HS - Episode 18
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His name isn't fucking kirito in the real world perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
/thumbs-up @ Sugu.
I'm laughing whenever the Fairy King talks about his atrocious plans (in all meanings of the word). The more he makes himself out to be an asshole, the more I smile at the ease with which I can hate him.. as well as his inevitable downfall.
I'm wondering which of the following bug undid the masking:
1) masking does not work via reflections
2) masking does not work if another play is not looking (an extension of 1)
3) masking does not work if seen through transparent textures such as wings
4) a combination of the above 3.
Really? I was sure itīs his real name. If so, do we know his real one?Quote:
Originally Posted by darkshadow
Also, the unmasking of the code-UI was super stupid. Why canīt we have believable ways of defeating the big bad villain? Itīs mindbaffeling that the programming-mastermind would overlook such thing.
What have you been watching all this time?
Kirito told Asuna his real name, Kirigaya Kazuto, when she asked for it.
I would rather believe that the secret code bug is something the dumbass villian did, not the genius who programmed SAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
So much Sugu and Yui fanservice.
Kirigaya Kazuto is the main character's name. He probably never told Sugu about what happened in SAO because A) she probably didn't want to ask, and B) he probably doesn't want to go over it. "Yea, I had to kill this guy because he was about to kill me. This one time I got 5 other people killed."Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
I've never gotten the impression that Sugou Nobuyuki is any kind of programmer. If anything he seems more like a corporate businessman/manager type. He probably couldn't code his way out of a paper bag.
I'm wondering if that code is some kind of trap...
I don't know... that guy doesn't seem to smart. Just horny.Quote:
Originally Posted by David75
Yeah, it certainly didn't surprise me the masking was absent in the reflection. Maybe such censoring wasn't even present in the original code since it's a medieval setting, both SAO and Alfheim, so there's hardly any need to blur any keypads. Sugou probably asked some coder to implement such a thing just to piss off Asuna, and the coder did it in five minutes because that's really all anybody would want to spend on anything such a douche asks, and consequently never even considered special conditions like reflections. Sugou himself is clearly too stupid to think of things as complicated as that. Still, it won't do Asuna much good right now. With admin powers Sugou could likely track her down any time.
I liked you SAO - now you are just another title that makes cyberspace boring.
With the crescendo of increasingly dangerous monsters/levels/floors/traps gone, it feels like the whole second season got it's pacing from Oberinspektor Derrick. It's painful. And now the plot holes are so gaping, looking at them shuts down my liver functions.
I apologize to the Gotwoot community - ten pages back in this thread I was still pushing you guys to give this show a chance, now I just want to drink myself to sleep with lead based paint.
Just started watching this a couple days ago and caught up today.I agree it's kind of unfortunate, the show was really great with all the original tension caused by the whole SAO "die in game, die in real life" thing. Now this whole fairy land thing just seems boring in comparison. I suppose Asuna's life is still technically in danger, but it's not really the same. Also this whole "love square" thing they've got going on isn't interesting so much as it's weird (not that that isn't typical) and annoying. Hopefully it can get back to the greatness of the SAO arc, but i don't see how.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inazuma
HS - Episode 19
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I think the fact that Alf is just a normal online game works better than the death-game SAO that was attempted earlier. The idea was good for the death-game, but they didn't end up putting enough weight/reality behind it (except for the first episode). With this game, they can leave it all behind and just do whatever.
I guess I underestimated the importance of magic in comparison to physical prowess in Alfheim. Even Kirito's haxor stats are useless against certain types of magic. I suppose it makes perfect sense, with the game so magic heavy. But then again, the monster form seemed to be able to put to use his uber stats, so he didn't lose anything.
But good job, dude, making your sister fall in love with you all over again even online. They are both hopeless.
What seemed weird was that the monster was more of a transformation than an illusion. The damage and reach of the arms/jaws matched that of the image. It wasn't as if Kirito was projecting a hologram around his humanoid body, which is what an illusion would suggest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
That's my only real problem with this episode.
