Chapter 261

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Originally posted by: Noonan
Actually if the translation on the last page or 2 was correct, then the Bijuu is confused and is thinking of itself as Gaara.

Either that or Gaara and the demon have merged and what they have captured is a hybrid spirit or one that WANTS to be Gaara - that raises some interesting possibilities.

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Maybe they extracted Gaara from Shukaku instead of vise versa and Shukaku is dead now, and they will end up putting Gaara inside of Deidara and then Gaara will take over his body and kill all of Akatsuki! And then Naruto will come along and not realize that Deidara is really Gaara and then kill him by mistake with an ultra super duper big Rasengan!

kidding of course.

hopefully the extraction fails...but like all seals they can be broken....so even if shukaku can be drawn out..maybe it, chooses to remain inside gaara's body..but in a free manner..to share and grow as gaara does..perhaps..i dunno....


i think it kinda lame that a demon can be torn from the host body so easly...if anything the bijuu should become free..and rain terror on teh villages once again..instead of bein resealed as soon as its removed...

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Originally posted by: weakest anbu
well i dont want this thread turns into some kishimoto drawing debate but I still gotta point out a few OBVIOUS things...

Before the anime, kishimoto used to draw all the characters alot thinner. The anime version however made all the characters wider and their faces more round shaped (especially their jaws). After the HUGE success of the anime, kishimoto decided to adapt to this "chubby" approach... slowly he starts to draw everyone bigger. The size changes applies to all characters is not just the kids growing. It wasnt that noticeable at first. but if you compare the end of the chuunin exam drawings to naruto rasengen lesson drawings you can clearly tell the difference.

he drew the same shit for 2 yrs then after the anime release for a few months he decided to adapt it. Coincidence of course... yes... I still like kishimoto but he did change his style to the anime version. About the "art work wasnt all that great" I hope you are joking ahhaha... you mean the subbers back then didnt clean up the raws as good as now or you just start watching the anime first then start readin the manga.

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i wouldnt be so quick to blame a lack of clean up. collect the american shonen jump novels. back then kishimotos art did suffer from a lack of good anatomy, and it wasnt just poses where anatomy may be difficult, but for really simple things like lop sided eyes. also his hatching was very unclean at times and could be an eye sore to me. and it doesnt really seem like the characters became that much chubbier. the only extreme difference is the size of the neck which in the past kishimot o drew very skinny, which could make the rest of the body seem slim. ... but yeah... i guess i should try to stay on topic ... this isnt the place for such a discussion...

i cant say that im too hyped about this whole rescue gaara mission now. kishimotos games of leading us on to think that a character is dead only to have them survive kind of destroys the since of danger in this situation. not only that ... i feel kinda cheated that last weeks chapter made since chapter 256 completely meaningless. the last five chapters were spent fighting lacikes that have no real weight in the story. in the end nothing happened, no one learned a lesson, no one got hurt. we just got to see naruto and gai show off, and the only thing that really happened was that the akatsuki bought some time. big freaking whoop. there could have other ways to stall time other then putting the story to a complete halt. im hoping now that someones actually made it to the cave that something real will happen now.

Well, next chapter should start it all really, with Gai's team at the entrance, and Kakashi's team should be there next chapter also, coz if they're going to have a chance inside this cave, they're all gunna need to be there.

How did team Gai get there before Naruto's team? Weren't they supposed to go to the sand to figure out what was going on and then trail Gaara? How exactly are they finding akatsuki's hideout? And why is Kakashi's dog with them?

Kakashi's dog has already explained to team Gai what had happened, and now he is leading them to the akatsuki, thats how they know where they're going.

gais team was also closer to the hideout since the cave is between the leaf and the sand

wow, one of the akatsuki EATS humans.. haha team gai/kakashi has no chance since their intentions are revealed.. its officially an s+ rank mission.. s+=suicide, i don't even think jiraiya could save them if they continue

another interesting thing that i'd like to point out about zetsu (and something that i think was overlooked in the anime translation, at least for DB anyway), is that he seems to have a split personality thing going. Not only does he have a white/dark sort of physical appearance, but a few times he appears to have a conversation with himself.

mm well thats nothing new..thinking back to that sound dude....

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Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
gaara's one of my top 3 favorite characters, but it would be extremely disappointing if sakura shows up and somehow heals him or something gay like that.....

actually, i thought sakura healing kankuro was lame enough as it was......

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Exactly i like Gaara but them saving him from the akatsuki would be pretty lame and very very predictable.

