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It was just Rin's guess about 'uncompleted' summoning(which in fact was perfectly fine).Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
I think that you should watch FS/N first, because a lot of things won't get explained.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaniskii
Typemoon wikia is very unreliable. Very, very unreliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by fireheart
@Kaniskii: I'd watch FSN first because (1) it will expain things in more detail than here, and (2) Fate/Zero looks like it will be better, so "downgrading" would suck.
Does it really matter as I already had a faint memory of it being said and only used it to check if I was remembering it right or not since I wasn't about to download all of FSN and watch through it to find that conversation so I'd still say the same thing just without the quote. Unless you know anything else being said in the game about Arturia being able to get summoned as any other class other than Saber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xelbair
Nope, i just said that to warn people - if you want to read deeper into the story, there is really much false information on it.
Fixed for accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I think it was pretty clear with that. You don't watch a VN. You play or read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
got it, ill go burn through F/S first then. thanks for the input!
Thanks Ark. Unfortunately I can't summon the effort to add anime onto the end of everything you talk about Fate/Zero to differentiate it from the novel. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Yeah yeah i missed the "watch", sue me.
Anyway the point is that the anime was pretty meh compared to the original novel so you noobs out there should check it out
Why no one post?! I had to search for it myself! :mad:
Episode 3 by Commie
Because nobody gives a flying fuck about CommieQuote:
Originally Posted by Idealistic
UTW - Episode 3Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
EDIT: That suit and them legs. Oh, and Kiritsugu is a bastard.
I deem he's an even more broken case than Shirou. I'd also guess he knew already this woman before he met the Einzberns, and likely they haven't more than some battlefield romance. However, like Iris said, Kiritsugu can't stomach a happy life. It's the very same thing that haunted Shirou. So, even if you say he's a bastard, he's still a pitiful case and hurts himself the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhuin
This show has quite a stylish relaxed pace. I admit it's a bit annoying when watched weekly, because fights are so slow to come and happen, but otherwise it's a nice difference compared to the usual shounen shows. Rewatching, when this is all finished, will probably do this much justice.
Kirei's servant wasn't an assassin but an assassination squad? I didn't see that coming... But it surely explains fully the plot he and Tohsaka had planned - on the surface. I'm somewhat sure Kirei is already brewing his own plans and they aren't only a result of the events in this war. But time will tell.
From what Irisviel said about him and happiness, I'm not certain I can view Kiritsugu as a bastard (in terms of his women). He seems to love Iris very much, and does seem to let down his guard around her, but it is still a political marriage, so I don't know how much he can ultimately trust her. Maiya is probably the only person he truly trusts in the entire world, but she's certainly not someone he can relax around given what the two of them do. Ilya seems to be the only girl he truly loves. His minor breakdown in front of Maiya seemed to illustrate that.
Waver doesn't deserve Rider. Rider is just too cool. He's very straightforward like Saber, but comes off surprisingly wise as well. Waver's name fits him all too well.
I was amused that 4th War Lancer also lamented about not being able to tell his name to his opponent.
I love how strategically this War is being played, you move when your enemies move and may be swamped by more enemies who are on the prowl just waiting for their chance. It's so much unlike the 5th war where it seemed like Caster was the only one relying on her wits and not her power.
I won't judge Kiritsugu's character just yet, while his goal is the same as Shirou's his methods seem quite different and we've yet to be introduced to just why he chose such a path in the first place. Surely his reasons are a tad more complex than "because daddy did it". Besides, gotta love the swag :D
What in the holy name of fuck? A army of Assassins? I call hax! The plan was quite brilliant though, probably too obvious to the more experient magus but the newbies are sure to lower their guard.
It's a bit early to exactly be sure, but this show almost has me regret watching and playing FSN... which is a tad absurd since most of the awesomeness I feel comes from the knowledge I got from those previous sources.
I liked how Alexander/Rider quickly understands the powers and tools of a new era. Factoring what Saber said, he could even fly one of these B2's himself if his build wasn't too big to enter such aircrafts :D
The other half of Shirou's reason, in addition to copying Kiritsugu's dream, was the inability to accept he was the only one saved from the holocaust or how he had been unable to save anybody. For all we know, Kiritsugu might have a similar background reason. Surely he must have something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Maybe Gilgamesh doesn't like this era because everything seems to be massproduced and thus won't offer much in the way of unique treasures...Quote:
Originally Posted by David75
I'm aware and i found that part of his reasoning just as meaningless. You'd think such an event would lead him to be grateful for life that much more, not leave him eager to throw it out at every possible chance. The man stood between Saber and Berserker...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Well Gilgamesh was a man surrounded by riches and ancient architecture, even neglecting that the war is taking place in a piss poor village in the middle of nowhere Japan i think modern mass construction just doesn't appeal to him.
From memory, Gilgamesh does not like todays world because of the so many useless lives (to him) there are. I do not think he's into superior being mofo (no Godwin point here), it's just that he's maybe nostalgic of a world once populated by very few people and gods and now there's this swarm of paians and nothing else.
It seems like Rin at least partially convinced Shirou in the UBW of the wrongness of his thinking. Kiritsugu, however, never had anybody like that, judging by his character. As sweet as Iris is, she might be far too tragic herself to convince anybody... And maybe he would have been too old already, in any case. Before the Grail war, Shirou hadn't really had too many chances to live up to his inane dream (and destroy himself by doing so).Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel