Episode 31 aired!
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Episode 31 aired!
Arrrrrrrrrrrrhg, fucking ep ended right when the real shit was about to go down! >_<
I always wonder why people are willing to explain how their technique works in the middle of the battle in Shonen anime. There has to be a balance between explaining techniques or mechanics to the audience while retaining a realistic situation in the battle. Wouldn't it make sense for characters to talk about their abilities and techniques after the battle (or if the characters are going to explain their technique, why not just do a monologue with their thoughts)?
But, nonetheless, great episode!
Funniest censorship ever, apparently when you lose an arm sparkles come out.
Little girls are made of sugar, spice, and everything nice. Psychotic murderous clowns should at least be made of sparkles.
I have to do it all the time when gamemastering D&D because my players are too stupid to figure it out otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by enkoujin
Nah, that's like, a Nen force field holding in the blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Yup, somehow I feel like Hisoka is going to tell us he learnt how to doppelgang himself in the spur of the moment... and that the one cut is his double, explaining the sparkle that is Nen, you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
That's what I forced myself to think, in order to avoid censoring ruining this show in my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
At least they didn't cut out most of the Kastro fight like the original anime. Sure it would've been better to see lots of blood, but no seeing any is the price to pay to actually animate the fight, which is full of gore in the manga.
Episode 32 aired!
FINALLY, an episode superior to its counterpart in the original hxh tv series! And what an episode this was. I think I'm a little gay for Hisoka. For those of us who've seen the original series and OVAs but haven't read the manga, this episode clarifies a number of things and just makes the intricacies of a nen fight so much clearer. For example, and without spoiling, I suspect that Kastro is either self taught in nen, or had a shitty teacher, based on his inability to discern even the smallest bit of information about hisoka's abilities and fighting methods (beyond the fact that he was using some kind of nen).
It was a jolly good episode otherwise, but the bloody lengthy explanation and flashback to the fight were annoying. In the end its only purpose was to suddenly and without any solid reason explain Hisoka's techniques. That should have been left to a later time when Gon and Killua understand them. Besides, who cares about Kastro anymore, including the tiniest specifics of his defeat? Machi could have talked about the audience when she mused Hisoka will have forgotten Kastro's face by tomorrow.
Funny how Hisoka's nen manipulation is similar to Sasori's/Kankuro's
And that girl's technique reminds me of Kakuzu's jutsus.
I was also annoyed at the in-ep recap and lengthy explanation for a fight that wasn't that important.
Hm, as someone who watched the old anime, even though the action is good, it´s getting kinda boring now. Having to wait a week for stuff you already saw, well ...
Anyway, I thought that Kastro not noticing Hisoka´s aura strings was a bit unbelievable.. You´d think for some who mastered the double technique, he´d know the very basics of Gyo, aka putting Nen into your eyes to see the aura of Nen techniques. Yeah, yeah, Hisoka explained how Kastro was so focused on his fancy double technique that he deleted the basics from his memory, but ... it made Kastro look too much of a fool imo. Less explanation would have been better, like "Hisoka´s gruesome magic tricks shook Kastro off and made him forget to use Gyo", instead of this dumb "he forgot about Gyo due to the double training".
Yeah, but let´s not confuse which came first ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by David75
I don't think "showing the audience that what happened was completely thought out and not just a bunch of bullshit" qualifies as "without any solid reason".Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Then what was your splendid reason? The other Phantom Troupe member, who is a master of nen use as well, needs to go through Hisoka's fight in excruciating detail as if it was something novel to her? She fricking knew everything that happened from the beginning, so why on Earth was it necessary to make it look like she thought it all through in Hisoka's company? It's poor story telling, that's all. It's as if the audience was sitting in that same room, listening to a lecture, and not a meeting of Hisoka and Machi alone. It made about as much sense as the infuriating studio laughter that ruins sitcoms. But unfortunately it's still a part of the shounen textbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
A better way would have been to leave the explanations to later, until Gon and Killua need to figure it out. That way, when they are still struggling to get it, it would feel natural to explain it to the audience as well.
