Attack on Titan: Shingeki no Kyojin

Maybe on some other forum or something, but certaintly not here, because there isn't even a scene that would even suggest that.

And how is it "everybody"?
I don't expect Connie to turn out a titanshifter, nor did I expect the random Scouts.
Do I think Sasha is one? No
Do I suspect some of the main characters? Yeah, I do.

Rainer has so much screentime, he has probably more minutes than Mikasa right now, to the point where people started to mention it when he didn't appear for 2 episodes.

Ymir and Christa weren't exactly random noise in the background. Something was bound to happen with these two, at least Ymir was already a "get's eaten soon" candidate for me.

On top of that, we have seen 3 Titanshifters right now. The beast Titan is most likely one too and so are the Colossal titan and Armored Titan. Considering that Eren's father injected something into Eren and Eren is the only Titanshifter out of the "main-crew" we can expect something like a virus, or gene modification etc.
Now after what happened in Connie's town, we can be even more sure that Titans might've been humans once. That means, even if only 1 out of 1000 "injections" (or whatever that beast titan did) becomes a Shifter, we might see a few more comming up.


And then there is Annie's training scene with her father, where he sent her off and said to her that it's okay to "hate the world and make everyone your enemy". Annie turned out to be a titan on a mission inside the walls. Guess her father knew about her condition? Did he send her? Did someone else send her?
So what if that guy who sent Annie, send another 20 or so to spy and do stuff.

Well, I don't know, I think it's part of the story and part of the build up we've been given so far.

edit: talking about Ymir, didn't that talking titan (the one in season 1) call a human "Ymir's People"?

Well, we are kind of assuming that Annie/Rainer, etc. were from normal villages inside the walls...but that doesn't have to be the case.

We've been TOLD that there's no humans outside the walls, but there's no reason at this point to assume that's the truth. Their simple human villages could be outside the walls.

Keep in mind that all these recruits joined after they lost the outer wall. Annie, Rainer, Ymir, etc. all could have come from outside when the wall fell, and then simply signed up for the Corps. It's not like they have background checks. If an entire city is wiped out one of the refugees from that city tells you they're from there, how do know they aren't? Especially if you don't know human titans are a thing, why would you even think to check?

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Originally Posted by KrayZ33

Reiner and Bertholdt were never suspected to be titans in episode 2 or 3... thats complete BS.

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Seriously. I don't remember anyone even suggesting the possibility of human titans until after Erin changed. If people were really suggesting that they were titans in episode 2, those people were manga readers.

We know so little of the real background that even the ED seems enlightening. Considering this state of ignorance, it would make perfect sense even if there were 100 titanshifters among the city people. It seems strange to call it poor story writing before we know the story. The fact the walls are built of titans and that the priests seems to know a whole lot but can't tell anything suggest the current populace (including the main characters) doesn't know shit about their own circumstances or history, they only assume a whole lot.

The herring can alone is quite interesting as obviously canned food is quite modern, yet the language was totally alien. Was it brought from outside of the walls, meaning there's another human civilization out there, or perhaps it's so old it was left by the wall builders? Perhaps there are other cities elsewhere, and those cities are actually ruled by titanshifters. For some reason this one city rejected titans (maybe they require totally horrendous sacrifices like cannibalism), apart from making the walls, and does hold some titan related key for who knows what effect. It would explain why the priest doesn't talk: Because this way of living isn't actually the only one and this city falling wouldn't mean the whole humanity going extinct. It's one thing to fight to the death thinking you are defending the whole species compared to fighting to the death only to defend the current rulers who decided how everybody should live.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

episode 16 is out

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What episode 16?

I think the canned foods came from outside the wall and were left behind by wall-builders.

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So much for Ymir. She wasn't especially formidable as far as titans go. Her background story might be more interesting, though. Was she from somewhere else where the relationship with titans isn't the same, but she was shunned there? That would explain why she said she and Christa are the same. On the other hand she might be from this same city if we assume the rulers know everything, including the foreign letters/language. Although in that case it would be strange they would have left Ymir at large.

Christa should know everything with a name like that... But apparently she knows nothing. She could instead be directly tied to the history of the titans, through a bloodline, perhaps.

Sucks that Ymir is dead. Would have been cool to have two "good" titans on the team.

