Naruto 317

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Originally Posted by docdan63

noo this is what is done at any forum where people freak out for no reason, like everyone is doing. I really don't understand why you guys are complaining, Kishimoto writes good stuff, he has and he's proven that he always will. Take it or leave it.

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If you want to be spoonfed stuff which you have convinced yourself is flawless, then go right ahead. But don't fucking tell us what we can and can't do. YOU ARE NOTHING. Naruto is GOOD. Kishi is GOOD. BUT HARDLY PERFECT YOU GODDAMN IMBECILE (I love that word).

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I like his recent stuff and i've been a naruto fan for a while now, so whatever.And please stop speculating on the Akatsuki, just let it play out guys. Let Kishimoto do his job and be patient.

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NOBODY CARES!
Oh and now you're apparently insinuating that we shouldn't even speculate about the series? Wow, you are one stupid son of a bitch. I wish you could grab the other guy's, whatever his name was (lavatory?), hand and jump from a tower together. We'd thank you.

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don't mean to piss anybody off, just a naruto fan without a brain.

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Fixed.

@Assertn: Oh, you thought of that too? Preach it brother!

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Originally Posted by rotary7eaven

freedom of speech. i fought for my rights so i can do what i please with my opinions (read very top my post and you'll find my reasoning).

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Thats kinda funny that your bringing up freedom of speech and opinion considering you were dissing us for discussing the negative points of the chapters so far.

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Originally Posted by rotary7eaven

i wonder who is more of an idiot, you or him. stop fucking bitching about the guy who made the manga a popular series that you still read and enjoy. if you have some constructive crictism then make your own god-damn manga. it's just a fucking manga and you guys think shit way too seriously. read it and enjoy it, it's not like you are paying for it.

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I think I speak for everyone when I say: Shut the fuck up. It's too bad your parents died after you were born.

Talking about the 3 tailed monster I had the feeling as I was reading the chapter that it wasnt a jinchurikii but that picture of his face resembled a lot to a human.
So now I have my doubts. But the fact that a turtle is actually on a pond worries me. If it was a jinchurikii (a ninja from a village) it should be like the other 2 talied in somewhat human place. Not out in the wilderness roaming free.


Offtopic: about the little war we have here I think that is time for it to end, do it on pms. This would be a perfect time for mods to spread out a bit of gotwoot justice and punish all the insults, disrespectful and harsh words of all the involved so that it is not repeated again on this thread. :D

Wow...two people more wrong than Mizuchi...both of them seem capable of rational thought though so they are worse. If we followed doc7eaven's advice (you're both the same to me..and both probably mut or something anyway) this thread would be nothing but hey Naruto *** is out...awesome chapter....wow Naruto is so cool I can't believe *******....Remember that time when *******. In other words boring and stupid.

Instead of that, I think we'll keep doing exactly what we're doing...expecting something good, commenting on whatever it is, and wondering out loud what we think/hope will happen in the future. It's made everyone else happy, and doc7eaven can just go fuck himself at ground zero while reading the Sai Arc, because I think everyone deserves to have some happiness.

Addendum, doc7eaven, you should come to the irc channel and talk to Arcness or Deadfire, they would probably agree with you and you could have great discussions with them. If you don't know it's #gotwoot on irc-2.gotwoot.net, (there's a webclient that you can use on the frontpage if you don't know how to work irc, but make sure you change your name if you use it)

@Edort never have a flame war on GW again...hahahahahhahahahahahahaha..< 3 hours later>......ha, You're funny man...

EDIT for the @Edort: Terra makes other posters obsolete...

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Originally Posted by Edort4

Offtopic: about the little war we have here I think that is time for it to end, do it on pms. This would be a perfect time for mods to spread out a bit of gotwoot justice and punish all the insults, disrespectful and harsh words of all the involved so that it is not repeated again on this thread. :D

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So riddled with hypocrisy that I'm about to get even more pissed off.

On a serious note though, I'm a poster first and an adminstrator second. If somebody deserves to get shot down by a Terra-post, then that person will get shot down by a Terra-post. Justice will come later when everyone has said theirs. Such as now. So yeah, carry on.

so yeah rather than trying to figure out what kinda of wind jutsu naruto will come up with. lets us hypothesize why it was a surprise to kakashi that naruto's attunement (or whatever you want to call it) is the wind element. Perhaps he feels it's a direct counter to the thunder element and has a cutting effect to counter chidori's cutting effect. If this idea was repeated, whatever. But I at least want to see more discussion about it instead of 3 pages of flaming.

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Originally Posted by chet_chetty

so yeah rather than trying to figure out what kinda of wind jutsu naruto will come up with. lets us hypothesize why it was a surprise to kakashi that naruto's attunement (or whatever you want to call it) is the wind element. Perhaps he feels it's a direct counter to the thunder element and has a cutting effect to counter chidori's cutting effect. If this idea was repeated, whatever. But I at least want to see more discussion about it instead of 3 pages of flaming.