I just told you. It's for the benefit of the audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Sorry you think it's bad storytelling, but really, there's no such thing as "good exposition", because there's no such thing as a seamless way to deliver a large complicated chunk of information to a casual, invisible observer(the audience) without it coming off as awkward.
But it's still completely necessary for the audience to know what the fuck happened.
Right, because that's always the best time for a giant fucking infodump. Right in the middle of a fight so it completely ruins the pacing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
If that was the only other choice, then it's true it would ruin the pacing of the fight and it would be even worse than using the second half of the episode to flashback the first half. But possibly there could have been other ways, such as Wing explaining it to Gon and Killua when they start their formal training under him. Then it would have been a literal lecture in every sense of the word, and nobody could blame the show for making it look like a lecture to the audience as well.
Hurm. I think you're just nitpicking.
Episode 33 aired!
They certainly use Zushi to the max to show what kind of monsters Gon and Killua are compared to normal mortals. It was good to see Killua show a killer's face again, in any case.
I was hoping Killua would just kill him during their match.
But the villain pussed out instead.
He never felt him coming and all of a sudden his hallucinating his own gory death, then Kilua lets him out in a very unconfortable position where he can be killed any second just like he just hallucinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
I guess the guy knows he doesn't stand a chance against Kill.
It also shows how much of a monster Killua will become if only basic training in Nen/ten/ren and the likes makes him that strong, that quick.
I'd watch this for the Hunterpedia alone. That shit's kawaii...
Episode 34 aired!
This is how the new season can shine, the atmosphere is obviously inferior to the original anime because this is being marketed to kids but with Madhouse in charge every fighting scene has the potential to be fucking glorious.
I've been impressed by the last few episodes, handled very nicely.
I can't recall exactly how these were dealt with in the orignal - think I'll need to rewatch them, so far I think the last episode was handled better in the new series.
Just so I have an idea; how far, exactly, did the old series go in broadcast?
Google is your best friend:
*SPOILER ALERT*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...unter_episodes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...r_OVA_episodes
Up until the end of the Greed Island arc.
No episode this week?
Nope. .
fml
was really looking forward to the next episode.
Hoping for a recap next sunday
trolol
Episode 35 aired!
SCHWING!
God DAMN it that was great!
I didn't think they'd actually start the battle this episode, but fuck it they did!
Awesome Nen explanations and sweet fighting in the same episode. Can't ask for more than that.
That weird tone they used once the fight started made it seem really ominous and tense.
That opening fight sequence between Hisoka and Gon was fucking awesome.
That was the best battle animation I´ve ever seen in a shounen-anime. Wow. Such a long, detail-rich fighting scene, without any interruptions, without any filler-animations. I´d say the one shounen-fight that is equally that great was Rock Lee vs Kimimaro.
The Specialist made the Nen explanations fall somewhat flat, though. If the Specialist is "something" not belonging to the other major categories, how can you say it's the farthest away from the Enhancer? Either it should be something more defined, not just a random junk pile for every weirder than usual power needed by the plot or it should be an unknown category and the whole diagram shouldn't be presented in such a solid form, because it's clearly not.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
Anyway, Gon vs Hisoka was great, and I was also positively surprised it already started in this episode. Gon managing to land the hit also didn't seem unrealistic - due to Hisoka assuming such a handicap of not moving an inch - which is a very important detail.
Like Killua said, Hisoka still doesn't take Gon seriously.
He likes that Gon progresses well and fast, so he'll probably just beat him right and wait for a better match much later when Gon matures and his ripe to his tastes.
Also, beetween the two, there's no hatred, just pure will to have a good fight. I wonder if the story involves such things later, to spice up the fights.
I´d say Enhancer and Specialist are opposite in that the former is kinda the most simple Nen skill, while the latter requires lots of special circumstances, detail, thought, etc.. I mean, really, as an enhancer all you do is make "things" stronger, be it objects or your own body. As a specialist, I dunno, you´re free to do anything, but you have to come up with something yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
That was the fucking SHIT right there! I was not at all expecting them to actually fight in this ep, but damn was i pleasantly surprised!
I was blown away by the animation in this episode! God, I LOVE Madhouse! If only BONES and Madhouse did a collaboration together, it would be the best anime ever.
