Next episode is the 23rd of April. There has been a day countdown on TV for new episodes of hero's so people knnow when it is coming back. Wish it was the 16th though, I would be very happy =)
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Next episode is the 23rd of April. There has been a day countdown on TV for new episodes of hero's so people knnow when it is coming back. Wish it was the 16th though, I would be very happy =)
SHITE!.. :( Thanks anyway.
Just caught up to this, and although it had a slow start which I didn't like it's gotten me interested now.
Well, if people with powers have been around for over 15 years, I'm sure there is alot more in that age gap, how old do you think the woman with the hearing thing that Sylar killed would be? The Petelli's mum more than likely has some kind of power, as it seems to be hereditary with what we've seen so far.
Sylar is fucken awesome, his character is well done, I hope he gets a shit load more powers, espcially Clare's, would make him really hard to defeat then.
Out of curiousity, has anyone been following the comics that come out online weekly? There was this one major revelation that came out the past couple of weeks which I was surprised that it hasn't made a reference to in the actual TV series yet.
Does it air on Sunday in Canada?
NO MANGA SPOILERS :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Honoko
lol... yeah. Hardly anyone I know who follows the show follows the comics so I've been dying to blurt it out to somebody. Guess I'll just have to endure a bit longer :p
Holy Shit!!! I just checked out what Honoko was talking about, that was a pretty big surprise. I hope they explain it in the actual show but I doubt they'd be able to get away with not doing so.
Um.... time paradox what? At least it's just a one-week wait =P I'm too hung up on the last scene to even talk about the rest of the episode.
Ah finally, Heroes is back and it was awesome. It seems like Linderman might really be at the center of everything like many have thought. But one thing is somewhat odd, if he's part of HRG's former group then who is it that's opposing him? Or is anyone opposing him at all?
One thing I'm a little dissappointed at is the fact that this episode has placed the plot onto a pretty canned track. We have an evil guy with good intentions trying to do evil things to bring about good results, with a corrupted puppet who thinks he's doing the right thing and a bunch of underdogs trying to stop his nefarious plan. It's still cool, but from the preview the plot could concieveably start rolling along a well beaten path in the next few episodes (please let me be wrong!). I'd say the best hope for unpredictability now is the wildcard Syler and his actions, will he join a side or stay on his little path of destruction.
@ Honoko: Thanks for the tip, reading the comics made it even better since I got some of the nuances of the situation that weren't specifically mentioned in the episode. (Not to be mentioned here for fear the spoiler rule extends to English TV as well)
My hope is that future Hiro is the upset factor Linderman wasn't counting on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukimura
You're welcome :DQuote:
Thanks for the tip, reading the comics made it even better since I got some of the nuances of the situation that weren't specifically mentioned in the episode. (Not to be mentioned here for fear the spoiler rule extends to English TV as well)
I want to know what mama Patrelli's power is. Sylar vs Peter was a little dissapointing because I was hoping Peter would deflect the glass and just smack Sylar around with telekenesis.
I thought that would have gone down a little differently. I figured Peter would have ... you know ... not have turned around and stood there like an idiot. And I also figured he would sneak in Sylar's direction, and Sylar would hear him with the recently-acquired super-hearing. And then Peter would listen to Sylar's thoughts and fly to avoid the flying-glass attack, maybe use the telekinesis to fake footsteps...
At least, that's how I would have liked to see it go down. Might have been hard to depict with him invisible and whatnot though. Still, I felt that the Peter/Sylar confrontation as designed was ... sort of anti-climactic. Sylar gets knocked out but Suresh doesn't cap him in the head or stab him or anything?
I couldn't agree more with you here. Honestly how Peter went down boggled my mind considering Sylar was holding up the glass for more then enough time for peter to react instead of being facing the opposite direction entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by complich8
Overall it was a good episode but they certainly need to give us a few major plot twists to make the long break worthwhile.
I can't believe Mr. Isaac dies. What did he mean by he found the way to defeat Sylar?
After obsessively reading other forums and whatnot, my guess is that Mama Petrelli's superpower is some kind of clairvoyance. Here's the reasoning-- at some point Peter Petrelli was able to "know" what Nathan was up to via dreaming or whatever, right? That's not quite Issac's power nor was it anything like digging up the past the Indian boy demonstrated with Mohinder. Peter the power sponge must've gotten that ability from somewhere and the only person he's in close proximity with regularly would be his mother. This would also explain how the mom "knew" what Clare's been up to, or how she "knew" what her boys were doing. The way she speaks, it seems to imply a more intimate knowledge than having her own spy network or something.
I'm guessing that's something he drew in his notebook.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilphatboi88
I was also extremely disappointed by the Peter/Sylar fight. I'd think that killing Sylar is much more important for Mohinder than taking Peter's body to his family. Ah well. Peter hasn't had much time to develop his powers yet. Hopefully the next time he meets Sylar, he'll be more battle-ready.
Was anyone else surprised by the EMP? It seems HRG knows more about Ted than we thought.
