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Well, it's an illusion, so it could look like anything. Chains, ropes, webs, but everybody uses the exact same vines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukimura
Genjutsu only works if you don't KNOW it's an illusion. By having 5 genjutsu ninjas in a row all using the exact same attack, it makes it impossible for it to work.
"Oh look, vines have burst from the ground to ensnare me for the 5th time today. I bet these vines are real unlike the last 4!"
No.
is it just me or does all combat genjutsu besides the tsukiyomi seems really weak. i mean it seems the all you have to do is do a "kai" or hurt yourself to get out of it.
you compare something crappy to something even crappier to argue that its good. if i said that id rather drink piss then eat shit would that automaticaly mean that piss taste good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monomate
Typical filler garbage, except three times as long. What distresses me most is that the arc isn't even over.
I don't understand how Kurenai suddenly had psychic abilities (she used a jutsu to discover people?) and a ton of weird techniques. It's like the stupid filler writers got even dumber and decided to butcher a decent character in the manga.
I had to fast forward through some portions of the episode(s), especially the genjutsu fights. The only cool part about the whole thing was when Rock Lee and Gai were training... which was about 10 seconds long, tops.
I blame the bad execution, lately, for making it look like that. Maybe it's just the way fights are fought in Naruto that unfortunately renders genjutsu worse than it should be. The really interesting fights always last for a long time, but one illusion after another is a bit unlikely technique, like DE said. The exception is something like Mangekyo Sharingan that has the quality of a decisive attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by RasenDori
I don't think the prefiller Naruto even had that many Kurenai fights... Were there any other fights than the short one against Itachi and the shark guy? If Itachi hadn't been there, we might have seen a good example of how a genjutsu master works (well, a genjutsu master that doesn't have the power of sharingan...).
No, in fact, the Itachi fight is the only time we've seen most of the Jounin in action. Asuma, Kuranai and Gai have never had a non-filler fight besides that one.
In fact, I still maintain that we don't know jack-shit about how Gai is actually supposed to fight. I mean, obviously he's a Taijutsu master, but unlike Lee, it's never been stated that Gai doesn't know how to use Ninjutsu. I'm wondering what kinds of powers he has besides his Taijutsu.
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Originally Posted by Kraco
didn't the rain ninjas use genjutsu during the exam? or are you talking about both sides using genjutsu?
Actually didn't Gai have a non-filler fight with Kakashi by his side during the chuunin exam where they were both counting how many opponents they took down? Given those guys were all chumps.
These episodes felt long to me and quite repetative in the use of genjutsu as most techniques were the same that only left us with interesting counters. What annoyed me the most was how the guy with the catfish mustache attacked the same person TWICE with the same move that didn't work the first time.
Also what happened to the medical Ninja's and the ANBU member? Considering we saw all of the other ninja's bodies in every scene it made no sense they just disappeared and nobody cared at all. Or how about them drying important top secret documents outside on the top of a ungaurded building?
The Tajuu moment was pointless considering Naruto has done the same move with a Kage Bushin as far back as the prelims of the 3rd round of the chuunin exam.
Well this has atleast been better then several of the past arcs but I really can't take many more filler arcs.
Oh and the new opening and ending didn't impress me much at all. Given the sideways DB text for the ending made it hard to read and watch the images at the same time.
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Originally Posted by DarthEnder
Asuma also saved Shikamaru from those same pretty low level sound (or were they sand) chavs in the forest, when Shikamaru were left behind to sidetrack the pursuers. But this, along with that arena fight by Gai and Kakashi, can't really be called real jounin fights. Gai would need to fight against somebody like Zabuza that we would learn anything really interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDBen
I was talking about Kurenai's fights. "I don't think the prefiller Naruto even had that many Kurenai fights... Were there any other fights than the short one against Itachi and the shark guy?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Roboto
eps. was terrible action wise. I get the plant theme for the genjustsu as they are Leaf ninja but to use the same technique over and over again? That was annoying as hell. Also the animation quality seemed even worse then previous fillers. If the person isnt extremely close to the screen then they're drawn rediculosly deformed (the discussion between Gai and Kurenai after Gai finishes with Lee for example) Pierrot needs to fire every animator that worked on the fillers ASAP.
