yep.
I'm going to need an explanation.
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yep.
I'm going to need an explanation.
He's got multiple personalities.
The main explanation I want is: who his dad is.
so this guy is both the son of the boss and holds part of him?
is he younger than trish or older? how was the mother kept alive in the church floor?
I liked the part with the fortune-teller, dude got balls and dedication to the craft.
Oh man, are we setting up a half-brother vs. half-brother fight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
This weirdness kept my undivided attention the entire episode, and made me envious of binge watchers of the future.
This guy IS the boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
Basically the boss was born to the prison woman somehow. He's got split personalities. His dumbass persona is how he normally goes around and avoids detection. There's this weird intermediate one where he becomes a bit of a tough guy, and then the 3rd one is the sinister one with full knowledge of Stands etc.
I don't actually now if the intermediate personality is a true personality with its own thought processes, or whether it's just how his behaviour manifests while he transitions from Dumbass to Boss.
The 3rd one is always watching, and interrupts at any time he chooses (or maybe when Dumbass gets stressed out, or both). Dumbass has no idea Boss is inside of him, and just assumes he receives orders via phonecalls.
This Doppio is the Boss of the organisation. Doppio's dad is an unknown right now. Differentials would include someone who was related to the Jotaro family, Dio, or someone related to the Arrow.
doppio seems to be about the same age as trish.
so another version of 'the boss' must have been around to concieve her.
This dude's body changes. The 40-year-old-Boss-Doppio is still this one that we're seeing here.
I wonder if he actually has more than 2 personalities. And I wonder if different personalities can have different Stands.
the final bit was cool.
another good episode.
Once I accepted this season' s weirdness, I started enjoying it greatly.
However, as much As I enjoy it, I can't wait for the end/next season. Because there MUST be more about Giorno, considering he shares Dio's dna/soul. No way that the author won't bring back Dio in some way and I'm excited to see that :o
I'm afraid it's taken me until this episode to recognise the link between Abbacchio's desire to be a cop and his stand's investigative potential.
I cringed a hell of a lot at Narrancia's crying denial, but I actually do appreciate it. That scene wouldn't have worked without someone flawed and human.
28.5.
recap episode.
This is insane. What decade is this?
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FUCK YEAH! Stand lore!
the whole alien bit doesn't help much. but it is nice to know that there is finite number of arrows and that someone is keeping track.
the going down mold is really confusing, but I guess that's how stands work in this series.
Stands are Jenova!Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
I actually thought maybe the meteorite was Kars at first, but they said it fell thousands of years ago...
On a general note: it's fascinating how jojo has turned into such a hype show at this point (imo at least). I remembe really being bored by large parts of jotaro and friends travelling the world. The small town also took a long time until i got into it. And even the beginning of this current arc was so-so.
But now I'm thirsting for each new episode. I like that.
Meh, this has easily been my least favorite arc so far.
i'm with darth on this one.
i really liked the small town season (the best in my opinion), and i'm not sure if i prefer this season or the world tour/eygpt seasons. it's a tie.
This scientific way of explaining Stand Lore doesn't retcon well.
Remember when Joseph Joestar suddenly got his stand because Dio/Jonathan developed stand power? Just because Jonathan's body got infected by a virus from the old woman in Egypt doesn't automatically mean his descendants get Stand Power. If an infected person reproduces then they can pass on the virus like Hepatitis B etc, but it doesn't ignore time/space like that.
As for favourite Jojo arc, it's still Joseph Joestar for me.
and many stands are naturally occurring, like polanaref (sword guy), or most of dio henchman. or the dog who traveled with them?
and 'alien metal' still doesn't explain why some people get stands and some die.
in short, it's a non-explanation to a question that no one asked.
It's a virus that infects souls, not blood.
Which is why it infects all of Jonathan's descendants.
Part 2 is still my favorite also.
Is there anything to support this or is it a hypothesis?Quote:
Originally Posted by DEX
Which part of it? The souls part, or the Joestar bloodline part? The infects souls thing is my guess. It's a disease that causes you to manifest magic ghost powers. I don't think it's a biological disease.