Linderman's talk of his 'younger days' makes me think that him and Mama Patrelli were part of some sort of x-men type organization trying to save the world. I think in upcoming episodes, Mama Patrelli will be a force to be reckoned with. It's still a mystery how she knows the Haitian though. I'd really love to see some backstory on her.
But enough about backstory, because next week is THE FUTURE! Future Hiro is so awesome. Future Hiro + Present Hiro = Beyond Awesome. After five years, everyone will have had sufficient time to develop their powers, and hopefully we'll get to see some of the potential that all of our confused protagonists have.
Any theories on what Linderman wants Micah for?
@Honoko: That seems like a good theory. Something like when he was 'with' Simone's dad before he passed away?
My guess is that he's gonna use Micah to rig the elections.Quote:
Originally Posted by KitKat
Yes! Good example. Thanks for that.Quote:
That seems like a good theory. Something like when he was 'with' Simone's dad before he passed away?
I suggest reading Heroes Novel Chapter 29: War Buddies Part 6 (In fact I recommend reading all of War Buddies while you're at it, you probably won't get that stuff in the show and it does make things more understandable).Quote:
Originally Posted by KitKat
Chapter 29 + Lindermans comment when asking for Micah ~ 'I had a plan in place but it seems that it has gone awry' = One blatant and very reasonable conclusion.
ya i got that impression too. im thinking, linderman, mama patrelli, and hiro's dad were all involved. Its quite possible that they started The Company to find and recruit others like them, but mama patrelli went her own way for whatever reason, and the company started targetting heroes instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by KitKat
OMG OMG OMG!!!!! I loved this episode. :D I just loved the teamwork (Parkman, Ted and Mr. Bennet ) !!!!!!!!!!!! That was awesome!!!! I was laughing when Mr. Bennet was giving out the instructions and Ted had no idea what he was talking about.
I was also disappointed with the fight between Sylar and Peter. Could have been much better.
Where did DL go though? He just disappeared randomly. And, when Nikki/Jessica was in the car and this girl comes with black hair. Was that the mimic girl?
Cant wait for next episode!!!! 6 more days to go!!!!!!!!
yes that was the mimic girl....did you somehow miss the part where she transforms like 3 sec before? :p
OhhhhhhhhhQuote:
Originally Posted by Assassin
I just got it!!!!!! I didn't get the part she transformed.... I thought it was like a random artistic movie making moment...... Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!! This cleared up a lot of things!!!!!!!!!!
I am wondering more about the timeline changes. I was happy to see all the timelimes at the end of the ep. I think that they are going to do a Trunks DBZ thing where he goes back in time and then the timeline splits and creates a new one. Will be nice to see how they throw that together. Cool that Claire was able to help Peter, but I thought that Peter could only use powers of others if he thought about them and remembered them, how can he us a powe when he is knocked out? -dg-
I don't know, I think there's probably something like "active" and "pasive" powers. I'm sure he doesn't need to be conscious for his body to heal itself. Also, being close to Claire probably helped too.
It wasn't Claire that saved him, really. I think if anyone removed the glass, he would have regenerated. Same thing happened with Claire when she first died from the giant piece of wood in the back of her head.
Well she was in the same situation that he was, so she knew how to help. I just think that the whole thing was kinda lame. Just a plot device to get him back to the house and have Claire help "save the world". -dg-Quote:
Originally Posted by darkmetal505
Ok. This must be in my opinion one of the best episodes for the following reasons:
1. Action
2. Most of the heroes were in a single episode.
3. FULL OF SUPRISES!
Now, I really want to know what happened in the future that so many "heroes" died. (is this what Honoko and Yuki were talking about?) And Sylar is so freaky. He has so many powers now.... And, what happened to the company?
It is interesting that this episode became like X-Men.
Nope, not what I was talking about. But this is the ep that forces me to concede what an AMAZING villain Sylar is. That whole Nathan thing with Claire was BRILLIANT!
And how many of you just wanted to see that whole fire/ice battle?! Curse you, Mohinder for keeping the door close! Sacrifice your worthless life for eye candy, dammit!
And future Hiro's demise T_T Not to my favorite character, no! DAMN you, Parkman!
(Goes off to recover before contributing to this discussion....)
WTF. I was skeptical at first because Issac painted Peter blowing up, so I found the whole Sylar = bomb story to be fruity. Apparently Issac had seen young Hiro go forward in time and then return again to fix things.
There were some pretty freaky twists in the future. Terroist Hiro with awesome sword action = saweet.
Amazing beyond all imagination, the Syler thing was perfect, especially since he was acting like Nathan has shown he'd probably act. And all the references...Candice, DL, etc...seems the people that HRG was hiding were being found...by Syler. And that Blue/Red battle must have been epic, I hope we see them go at it again in the season finale, but then Hiro can stop time and stab Syler in the chest or something.
Or maybe...that future is going to come to pass anyway and next season will be set in it!!!!!! That would be sad, but also awesome.