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Originally posted by: Noonan
Actually if the translation on the last page or 2 was correct, then the Bijuu is confused and is thinking of itself as Gaara.

Either that or Gaara and the demon have merged and what they have captured is a hybrid spirit or one that WANTS to be Gaara - that raises some interesting possibilities.

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I was under the very same impression. That Shukaku, the demon within Gaara, had somewhat grown accustomed to having Gaara as the host, similar to the Phoenix Force / Entity within Jean Grey. And, now it was losing it's sense of self had grown attached over the past three years, realizing that it was not just something trapped inside of Gaara but an actual part of the Sand shinobi.

Just a thought. But, word .. that whole scene reminded me of a lot of scenarios with the Phoenix.

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Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
another interesting thing that i'd like to point out about zetsu (and something that i think was overlooked in the anime translation, at least for DB anyway), is that he seems to have a split personality thing going. Not only does he have a white/dark sort of physical appearance, but a few times he appears to have a conversation with himself.

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I was going to point this out, but you beat me to it. He clearly has some issues. And, it's not just one extra personality. It seems there are three, maybe four total. As you pointed out, his face is shaded in two different colors; that alone may suggest at the two personalities. However, when he was preparing to eat the Sand nin, there appeared to be another voice - the venus fly trap crust around him, maybe? Something we'll have to look forward to. I think it adds more to him. I'm liking him more with the possibility of him being a serious schizo.

On a final note .. HE ATE THE GUY!? Damn.

It really looks like Garra's most likely going to die off. I really think that Gai's team is going to rush into the cave just to find that the huge demon thingy has been dispelled and the Atsuki have fled. Only thing that will remain will be Garra's dead corpse. Such a shame to, I was really hoping that later in the series we would get to see naruto and Garra both as kages whipping out their demons as they fought side by side. Well one things for sure the death of Garra will have one hell of an impact on naruto. If nothing else the whole naruto in a genjutsu showed us that he has a bitch load of emotional baggage that he's going to have to deal with aside from being hated by the village. I have mixed feelings about Garra's death, on one hand I like him alot and would love to see him remain a permenant figure in the series, on the other hand the series will get so much emotional depth if he's killed off.

I just hope we don't get some sort of sappy, "we need to defeat the atsuki to save his soul" crap that you would see in Yu Gi Oh.

ooo the soul thingy is more of bleach, but bleach isnt crappy.

Garra will LIVE! just my 10 cents prediction.

agree with chaos. I believe it's called fanservice.

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Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
It really looks like Garra's most likely going to die off. I really think that Gai's team is going to rush into the cave just to find that the huge demon thingy has been dispelled and the Atsuki have fled. Only thing that will remain will be Garra's dead corpse.

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If Akatsuki fled from the cave, I think it would be a cop-out way of saving Team Gai from being annihilated. But I don't see why they would flee when they have a jinchuuriki on the way to them. And they could probably defeat both teams easily, especially if Team Gai rushes in alone.

I think this is a very interesting point in the series. There are a lot of different theories, but nobody really seems to know what is going to happen next and nobody quite agrees on any one theory. There also seems to be a lot of directions that the story can take from here, and each week we are left with more questions instead of more answers.

i still think gaara's going to survive. BUT if he does die, then i think this'll have as much an impact on the storyline as haku's death way back when. and the reason why i say that is b/c when the haku arc ended, that was when naruto really formed that whole "that's my ninja way!" philosophy and that line has pretty much carried through for the rest of the series, no matter what happened. so if gaara dies, i dunno if he'd form another philosophy (the one now is just fine) but i would like to see a subtle change in his character-- perhaps a tad more somber than the loudmouth idiot he's always portrayed as.

actually, now that i've typed this out, i'm kinda hoping gaara does die and it does go in the direction i just predicted haha. it'd be nice to see naruto as a somewhat mature character, aside from just being a more efficient ninja.

nah no philosphy just go kyubi every time he sees atakuski because he'll be all like "YOU ONLY SEE US AS MONSTERS" blah blah ....yeah...

rememeber there are only 2 akatsuki members in the cave, so if team kakashi and team gai are both there they might have a chance at not losing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by: basey_69
rememeber there are only 2 akatsuki members in the cave, so if team kakashi and team gai are both there they might have a chance at not losing [img][/img]

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yep, i was just going to say that.......
however it sounds to me like they really do intend on sealing shukaku inside deidara.....this would be a perfect time for him to start busting out some crazy remote-detonation homing sand attacks on gai's team