As for the Joestar bloodline part, that seems fairly self-evident. DIO, Joseph, Jotaro, Holly and Josuke all got Stands/fell ill at the same time. At the time DIO shot himself with an arrow.
There's no evidence though that those were naturally occurring though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
DIO HAD arrows. All of his henchmen could just be people he shot.
They never say HOW Polnareff or Iggy got Stands. They could have easily been shot, or had family members that were shot. Just because they didn't show you how they got their stands doesn't mean they just happened spontaneously.
A. It's probably not actually metal. It's probably crazy alien ghost bones or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
B. As far as why some get Stands and some die, EVERYONE gets a Stand(Holly got her vines, one of the victims in this flashback had some kinda lightning power), just not everyone survives getting one.
As to why, why does any disease kill some people and not others? Some people are tougher than others, some people just get lucky, etc.
you can't go around mixing disease and magic ghosts! that's not a sentence!
if i remember correctly, it was the old woman who stabbed dio with the arrow, so maybe she also stabbed herself and her grandson before. maybe.
and the oingo boingo borthers, maybe they got stabbed too. we can't be sure they weren't.
and iggy, and that eagle, all got stabbed. and polanerref as wee kid, also got arrow stabbed. there was also dream monster baby, and invisible baby. maybe someone stabbed those babies with an arrow as well?
and wasn't there a pylon stand in the previous season? bet someone stabbed it as well!
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but in terms of story telling, it seems lazy. and if we say 'you can have a stand if someone in your family has a stand', we don't really need this entire thing. Some people have stands, and it runs in the family. the arrow is the exception to the rule, not the common thing. it's not supposed to be make sense, and trying to force the arrow stabs either makes it ridicoulous (as i tried to show above) or doesn't add anything to the table.
but about 'everybody gets stands', in the beginning of this season, we had the fat guy with the candle shadow stand that stabbed people to give them stands. it was supposed to stab whoever had the candle, and if they get stands, great, if not, kill them. how would that work?
The souls part. I get the whole Dio/Jonathan thing, I mentioned that in my above post. I don't buy the "infect the souls" idea because the whole virus shebang sounds too biological. However, I do concede that the biological theory can't explain why Joseph got a stand after birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEX
@DBZ: The meteorite metal contains a virus which infects people. Once it infects you, you either develop immunity or die. "Immunity" seem to come with Stand Powers. That's what's happening right now. I don't know about this "Viral Evolution" thing. Maybe the virus DNA integrates into your own, and either your body rejects it and you die.. or your body is able to accept it and you then gain special powers. Something like that.
Neither is, "I exploded into fungus because I took a step down." but that's fucking Jojo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
If it makes you guys feel better, I can call it a "curse" instead of a disease. The magic space metal gave them a curse. Is that better?
She wouldn't have had to shoot her grandson. He would have gotten a Stand when she was shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
Given that they're brothers, it seems more likely their father/mother got shot, giving them both Stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
And Part 4 specifically had rats that someone shot, just to see what would happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
And, again, there's also the possibility that maybe Polnareff or those babies weren't shot directly, someone in their family was. If shooting Jonathan's body gave all the Joestar's Stands, then it could have been Polnareff's father or grandfather, etc. that got shot with an arrow that gave Polnareff his Stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
You cite all these examples skeptically, but keep in mind that pretty much ALL of the Stand users in Part 4 got their powers when one of two people shot them with an arrow.
DIO is ACTIVELY trying to take over the world. He has arrows that give people magic powers, and the ability to mind control people. OF COURSE he's going to go around shooting people with them! Which will lead to a bunch of minions he can exploit for Stands, but also a bunch of unintended family members developing Stands, potentially scattered all over the world.
It's less about being lazy than it is about not being thought out ahead of time. Which is, unfortunately, how Jojo is written.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
The whole fungus thing is quite interesting. I went and looked it up, and I still don't quite understand how the fungus actually affects real insects in real life, but it seems to invade their muscles then somehow influence the insect to climb to a higher vantage point, bite down and subsequently starve to death - all while the fungus repairs to spawn from its body and drift into the wind.