Addendum...Peter's Neo coat was Sweeeeeeeet.
It's wierd that Peter has a scar though... I thought he got the scar because he had never met Claire, but in that timeline he should have... So I wonder what happened to have caused an injury that even Claire's powers can't heal properly.
Still, I don't think future or present Hiro knows about Peter being the actual cause of the explosion, so what we are seeing in the future (except for the Sylar portion) can still become true, even if Sylar were to be stopped and killed. It also shows that Peter does explode, even with him knowing it would happen... he wasn't able to stop it, so I wonder what new meassures can be taken so that he doesn't.
There was something called the Linderman Act if not mistaken, I wonder what it was about... I didn't hear well. I liked the Nikki/Peter pairing, I hope it happens... Peter was pretty badass in the future, I always thought he was a mama's boy and looked like a pansy, but with a bit of facial hair and the scar he actually looked worth something.
Well the explosion is either going to be caused by Sylar killing ted, Peter taking his power, or Ted being injured to the point of his explosion. I think I have an idea on what's going to happen, but as I've noticed with this show, it doesn't do what I want(Expect for Peter getting fire powers).
So it's going to be really exciting when it actually happens(if at all).
i think its kinda like trunks/future trunks, I don't think Future peter even met past Claire, cause if he did, future sylar should be dead after future hiro stabbed past sylar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
Anyway, great freaking ep, felt like a mix between the matrix and x-men.
The link provided in this post probably contains spoilers from the comic book, so be really careful with what you read
If you want to try to twist your heads around all the timelines both Hiros messed around with and try to analyze the subsequent effects and such, read this attempt.
No, they should've met... hence why Claire is alive and Sylar didn't get her powers until 5 years into the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkshadow
And in this current future, they do think Sylar is dead... So some unforeseen circumstances occured that kept Sylar alive.
Also, why the heck would Claire still be alive in the future if Sylar supposedly has her powers, he only acquires them in the future we just saw.
So in conclusion, if future Sylar didn't get Claire's powers in the past... that could only mean that Peter saved her and should've gained her powers in this current timeline.
The only other possibility has to be that in this current Future, and in all futures Sylar never actually acquires Claire's powers in the past... with or without Peter's help, that it was simply a misconsception by Hiro and he survived Hiro's stab some other way unknown to us.
I was wondering... Is there like a symbol for the red and blue colour ? I mean that the battle between Sylar and Peter was Red VS Blue. And when Mr. Bennet wanted to know if the kids had power, the colour was either red or blue.... Is this like a hidden secret code or something or am I just going into details?:confused:
The fire and ice thing symbolism was suppose to be life vs death.
As you noticed Peter(the person who likes saving things) had fire(life, passion) while Sylar(the guy who just can't seem to get over his special obsession) had ice(cold cold death).
I was geeking out when I saw that though.
HOLY SHIT AWEOME EPISODE!!!!11111Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsu
now that i've gotten that out of my system....:p
i think there are actually 3 seperate timelines (that we've seen/know of). Theres the original timeline where all the shit happens, sending future hiro on his original adventure....thats the timeline that we haven't seen i think.
Then theres the second timeline, the one we saw in this episode, and the 3rd timeline which is in the past, the one hiro will now try to change. The reason i think theres 3 time lines is cuz frist, when future hiro and past hiro meet, future hiro says something like "why are you here, none of this should be here" and then he goes on to explain that he stabbed sylar, but it must not have worked.
Heres how i think it happend. Future hiro tries to kill sylar by stabbing him, but sylar heals cuz of his claire powers. Then future hiro decides he has to stop sylar from healing in order to kill him, so he goes to see peter and tells him to save the cheerleader (the results of this are what we saw in this episode). As a result, peter get claires powers instead of sylar, and explodes wihtout dying. Now future hiro is thinking that after his talk with peter everything should be back to normal, but when he comes back to his time line, it hasn't altered the way he wanted it to (hence the "none of this should be here" comment). SO....future hiro has now sent past hiro and ando back so they can change the timeline a third time, this time killing sylar permenantly. I think as a result of them going back, peter will also stop from exploding, or atleast explode somewehre else so this whole chain of events doesn't start over again.
Great episode. But since there are different time lines being created, even if Hiro changes the current time line, the one that Peter blew up will still be destroyed, and he will still have to fight it out with Sylar. It's just that some where there will be a whole new time line without the explosion, assuming that Hiro does succeed in stopping all 3 guys capable of blowing themselves up.
Nathan is a bitch! I know that wasnt him, but it is something that he would do. I think that it is great that he thinks that is him in the painting in the white house, but really it was Sylar.
Nope, it's him in the White House... he should've gotten that far and that's why it's Sylar behind the courtains in the painting.
I love this show.
However, there were a few things that had me disappointed lately.
- Parkman [in the most recent episode]. It's been five years and you mean to tell me that he is unable to read minds yet without that completely horrific face of his? The look of half-concentration, half-constipation has got to go. After five years, and given it is his profession, I would imagine you would work on that.