Had to post this here cause it made me cackle:
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[ 01:33:47 ] <Y> since the leader of the guild inside SAO world was just giving himself powers, Kirito might literally be the only person who ever developed such a unique ability
[ 01:33:57 ] <Y> so basically he is so powerful he can fuck with the rules of video games and destroy them
[ 01:34:06 ] <Y> like a kid being so good at mario 64 he can punch bowser in half
Man, all these MMORPG-player are such full-on super nerds. How serious all of them are over this GAME. Oh no, a player chose a different in-game race ... HE CANNOT BE A FRIEND!
Guess taking acting classes is a requirement before playing these games, lol.
And I just cant stop thinking about how this anime completely ignores the real world-consequences that these Matrix-like "games" should create. When youīre free to jump into such adventurous, exotic, fun worlds, your sense for the real world HAS to change. For the worse.
Oh, and Harem. Sigh. Had Ichika-flashbacks during this episode :/
HS - Episode 20
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If it requires 2-handed skill to equip a 2-handed sword, dual wielding should logically have the same requirement. We haven't learned that it's a skill in this game, and if it was it'd make sense for Kirito to have taken advantage of it. It's highly unlikely that it was a skill in in the backward Alfeim Cardinal since it was only added as a special gift in SAO.
Kirito randomly raising money was also weird since he was dissatisfied with the cash he had when he tried to buy a sword before the trip. Raising that amount from doing a little walking is also BS.
But whatever. I wonder how much time is left until Asuna gets married off.
(edit: just to add some more to that "???" list, Yui has used the term "Papa" a lot already. It makes no sense that Leafa wouldn't have enquired about who "Mama" is)
Someone just explain to me why this Salamander guy exploded in a huge fireball when he died, as opposed to how everyone else Kirito has killed so far just turns into a flickering flame normally.
Gundams clearly explode when they get cut in half.
I don't think Kirito was dissatisfied with his amount of money, but instead confused. This episode made clear he had a ton of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
Hasn't it only been like a day or 2 since he met the guy at the hospital? I think he still has a decent amount of time left.
If Yui was just an AI pixie that was programmed to call its master "Papa", why would there be a "Mama"? That doesn't really follow at all. Leafa is obviously confused by Yui, but she doesn't seem to consider it is some super advanced AI. She's too busy focusing on Kirito himself.
He seemed to have some kind of reactive explosion type ability he used the first time he was getting owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryllharu
But the real answer is probably just that it looked cool.
I was pretty impressed with the aerial battle this episode. Hopefully we get some more cool battles.
Except Yui specifically mentioned "cheating", to which you'd ask "cheating from whom?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Moogle
True. She seems to be more preoccupied with her Kirito-lust, though.
Maybe Leafa already has a hint that whoever Kirito is looking for is Mama.
I like Sugu far more than Asuna, Can't we have a pairing switch?
I thought that was the other guy skill he used again at the last second before Kirito owned him. That explosion fire skill.
As for the Gold, I thought the Gold carried over with his stats and the AI from SAO.
As for cheating, his heart rate increased when the 2 girls pressed up against him. So she said he not suppose to be cheating, on Momma. :P
What I don't get is, he had a hard time against the Mages and yet he owned the 2nd strongest Salamander in the game with ease. Despite the levels, cause clearly his level 78 carried over. That would mean he is twice the levels of everyone else in Alfeim?
Plus everyone keeps saying Kirito has crappy gear and he's owning everything in sight. If that's the case, why doesnt he upgrade to better gear and really dominate the game? A main armor, plus some Sub gears, Boots, gauntlets, bracelets, etc etc. Depending on the game you play. Rings with regeneration stats, etc etc.
Clearly he is under equipped but still a power house. Maybe that's the final episode, he gets the best gear and saves Asuna. :P
There are no levels in ALO right? I thought only skills leveled up, and everyone had the same base stats excluding armor and weapons.
It was clearly mentioned in the show that ALO is a skill based game, not a grind fest. It is closer to 1st person shooters than RPGs in terms of combat.
And Kirito wasn't level 78 when he completed SAO.