IMO, I think the specialist category is a convenient plot device the mangaka (Togashi) slotted in to open up more possibilities for future characters with unique abilities. It's also a smart way to cover your tracks because if he didn't, it would be just bad storytelling if the protagonists encountered a new type of enemy and their enemy will be explaining this specialist stuff all of a sudden. Additionally, it would make Wing and the Hunter organization look like a bunch of incompetent chumps if they can't classify their own/all powers in this universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
I'm not too sure about this, you guys, but I'm really enjoying these naked and disturbingly erotic Hisoka scenes. They're extremely hilarious and I simply can't get enough of it.
Specialist is still a class of its own, but the range of abilities within its user base is so diverse that they can't pin point it like with the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Basically what they're saying is that it will be hard for an enhancer to acquire any skills outside of what's to be expected from the available classes. It's great for close ranged battles but it's also predictable.
Regarding the classification, maybe there are several versions running in the Hunter organisation and around the world.
After all, this is important material regarding powerful people that either enforce law... or do the countrary.
It would be no suprise if Wing only had knowledge of a simplified version. He could even know more but only mention that one.
He also maybe did adapt to his audience abilities... and it's also easier on people watching the show.
Wing probably also has his own limits in credentials and even skills/knowledge.
Now regarding classifications, you guys know the one by D. Mendeleďev for the elements?
It was incomplete, but was good enough for quite a long time and even had empty cells for elements we'd discover years later.
Nowadays, it might start becoming a tad obsolete... but it still is a great tool/theory to start with for begginers.
Pretty much like the explanation we had...
We already have diverse classes: the five defined ones. Then we suddenly have a sixth class that's apparently a container for another set of diverse classes... Surely some of the Specialist skills are closer to one of the other five classes than the others. If they weren't, they wouldn't be diverse. For them to really be the sixth major class, they would need to be pretty similar to each other, and in that case they ought to have a decent, descriptive name. Or the Hunter agent should have just admitted Hunters don't know enough of the users and skills of the sixth class to name it properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Without spoiling, specialist users have abilities that can't be described by any of the other nen groups, at least without stretching things. You'll see that in general, people with nen abilities have abilities that are very obviously placeable in one group or another without having to go through hoops in order to place them there. So it's what enkoujin said, it's just a container for those abilities which aren't described by the other types, but the author wants to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Also, the placement makes sense if you look at it from the specialist users point of reference, and the implications that the placement makes. A specialist user will have a very hard time using enhancement nen, a hard time using emission and transmission, an easy time using manipulation and conjuration, while having the easiest time using nen from their own nen-type. If this is true for everyone who has abilities that cannot be explained by the other five categories of nen, then this is THE reason for creating the specialist group and placing it in relation to the others.
If that's the case, then why a totally vague name like a Specialist? Everybody who specialized in something is a specialist. It means absolutely nothing. If there're enough common traits among them to genuinely group them together into the sixth class and say they are at a uniform distance from the other five classes, then for sure they deserve a descriptive name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
Otherwise it's just a pile of junk and there's no claiming they are equally difficult for the Nen users of other classes.
The diagram really only exists to show the difficulty in using abilities in relation to your preferred type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
For whatever reason the "abilities that don't fall into other categories" are extremely difficult for Enhancers to use, and for whatever reason, Specialists find Enhancement very difficult to use.
Is it unlikely that all of those Misc. powers would just so happen to be opposed to Enhancement? Yes. But that's the way it is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
The grouping together of those abilities doesn't come because of common traits among them, but because the abilities are not classifiable within the other groups, it's a catch-all. Or a "pile of junk" as you put it. They're hatsu, just not hatsu that can be classified by the other five nen categories. Furthermore, the abilities can differ greatly from each other. A person whose nen allowed him to use abilities you might classify as "absorption" needs to exist side by side in the same group with someone whose abilities you might identify as "necromancy". This of course assuming that neither of the abilities falls into any of the other classes. That "need to exist in the same group" is addressed in the second paragraph below. So the name of the category has to reflect that. Specialization might not have been the name you chose, but it works.