I may also be applying Marvel physics here, but I would also think that if you can read thoughts, you would also be able to project them. Again, that is more than likely just me associating telepathy with the great characters of Marvel.- Peter v. Sylar. Their fight was bologna. It was crap. Why was Peter facing away from Sylar? He does not become blind when invisible. It was a terrible plot device to bring Peter and Claire together again, and allow her a moment of use within the family. Additionally, Peter goes invisible and everyone loses sight of him. It's a good thing Sylar has enheightened hearing. Yet, they seemed to forget about that.
- Peter [in the most recent episode]. It is five years farther into the future from where we left Peter. I wanted to see a display of more powers. He doesn't have to know the person. He didn't know Claude before becoming invisible. He is like Synch. He just needs to be in proximity once, and that's it. I was hoping for more development and advancement there, since his potential is limitless.
- Time Traveling. I am confused and I need it dumbed down for me, a la Back to the Future. Just show me a flux capicitor and break it down.
Other than that, this show is fantastic. I am hoping Sylar is killed. He seems like a very weak character. I mean that in terms of his personality. His goal is petty. He is "eating" brains, and watching him eliminate super powered people every episode is irritating. I want the story to advance, but if a new power is introduced it is disheartening to me as a viewer to watch it be snuffed out in the same episode. The company Eric Roberts works for seems appropriate to be the focal point of the show, in regards to the main evil. I like the idea of government corporations, who also employ and utilize super powered people to do their dirty work. Weapon X ftw.
Again though, this is an exceptional show. Apologies if I repeated other peoples' thoughts and comments, as I did not go through all of the pages, only the most recent three. Hopefully, repetition is not a bannable offense now.
WTF why is nobody discussing the new episode? bit weird everybody walking around in new york without anyone intervening? So mr bennet wants to kill the little girl.. (but doubt that will happen) and wtf happened to hiro? It was nice though seeing that sylar has his ice attack and Peter obtained his fire hands(or something else hot) like we've seen in the future.
I did not like this episode. Almost nothing happened... We just get to know that there this girl who can find people with abilities. Also, Sylar thinks he is going to explode and he doesn't want to kill innocent people. Weird of him....
Ya, this ep was definitely lackluster in a lot of ways. We find out that Sylar, despite his potential badass-ness, is basically a mama's boy. Boohoo. I think the writers were trying to make me sympathize with his character but I lack that kind of empathy, sorry.
Mama Petrelli in the leagues of Linderman I'm not surprised with, but just totally disappointed. The man's completely insane. Getting what you want at the expense of others is not cool.
Plus the Niki/DL scene was dumb. I read that even Tim Kring admitted that the storyline/writing with this family was not the best and were hoping to make up for it by the season finale. By the way it's going, I doubt that the season finale can even deliver =P
So yeah, I'm still waiting to see how shit goes down in the next two weeks but I'd give last night's episode a "C".
I have too agree with the rest of you guys, this ep pretty much sucked.
Especially after the previous episode, I thought this ep would rock oh well.
Its seems though that the Company is under Mister Linderman and Sylar is starting to think of being president interesting.
And hooray for Hiro to be able to teleport with out going to the future ! I doubt that Peter obtained that power yet,
the power we saw in the future was fire not nuclear power.
I cant wait for the next week though, shit WILL hit the fan :D.
I didn't feel that this ep was that terrible. I did feel what we were supposed to feel about Syler. Yes, he chose to be an evil psycho and take his mommas boy nonsense to an obscene level, but I still felt that if she had been content with him as just a watchmaker he could have stopped. And the irony of the standard mom message of 'You can be the best b/c you're so special' being so twisted in Syler made her saying it over and over all the more effective.
Also the stuff with Candace (aka Mysterio) was pretty cool, a) the fact that her power isn't limited to her own form, and b) the ice cold slap in the face she gave Micah. Her bitch factor continues to grow and grow, I hope she manages to somehow have a part in the finale or maybe next season.
However, the stuff with DL and Nikki is getting pretty dumb and boring, too bad, since I thought Nikki/Jessica had decent potenial.
Most scenes with DL are just plain annoying, I wish Sylar would hurry up and take his power it would be much better.
I liked the future where Sylar was president because I like his character, hopefully now he isn't so much of a mama's boy, it was weird to see that he isn't that psychotic in the way that he doesn't want to sacrifice innocent (meaning people without powers) people and didn't want the bomb to go off.
Am i the only one who thinks its wierd that sylar managed to negate hiros time stoppage? We know he doesn't have hiro's power, so what other power could let him, for all intents and purposes, defy the laws of space/time? It better not be somethign lame like his telekenitic power or some shit.
I liked the stuff with sylars mom. To me, he's finally become a real character, instead of a one dimenstional cartoon villan. Now we know why he is the way he is, obbsessed with being special. And we see a human side to him, twisted though it was, when he starts to panic about blowing up new york.
