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hold on a minute guys... this aint suppose to be a science forum... well as far as the topic goes... haha but it does seemed to be evolved around the relativity theory by einstien... perhaps naruto can SUMMON einstein(einstein-summon no-jutsu) and see if the summoning process does in fact happen in a instant...
cheers for all the science fanatics!!!
Actually, it does follow from his theory that travelling faster than the speed of light would move you backwards in time. However, you would need some nice exotic matter (which hasn't even been proven to exist) to keep a wormhole open. In addition, particles that travel faster than light do exist. They're called tachyons.
It is not an instant travel.
When Naruto sumon the frog, you can see the chakra build up from his hand slowly into a form of a frog. That is no way the speed of the light.
i sure wish i livedin a world of delerium when i jsut blindly go and stand by my opinions no matter how many times their proved to be stupid.Quote:
Originally posted by: Alai
I don't think that red energy is supposed to be the frog boss. I'm pretty sure its the energy given to naruto by the nine tails. I agree with Jessper they show it as an instantanious movement and cover it with smoke because its not supposed to be a big deal. So maybe he doesn't move instantly which would make since. But you still cant prove it =P until they show an episode without smoke and show how it works.
Ah, you don't understand what they're saying. First of all, you're right. Naruto just summons the frogs below is hand. That's how he gets on top of them. Now, what you're missing is that these guys are trying to apply real-life physics to an anime. I try not to do it myself, but I really do love trying to find scientific explanations for things. Now ya see, take Naruto's fight with Gaara. Naruto was in a tree, being captured by sand and about to be squished. So, let's say the branch Naruto is on is 30 feet off the ground. Now, Naruto summons the frog boss below him(which is why he's on top of the frog), and in an instant, Naruto is no longer 30 feet above the ground, but 500. So, in .001 seconds(that seems pretty instant [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]), Naruto went 470 feet directly upward, because the Frog Boss' body pushed him up to that new height in that instant. That's pretty darn fast. Naruto himself wasn't moving that fast by his own power, but rather, it was just Gamabunta's body mass that instantly filled the area below Naruto and forced him up. So, that's what it's all about. They were speculating if that caused Naruto to move faster than light. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] All right, I hope ya understand.Quote:
do you notice that blue and red stuff BELOW naruto? ok, so that's where gamabunta was summoned and next thing we know it, naruto is on top of him. hmmm, i wonder why? oh wait, maybe it's because it has to do with where gamabunta was summoned! since gamabunta appeared below naruto, that's why naruto landed on top of him! so this explains that naruto does in fact move but not in the speed of light as you say. it's like standing on top of a flat air mattress and then pumping it with air, which makes your rise. basically, the summoning pushes you up and the speed which you rise is undetermineable so stop saying it's in the speed of light. wow, what an amazing discovery.
But you can't go faster than light even if you're trying to find a scientifical explanation.
that is trueQuote:
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
no......the a frog's size doesnt change depending on how much chakra is used
the TYPE of frog is what changes
example: the little frog naruto summoned, Gamakichi, would always be that size, until it grows naturally. If naruto used more chakra, he would just end up with a larger, DIFFERENT frog, rather than a larger gamakichi.
its possible to "move" from one place to the other faster than the speed of light (theoretically), by "folding" space. more commonly known as creating a wormhole [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
well....he IS right about the red being the kyubi's chakra, not gamabunta. because they've emphasized several times already that red=kyubi, blue=naruto, and you can see for yourself how he starts with a little blue, but then after talking to kyubi, he gets an enormous red blob of chakra to formQuote:
Originally posted by: HokageVirus
i sure wish i livedin a world of delerium when i jsut blindly go and stand by my opinions no matter how many times their proved to be stupid.Quote:
Originally posted by: Alai
I don't think that red energy is supposed to be the frog boss. I'm pretty sure its the energy given to naruto by the nine tails. I agree with Jessper they show it as an instantanious movement and cover it with smoke because its not supposed to be a big deal. So maybe he doesn't move instantly which would make since. But you still cant prove it =P until they show an episode without smoke and show how it works.
i never said the red or the blue chakra was gamabunta. that's just what needs to happen before gamabunta summoned.
erm well... as far as i know... particles tat travel faster than light do exist but only hypothethically... tachyons hasnt exactly been discovered yet...Quote:
Originally posted by: cshlin
Actually, it does follow from his theory that travelling faster than the speed of light would move you backwards in time. However, you would need some nice exotic matter (which hasn't even been proven to exist) to keep a wormhole open. In addition, particles that travel faster than light do exist. They're called tachyons.
the creature is made up from noodles that naruto got in his pocket so he applies fire to them they take the form of a frgo then he cools them down with water and smoke comes cause of the smoke they start living. you all know that smoke makes things live right?Quote:
Originally posted by: Alai
When Naruto summons the frog. Does it start small and get big really fast? Or, Does it just come out that big. If it just comes out that big then Naruto moves faster than light. Instantly. One of Albert Einstein's theorys about faster than light travel was that it would actually take you back in time. So, Is Naruto capable of time travel?
what's a frgo [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
its a typo on frog jackass [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
This thread is kinda annoying me so I had to make my first post [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Speaking from a physicists point of view (doing my masters), assuming that gamabunta is coming through a wormhole then the space around where Naruto summons him would have to be tremendously warped by it. If this were to happen then it is entirely possible for Naruto to effectively move from one place to another faster than the speed of light. (he would actually be moving at a normal speed, but the space inbetween would be shorter - even though it might look the same) This is one of the better theories for faster than light travel, by bending space so that you only have to travel a shorter distance, although it is a bit SF.
If that hasn't confused anyone then yay! cos it confuses me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Secondly, just remember this is anime, not reality...
I think [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
i think its funny when people try to apply real life things to stuff in anime....come on now
Isnt time a theory in the first place?
Draken
time is just something made up by humans to understand why things gets older and it changes from night to day for example right? i dont know much about this kind of stuff but thats the conclusion me and my friend came up with..... its quite common for topics to turn into sience(sp?) discussions these days [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Applying Physics to an anime show is not very bright u know..i mean.if ur gonna argue about the speed of light..y not argue how is "chakra" in our bodies....
anime is simply anime...theres nothing to it...ur an idiot if u try applying these laws of physics to an anime show..i mean..HOW THE HECK DOES BYAKUGAN EXIST?!?!?!...and..how can bugs be inside ur body and not kill u?
No intelligent story would try and disclude known laws of physics. Off topic but, theoretically, if we had some sort of spiritual energy, hereditary defects could easily be passed down that weren't really defects. "Oh look, if I put energy in my eyes, I can make them change color and they give me super vision!" It's not so inconceivable if you take into consideration you have a form of spiritual energy that is not proven to exist in our universe. But no one's trying to prove that so I'm rambling.
You can easily include the laws of physics because those are known laws that you cannot defy. Anime and stories may sometimes break the laws, but they still include them. "Oh look I can fly, but I gravity still exists because I can still walk if I wanted to, I can just fly as well" No one's trying to prove anything, like how Neji can have a 359ish degree field of vision. It started as speculation on how Naruto ends up on top of the frog, and the frog's summoning speed was brought up. People go, "Well gamabunta appears super fast so that's the speed of light!" It's hardly the speed of light, anyway (if it were you'd probably see the summon before the smoke appeared from the impact of it, but you don't see that so it's safe to assume it takes a little bit of time for the frog to appear)