Now, without knowing more about specialist users you can't really place them in that diagram properly, but IF the specialist group is already placed in that diagram, then you can make the inference that specialist users share that common ability distribution. If that inference proves to be true, then that's all the explanation that's required.
Episode 36 aired!
Can we just have about 100 straight episodes of Gon and Hisoka fighting each other? Thanks.
Man, Hisoka is one pervy weirdo lol
The lolz man, the lolz! Hisoka really *cock*ed back on those punches xD. It's too bad this is over but if things keep up, there's even greater goodness to come.
They, like, completely changed the appearance of the Author Avatar in this episode from the one in the previous series.
You know, I reeeeally don´t get why HXH never became the most popular shounen series ... which it deserves/deserved to become. Why are Naruto or One Piece more popular? Makes no sense to me. HXH is shounen done right and done in perfection.
Yaoi shotacon maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Or the pace, I think I remember the original is a tad slow paced.
Also, it's not very flashy with attack names and lights coming from everywhere with power over 9000.
Yeah. HxH has basically no girls except one arc wonders. That must have also mattered in the popularity contest. HxH has interesting plots & world, good action & fights, worthy adversaries, quite solid development, but that only goes so far. If you want to aim for the top spot, you need to cover all the major bases. However, even if this isn't the top series, it's still better the mangaka rather did what he wanted and not calculated everything to artificially boost the popularity (like Bakuman teaches).Quote:
Originally Posted by David75
Because Ninjas and Pirates are more interesting concepts to base a series around that Hunters, which is basically just a catch-all for "guys with powers".Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
My heart sunk a little while reading that because I know just how true it is. *shakes head*Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
No girls in a shounen manga is that bad for its popularity? Really? Also, fuck that, Kurapika is all the girl HXH needs :-o
Because the art is shit and it goes on hiatus every few weeks. Eventually people just lost interest.
We're evaluating the legal repercussions of the previous thread (which is no longer visible) at the moment. In the meanwhile, I'll ask that no links to unlicensed distribution sources (eg fansubs, rips) be linked in this thread until further notice.
Episode/plot discussion can go on as usual. When someone is first to post about a new episode, a little "Episode XX discussion below" warning may help other users avoid spoilers and keep things tidy.
Thanks guys.
HxH Japanese Air Time: Sunday 10:55AM (GMT+9)
You guys get some kind of C&D or something? Why's this series getting singled out?
No idea why. I don't have the full details, so we're still waiting on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
Anyway, episode 37's aired! :p
I always like it when super-powered kids act as kids despite the superpowers. This episode was adorable xD. And um...Ging's the ultimate pimp and deadbeat dad.
I liked how Togashi foreshadowed Gon's mother in regards to that she and Ging separated... which leaves some room for her to come back in the future if needed.
Did anyone feel here that Mito had some romantic feelings for Ging?
I'd like to say no, but I can't remember seeing an anime where a girl would make a face like that at a boy without there being romantic feelings. I doesn't even matter if the girl is 3 or 30. At the very least, it usually seems to indicate the development of romantic feelings. However, presently, she seems to just think of him as a horrible human being. Those romantic feelings didn't get to develop.
That's possible. He left early enough so that Mito wouldn't start to regard him equal to a sibling but not so early that he wouldn't have impressed her already. I wonder how many men she has even met after Ging - if any. He might be her only solid image of a man.Quote:
Originally Posted by enkoujin
Don't shit all over my shounen with romantic innuendo. They were cousins and friends, that's it.
Ep 38 is out.
Looks like Gon's dad is pretty badass :P
I've removed the links in the old thread, then combined everything together so we have our thread back again. The sender of the DMCA insists that the linking of the materials they've referred to are infringements of intellectual property.. and we've decided not to push it at this point.
If anybody wants more information about how to watch HxH, shoot someone a PM. I'm sure we've got enough nice people here to help.
And a thankyou to everybody who had provided links every week in the past! :)
Exactly what i asked Kraco to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I propose Bill becomes an admin and Kraco gets demoted to mod.
You poor peasant. It's precisely because I'm an admin and Bill is a mod that he does the work and I merely pat his back afterwards to commend the good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Running a forum isn't like Hunter X Hunter where the one with the fastest and strongest punch stands at the top.
