Sword Art Online

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Originally Posted by Ryllharu

LOL at any weapon that needs to be plunged in the opponent's chest for upwards to 45 seconds to kill.

Doubly so when it is a lightsaber. There is no way a weapon that takes that long to kill could be practical in any way.

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Bullet time or not it's probably just a liberty the animation took so that it would look cooler, I highly doubt that the LN goes "And so Kirito stabbed *grunts name* while *grunt* screamed for 20 seconds and then perished". Seriously no one would ever write something like that other than perhaps that it felt like it took a long time to kill him.

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Originally Posted by DarthEnderX

So...Kirito goes undercover, uses his world famous character name. Brilliant.

I don't understand Sinon's attitude of expecting to meet Kirito in the finals. Why would she think a brand new player, using a weapon nobody uses would even get close to the finals?

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As I mentioned with the convertion system we don't really know a lot about it so it could be that he simply got to keep the name he had in ALO by default or he picked it himself. Besides other than the people in SAO it doesn't seem his name is that well known since they kept most things under wrap otherwise they'd have arrested those in that PK guild.

Sinon wants to kill Kirito and she makes it as clear as she can. I don't think she expects him to make it there but she wants to kill him and still pissed off so what else is there to say?

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Originally Posted by DarthEnderX

So...Kirito goes undercover, uses his world famous character name. Brilliant.

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Nobody should know Kirito was Kirito in SAO except people in SAO, Kikuoka and anyone he told, and anyone people from SAO who knew him told - which isn't a ton of people since he was a lone wolf. Probably like 20 people know he fought the final boss since half the raid group died.

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Originally Posted by DarthEnderX

So none of those guys that saw Death Gun kill that guy from the bar bothered to give a description of him to the cops? And if they did, nobody bothered to give that description to Kirito before he went into the game?

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Death Gun is just a crazy internet rumor. I don't think the cops are looking into those deaths at all, because they just looked like typical gamer OD type deaths. Probably only Kikuoka is really looking into it.

Man, sweet animation on the attack run. And lol at the lightsaber sound effects. I don't know why they had to animate him killing the guy for so long, though.

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Originally Posted by Ryllharu

It's 20 seconds when you time it out, but I feel the point stands.

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Okay, though the second point still applies. In a 1-vs-1 confrontation, the time it takes to kill the target is kind of irrelevant if the target can't do anything once stabbed.

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Originally Posted by DarthEnderX

Okay, though the second point still applies. In a 1-vs-1 confrontation, the time it takes to kill the target is kind of irrelevant if the target can't do anything once stabbed.

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Not all fights in this game are 1 vs 1. They might be in this tournament, but who knows. And I also doubt Kirito is the kind of dude who enjoys staring in the stabbed guy's eyes for 20 seconds every time. I'd guess a headshot kills more switfly in this game, based on Sinon's sniping, so maybe Kirito should aim for the head next time. If the blade melts bullets instantly, it ought to go through the simulated bone in a skull easily enough. It would look even more gruesome for the audience's benefit.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

Not all fights in this game are 1 vs 1.

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Granted. But I bet this story arc doesn't extend beyond this tournament, except for the show-down with Death Gun.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

And I also doubt Kirito is the kind of dude who enjoys staring in the stabbed guy's eyes for 20 seconds every time.

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He wasn't doing it for kicks. They showed the guys life bar slowly draining while the sword was in him. Kirito kept the sword in him because that's what it took to defeat him.

When Sinon was explaining the tournament, she said the 2 players from the block finals make it to the battle royale main event.

You could argue that since he was pierced with the lightsaber, it didn't kill him immediately, whereas you could just cut the guy in half.
I don't think it is really worth worrying about how long it takes to kill someone with it, though.

On one hand, you could argue whether the lightsaber required 20 seconds to kill someone, or if the stab would have already caused the "bleed out" effect and Kirito was merely maintaining his pose out of being freaked out in his first gun battle.

Or, as Moogle said, cutting may do more damage than stabbing in this game.