Wtf is with nathan....hes working with linderman AND the company? And they both want him to let the explosion happen? wtf. somenoe explain this to me, cuz im lost in regards to his motives and intentions.
I find it stupid that mohinder believes the whole "Molly is the only one that can stop sylar" shit...all she can do is find him. Big deal....finding isn't the same as stopping. He should know that better then anyone. I just hope he realizes the company is using him, and doesn't actually know how to stop sylar.
For Syler, I'm thinking Hero lost focus as he swung the sword and that's why time unfroze
For Nathan, it looks like now Linderman is the head/a head of the company, like Hiro's dad, and possibly momma Petrelli. Nathan was most likely introduced to that Company guy as a contact, after he came back from LV. Something that is slightly off about this is that if Momma Petrelli is part of the company why does the Hatiian work for her and why is she hiding Claire. An easy answer would be that she's on board with the Company policy, but not when it involves her family hence she got Claire away from them before they could start experimenting. Another possibility is that she used to be involved but then left because she disagreed with Linderman or something, and now is going her own way.
Good episode even though not a lot of action happened.
I wonder how mimic girl looks like... It seems that she must be really ugly that she wants to get "cured" badly......
And, I want to know why is Mr. President so bad? Why doesnt he want to help Hiro? And I hope Ando doesnt get himself killed....
A lot of sad stuff happened. I cried when Ted and DL died. So sad.... They didnt deserve to die.
I want to see what happens with Parkman and Co. Mohinder is really starting to get on my nerves...
It's because of the whole "let the bomb go off, save the world" ordeal that Linderman was negotiating with Nathan.Quote:
Originally Posted by gr3atfull
Another awesome ep. Syler is badassly evil, Hiro's dad was so cool I can almost believe Hiro became a sword master in the space of a few hours. Maybe Hiro's dad made that room a hyperbolic time chamber.
I was just thinking that, watching that scene ... "Hiro should be training both his swordsmanship and his ability, by making that into an isolated bubble of time" ...
Going from creampuff to even a decent swordsman in a few short hours seems ... err ... implausible. And Syler telekinetically flipping a SWAT van doesn't...
Also ...
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DL was finally useful in the show. That's the first thing I thought after we see him grab a fistful of Linderman's brain. What a way to die. But the Niki/Jessica thing was... eh. I know it's kind of necessary to keep the storyline around because of Micah. But wasn't it interesting how Linderman implied that by having two specific people meet he can create greater chances of breeding specific abilities into people? At least, that's how I read that statement.
Mr. Bennet was totally awesome. No-nonsense shootdown of his former boss. That was great but uh, shouldn't some of the consequential blood splatter get on Parkman or something? Add that to Hiro's ability to wield a sword within the space of a few hours, I guess.
And I thought showing Illusion Girl's (Candace?) insecurities about her body weight or appearance was a nice touch. Makes you wonder what she really looks like.
There were some parts where I thought the writing seemed forced but maybe that's just me with a fine-tooth comb. Can't wait for next week. Does anyone know if it starts at the same time or an hour earlier? I heard it's gonna be a 2-hr season finale.
Man i loved this ep, my heroes of this ep were defenitely Hiro and Mr. Bennet
Hiro training was awesome, it felt like watching a anime or something :D . The way Bennet killed his former boss was to cool for words seriously.
I didn't expect Linderman and DL to die, especially DL because in the future Syler had his powers.
All in all a good ep and i can't wait to next week!
hmm...maybe DL isnt quite dead yet...from what i saw in the last scene, he was still moving; but barely. Hopefully he somehow makes it out alive (i dont see how, though, with linderman both dead...and if not dead, not wanting him to live). Maybe he can pull a Sylar and eat the brains he pulled out and heal himself :P
I agree that this show is one of the best so far. I like the ability of Hiro, and I wouldn't mind having that.
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A nice episode, I wonder if DL is dead because that takes away some of the future from the one we saw with Sylar having his power, although it's a possibility that there is someone else who can do it.
Sylar is awesome yet again! I hope he is around for a long time to come.
Linderman could've helped alot of people with his power, I loved the way he died though.
That's also how I took it, it's interesting as it also may be why that girl molly has the ability to find anyone she's looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honoko
Would be really awesome if he did it.... I mean, where did his brain go?Quote:
Originally Posted by rockmanj
I think DL just pulled a chunk of it out of his head. That's kinda gross now that i think about it.
a rather disturbing way to kill someone, to be sure.
I do think its painless though.
Well, touching the actual brain, in theory should be painless, but i think he left a hole in linderman's head, which would hurt a lot...
I had the impression he squeezed the brain juice out of his brain, since his eyes went red just before he died.
-_-...that's even more gross
Dai Pinch....
Ok finale. Felt like it could have been better. Volume 2 looks interesting with the origins and whatnot. Hiro back in early Edo should be entertaining not to mention that eclipse that they showed.
I'm not sure if Peter can regenerate in space and come back, so who is going to stop Sylar now?