Episode 39 is out!
I wonder how easy it's to hire guys for a job with the introduction: "There's a bunch of possibly insanely strong people with strange abilities you wouldn't be able to understand in a room and we want you to rush in armed with obsolete weapons to try to kill them. These people were chosen based on the expectation normal humans, such as you guys, wouldn't stand a chance against them, but we just have to make sure. So, do your best, even though if everything goes well, you'll all be corpses."
Kurapika's hatred gives his character a nice, focused vibe, even though it also tends to make him lose his cool.
They might be Nen created homunculus.
Also, dat long haired Kurapika.
That's called "Every supervillain's henchmen ever." And one can only assume it's such a popular profession because it must be lucrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
And now, the Kurapica goodness begins! This is the beginning of the very lengthy part of the series that catapults HxH to the very top of the shonen heap. I've been content to watch this weekly with no real anticipation for the following week but I think from this point forward I'll be getting blue balls waiting for Sundays to come around.
I suspect the censorship is going to kill it though, the York Shin arc is pretty fucking gruesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
I'm probably the minority but I just don't care much for Kurapica's story. I guess it's because I'm too use to it being focused on Gon, that the switch just makes me lose interest.
Kurapica's always been an interesting character to me because of that boiling rage underneath his cool exterior. This aspect of his gets focused on and developed in a very dark way. Not to mention, a number of the best fights in the series, and imo the single best fight in the previous tv series and OVAs belongs to Kurapica. You'll come around I'm sure xD. And if you don't, there'll be plenty of Gon to see as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathnightwc3
Pretty easy if there's an excess human labour supply and a recession is taking place... if not that, there's always the possibility of advance payment and insurance for these guys so that their families or friends can access it afterwards if the employee could not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
You do know that, despite how feminine he looks, Kurapica's a guy, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
It's entirely possible that those henchmen just weren't told about the superpowers those hunter possess. Knowledge of the existence of nen might be more extensive in the underground, but I imagine it's not difficult to find skilled fighters who don't know about nen. If they're willing to kill for profit, then you have your dupes.
Oh he knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by enkoujin
There is a reason Kurapica is both loved and hated. He is Sasuke. Both have eyes that turn red for a power up. Both their clan has been killed and both seek revenge. There are some key differences though that make Kurapica more lovable. Kurapica is friendly and polite to people. He see's Gon and Killua as friends rather then rivals that needs to be kept at an arms length or competed with. He actually act toward the goal of getting revenge, rather then talk about it but never actually do anything. And he plan, choose and train to gain his abilitys. Only time Sasuke trained hard was when he learned Chidori. Other then that he has always relied on hax eye power. He need to brood so he don't have time to train.
Or IS he...Quote:
Originally Posted by enkoujin
Exactly. A Mary Sue character is far easier to like when they aren't also a total dickbag.Quote:
Originally Posted by TwisT
Episode 40 is out!
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Props to Killua who changes his clothes every 12 episodes - that guy really knows how to be a hipster.
Episode 41 is out!
Awww yeah! The Phantom Troupe at last!
anyone else notice the PUU mini doll on the boss's phone/keychain.
Oh the coming goodness! Is it weird that I feel giddy like a schoolgirl?
Ep 42 is out!
The shit is going down next week! I can only hope they don't screw it up with the censoring..
Funny to see that Leorio only understands Ren so far.
Even though I still remember the outline of the story from the previous anime, it feels new to me, because I forgot só much of it.
Leorio never changes. But at least he knows how to save money and knows better than to try to swindle the pro swindlers.
You could always look it up on Uoogre!Quote:
Originally Posted by Harima Kenji
I already have a semi out of anticipation for Kurapika's next battle.
Episode 43 is out!
Okay THAT wasn't censored.
Aye.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnder
We're back to what we had in the hunter selection, but with a vengeance :D
A little bloodbath and some cleaning for the feast that's to come?
That was like watching a horror movie. Shizuku is so dark I <3 her dearly. And Udon smacking the shit out that guy and ruining his neck was equally horrific god I love it! I don't remember the corresponding episode in the earlier series being quite this awesome. Good job Madhouse.