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Kakashi wasn't surprised.

Well we could replace Kakashi's surprise w/ Asuma's surprise and continue discussing. This whole chapter about the wind element was described in terms of its cutting ability...hence Asuma's wind chakra manipulation in combination with the blades. If Kishi were to be predictable, Naruto may create a wind jutsu to counter Sasuke's shooting chidori from his body jutsu. Just like their last battle except this time they run at each other; sasuke with a thunder aura surrounding his body and naruto with a wind aura surrounding his body and boom! k k that was a lame joke. still i have a feeling Naruto will develop a wind jutsu that cuts. (did Sasuke not use Chidori with his new sword?)

And the premise exists that the wind jutsu is the strongest close/mid range elemental jutsu (I believe so far Sasuke has used Chidori as a close/mid range elemental jutsu)... thus good guy wins..or not (more plot devices where jutsus that shouldnt win do win tangent blah blah).

* Jadugar puts his protective gear on *


@ Samsonlonghair :

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Rotary7eaven, we long time Naruto fans have bought manga, bought DVDs, gotten our friends interested and spread the Naruto fandom for years. It's Kishimoto who hasn't been keeping up his end of the bargain. He just stopped caring for a while there. Still, we kept on reading for fifty chapters of shit.

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Ha ha ha.

It is all in your head. There is no bargain to begin with. Kishi does not owe you shit.


@ dragon608608 :

I like your five blind people theory. That is how I see it too. I totally believe in Kishi that he will prevail. Thick or thin, I am sticking with him because I am a loyal fan. He does sometime make no sense but I forgive him because he makes it all better when he brings out chapter like the current one.


@ Edort4 :

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Offtopic: about the little war we have here I think that is time for it to end, do it on pms. This would be a perfect time for mods to spread out a bit of gotwoot justice and punish all the insults, disrespectful and harsh words of all the involved so that it is not repeated again on this thread. :D

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NOOOOOOO

If it goes on private messages then we will not be able to see/enjoy it.
In addition, its all in the name of a healthy discussion and the reason this discussion/war has carried on so far is because a mod is involved in it. If it were one of us then this would have ended a long time ago. We cannot have some n00b slating one of our mods.


@ Terra :

OMG!

All the n00bs are ganging up on you. RUN!

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I hope you die a slow and painful death while your whole family simultaneously gets raped. And you are forced to watch. Moron.

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*sigh*

I though you have developed a much thicker skin than the rest of us to respond with something like this.

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freedom of speech does not equal "insulting people because they don't agree with you".

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I thought that is exactly what it meant.


@ rotary7eaven :

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i do not understand why guys complain about something that you have the power to do. granted i understand you dont like his work, yet you still read his work. why is this? but you still do and persist on complaining about it. why not just stop reading it period. OR better yet just tell kishimoto himself whenever you guys go to some anime/manga convention and bitch him out. i've watched the anime series of "Naruto" but due to fact there is fillers, i do not watch it (because mindless babbling that goes in it like terracosmo always does). so this is my last post in this sub-forum because i have seemed to upset a bunch of people who dont like to get their feelings hurt. i apologize to whomever i have upset and to winged dancer. good day and have fun.

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You have to understand one thing. We all love kishimoto but we all have different ways of showing it. Its not that we do not like his stuff, full stop. We do like most of it but sometimes he goes very far with his imagination without any explanation and it is frustrating for us fans to understand his way of doing things. Even though we bitch about his work but that is because we CARE.




BACK TO THE TOPIC :

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Originally Posted by AssertnFailure

I don't see enough evidence to lead either way as to whether the 3rd tail was a jinchuurriki or not. What I DID see however, was a semblance of a human face in the frame that showed deidara's clay fish underwater next to the demon.

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Yes, you are right. We didn’t get to see enough footage to decide weather it was a 3rd tail demon itself or a jinchuriki.


Great chapter. So much stuff happening at the same time. Finally, Asuma is getting his much promised screen time. I do not think that he will die protecting the “king”. We have seen time and time again that kishi saves everyone at the last minute. Chouji anyone?

Atatsuki members have speeded up their activities to gather all the tailed demons. I hope this 3rd/jinchuriki puts a good fight and is not like the last two-tailed.

We have seen any special characteristics from Tobi. Why was he allowed to join Atatsuki?

It's not about having thick skin or not, it's because I enjoy the venting. Also, why do you write that as if I care what you think? Why does EVERYBODY write things, assuming I care what they think? (Writing this here as to not derail thread further)

Furthermore, YOU are hardly one to talk, with 90% of your posts being bitching. Then again you are correct in that people probably expect more from me than you.