Episode 30
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I probably have to breathe that mould in for it to start working on your body (as opposed to contact spread).
For one, Oasis/Sanctuary isn't affected by the mould - and he was also super concerned about his face after getting hit.
Who guessed that it was going to be old mate Polenareff? I sure as hell didn't.
I thought going WRYYY was just a vampire thing, but I guess it's genetic.
Polenareff was a big ol' doof. Surprised he got involved with the mob, somehow, but I always enjoy character reunions, so I'm on board...
the defintion of 'going down' seems to be very loose..
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Well shit. Some part you had in this Polnareff.
So how many arrow heads do we have accounted for? He sold 5 and kept 1 for himself(which is the one he gave to Polpo). And Jotaro retrieved 2 from Morioh. And Dio had one right?(or I guess 5 at one point) So there's at least 2 more out there?
Omg, great episode. Wonder who the guy at the end is. Polnareff doesn't lie on the ground anymore, so it almost seemed as if he activated a new power that transformed him? If not, this is obviously an ally ofhis, but who? At first I was thinking 'fuck yes, Jotaro showtime!', but it's obviously not him.
No clue what's going on, but it's cool and tense so whatever.
It would seem highly unprobably that Polnareff wouldn't contact Jotaro after reviving, so that group of friends must get involved here somehow. Come to think of it, we haven't seen our friend Koichi in a while.
I do think it's funny how Diavolo looks so normal in all the flashbacks but now he looks like...well...a Jojo character.
The crap with Bucciarati seeing souls is just kinda nonsense.
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Okay so, if an arrow pierces a stand, the stand gets crazy new powers but only as long as it holds on to the arrow?
Seems like going the Kira route of stabbing yourself again and gaining another Stand is the more convenient way to go.
Prediction: Stands actually ARE the aliens that built the arrows. First they need a host to *exist* again. Then they need to be pierced by the arrow themselves to regain consciousness.
There we have our next epic arc: Rebellion of the Stands - Return of the Ripples!
Yeah, but each arrow gives gives a bunch of different people Stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Or do all the alien ghosts hang out in one place and every time someone gets stabbed it's like "Now serving number 42" and they go and possess the person?
And, holy shit, are Stands just Scientology?
Brain wave compatibility? 🤷*♀️Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
Anyway, it just reminded me of something, and then I knew. It'd be like Attack on Titan: There, they need a syringe first, then eat a titan. So also a 2-step evolution.
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I bet even though he's switched bodies, he's still sharing a body with one of the heroes.
That's entirely possible. I think initially that might have been the case, but right now Narancia's body is free. I feel like he did all of that just so he could have a free body to work in again - and hence why Trish felt his soul for one moment as she left the Colosseum.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
Narancia :(
Eh, the Gang Stars are such dipshits it's hard to get too broken up when they die.
I didn't feel the emotions, either. None of the characters really got enough development or endeared themselves enough to me (except maybe Mista) to elicit emotion at their death. Jojo characters do mostly share a similar voice and tone such that I've never seen it as a character focused series... it more thrives on its spectacle and suspense/mystery, in my opinion.
Episode 38
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I'm not sure that I read this right, but the logic seems to be:
-I am righteous, therefore what I will for is the truth.
That's pretty game breaking.
I assume next week is the last episode of the Part, since this week was the SFX version of the OP, I assume next week is just gonna skip the OP.
Still enjoying this anime greatly. The awakened stand of Giorno's really looks like an alien now. Wonder if an earlier theory turns out true (aliens created the arrows, stands hit by arrows rejawaken aliens that somehow parked their souls).
I'm wondering if the next arc features the afterlife in a big way anyway, because this episode wasn't the first to touch on the topic of 'souls', but it definitely was the most in-your-face appliance of souls. Both Buccarati saying goodbye, and Mista worrying about Trish' soul drifting away.
Exploring the afterlife would allow for some cool shit, like meeting previous Jojos, but also bringing back Dio :o
I mean, the ghost thing isn't new. We got to see Iggy and Avdol's ghosts way back in Part 3. And Part 4 had a whole important ghost character.
