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Depends on who those 3 users are Jadugar.
If you're referring to Kakashi then that depends on how he got his. If you're referring to the unnamed 3rd user, then we have even less knowledge about how he/she got theirs. And Sasuke doesn't even have his yet.
It appears to be Kakashi unless Kishimoto comes up with another one of his twists.
wait, i thought obito only had the two circle tingy sharingan, cuz he died right after he got the sharingan, and i woulda sworn that itachi said that the third person was some guy hella long time ago who learned the secret, which made acheving mangekyou a semi-forbiden thing to acheive and for sure, kakashi is the 4th
That's all the info we have. We know it is not Obito because as you said, he died just after gaining his sharingan. Kakashi might have developed Mangekyou shortly after the Kakashi Gaiden and just has not used it (or has been unable to use it effectively) until the chapter he uses it in (haven't read it, just going off of what I've heard). It's also possible that he only recently developed the MS during the 3 year gap, and the 3rd user Itachi referred to was either someone who lived long ago, or someone who has yet to have been revealed to us.Quote:
For reference, according to AonE's translation of episode 131, Itachi tells Sasuke: "If you awaken it, there will be three people, including me, who have ever used the Mangekyou Sharingan."
It's kind of a moot point.
To get Mangekyou, you have to kill your best friend. So this is where it gets confusing. Time will only tell.
EDIT: OMG OMG OMG I KNOW!! Kakashi killed Gai!!
There's a chance that Kakashi "killed" his best friend (Obito) because he really beleived Obito's death to be his own fault.
Oooh.. the plot thickens.
But then couldnt that just make it so all the character has to do is believe he killed his friend to get the M. sharingan? Then sasuke could just imagine that he killed Naruto to get the M. sharingan.
Problem with that would be Sasuke knew Naruto was alive when he left. Kakashi saw Obito die, so he could blame himself all he wanted.
Not that I like the theory, but whatever. Maybe Kakshi caused the rock to land on Obito somehow...
Eh... I highly doubt it has anything to do with Obito.
The theory isn't solid. I'm just pulling stuff outta my ass until it makes sense.
So far the only known way to acheive Mangekyou is by killing your best friend. We know that Kakashi feels a great deal of remorse for the death of Obito (and possibly Rin), because basically any dialogue concerning Kakashi's past hints that it was a really big deal for him. During the Kakashi Gaiden he says "If I'd gone along with what you said and went with you to rescue Rin, none of this would have happened" as Obito is dying. He also questions his abilities as a commander and a Jounin, so it's obvious to see he feels at least somewhat responsible. It's possible he blames Obito's death on himself and beleives he killed him indirectly. Whether or not that gave him the Mangekyou is questionable, however.
We dont really know if its the ONLY way. We know its the only known way.
what im intrested in is if kakashi's move WAS teh mangekyou sharingan or not. It mite just be my imagination, but i could swear it looked different then what itachi had. Its possible that its some variation of it, not the exact same thing that itachi has.
yeah, it did look different. Instead of the three pupils combining into one uber huge pupil with 3 edges, kakashi's sharingan had 3 uber sharp long pupils just barely connected.
I'm positive Itachi did not have Kakashi in mind when he said there are 3 potential users including himself and Sasuke. Itachi got MS right after killing Usuui (sp). Kakashi had already come to grips w/ Obito's death way before he developed his version. So those past feelings have no connection to him achieving his current MS.
yea, i think your right. Itachi said something like "the sharingan was made for the uchihia body, but it is still impressive that you have mastered it this much"... or something to that extent. I dont think he would ever expect kakashi to develop it or somethingQuote:
Originally posted by: chet_chetty
I'm positive Itachi did not have Kakashi in mind when he said there are 3 potential users including himself and Sasuke. Itachi got MS right after killing Usuui (sp). Kakashi had already come to grips w/ Obito's death way before he developed his version. So those past feelings have no connection to him achieving his current MS.
Well.... MANGEKYOU was clearly written on the page in the manga. I think it would be pretty stupid for Kakashi to say MANGEKYOU! and then realize that it was a totally different thing. Not to mention that he's a "genius" too. I mean I could see them making Naruto say something like that, but it would make it pretty dumb for someone to mistaken their own jutsu/technique.Quote:
Originally posted by: Assassin
what im intrested in is if kakashi's move WAS teh mangekyou sharingan or not. It mite just be my imagination, but i could swear it looked different then what itachi had. Its possible that its some variation of it, not the exact same thing that itachi has.
(speaking of this, reminded me of the episode where Naruto wanted to learn Chidori and he kept begging Kakashi. Then you hear Naruto screaming "CHIDORI! CHIDORI!" try to do it. LOL!!!)
then again that's the going assumption that you get MS by killing your best friend. Sasuke will more than likely get MS and it wont be by the aformentioned. plus i think Itachi had a specific person in mind when speaking of the 3rd person (him obviously intending Sasuke as the 2nd)..and it certainly was not Kakashi.
Plus Kakashi's version has a completely different effect (in addition to his eye looking different than Itachi's) then the Uchiha version. More than likely it said "Mangekyou Sharingan!" in the manga just for fan service and also to throw people off.
yah it does l,ook complety different, but waht now im also confused about when he said "Its A New Sharigan"Quote:
Originally posted by: Assassin
what im intrested in is if kakashi's move WAS teh mangekyou sharingan or not. It mite just be my imagination, but i could swear it looked different then what itachi had. Its possible that its some variation of it, not the exact same thing that itachi has.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...h276p028iy.png
well it has the same name though it looks and does different things o.O so i dunno lol
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7...h276p048ua.png
also sorry the pics are so big, forgot to resize n didn't feel like doing it again -.- lol, personly i dunno who the third user is, for all i know it could be danzou or sai -.- ( doubght it though lol ) though personly i dont think he was talking about Kakashi XD
I hadn't read that part in the manga, or seen Kakashi's Mangekyou, but that is definitely quite different than Itachi's. I'm pretty certain Itachi didn't mean Kakashi was the 3rd user.