Why? It was probably cheap for them to produce it, and everyone is still watching...Quote:
Originally Posted by mr3vi1m0nk3y
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Originally Posted by DarthEnder
That's entirely possible too. But somehow I think that doing this sort of thing excessively is bad. I think Kurenai should be the last character they do this too. (Even though they said nothing about her history at all.) Hopefully it's the last filler arc! *coughpraycough*
They do mention that the Medical Nin and ANBU are still missing, but they do seem to not care after they get the girl back to the village. So much for protecting everyone from the village.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDBen
There's no mention that those documents are top secret. They're most likely just records and paperwork.
The Tajuu thing bugs because it's WRONG. Naruto saying Tajuu implies he's going to make a MASSIVE amount of clones, vs. just saying kage bunshin no jutsu. In non-fillers, when he says Tajuu, something like at least 100 shadow clones appear, not 5. It's like Goku taking 5 episodes powering up saying ka (one episode) me (2nd episode) ha (3rd episode) me (4th episode) ha (5th episode) and a pencil thin beam coming out of his pinky. :p
Filler guy 1: Hey, people are complaining that we've been using Kage Bunshin and Rasengan too much.
Filler guy 2: I know, use regular kage bunshin again, but tack tajuu infront of it!
I don't know about most of you guys, but if you take away the minor annoyances, I think it was a very good episode. Although there may not be as much action, it's nice to see an episode with mostly just genjutsu battles to see more of how it works. Also the plot thickens at the very end, and it left me wondering if the third would really order an assassination towards an entire clan. 9/10.
You know it will turn out that they're mistaken about the Third giving the order, but what would be cool is if he did give it because the clan threatened Konoha in some way. Go a little more in-depth of the controversial decisions a man of his authority has to make regarding the protection of his village.
I think that would go against his character. He might have been able to sacrifice one ninja to save two, but ninjas are soldiers and tools to be used by others. However, killing off a clan would mean sacrificing not only ninjas but civilians as well. I can't believe all of them were genjutsu ninjas, even if the girl's parents both were. Even all Uchida clan members weren't ninjas, if I judged the scenes correctly back then.
Is it me or did they give Sakura a noticably sizably larger chest as they kept Hinata still somewhat flatsville?
Besides that, I think it was an "ok" at best set. It was nice to see Shino in combat which to me was on of the key things that kept my interest in this series. Though, another thing kept me watching is waiting for Hinata to go into combat rather than delegate duties and direct. One thing that is keeping my interest in seeing the continuation of this arc is seeing Gai in combat as well.
They probably won't pull and use any of the skills provided to them in combat as per non-fillers. Somehow, I get the feeling I won't see either in combat.
Otherwise, I wanted to see it to atleast complete the collection.
To play devils advocate, the story explains why the henchmen used the same techniques like most if not all of the kuruma's blood line were physically weak and/or couldn't pass the chuunin jounin exams. With that in mind, it would leave some, not a lot, leeway to forgive the henchman for repeated use. In that same token, it was said that Kurenai purposely allowed herself to fall into their traps only and use their own technique against them, which happens to be leafy not allowing her for much creativity.
Though, respectfully, even in a previous episode when she combatted against Itachi, she used trees, so perhaps its a konoha specialty?
Anyways, long time reader, not exactly first time poster, forgotten my other account or lost it in the transition the board made.
Sakura still had a uber flat chest. I just checked it out.
Umm, she's also still 12, so that's freakin' nasty.
Btw, having Hagi in your sig means you probably don't like chicks anyway.
Actually, 12 year old pussy tastes like the best cotton candy you can imagine.
Nothing nasty about that.