Fuck! No new episodes until the two part finale on the 28th!
That's not even the right day!
38 and 39 are out.
I can see why this is supposedly the black sheep of JoJo arcs/parts. I just didn't enjoy it overall as much as other parts. The gangSTARS were generally unlikable, and most characters had to act very stupid/unobservant for the stand battles to garner much tension, which felt artificial. The story felt like it didn't really go anywhere by the end as well. What was Giorno's goal again? Is there any reason Polnareff is a pet now? The flashback arc could have been interesting, if it didn't feel like the biggest ret-con in Jojo history because there was no other foreshadowing about Buchirati's death in the whole arc. It was the kind of thing that was entertaining enough until I looked back on what it revealed and got annoyed.
When Diavolo was experiencing his autopsy in the eternal punishment-no-jutsu, I thought he was time looping to the prison where his mother was impregnated and finally giving life to that old Chuck Norris joke that he must have fathered himself... but not so.
Still looking forward to part six, whenever that comes out, but more in a "I've been watching this for 7 years; might as well check out the new season" kind of way. Maybe my Jojo passion has run its course? It is markedly juvenile, after all. Hope you all enjoy the finale more than I did.
Become a gangster.Quote:
What was Giorno's goal again?
I loved this whole arc. There was a little slump after at the beginning, but when that had passed, it was great. Especially when the 2nd opening was introduced, which I have never skipped because it made the show feel like a movie.
My favorite thing about this part of Jojo was that I didn't know AT ALL where the story was going. First you have Giorno, who's weirdly connected to both Jojo and Dio, want to become a gangster. Then they have to find Trish. Then Trish is about to be murdered and they have to protect her. Now the mystery of the boss' identity needed to be solved. Then we find out about the boss shizophrenic nature and Bucciarati's odd situation. Then we find out about alien arrows and the boss appears. Unexpected deaths happen and the boss is defeated in a great, creative way.
And now I have no idea what comes next. I love it.
I thought about how most anime suffer from too tightly defined 'goals'. It makes the story progression feel rather formulaic. It's more exciting (imo) when a story is allowed to evolve into something.l totally unexpected. HXH springs to mind constantly introducing new situations that made you question if Gon's still trying to find his dad. A more expected progression can be good, too, but it works better for shorter series. See Death Note where the first half was perfect, but the 2nd half started to drag a bit.
Anyway, Jojo has been my most looked forward to weekly anime, I hope the next part airs doon,
Seriously! Are they just not gonna explain the woman in the floor at all?! Is that just another "Araki forgot" thing, like time traveling Josuke?
It's SO FUCKING TIRESOME!Quote:
Originally Posted by neflight86
Like the 20th fucking time we have the exact same exchange of "I saw something weird." "What? You're talking nonsense." "No wait, somethings happening!!" "What? Like what?" "Oh, nevermind, I guess was nothing."
IT'S NEVER FUCKING NOTHING! Every tiny thing is an enemy fucking Stand! And every time you ignore it, Mista ends up with a bunch of bullet holes in him!
It happened again this episode. "Bucciarati! Don't touch that!" "What? Why? Is it a Stand?" "Run away! Get out of the building!" "Huh? What? Explain it to me first." "You have to get out of here now!!" "But what is that?"
I swear if someone yelled "DUCK!" these motherfuckers would stand there and ask the yeller to explain it.
DA FUCK?
this stone thing should have been at episode four or five, and have naracninaa, abbracio and buccaraiti instead. then we would have been calling this 'foreshadowing' rather than 'post season filler'.
i'm not sure if i think this is worse than Egypt season, but it's definitely not good. stupid unlikable characters, the traditional slow pace of interactions between them that always is opposite of what the scene requires, and most of all, a lack of purpose. the whole thing is more suited to be introductory arc, rather than the whole story.
i have no idea what the characters would do if the boss didn't decide to kill trish, or if she wasn't revealed. did jojo have a plan what to do once he was in the gang? was it always the plan to kill the top dogs? why did we tie them to the previous jojos if they never come to interact again? what was the point of fugou if he didn't get a closure?
do i know now more about the jojo lore than earlier? no. i've got more questions. are they interesting questions? also no.