It sucks the season is over, but an AMAZING finale!! I'll discuss after inserting my spoiler warning~~
SPOILER FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVN'T SEEN THE FINALE
I thought it was really good. I especially like how Saving the cheerleader actually did save New York. Considering 1.) Sylar couldn't regenerate, and 2.) Nathan's change of heart (which I totally called). There's of course a few cliff hangers that every finale leaves you with. The one's that I seen (I may have missed some) were:
What's happened to Peter? We know he lived, but where is he?? Hope it isn't something lame like he was blown out to space. Will he still have his badass scar?
What's happened to Nathan? Is Nathan actually dead? Or was he able to shoot off in time to save his life. Heck Peter could even use the power he got from Sylar to just knock him flying. Or he was around Hiro at the end there. Maybe he teleported Nathan somewhere and teleported back. Or maybe he's just dead!
What's happened to Sylar? It looked like the "flash of victims" in his eyes meant he was dead. But the trail of blood said otherwise. Personally I think he's dead, but I think (my next question) will come into play on this one. I think he was taken away by someone... someone worse.
Who was Molly talking about? Worse than Sylar?? I thought that was impossible :eek: (well not really...) Personally I think whoever it was will become the main antagonist. We've probabaly even seen them. I also think they were the one who took Sylar. To do who knows what with his body, somehow absorb his power? Maybe he's the opposite of Peter in that they have unconditional hate not love. Who knows. But I hope Sylar is actually dead. Otherwise it's a tad cliche.
Is there still more behind Mama Petrelli? She still seems to mysterious to me. Maybe she's the next bad guy (girl)? Id oubt it, but I do think there's more to her.
What's to become of Hiro? Is Hiro going to be stuck in this past? I hope not because I love him. But it does look like we finally got to see the eclipse. Now just to find out what's behind it. Maybe Kensie is the super villain :p
What's behind the eclipse? Is that when the DNA began to change? Did it affect everyone who saw it? Did it affect those soldiers and who looked like Kensie (I hope i'm spelling his name right? The dude Hiro got the sword from).
A Power we don't know about? Was Charles and Peter's "get together" Charles power or Peters?
Thoughts on Next season? I think because of the name Generations we might see Hiro stuck in the past for awhile. Maybe the eclipse was the start of all "power" but Hiro seeing it reverts him back to normal. I think we might see Peter and or Nathan in a different time frame as well. Of course we'll also see the struggles of modern day Heroes and their new or old villain.
It'd be cool to see people's responses and perhaps some more questions that I missed or left out. Either way awesome finale, cannot wait till next season!
J-kun pretty much summed it all up. Hiro in samurai Japan, that's freaking awesome. And I already pre-ordered the Season 1 DVD set through Amazon.
Although I also do agree with darkmetal's comment above. Somehow, I felt like this whole thing could've ended so much better. Some of it felt kinda anti-climatic. Like, the reason why I predicted a long time ago that Nathan was gonna carry Peter up and fly away was so that Tim Kring can prove me wrong and think up of something more brilliant. But that didn't happen. Boo. Nevertheless, I am looking forward to Season 2.
Peter was alive and scarred only in the future where the bomb went off at street level and Sylar stole Candice's powers to become Nathan (who he obviously also killed). We're now pushed into a different future. DL and Mica are both alive, Parkman is probably dead. I think it's safe to say that Peter and Nathan are both dead for good. Peter could never really control Ted's powers, and he'd be threatening to lose it all the time unless he spent a lot of time controlling it. (Like the month or so Ted took.)Quote:
Originally Posted by joker-kun
I think it's pretty clear the villain for next season will be Molly's phantom person. "When I think about them, they can see me..." Very creepy. Definitely looking forward to it. Sylar better be dead, he was starting to get annoying.
One more thing to think about. What ever happened to that woman who could used the internet and satellites all the time? She met up with Ted and later Parkman, and was never seen again. Did I miss when she died or disappeared?
Noah ...
sorta fits, I guess.
Nathan being dead makes sense -- if I had been in Nathan's position, I'd have chucked Peter oceanward and flown clear... but maybe he's not that quick-thinking. Peter being dead doesn't. Peter being scarred might, given that he still exploded ... if anything's going to carve a big ol' gash across someone's face, it'd be that, I'd think. Of course, Peter probably should have been able to fly himself away, for that matter.
Syler ... my money's on hiding out in the sewers. From the wound, should be dead, but remember that his original power was really just insight into how things work, and he gained powers after applying that insight. So maybe he'll be able to fix his broken self before he completely stops working. He's also still got that telekinesis bit, he could probably use that to improvise bandages (hold blood in, pull severed arteries together, etc) and probably also for a bit of self-surgery. Assuming he gets to himself in time, that is.
It's not like Peter could fly away from the explosion, he was the explosion. It was centered around him because his entire body generates it. I also don't see how you can regenerate from little bits. Even Claire died in the alternate future when Sylar cut her head open in just the right way.