Disregarding the level, which is basically only a number without much inherent meaning, what you are saying is the total opposite of others, who maintain the game has no skills (that would, for example, finish sword attacks for you), but it has stats that make your faster or stronger (which would explain perfectly Kirito's haxor superiority). The magic, for example, requires the player to memorize the words to be quick enough in combat. That in itself means there's no aiding skill, but likely there's a stat derivative in the form of a growing mana pool, I'd imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
ALF has skill points. The more you use a skill, the more that skill increases. They never specified how the increased skill proficiency helps you out - whether it simply adds to your damage and speed.. or something more active (for example, in terms of magic perhaps the higher your skill the less words you have to chant to use the same spell).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
While Kirito isn't lvl78 (or whatever it is), his skill points are the ones carried over. In SAO, I would imagine that whenever you gain a level you gain points to allocate into the skills of your choice. In ALF, you have to earn those through usage - Kirito got a headstart though.
Still, the fact that Kirito beat the guy with shitty weapons/armour is pretty BS. Those mages would have killed him had it not been for Leafa's healing. In SAO it was emphasised that besides having a ridiculously high level, Kirito also had a ridiculous drop to go with it. It's a lot harder to believe that Kirito should have won this fight without a good sword.
If only we could..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinta
Kirito was clearly dissatisfied at the "Yuld" he had in episode 18, 5:33. But logically, if he had the money there's no way he wouldn't get better gear. He's out to save Asuna after all. Kirito doesn't sound like the guy to go under-prepared in a video game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowskill
Oh ok, that makes a lot more sense like that. I didnt even think that way about how they raise stats or how they are awarded lol.
Hmm... So, it has skills, but you have to practice those in earnest to... what? Do they increase a damage multiplier? The same effect would be perfectly achievable through stats. Does that mean there are no stats? Kirito clearly shows superhuman speed right off the bat, which does indicate a high speed (whatever the name) attribute, not a skill. Or did the author ever even bother to think about it all?
Pretty confusing, but whatever the case, Kirito did bring over from SAO such stats/skills that only a fool would challenge him to a sword fight. SAO was all about melee fights, whereas Alfheim obviously heavily temps to use magic, yet Alfheim was built using SAO's engine, so there's no particular reason the obvious sloppy coders would have touched too much the melee parts. That means only somebody who would have paid no attention to magic at all during his time in Alfheim would be anywhere close to Kirito. I consider that somewhat unlikely, especially among real gamer prodigys (such as Kirito is made to be by this show). So, winning the carelessly arrogant Salamander dude wasn't such a huge stretch, especially if the damage multiplier favours skill (since there apparently are such, after all) and not whatever material the sword is made of or any magical bonuses in it.
Well SAO has shown broken Game Theory logic since the beginning - it plays like a MMO Action JRPG and leveling works like Morrowindish's xp system. (which ended up in player bunny hopping around the maps for increased stats )
It didn't look like a "dissatisfied" reaction. I took as more of an "Oh crap, I have the absurd amount of money I had in SAO." It was more about being worried he'd be identified as a cheater. If he gets banned by a GM, or noticed by Oberon/douchebag, he's done. At least that's the way I took it. I felt the recent episode confirmed that when he dropped the enormous bag of the stuff on the two leaders. Just beating that one guy wouldn't have given him the funds to build an army of his own. The Cait Sith leader was stunned at the quantity of what was inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
If the stats are the same values between the two games, and custom items (Yui's soul) have the same value, money very likely has the same values. Probably all hex codes.
It is a shame they don't go into the details of how everything works in the anime, though maybe that would be pretty boring to watch if they just explained everything. There's probably a way to make it good, but the lazy approach is to just show the action and let anyone who cares about how the systems work to go read the novels.
I don't mind them not explaining stuff, I do hate it though that his sister doesn't even bother to ask where he got all that money from even though Kirito doesn't know shit about the game and doesn't even try to hide it
no matter how you look at it, for her it must seem like she is playing with a cheater/hacker and she doesn't even care
"as long as he is in my team, he can do whatever he wants"
It's enough for her as long as she gets wet in his company. Hasn't that much been made obvious? Kirito is a pussy magnet and nobody ever asks any questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
She barely knew anything about games before playing ALO, so it doesn't seem that surprising that she's just like, "Wow, this guy is amazing" vs. "He must be a haxor"
There are certainly stats, just no overall player levels. It was commented this episode that the general had to have +950 in 2-Hand to even use the sword, so skill points also empower players in areas outside of sheer ratings (more than just dmg,hp etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
@Ryll: I suppose that's the only reasonable explanation behind all that money. But didn't Kirito said he was poor after he bought that house with Asuna?
