, so the relationship seems more amicable than that. Them being weaker than Genthru is probably their own fault.
All things considered I think that powerlevel chart simply measured the extent to which each character mastered the six special abilities or something along those lines. Because it placed several characters fairly close to uh, lets say ridiculously strong characters.
I think its probably best to compare characters to the troupe, or the Zoldeycks. Comparing anything to the chairman isn't really fair.
They can appear like that precisely because there is a difference in power and wits between the stooges and Genthru. As it is, they can act quite freely and in amiable manner within their group because the setting is fixed and unambiguous. Probably Genthru can even count on the two dudes not having too big ambitions to try and reach his level. Right now Genthru gets two "friends" to spend time with, formulate more complex plots with, and with whom he can laugh at their victims. The two followers probably got much of their training from Genthru and with him they are sure to be able to pursuit loftier goals than alone. So, both sides benefit. But if they were all at the same level, they would constantly need to wonder how long one party needs the others or if the others are planning to backstab to claim it all. Because of the similar level of power, they couldn't help but worry as a fight could end any way. Now, however, the lackeys know they would lose, so they wouldn't normally even dream of trying, and instead concentrate on helping Genthru.
Gon has had strong help when needed to learn and hone his skills. Biscuit probably is part of a plan to have Gon grow in an incredibly powerful monster. Biscuit judged Gon has enough skills to survive Genthru, and the angel breath is probably a failsafe to have Gon survive just in case something goes wrong, like shit happens even when you're strong enough.
Episode 74 is out!!
Kinda cheap that Gon could just heal his hand like that. Took away from the gruesomeness of it.
Also, not killing Genthru is pure bs. Wonder if they at least hand him over to ... well, the nen-police, lol.
finally getting to the end of greed island. should be fun.
Well, ever since we knew about that card's powers, it was obvious there was room for higher bets.
Regarding that card, I guess asking it :"Please heal everyone around us" or the like would not work?
I know they have to get rid of the excess of such cards, but it was really a waste they didn't even explain why that would not work.
I guess it only works on 1 player at a time then.
They aren't any goody two-shoes boy scouts wanting to right all the wrongs in the world. They are neutral and always doing what they want to do personally, getting stronger in the process. That's a good thing about them. Sure, very often they end up fighting the bad guys, but that's natural since bad guys themselves end up fighting anyway, including other bad guys, not only heroes. Gon simply has a few principles he honours, but that's it. Otherwise his only goal is to meet his old man and hang around with his friends. It's quite refreshing shounen wise that he's not there to judge people like Genthru, jamming his own values down everybody else's throats.
Next week is GI's last episode...
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It is refreshing and does make the story unique, but sometimes its also silly. Judging a man who went around slaughtering players in a game that wasn't explicitly made to be played that way isn't very controversial.
Also, Togashi slips up on the neutrality bit from time to time. I can recall Gon asking Chrollo how he can emotionlessly kill people he doesn't know. A story where the protagonist is actually neutral rather than leaning towards good would seem sociopathic.
Indeed. It's only more believable he occasionally slips and is not robotic about it. It's not like Gon himself could ever go around killing people summarily for his own benefit. He has his definite values, so it's natural he would every now and then question other people. But he hasn't made his life's mission to convert everybody to his own way of thinking and believing.
Gon and Killua acknowledged that Greed Island is a game where it is implicit that you will be putting your life on the line. When you come into that game, you expect that you will be confronted with life or death situations. Killua contrasted that to the assassinations he performed in which his victims were not expecting to die or willing to put their lives on the line. Also, take into account Gon's attitude towards people trying to kill him. He does not hold it against his opponent. Gon's only anger issues with Genthru in that fight was that Genthru refused to use his ability initially, and that he went back on his word. Otherwise, his attitude towards Genthru would be more like "Well, if we fight, one of us may die. This is the nature of fighting, no hard feelings. But in the case I win yet you live, I will heal you. that's just who I am."
Also, last time I watched this, I didn't realize how close Gon came to winning that fight without resorting to the plan. Genthru got lucky in that he tripped over the rock and avoided the attack.
Yeah I think that's the best way to put it.
Im not saying they're different, I am agreeing Gon doesn't approve of murder.
Did you watch the beginning of the arc? After hearing about the bomber Gon was blatantly upset that someone had turned his father's game into a killing competition. Its a little different than risking your life fighting the monsters and events.
I feel like maybe that was his feelings only in the beginning when he didn't actually know any better. Round about the time he was fighting Razor in a game of Deathball he probably realized that "Oh, dad hired Death Row inmates to kill anyone that tries to actually win this game, I guess he really DID design this place as a giant murder machine."
Episode 75 is out!!
I wonder if Togashi had any idea when he made that anagram.