I suppose we could say Ted never died when he generated the radiation and blew up the Bennet house for instance, but it was clear that Peter never really had control over Ted's powers.
The series has a bittersweet ending if Peter died, with the two brothers sacrificing themselves for the greater good. If only Nathan is dead, then it just comes off sour to me.
Okay ending.
But I really want to know what is Momma Petrelli's power, Hiro's dad and Charles. And what was the "dream" Peter had?
Hopefully Sylar is dead because I am getting tired of that "weak" enemy.
I personally hope that Peter will survive and Nathan dies. One of them must survive.
Maybe hiro's dad is Kensie (sp?). I also hope (probably not though) that sylar and peter are dead and hiro stuck in the past ,with that, all the sick strong powers are gone. So we will get a x-men like team who will fight the bad guys.
Kensei, sword saint, someone with god-like skill in wielding a blade, the most famous being musashi miyamoto.
I was kinda thinking that peter could have just flown real high into the sky, since you know, he CAN fly. I guess that wouldnt have been as emotional, i guess. Oh well. I kinda hope that nathan isn't dead; i kinda liked his character. But you know peter isnt dead, and neither is sylar (comic book rule #1: the main protagonist and villans have allerterative names lots of the time i.e. peter peterelli, gabriel gray). I think the really bad man might've been the hatian, although thats kinda out there. And im hoping Ando gets powers...like he looks like he could be fast or something, like quicksliver.
Also, i think a guy that is way worse than sylar, and like could easily overpower him, yet works with him would be an interesting angle. Think about it...u know sylar would be pissed, and waiting for an opening to chop the guy's head off the whole time, but he just wouldnt be able to...that would be both funny and dramatic (the double whammy!!!1)
It was a nice ep with lot of action, drama and progress.
But i really hoped there would be a peter vs sylar fight but i think they want to keep that for season 2 cuz sylar ain't death or like some others already said about the new villain taking over sylars power or working with him.
Maybe the new villain is one of the friends of Linderman who ' lost his way'. And Hiro in the past going to be bitching :D
ya teh new uber villian could be one of lindermans friends. It could also be some one from the past...i mean like, 'mideval japan' past. We know this kensie guy is connected to the heroes somehow, since his insignia seems to turn up everywhere. And with that eclipse, it realy seems like they're foreshadowing a major even that happened (or rather, is happening) in the past (maybe the origins of the mutation). So im thinking whoever this new villian is, he'll be like 400 years old.....the first villian as it were. Maybe kensei's original enemy.
That would be awesome, cuz then hiro would play a central role once again, and become even more badass.
oh, and while im at it.....imagine hiro learning battoujutsu from kensie, and training for like10 years. mutant powers + uber 1337 samurai skillz = BAD ASS
If the new villain is super old from the long long time ago. That will be exactly like X-Men with Apocalypse. I am not complaining. It would become a even more awesome show.
I don't like how Sylar died so easily...and was really killed by Hiro after all.
SYLAR HAVE MY BABIES <3
We don't know if he's dead-dead yet. There was one shot towards the end where you see the bloody ground where Sylar was supposed to be trailing to an open manhole. Not to mention the cockroach crawling around just before it cut to Volume 2. Recall the appearance of a cockroach back when Sylar was caught by the Company and how he fooled people into thinking he passed away in order to escape.
Oh yea...i remember that...maybe the next super-villan is some sort of bug guy (cockroaches have been around for a looong time, and are really adaptable. it makes sense).
I was suprised, I thought Sylar was dead there for a second. He might've been dragged to the man hole, but it's funny that no one picked up on it at first or even the ambulance didn't take him, as he was pretty far away from it. I would've liked to have seen Sylar get Clare's power at the end or Parkman's. I thought he was going to get Parkman's when he went off after him.
I see Hiro doesn't have full control of his powers, or is it the only place he thought of before he got launched into the building.
It's funny how many of you think peter is dead when he lived in the future after blowing up new york lol. Hiro ending up in japan like that must have just been him panicking that he would end up as a pancake on the building so he warped anywhere without thinking. I actually thought he would end up in the pre historic era fighting a t-rex like that early picture in the show lol, would have been awesome :). Sylar has to be alive since we saw the bloody trail into the sewer. hey maybe peters mom is the evil person that girl can't see lol.
I'm having a hard time accepting that Linderman is dead. Such a lame way to go for such a great man.
Maybe there is an hero ([sic] lol) that can bring people back from the dead.
if there ever is, then death will have no meaning in the series, i think that would ruin it all
I think its because people take the whole "exploding" in the way of, exploding into little bits, INSTEAD of an explosion of energy, that is how i always saw it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FullMetalAlchemist
I mean c'mon, look at this:
http://heroeswiki.com/images/4/40/Pa...urning_man.jpg
http://heroeswiki.com/images/1/18/Peter_explode.jpg
It always seemed like a massive release of energy to me, instead of blowing himself to bits.
There is no way peter is dead, sylar was 100% dead at the end of the show, he was just dragged of by some new person.