Kirito beat the final boss in the game, maybe he had some loots on him?
Episode 21 - HS
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So, unethical scientists like to use tentacle monster avatars. Nothing is better for molesting girls, so it makes perfect sense.
I bet the next time Asuna won't hesitate before pressing the button.
Tentacle Rape
A truly incompetent admin (I was sure he had intentionally let her escape. Apparently, she truly escaped against this foolīs will)
WTF @ hesitating to push "log out"?! These tentacles would have never reached her, had she just pushed down on the button. Wow, did that make me angry.
And nothing really happened. Only cool scene: Kirito taking off into the sky at the end, ignoring the knowledge about not being able to reach Asuna that way.
Based on Asuna's performance in this episode it looks like she didn't carry over her high stats and skills from SAO. If the fool Sugou made sure that didn't happen, it's funny he didn't set it so nobody else will either. There's no end to his idiocy.
He did his due diligence when he ported her over, making sure she couldn't access menus, and therefore be unable to log out.
He also covered everyone who is now a disembodied brain in a steel case.
What he didn't account for when they ported the data from SAO was that any of the traumatized players who were released would come right back to similar games, and have the same username. Or at least that's what I would guess.
So boring. The only thing they seemed to Emphasize was the "Love" Leafa has for her brother in both the game and in reality.
5 Episoded left I think. I hope they make them worth while.
Pool Leafa's going to have have her heart broken twice. :'(
By the same guy. I can't believe how I much I want Asuna to die now.
Donīt worry. No reason for broken hearts: As it turns out, Asuna cannot leave the virtual world anymore. There, Asuna becomes Kiritoīs ingame-girl, whil his sister can become his real life-bride.
Everyoneīs happy.
Except our own sanity.
Yeah. Surely it would work much better the other way around. Romantically loving your brother leads nowhere.
Asuna might not want to play anymore after this, after all that happened, but Kirito actually has looked pretty happy a few times during Alfheim, so there's no reason he wouldn't visit virtual worlds also in the future. Since it's all virtual and they are basically different people inside the game, Sugu could go all brocon in the game no problem. Not that it would help her found a wholesome life in any way.
Japan's inability to separate family love and romantic love is as creepy as ever.
Itīs more on the annoying side than the creepy side, imo. I mean, all this teasing about incest in anime is boring, got old long time ago. How many anime actually go through with incestuous relationships, especially such that donīt make it their whole focus? Myself;Yourself comes to mind, but other than that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
I got a few other examples, but that would be spoiling.
There's a lot of cousin-screwing, just like Kirito and Sugu would be.
It's because cousin relationships are legal, even if frowned upon, in Japan.
Freakin A, were we really about to see tentacle rape??!?
The was no way they weren't going to slip a tentacle bondage scene in given how hard this story tries to pander to fantasy anime tropes. From the moment I saw her watching the keypad through the reflection I knew that she expected that she would escape just long enough to show us more of what's going on in the tower and then get recaptured. Once again Asuna demonstrates that she has exactly enough agency to come within a hairsbreadth of not needing someone to save her from whatever sticky stuation she finds herself in, nice try....not.
new ep is out.
The incest, it is overflowing
Oh gawds ... Have mercy on Japan.
yay i'm so happy for them. their feelings having finally come out.
A funny episode. Kirito first trying to bash through the barrier head first on sheer guts like a fly trying to get through a window was funny, and it got even more hilarious with the "dramatic" fight against the overpowering mass of enemies in the dome. Those scenes were so comical that I was still snickering by the time the big revelation came to the siblings. It must have sucked for Sugu to fall twice for the same guy whose favour she's destined not to gain, but on the other hand all the better it was terminated this quickly and not much later.