Iīm so giddy right now. Finally, weīre getting past the Greed Island in anime-form! OMG, dat preview!!!1
But letīs stay where we are for a moment. Greed Island is such a fantastic arc. What I just thought about, was, that the whole goal of the game is a really peaceful one. "Gather all cards" is all. Think about that. What video games have such peaceful goals? Look at World of Warcraft or other grand titles, itīs all about defeating evil. HXH manages to tell an exciting story DESPITE a seemingly lame outlook.
Anyway, Iīm too stoked for next week :o
Now itīs a real contest: HXH or Shingeki no Kyojin, what will be best! :D
By the way does anyone know where to download the OST?
http://animeost.info/8086/hunter-x-hunter-2011-ost
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=search&cats...=0&term=hunter
animeost gets me a 403 error atm, but it normally works.
So one of the things that occurs to me is that, Greed Island is a game built in the real world by 11 Nen users, does that mean that those Nen users possess the Nen abilities of every card in the game? I mean, they'd have to have that ability to make a card that can do that ability wouldn't they? Especially since they can make the cards work in the real world if they want.
Either that, or it's one person whose Nen ability is that they can do anything, provided they have the ridiculous requirements that make up the entire game.
So them presumably, it's the first thing, where between them, they have all the abilities of all of the cards.
So there's someone in those 11 people who can just heal any person of any injury short of death instantly?
My hypothesis is that the GMs can only use their Spell Cards only on that island and yes, it would make sense that someone would be able to heal all injuries...
They could have a huge stockpile of those cards, made by various members, many not anymore living on the island. Heck, they could have even bought some from outsiders. Nen seems to remain in objects for a very long time, so nothing would prevent that, to keep the game running despite people leaving.
But if the winner of the game can take any 3 cards out of the game and use them, then logically, the GMs with the powers that made those cards in the first place would be able to use those powers freely in the world as well.
This is not, like, a suggestions of what the GMs can do with their cards.
I was just musing over the fact that one of those GMs apparently has a Nen ability that lets them teleport groups of people anywhere on the planet. One of them has a Nen ability heal any injury. One of them has the ability to make you super lucky 19 times out of 20. Etc.
On an aside note, I guess the author revealed all 100 of the restricted cards at some point. Kind of interesting to see the kinds of things Gon COULD have had. There is some seriously awesome and insane shit on that list(Pregnancy Stones? The fuck?!)
He would have taken Gold Dust Girl if he hadn't needed accompany to find his old man.
lol, what a card. Makes me think: Can these game masters even create life with their powers? Reeeally strange.
I wondered anyway just how Greed Island is being managed. Do these game master have to be sitting around all those years, focusing on keeping up the gameīs appearance? Or is it more of a "once created, itīs there" thing?
Hormone Cookies! "After eating this candy, your sex will temporarily change for 24 hours. A set of 10 boxes; 20 cookies per box."
Presumably, though they'd just be Nen constructs.
Probably not. It's not as if Genthru has to concentrate on all his bombs after he set them.
I presume that the creators of the GI game are nen monsters. If Gon at his age is one in a million nen user, my take on this is that part of the team... if not all the team comprises the top nen users of the world.
For them, those cards a very easy to create, this is only a game for a pre-teen boy after all.
I wonder what a trully gifted nen user would become at 30, 35 and 40 after 20 to 30 years of training and honing his/her skills. And I guess Ging is probably around 35. Probably at a peak where both his physical abilities are still top notch and his nen mastery gets better and better.
The only problem is that past certain levels, I guess you could consider they are Gods or very near the idea of what a God might be.
Imagine if Ging used the pregnancy stone to conceive Gon?
People actually peak in terms of abilities. I think around 30 would be the peak for nen users, since physical ability is also important in their trade, unless of course the person has a specific ability to prevent aging.
I doubt that's true. They might peak around 30 for raw power, but not otherwise. I reckon lots of nen users would spend most of their time training their core abilities and strength until well over 20, before they would become interested in more obscure techniques, theories, and possibilities of expanding their area of expertise outside of their initial type. I reckon many wouldn't even later. However, 30 would be too soon to think they could have gained significant broader knowledge and set of skills, as well as sufficient wisdom to judge correctly their opponents. It might be a bit different for people like Gon and Killua who always seem to have a new instructor materialize out of thin air when they need to expand their power and skills.
I just think that those talented enough (like the monsters and soon to be monsters in their universe) grow so fast that they exhaust their possibility to develop at an early age. The Spiders don't seem to be older than 40 (most are much younger it seems), and they no longer seem to train to get stronger. I think if they could not learn it in a few years, they will probably never learn it (or learn it enough to be useful in real battles) because it is outside of their expertise.
Maybe it is indeed different for normal nen users, who will probably spend years just to learn what more talented ones will learn in a few days.
Experience for judging the enemy will still grow with age though, so I get that point.