And to go along with the animation liberties taken, note that the bullet gets compressed then melts when hitting a beam saber.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

And to go along with the animation liberties taken, note that the bullet gets compressed then melts when hitting a beam saber.

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Because otherwise it would hardly melt at all, even if the blade had a too high temperature to wield it without the user himself getting roasted simply by being so near to it. If we assume the bullet travels at something like 800 m/s and the blade's diameter is a couple of centimeters, it means the bullet would spend a short time indeed inside the beam, a time best measured in microseconds. But if the bullet compresses, it means the blade has a body more or less solid. Like dense enough plasma or something. Or perhaps it's based on a force field, since we know they do already have those in the form of defense.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

Because otherwise it would hardly melt at all, even if the blade had a too high temperature to wield it without the user himself getting roasted simply by being so near to it. If we assume the bullet travels at something like 800 m/s and the blade's diameter is a couple of centimeters, it means the bullet would spend a short time indeed inside the beam, a time best measured in microseconds. But if the bullet compresses, it means the blade has a body more or less solid. Like dense enough plasma or something. Or perhaps it's based on a force field, since we know they do already have those in the form of defense.

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im pretty sure the author never gave a single thought to any of this.

"Light sabers are cool, you can block bullets with it, yay!"

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Originally Posted by MFauli

im pretty sure the author never gave a single thought to any of this.

"Light sabers are cool, you can block bullets with it, yay!"

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Nah, he totally knew about the lack of Leidenfrost effect. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles

When Sinon was explaining the tournament, she said the 2 players from the block finals make it to the battle royale main event.

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Oh that's right.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

Because otherwise it would hardly melt at all, even if the blade had a too high temperature to wield it without the user himself getting roasted simply by being so near to it. If we assume the bullet travels at something like 800 m/s and the blade's diameter is a couple of centimeters, it means the bullet would spend a short time indeed inside the beam, a time best measured in microseconds.

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Not to mention, that if the blade didn't have any physical force to it, even if the bullet did melt the instant is passed through the blade, you'd just end up with a glob of molten metal passing through the blade and hitting you in the face.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

im pretty sure the author never gave a single thought to any of this.

"Light sabers are cool, you can block bullets with it, yay!"

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100% this. It's pure Rule of Cool.

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Originally Posted by DE

Not to mention, that if the blade didn't have any physical force to it, even if the bullet did melt the instant is passed through the blade, you'd just end up with a glob of molten metal passing through the blade and hitting you in the face.

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Well it wouldn't be good enough to just melt the bullet, obviously. You'd need to vaporise it.

Even if you vaporize it, what about the hot bullet vapors that you'd be passing through? That could potentially burn you or even set you clothes on fire. In fact, wouldn't the lightsaber just be superheating the air. Actually, the hilt should basically be melting, too.
Good thing Star Wars is set in some other galaxy with super technology, so they can solve these problems.
I can't believe this video game doesn't explain these problems, though.

It all makes more sense than saying photons have mass.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

Or perhaps it's based on a force field, since we know they do already have those in the form of defense.

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Those would be "interference" fields since they cut the strength of beam weapons. They don't affect ballistic projectiles, which is why everyone's using those instead.

Actually, what makes most sense is that it is a video game...

I love you MasterOfMoogles.

Regarding heated vaporized bullet particles: That´s why good scifi uses the term "disintegration" whenever they want something to be completely dissolved.

HS - Episode 06

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Kirito's being weird. I don't think that counts as PTSD.. just being weird.

Lol, yeah, he went all emo, and it kinda spoiled all of the fun I might have had watching this tournament.


And it looks like the sword doesn't take a long time to kill someone, they were just being dramatic about it last week.

That said, he's clearly not as good as the intro leads you to believe, because he gets shot constantly.

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Originally Posted by DarthEnderX

That said, he's clearly not as good as the intro leads you to believe, because he gets shot constantly.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that until we see some more battles since he just walked in without much thought. Battles #2 through to #5 were all just a mix of luck and skill. He didn't put any thought into it at all about how he'd approach someone with a gun.