Nathan, i dunno, all cases i come up with nathan dies, cause there is no way he outran that explosion, even if peter, stopped time or flew by himself, the explosion was way too big.
But yeah, ppl take explosion way to literal.
i really really believe that the haitain is the evil person that the girl cant see. i believe this for a few reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by FullMetalAlchemist
1) the haitain can negate peoples powers. So if there is only one person that can negate the tracking, it pretty much has to be the haitain.
2) Im not SURE but i think that somewhere in the series, the haitain could tell when a power was trying to be used on him, like mind reading i think he may have realized his mind was trying to be read. And the girl says that he can tell when hes being watched.
3) This was a real small part and i dont remember it too well and it may just be something else, but like, when bennet and the haitain were walking down the hall to go somewhere, and bennet confronted the haitain about that he knows that the haitain told claire whats really going on or that someone found out he could talk or something, and then he yelled at him for doing something, and then the haitain said it was an order from someone with a higher voice than him, so its obvious that hes working for someone else, maybe as a part of a organization of villains like hiro's dad's old friends who have "turned to the dark side". Kind of like Itachi from naruto being part of akatsuki. Pretending to be good for a while, then turning on everyone and joining a large organization.
But he's also got an apparently limited range for this. We don't know how Molly's power works (or anyone else's for that matter), but presumably she wouldn't get within the limits of his powers when he's, say, in texas and she's in new york, or something like that.
Further, while he's played along with "bad" guys (Bennet's company), he's also played along with Bennet to the detriment of the company. Bennet trusts him so far as to let him poke around in his memories...
I don't know what the Haitian's goals are, but they seem to be generally in line with the goals of the good guy squad.
I think, given the current cast of characters if Syler really is dead (which I'm not convinced of), season 2 needs a villain who hasn't been introduced yet.
Also, Itachi was legitimately good, he wasn't just pretending. I expect that he probably turned on the Uchiha clan after realizing the brutal, even fratricidal history and inner workings of the clan that would let them even discover Mangekyo -- it's not like he invented it or anything. He likely felt that the clan as a whole deserved extinction, and that it would only happen if he made it happen. And he likely left Sasuke alive because he felt that as both part of the clan and the murderer of his entire extended family, he too deserved extinction. Even now, we don't really know Itachi's motives or goals, past or present.
I think the "bad" guy Molly is reffering to is the guy Peter was a nurse of in the beginning of the series, the one that talked with Peter after he fell unconscious. He's a well known actor, and I don't think they would bring him back towards the end of the season for nothing. I think he still has a big part to play.
This series will soon start running in the Netherlands (or just has ), is it worth following ( assuming that a 40 page threadhistory is enough to guarantee that ) or does the storyline drop, as it did with Lost (imho) ?
How the future timeline gets affected still hasn't been explained. In the future we saw, Claire was alive so that means that Peter did save her (hinting that the future we saw was already affected by some changes in the past) as we saw in the "Save the Cheerleader" portion of the series, so that means that he got her powers and still got a scar. Was it already explained how he got the scar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryllharu
As I said in a post a couple of weeks ago, the only other way is that Claire never dies in any timeline and Skylar never acquires her powers, in any storyline. Mr. Bennett simply staged her death to get her away from the company. But "Nathan" and Claire knowing each other in the future, strongly hints that she probably also met Peter at some point, which I'm guessing is from the current storyline we've been experiencing.
Has this been revealed yet? A yes or no answer will suffice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Honoko
I wish it was a simple yes. Basically, the implications were planted in the show itself towards the end, with that particular comic confirming it. I don't want to spoil you by accident since it's so murky and we both may have a different opinion of what a spoiler is.
It's not really a spoiler to answer his question, I don't see how one could derive exactly what was revealed in the comic from the show alone. Much like Lindermans "little problem" for which he needed Micah, the comic explaination of that would be a little bit of a stretch to make blindly, though I guess it's possible. But I would say no, what Honoka mentioned was not revealed in the main show with any level of explicitness.
So, I just finshed watching all the episodes in a span of like 3 days and I was hooked. I really liked the show, it was gorey, and it had Hiro. Anyways, anybody know when a possible second season would air, if at all?
Well, seeing as how it was the most popular show in america, its been picked up; it'll probably start sometime in the fall.
Comic-Con '07: Heroes' Panel
The story contains some minor spoilers from next season, so don't discuss it here and read at your own risk:
http://www.tv.com/story/9973.html?ta...y_list;title;0
Only one part of that is really surprising (and not in a good way).
My prediction for season 2: Sylar dies very early on, probably in his first appearence getting killed by the new Big Bad. Sylar is too ridiculously powerful to stay alive for another confrontation with the heroes and it's unlikely season 2's Big Bad is going to be teaming up with him.
I root for that prediction as well, but in press conferences Tim Kring made it very clear that he really loved Sylar's character (I don't know why =P) so I think it's more likely that the S2 Big Bad will use Sylar as some kind of lackey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Y