I kinda hate the choreography of fights such as Ymir´s. There weren't THAT many titans around. If had had been more observant, calmer, she could have taken all of them out without getting herself in danger. But this is an over-dramatic anime, so of course she simply jumps inmidst the titan group and rages. Oh well.

Congrats, Rainer, for getting that upskirt-view.

I thought Ymir was going to run with the group in her hair. Stopping post-fall was the worst decision.

They just really wanted her to die.

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Originally Posted by Kraco

So much for Ymir. She wasn't especially formidable as far as titans go.

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She killed, like, a dozen other titans. That seems pretty formidable.

That said, yeah, her "special" power doesn't seem that interesting. It's just kinda monkey-like movement.

The way she struggled to say "grab on" suggests that, like Erin Titan, people in Titan form only freely act to achieve the specific goal they envisioned when transforming. Her transformation might have been "kill Titans and protect tower" when she transformed, making that the only thought she could elegantly process. It wasn't until mini blonde told her to bring down the tower that she began to improvise, and if Erin is any indication, it is hard enough to control your Titan form without processing external instructions after transforming. Those are good enough speculations for me to forgive Ymir's lack of tactics or running away.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

I kinda hate the choreography of fights such as Ymir´s. There weren't THAT many titans around. If had had been more observant, calmer, she could have taken all of them out without getting herself in danger. But this is an over-dramatic anime, so of course she simply jumps inmidst the titan group and rages. Oh well.

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Ymir wasn't the attacking titans' primary goal. The tower was about to collapse. Ymir needed to attack as fast as she could and as recklessly as she could to draw the attention to herself and away from the tower.

Next episode...Warrior. Brief glimpe of the Giant Titan transformation. At least I think that was him. Reiner and Bertold are there too. They keept on calling each other warriors in their previous lives. Guess they really are titans if it is the giant Titan.

Well, ASSUMING Reiner and Bertholt are the armored and giant titan, I´m curious to hear their justification. Especialy when they seemingly do care about their team mates.

Being under deep cover can do that to you.

Wait, Ymir is dead? She's a Titan, Eren survived worse due to his titan-regeneration?

I didn't see that scene as them showing she's dead, but actually that she survived.
I mean, you don't smile when you are dead?

Wasn't that scene supposed to show the exact opposite?
Seemingly dead body returns to life by opening her eyes and showing signs of emotion?

edit: she's not featured in the preview for the next episode though.

Erin survived his injuries by turning INTO a titan, which regenerated his own body. Ymir seems to have sustained those injuries to her body WHILE a titan, so unless she turns into a titan again, they wouldn't heal.

That would seem to be why attacking the neck is how you kill a titan. The fur titan even commented that "They know we live in the nape." So obviously every titan has a little human body in it's neck, and if you hit that body, you do real lasting harm.

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Originally Posted by KrayZ33

I mean, you don't smile when you are dead?

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People do that all the time in anime.

If I recall, during Erin's trial, Levi kicked a tooth out of his mouth, and in the following scene they confirmed it had grown back, sans transformation. Odd, unless Erin's titan-ification is somehow unique in the way it functions.

She smiled because everybody's waifu Christa told her real name, at least symbolically meaning she will accept her real identity and not try to hide anymore.

There´s simply a limit to what a titan-human can regenerate imo. A tooth? No problem. An arm and a leg? Tough luck. And the ending with Ymir smiling after hearing Christa´s real name definitely was one of those "now I can happily die"-scenes.

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Originally Posted by DarthEnderX

Erin survived his injuries by turning INTO a titan, which regenerated his own body. Ymir seems to have sustained those injuries to her body WHILE a titan, so unless she turns into a titan again, they wouldn't heal.

That would seem to be why attacking the neck is how you kill a titan. The fur titan even commented that "They know we live in the nape." So obviously every titan has a little human body in it's neck, and if you hit that body, you do real lasting harm.

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Not really, there is no such thing as "lasting harm". It was shown that limbs and other parts of the body grow back and heal rather quickly.
On top of that, Christa wasn't even "sad" after she opened her eyes and they stopped her bleeding by tying the arm+leg to prevent blood flow.

Nah man... her titan form was already pathetic, she could at least show remotely the same resilience as Eren. This sucks.

Episode 31

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LOL.

So just like that.. "Sup, I'm the Armoured Titan. He's the Colossal Titan. We're here to kill you all. Wanna join?"

I rewinded that twice to make sure HS didn't accidentally slip that in.