- Terra

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Originally Posted by Jadugar

We have seen any special characteristics from Tobi. Why was he allowed to join Atatsuki?

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He's a good boy.

Wow, something close to a flame war got started becaue I complained about Kishimoto not using kanji and/or stating that the main character isn't the sharpest tool in the shed?

I think I broke a new barrier.

Anyway....

Perhaps Naruto will make a shield of sorts, one that would allow him to cut through Sasuke's protective Chidori and back into his normal battle-range...

But then again it wouldn't be very Naruto-ish, would it?

It hadn't occured to me that the Tree-Tails could be a free demon, but I guess it's possible. The demons had to be free at the start, I guess... it's a pity we might never know how the rest of the jinchuuriki came to be. You know, who sealed them, why, and so forth.

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Originally Posted by docdan63

noo this is what is done at any forum where people freak out for no reason, like everyone is doing. I really don't understand why you guys are complaining, Kishimoto writes good stuff, he has and he's proven that he always will. Take it or leave it.

I like his recent stuff and i've been a naruto fan for a while now, so whatever.And please stop speculating on the Akatsuki, just let it play out guys. Let Kishimoto do his job and be patient.

don't mean to piss anybody off, just a naruto fan with a heart of an artist.

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What the fuck, are you a naruto filler writer? or are you a full time dick sucker for Kishi? We have the right to be critics about something we don't like, you tell us to take it or leave it, isn't the whole point for him to draw the best manga he can? In other words, taking in suggestions from the readers, might just be the smart thing to do. When you're finished down there, scream up towards Kishi's ears and tell him what I said.

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Originally Posted by AssertnFailure

Weird....it seems like everyone whose family is negatively wished upon was in the WTC :confused:

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ROFL GOLD. As Terra said, that...guy was expecting the pity card that he did not recieve. Another common thing would be when a person's mom was insulted, they'd all be dead, isn't it funny how these things work out?

Edit: Sorry guys, I forgot to give you guys kudos, this might be the best Naruto Manga, no actually Naruto discussion we've had in a while.

Also, whoever said that up there was right, why is Tobi in Akatsuki? Because he's banging Zetsu?

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Originally Posted by Winged Dancer

It hadn't occured to me that the Tree-Tails could be a free demon, but I guess it's possible. The demons had to be free at the start, I guess... it's a pity we might never know how the rest of the jinchuuriki came to be. You know, who sealed them, why, and so forth.

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Well, we do know that the demons are mystic creatures that appear every once in a while and haunt the living.

So it could quite possibly be, that if a Jinchuuriki dies and assuming, the demon dies with him, the demon is "reborn" after some years and then roams freely. This could even be expanded to a theory why they waited ~3 years. They had to wait for the last of the 9 demons to appear. Plain simple.

The three tails has a human face, so it's probably a jinchuuriki, not a free roaming demon

i agree with Assert saying it is a jinchuriki, after all it wouldn't have a suspicious shot like that next to its face if it wasn't right?



interesting theory on tobi, he doesn't seem very strong let alone strong enough to be in the akatsuki


I owe everyone on the forums an apology for the way i've ben flaming and acting out, sorry guys. Just needed to vent some past noob anger.

OK, I think everyone has gotten the point.
Different opinions on different subjects, we're all entitled to it, and to say.
Can everyone just leave it after this post and go back on topic.
I also think everyone missed samsonlonghair's post a bit back, near when it started with the Kishimoto thing.
anyway I'm really sick of seeing this shit.

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I like the idea of free roaming demons, hopefully there could be one like that, but I doubt it as I think people would want to seal it somehow, and I think it would be quite known that there is a free roaming demon, unless it's not so big, and it's nice and all, lol.

Dunno. I really do not see how the Sanbi's face resembles a human face.
For me its like Ichibi's face (Shukaku).

Either way. If Yondaime had to die to seal the Kyuubi... why didn't Chiyo died sealing Ichibi?

Akatsuki mentioned, before capturing Gaara, they had already captured 2 Jinchuuriki. With Yugito that sums 5 Jinchuuriki out of the 9 great demons. I kinda prefer if several of the great demons roam free, or like Elessar said... some were gone and would resurrect in "3 years"

A question. If we have 9 great demons... why have we never seen lesser demons?

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Originally Posted by RyougaZell

Either way. If Yondaime had to die to seal the Kyuubi... why didn't Chiyo died sealing Ichibi?

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Different sealing methods. A sacrifice was made just the same, however, being Gaara's mom. Don't forget the shukaku was already sealed within the ashes of a priest, so for Chiyo, it only required a transferrence of the possession.

Also maybe its harder to seal the nine-tails because it is suppose to be the strongest tailed demon.