Lol, so once again I'm the only one who likes an anime. :D Oh well.
Uh, no, that wouldn't be foreshadowing. That'd be straight up telling you everything that's going to happen, and I don't need that thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
This is less post-season filler and more giving you a nostalgic scene of the Gang-Stars together before they died.
I don't dislike Jojo. I just find that one particular aspect really frustrating and repetitive at this point in the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
These people and their treatment of Stands borders on the level of Shaggy and Scooby still not realizing that every horrible monster is just an old man in a mask.
Everynody should get to enjoy this :D
https://youtu.be/z5NOH2dEv_s
And I did!
and so did I!
The first 13 episodes of Part 6 just dropped all at once.
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This prison has the laxest dresscode ever.
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Ooh! Are they gonna bring Dio back?!
Wait. The new season with the female Jojo is out already? And everything at once?!
Sigh. As can be seen with this thread, this netflix-style release kills all hype :/
watched it.
as all JoJo, it was increably stylish and profoundly silly.
the not-a-ghost kid was probably the most uncanny looking thing in the series history
I'd say this feels like one of the better Jojo runs.
Kujo (who the fuck changed the spelling anyway) Jotaro should be able to apply reason in combat anyway and function rather well once his Star Platinum is back. He'll lack the lore and experience, but Jojo Intuition goes far.
Anyway, so the sleeping melting shit in the Visitor's Room wasn't really explained in the end.
I thought it was part of White Snake's stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I wasn't so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
It's just so different to memory eject, and he hasn't used it since.
Ponderance: Can he use more than one Stand disk at a time? If so, maybe he was using 2 powers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
Oh yeah. Forgot that can actually use powers he steals instead of just making grunts.
Little late, but I just got around to it.
That's pretty Jojo, alright.
Aside from being altogether too fabulous, this series excels at putting the characters in no-win states that require some truly mind (and logic) bending happenstance to escape. It was always entertaining, and the horror-like elements continue to amuse.
The character designs themselves have gone waaay more over the top than ever before. Not costumes/outfits, but I'm talking full on elf ears, horns, and other cranial deformities, by the looks of it. Araki just can't be constrained by the limitations of the human form anymore, it seems.
Stone Ocean episode 1:
Wtf is wrong with these character designs?! The lawyer is straight up a goblin. And then at the end there's that small guard that also looks like some monster.
Not a fan of Jolyne's ability, seems too powerful. Extremely versatily and super long reach. Feels like she could just sit in her cell and kill everyone in the prison, then grab the keys to her cell with a thread and leave.
episode 9:
ok, that was a bad episode. The whole time they take soooo long to throw the ball. And then at the end Jolyne had no trouble throwing a 1000 times in an even more difficult way. Turned everything before that scene into needless drama/filler. Tbh the entire episode could be removed, since it has no connection to any bigger plots.
Done with the 12 episodes.
So far this is, unfortunately, the worst season of Jojo imo. Although it's basically on par with the first half of the Kira-season and the first half of the travel-the-world season, so maybe the second half will greatly improve my final impression of this season.
I can't help but feel that this is so awfully small-scale. A prison as a fixed location just isn't that exciting. Then there seems more bs to happen that I'm used to from even the Jojo-anime. That fight against the zero-gravity guy, just how much blood do Jolyne and Weather Report have?! And then at the end she takes two gun shots to the stomach and lives?! But not only that, stays conscious and fights of the frogs and White Snake? Meh.
My problem with the Golden Wind-season was that it was so completely detached from the Jojo-family and the Dio-arc, but at least it built up to being utterly epic and had kinda likeable characters. Stone Ocean has a connection with the Jojo-family, but the whole plot so far just feels so low-key, it's not very exciting. The whole premise of the fantastic, unbeatable Jotaro, and then he goes down that easily? Meh again.
Having said all that, it was still enjoyable, so there's that.