11/10 show, great comedic value.
HS - Episode 22
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I like Sugu and this totally sucks for her, but this episode also reminded me that there really isn't any rightful partner for Kirito other than Asuna.
Why? If Asuna just died, Sugu would have a chance for happiness.
Well... yeah. If sheQuote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
diesis removed from existence...
Next stop on her breakdown...she goes full on Gasai Yuno.
End of Evangelion Renewal V3 40minutes in = SAO Ep 22 12minutes in
One does not ripoff Gendo material in such fashion without repercussions .
MC thinks a new move, and it overpowers a system barrier...
Then, all of that protects a door that's not supposed to be used by anyone except admins. Why put it there in the first place...
But for some reason that IRL looking access card might work with a proper console... no wait, use that pixie as a console, much better and... it works except it's not your average door it's a teleportation device... why open the damn stones just to active a teleportation device?
Oh, and MC is telling her sister he might just get her depending on what happens next. He wants ass, regardless...
If I absolutely had to come up with some explanations, it's possible it really was a door covering a teleportation device, placed there for a quest that was never activated. But there might still have been an admin console there ready and waiting, should some admin want to tinker with it in-game. Yui could have simply bypassed displaying the visible console (she's an AI, after all, not a human needing a visual UI) and activated the door using the card and the console.
But then again, this is SAO where nothing needs to make sense. Just like suddenly combining two swords to produce an uber move out of the blue...
@David:
It's okay, just say the show is shit. Which it is. This episode was ridiculously bad.
The budget sucked for this episode apparently. Way too many stills and reused footage.
All I could think about during this episodeīs first half: How can Leafa/Sugu fly with these huge tits.
Lots of nonsensical deus-ex-machina, as all of youīve already covered above. Still bummed out by the fact how much potential this story had at the beginning. sigh
I nearly expected Kirito to shout " Bankai " when he combined the two swords.
I think cause it is a game environment and gravity and air are not a possibility, she can fly despite her massive tit size. :P
I agree, Kirito only wants ass. Why else would he tell his sister "Depends what happens next" knowing she wants to be with him so badly. Almost like he's expecting Asuna to die, Lol.
3 Episodes left. I hope they go better than this episode.
Asuna will become mind controlled and becomes the Ultimate Boss that Kirito needs to cut down in order to free her from her terrible fate which would in turn kill her. Would that make the show a bit better?
Would be better if he kills the guy trying to mind control Asuna and when he dies, he dies IRL like SAO players. That would be better. :D
Asuna becomes a SexDoll and Sugu his legitimate wife?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin
That would probably work for most the fans of this show, Lol.
No, I'd rather Asune stay how she is now and able to return to the real world. That's just my wishful thinking for a decent ending.
Sugou attempted to rape Asuna and is punished with real death.
Kabaya is at fault for the death of hundreds of innocent players. And Kirito respects him.
Nice morals going on here <3
:/
As for the rest ... most boring, anti-climatic "finale" ever. It wasnīt even an awsome deus ex machina. It was just bullshit. No logic, no sense, no struggle. Kirito is given a cheat command and thatīs it. Wow.
It's pretty spectacular that fans of the novels deluded themselves into thinking this series was good.
Laughable villains that barely even reach carbon paper copy of a photocopy of a cardboard cutout of an actual villain.
What a joke. I don't know wtf makes them think this series is good. There is barely even a glimmer of a quality series here. They can't even say that, "the series is just rushed, trust me, it is better." The writing is puerile. No, it never got better. It only got worse and worse.
That said, what bothered me the most: Your girlfriend/internet wife just got released from a mental prison. You head to the hospital...on a bicycle. Pay for a cab you retard! Kind of a big deal, might want to get there a little faster.
I guess Asuna was moved out of that hospital to another place... feels like it.
Vilains are resilient, it's not uncommon for them to be alive just the time necessary for plot devices...
Oh by the way, what happens if someone tries to tickle your real body from liled to hard while you're in game?
Tries to inject something with a needle?
Does other feasts not killing you? like playing, or even torture?
t'is the only thing interresting (to me) I came up with.