Actually if we think it statistically, you might be correct indeed. If a person with potential only concentrates on getting stronger at his core abilities, which, I now think is probably the case for most in fact, then 30 might be it. Most of Spiders, or Bomber for example, didn't really show any awesome spectrum of skills. They were really good at the basics and then their specialty, but that is. So, they would peak when their strength is the strongest, which probably is around 30. In the end that's all they will ever need to be kings among normal humans, so there's probably little drive to go through the trouble of expanding their horizons. It's hard to say about Gon and Killua since they are still kids, but I got the feeling they would have neglected even lots of essentials without Biscuit.
Yeah, Nen is like a spiritual energy/martial artsy thing. Those NEVER don't keep going up with age.
That's why all the most powerful mystical martial artists are either ancient masters, or shounen characters with inexplicable talent.
You all realize that the strongest nen-user (as far as we know) is probably the oldest nen-user. Even though he hasn't shown much most come to the conclusion that Netero is probably one of the strongest out there (if not the strongest). Definitely top 5. Another strong geezer is of course Zeno. Zeno held his own against Chrollo. And when Zeno used En to flush out Chrollo it was mentioned in the old anime that a nen master could create a 50 feet nen field while Zeno could use a 300 feet nen field without any problems. If i remember correctly this was never stated in this version. So even though they may be aging body wise, their nen don't seem to diminish.
Yeah, but those guys are clearly exceptions. Would a "normal" dude, like Bomber for example, especially if he hadn't lost to kids, ever be motivated to study and train his whole life, challenging totally new things instead of using what he has to gain whatever he wants (money, influence, job, etc)? That's like assuming in our world most people would have, say a couple of master's degrees and a doctorate or two, instead of just studying their time normally and then getting a job requiring that particular knowledge. I guess most nen users might gradually expand their expertise a bit, but they might also actually grow weaker objectively because their experience would allow them to do stuff with much less effort than beginners need to put in everything.
Netero and Zeno might have been stronger (or just as strong) in their youth.
And Chrollo is young yet matched Zeno, so age doesn't really mean strength.
Also, when I said peaked, that does not necessarily mean that they will get weaker with age (although most probably will due to normal human deterioration). What I wanted to emphasize was that they don't get stronger at that point. It is quite possible for someone to maintain their peak for a long time.
I think it depends what you're doing.
HxH is shounen rules. Which means the more you fight, the stronger you get. The only way characters will ever peak is if they get complacent. As long as they continue to seek new challenges and new obstacles to overcome, they will never stop getting stronger, no matter how old they get.
New episode is out, I dont know if my body is ready for this arc.
Hmmm....I just remembered the part with Kite from the old anime. I guess they cut it out of this one.
Didn't...didn't Gon totally know Kite from that time? That's how I remember it. But they're playing it off like they barely know each other here.
Anyway, the new intro does not give me confidence that we're going to be seeing any Kurapica or Leorio any time soon...
I guess they're just changing their relationship to cover the fact that this anime has never even mentioned the character before.
I kinda wish they'd have just shown that flashback now instead.
Are you sure that's not just because the bugs and the other guy in the intro look a hell of a lot like Cell's various forms? :p
That's how I remembered it too, so I was pretty damn surprised and confused when Gon didn't go "Kite-san!"
It was Kite in the old series that really inspired Gon to become a hunter and find Gin, from memory. The other surprising thing was the ant. I always knew queens were the boss in ant-world, but I never actually associated a female voice with their faces.
Also, what's with Ging and his little pubescence stache?
Yeah I have no idea why they cut out the first episode in this series. Kaito is the reason Gon took the Hunter Exam in the first place.
I mean, I can see why they did it. For pacing. But they should have just put it in NOW as a flashback, instead of completely rewriting the character's relationship.
*shrug* I don't have a problem with it if it doesn't effect the storyline. But rewriting their relationship almost certainly does that.
I also might not care if I thought he wasn't going to be around again, but the intro gives the impression that he's going to be a primary character in this arc.
The intro gives too many impressions, i suggest anime only viewers don't watch it too attentively.
Well I can't UNwatch it now can I.
For anime viewers only its fairly impossible to put anything together, so I wouldn't worry about it at all.
Fine. Correction, anything important. Its no more giving than the last opening, if not less so. Trust me you'll never know whats going to happen in this arc, it's batshit crazy.
There's an army of ant people. And that guy that looks like Cell is probably their king. And Gon, Killua and Kite are going to have to do stuff, probably fight the ants. And then suddenly, beast people show up! Then the Chairman looks concerned after hearing about it.
Arc summary complete!
*dusts off hands*
Since they were called chimera ants, I almost expected Killua to be in deep shit when he was bitten. Because it visited my mind that getting bitten, or contaminated, by the ant would turn a human into some sort of human-ant hybrid. But I guess it wasn't the case, after all, since Kite didn't think much of it.
That makes perfect sense. A kid that can sense enemies hundreds of meters away and can create clones of himself just by moving getting bitten by an ant... Super ant ftw.