Low stakes?! That guy might be bringing back Dio!
and hopefully he succeeds, because this series really needs him.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
My main problem with this prison arc is that no one needs to hang arround prison bar the priest. Everyone else is powerful enough to leave with little repercussion. I doubt the priest would manhunt you across the globe. If he wanted his subjects to stay in prison so much, then he'd better keep an eye on the remaining ones instead of chasing the leaver.
The prison setting is kind of cool though.
Just watched episode 4 of part 2 of Stone Ocean. This isn't new in this episode, but it was the worst offender here: Damage means nothing anymore it seems :/ We saw Jolyne take terrible damage, especially the punch combo near the end, but somehow she just got through that and beat the guy in the end.
It just doesn't feel satisfying when battles are this artbitrary. It makes the whole part before the conclusion meaningless.
So far, I have no idea why so many call Stone Ocean the best Jojo-arc. I'm all for a female Jojo and I like Joylne, but the story she gets is awful.
I have never heard anyone say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
What do you expect me to reply to that?
https://c.tenor.com/be9gaBFH1dYAAAAC/kirk-mccoy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Just finished part 2, and I'm surprised I didn't see (expect) it not finishing in these twelve eps.
I don't know what it is, maybe the dreaded "Twin Towers" syndrome of starting and ending in the middle of an arc, but this really felt like spinning wheels to me. Of course things happened and we are presumably out of the prison now, but the whole thing was entertaining, but just not very interesting. I struggle to discuss any plot elements, but rather would like to dissect what Jojo is to me as of right now.
I don't know if this drive for horror spectacle is or has been the intent of Jojo for a while now, but it's starting to lose me. In the early era of stand Jojo, the stands themselves had fairly straightforward powers that were somewhat limited by how physically strong they were or how far away they could operate from their owner, giving some sense of balance to them. That no longer appears to be the case, for better or worse. A minor annoyance, as the real issue I take is that the trademark bizarreness has become firmly forced in my eyes. Random things happen and arbitrary explanations crop up later to 'justify' them, if they even attempt at all. Of course supernatural powers are going to break apart logically at some level, but the abilities and limitations are just becoming nonsensical as much as they are bizarre.
That leads to the fights looping into a formula of "something strange happens", "we realize we have fallen into a trap", "everybody calls each other idiots for struggling in that trap", a "false escape into despair", and "some ham-fisted stroke of luck or tactic saves the day". That has always been the basic structure of a post-hamon Jojo fight, but when we have no actual concept of the breadth or limitations of these powers, we are expected to simply turn off our brains and accept whatever the author tells us at face value about what's going on. This leads to characters saying (shouting) some pretty banal exposition in nebulous 'anime-time' where the seconds between life and death can transpire one half episode. Since the characters all share the same hyper masculine 'voice' (even if their designs become evermore effeminate), there is no one to connect with or care about, and the tension resides in the spectacle alone, or reveling in the absurdity of it- for the memes, if you will.
Let me put it this way: What do you remember the most about your favorite Jojo fights since... part 3 or so? It is likely the spectacle of the turnaround victory, not the beginning discovery or 'you sprung my trap, bakka!' portions which make up so much of each encounter. Everything builds up to the last saving twist, but that has become rote and much less engaging.
I hope the change of setting and re-introduction of Dio's menace might let this finish on a stronger note.
I was shocked when I realized there's gonna be a part 3, ugh :/ Really not looking forward to another 12 episodes of this quality.
And I agree with neflight, the focus of Jojo has become something I don't enjoy anymore. The anime has become bizarre for being bizarre's sake, even at the cost of coherent storytelling. The thing is, it couldn't be more of a contrast following Golden Wind. Now don't think I'm saying GW is guilt-free of over-bizarre shit. But ultimately it managed to drive a story forward, going from place to place, and the battles ultimately made sense and were fun to watch. When I think of battles like in the train against the "brothers" or the mirror battle. And then the slow build-up to meeting the final villain. Superb.
Of course, there were weaker seasons, too, like half the world travel-arc and half the small town-arc were boring as fuck. But Stone Ocean most of the time feels like random shit happening AND everyone involved comes off as a total idiot. So much screaming because another trap was activated or someone realizes something, "WAAAaaaaaa!". If Joseph wa alive, we'd hear his "OH MY GOD" like a dozen times each episode.