I really don't care for zasheaddo and the yet another VR they hinted.
But I'm M enough to follow that shit if it goes on...
Depending on the distance, it might take longer to get there if you had to call and wait for the cab to show up.
Rather than using a bike to get there, my problem with that scene was the obviously sub-zero temperature since it was snowing, yet Kirito was biking with an open collar and no scarf. Unless it's truly so that the Japanese only catch a cold when a rain surprises them, the first thing Asuna needs to do upon waking up is to nurse feverish Kirito...
Next week's episode. The globbing World Seed.
If I was Kirito with Heathcliff privlidges, the first thing I would have done was lock out Sugou's log-out function, THEN dice him up.
Excalibur does jack shit.
It's hard for me to imagine what the story after this would be since it's pretty much a happy ending now.
Not to hard to imagine what upcoming doujinshis would be like though!
Which made it exactly the right kind of weapon for somebody like Sugou who could do jack shit by himself, except torture a girl and brag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
Hmm... HE'S Going to get laid by Asuna now. Aside from that... maybe he was a hacker this whole time with a hacked nerve gear. :P
Its hard to say the quality of Excalibur as Kirito set his level to 1 before handing him it anyway.
Wait, I thought ALO did not have player levels? And don't weapons require a certain skill level to wield?
Like I said "HACKED" :P
Not unless it refers to the level of skills or stats.
It's just a GM console command for beta testing or debugging, likely shorthand for reset everything: skills, stats, unlocked magic spells, health bonuses, etc.
It was one of thefewonly things in this episode that wasn't flat-out retarded. Alfheim was a direct copy of the SAO engine and all associated data, but with new assets, from an earlier model. Yui pointed out that it was using a earlier version of the overseer sub-routine.
Suguo the dumbass made himself god, but forgot to correctly purge or even curate the data. When he grabbed 300+ players for experimenting and Asuna, he dragged in a lot of other stuff he wouldn't want, but simply ignored it (like Kirito's broken stats, Kayaba's admin access account).
Thanks to figuring it out who Kayaba was pretending to be during the final hours of SAO, Kirito could correctly guess the access commands.
But why was Sugou able to hold Excalibur then? Does that mean that sword has no requirements?
Yea, it is almost like he rushed out in a hurry or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Regarding Sugou, I doubt there are requirements to swing around a sword like a wet noodle. He probably wouldn't have even done any damage if he did hit him.
Excalibur grants the chosen one its incredible powers, regardless of stats, is how we can interpret its story and adapt it here?Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Some weapons require a certain skill level to be equipped. We can only assume that Excalibur is one such weapon.
As for the level 1 thing, I intuitively thought it was a level of privilege - effectively purging Oberion of his rights as an admin.
Dunno. If I was a building a total virtual reality game, I would be very careful about unexplained invisible walls, such as an object you can't "equip" for some mysterious reason. It would have been a different thing if the sword had given a shock to too weak players or it had a wielder health drain effect that would need to be countered by the health regeneration of a higher level player. But simply unable to be equipped... That fits some usual third person rpg game played on a computer screen / TV, but hardly a game this immersive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
That was a typo. I meant that "we can only assume that Excalibur is NOT one such weapon"
HS - Episode 25
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aaaaaaaaaaand we're done.
Kirito wants his sisterīs ass so much, - is all I have to say about this last episode.
Glad weīre done here.
Thats a hot timeslot going free.
Anyone knows what's coming up to replace SAO ?
If I'm reading the moonphase schedule correctly, Tokyo MX's 土 / 24:00 slot will be filled by OneShura (Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru)Quote:
Originally Posted by Inazuma
A moe harem novel adaptation, also by A-1 Pictures (studio who did SAO).
He says he got his stats reset, but surely not all the way to level 1... He would be far too weak to be in the company of Alfheim veterans if that was the case. Plus he would need to begin fighting Aincrad from the beginning.
All in all I'm glad this is over. I wouldn't call this a good show, but for some bizarre reason I still needed to keep watching.
It was caused of Asuna's ass and Sugu's ass (Sister). :P