Since neflight asked the question "what is Jojo for you?", I'd like to answer: My favorite seasons still are season 1 and 2, with Golden Wind being third. The reason is that there was a constant, perceivable escalation of powers. Things were bizarre, but it didn't feel like bs out of nowhere most of the time. And then, ofc, there were much more memorable villains (and friends). The problem imo is that the anime never managed to flesh out everyday life in this world. Even the smalltown arc didn't take time to just show us these characters' lives enough. When dramatic, effect-overloaded scenes follow up one after the other, it loses its effect on the audience and becomes tiresome, boring even.
There's, ofc, also the core issue that Dio is THE villain of the series, and that's what makes it hard to write the story: On one hand we all want Dio back, on the other hand he'd become lame if he appeared in every season, only to be defeated again. It'd be like Ganon.
My hope for SO part 3 is that it actually ends with a "bad end" and Dio's re-awakening. It'd be the worst case if Dio awakened early in part 3 and then was defeated by Jolyne and Jotaro again, ugh. If that happeneed I'd probably be done with the series. The only way to keep a villain fresh is by letting him win sometimes. And aren't there several other Jojos alive concurrently that could take over even if Jotaro and Jolyne are killed? Giorno should be a mafia boss. Smalltown-Jojo (forget his name) is younger than Jotaro and he's a muscle head, so he could probably replace Jotaro. And then there's his small friend who also got a stand and is still alive. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for.
Still only flashback Dio. Hopefully in part 3.
Part 3 is newly released, right?
No, it came out in, like....December.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
That's what happens when you guys don't post about it :/Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
I haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Just wasn't in a Jojo mood.
Okay. I watched it.
Part 6 - Part 3
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That was a real wtf ending. I know that Part 7 is some kind of reboot, so I guess now I know why.
I did geek out when Roundabout hit though.
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So pretty much every final boss since they introduced Stands had a time stand:
3 - Stop time
4 - Loop time
5 - Remove time
6 - Accelerate time
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I noticed that Weather Report got a Stand because Pucchi used the arrow on himself. Which kind of confirms my theory that the arrow's power travels through bloodlines. And the reason all the Joestars got Stands back in Part 3 is because Jonathan's body was pierced by the arrow.
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I gotta say though, I don't think I enjoyed this series much in Parts 5 and 6. Like, it just keeps getting weirder, but doesn't get...better, ya know. And Jojo's overblown sorta badness is charming at first when you can just be like "Well, this was written in the 80s." But once you're in the 2000s it's like "These characters should be less stupid by now. This guy's been doing this for 30 years."
I'm still far from finishing it. Stone Ocean is easily the worst Jojo arc. The part 3 is so uber bad. Abilities are so wtf that I don't understand what's going on anymore and victory/loss feels entirely random.
Really hope the next arc returns to the level of Golden Wind or even the first two seasons. Tell me the abilities of a character and then write a fight based on those without any bs.
Spoilers for for the end:
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Disappointed Dio didn't return. REALLY thought that's what they were setting up.
Also, lul, Jotaro only knows one way to die:
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As I complained about over the last year, I think the whole part six was one big misstep. The author's need to escalate the powers and villains has long since passed comical proportions. The supporting cast was also pretty weak, or rather, has always been from a character perspective as these folks could have been switched out with the ones from part five and I'd expect their fights to play out just as... bizarre. The last supporting cast that felt like it had any personality was probably part 4 which was, ironically, mostly kids. If next series is a reboot, I'm all for it resetting to a lower scope where the laws of space and time don't have to be abstracted to make battles even possible with these god-like powers.Quote:
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Remember when Jonathan Joestar's powers were ripples? Good times.
Finished Ocean Stone for the sake of it.
I don't know if weekly releases would have made it more interesting or not with discussions. I just had to stop thinking and let the story play out.
Part 2 is my favourite definitely. 6 is my least favourite, and the rest I move up or down depending on mg selective memory and mood. Funnily enough I remember Part 4's antagonist being Kira but I had forgotten who the main Jojo of that arc was until I looked it up.