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i didnt like that at all, sasuke was portraid(sp?) as a badass from the begining but when he jump in in front of naruto he just seemed like a weakling i didnt like it at all. to think i actually thought he was cool in the begining. oh well thats probably because he was a badass. i liked the first curse seal scene much better, when he broke zaku's arms for a moment there he turned into his old badass character again oh how sweet that was. really ruthless thats how i want sasuke.
doesn't sasuke start to look like itachi ? ^^
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well, they are brothers....
everyone knows itachi is bad ass but he will not be the strongest as the story progresses. as for sasuke, i want to see itachi kill him slowly and painfully cause he's a fking prick. even ROCK LEE is cooler than him.
I don't think he will come back. He will get his eyes opened and realize the truth and what he did. But with at least 1 of his comrades dead because of him he will chicken out and run away. Either into the woods or to Oro, but with a whole different attitude. Not just "going there and joineing him". Knowing that Oro just wants to use him, knowing that the curse seal is shit, and trying to use Oro himself to learn what Oro can teach him (jutsu wise) and then escape.Quote:
Originally posted by: Shadow-arrows
I agree with this, i see kakashi rallying all the gennins, sand and bringing them to interupt the fight, which by this time will be at the climax where sasuke and naruto will almost kill each other, (after powering up to the max), by doing some big mega jitsu. then after being interupted, they have this long talk about how the leaf will not make sasuke weaker (they did defeat the five sounds). however, before sasuke makes up his up, kabuto shows up aducts him and brings him to the snake man he will brain wash him and take over his body before he gets rescue haahahahaaa!! [img][/img] (j/k) but i do agree that sasuke will see the light ,i feel a character like him in this situation will go back to the good side sooner or later [img][/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: tuggumkee
Now this is a interesting prediction, I would really like to see that. It would fit the theme of Naruto very well and also keep sasuke on the good side.(plus i think it would make this arc incredible)Quote:
Originally posted by: Elessar
"You are someone who knows the same pain of loneliness that I do. And.. that pain makes a person stronger. Because of that, by severing these bonds... I will gain even more strength."
I was expecting Sasuke to win and join Oro - but after that sentence I don't think that option is valid anymore. Sasuke will, just like Gaara, learn that fighting for someone is better than fighting for yourself. Maybe he will beat Naruto and then be caught off-guard by Gaara or will have to face all the survivors of the expedition team + sand in a group fight when they fight for Naruto - and his very own sake. But what is imho certain is that by the end of this fight, Sasuke will have understood just like Neji and Gaara did.
wow i dont think ive seen a manga discussion thread this long[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
i was gonna say that too. that they r brothers.Quote:
Originally posted by: kaigan
well, they are brothers....
everyone knows itachi is bad ass but he will not be the strongest as the story progresses. as for sasuke, i want to see itachi kill him slowly and painfully cause he's a fking prick. even ROCK LEE is cooler than him.
HEY! u make rock lee sound as if he's not cool. rock lee is the coolest guy!! but killing sasuke YAH!!!! but i rather have sakura dead...
Remember the fight: Sasuke/Naruto vs. Garaa? Remember how Garaa would keep tranfoming part by part, until he become the giant Shuusaku (or whatever the name was) creature? Naruto is just beginning to transform. The double-edge sword is probably: once Naruto reaches the final-form, like transforming into a giant Kyubi creature, he will probably will go berserk and lose his mind.
Btw, whoever said all of these recent fights only consist of Taijutsu is because: those fights consist only of Genins! Genins don't even suppose to know how to preform ninjutsu; Sasuke is one of the few special case. Kakashi even praised Saskue for able to use ninjutsu as a genin when they first met. (Uhh... the 'get the two little bells' and pass the test)
But nine pages of it was just bickering.Quote:
Originally posted by: basey_69
wow i dont think ive seen a manga discussion thread this long[img][/img]
He chidoried naruto right in the lung, and was aiming for his heart. that was pretty fucking ruthless, and badass. He didn't show any kind of remorse either. In fact, he was smiling, and I don't think he was even using the cursed seal to make him even more evil.Quote:
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
i didnt like that at all, sasuke was portraid(sp?) as a badass from the begining but when he jump in in front of naruto he just seemed like a weakling i didnt like it at all. to think i actually thought he was cool in the begining. oh well thats probably because he was a badass. i liked the first curse seal scene much better, when he broke zaku's arms for a moment there he turned into his old badass character again oh how sweet that was. really ruthless thats how i want sasuke.
no.........Quote:
Originally posted by: ~Greed~
Remember the fight: Sasuke/Naruto vs. Garaa? Remember how Garaa would keep tranfoming part by part, until he become the giant Shuusaku (or whatever the name was) creature? Naruto is just beginning to transform. The double-edge sword is probably: once Naruto reaches the final-form, like transforming into a giant Kyubi creature, he will probably will go berserk and lose his mind.
Btw, whoever said all of these recent fights only consist of Taijutsu is because: those fights consist only of Genins! Genins don't even suppose to know how to preform ninjutsu; Sasuke is one of the few special case. Kakashi even praised Saskue for able to use ninjutsu as a genin when they first met. (Uhh... the 'get the two little bells' and pass the test)
all ninjas are taught ninjutsu and genjutsu at the academy. In fact naruto's final exam was bunshin no jutsu, which is a genjutsu. It's also been said that its extremely rare for a ninja to exist that isnt capable of performing ninjutsu or genjutsu (that being lee).
kakashi was surprised sasuke was able to perform fire ninjutsu, which is a higher level than what most of the other genins can perform.
And naruto and sasuke DID use other jutsus in their fight.......naruto used kage bunshin when he was falling, and sasuke used fire to lure naruto in a trap. They also both used rasengan and chidori. But it was established from fighting that none of those were very effective.
yea but none of em used a genjutsu, although theres no point in naruto using one now sasukes sharingan is better
which is exactly why naruto wouldnt be able to get away with a crafty stunt like hengeing into a shurken like he did against zabuza
Yeah those eyes of his are so cheap :\
yeah, but he still can't see whats behind him... naruto could probable use that
What purpose does Sasuke going to Orchimaru actually serve the series. The entire point of Sasuke giong to Oro is for Oro to take over his body. Other then probably the mangekou abilities, Sasuke has a fully developed Sharingan. Why would Oro train him up endlessly if he just wants his body? He doesn't need Sasuke to know powerful jutsus, just have his bloodline ability developed. If Sasuke goes over to Oro, ya might as well justkill the character.
but brother don't necessary have te same 'psycopath' face XDQuote:
Originally posted by: kaigan
well, they are brothers....
so... not long now till next chapter [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Well, that is the idea. Sasuke doesn't know about oro's plan to take over his body just that oro will train him to make him stronger. Plus oro will wait to train saskue because he wants to take over his body when it is at full potential, that way he won't have to train the body himself.Quote:
Originally posted by: Baranthal
What purpose does Sasuke going to Orchimaru actually serve the series. The entire point of Sasuke giong to Oro is for Oro to take over his body. Other then probably the mangekou abilities, Sasuke has a fully developed Sharingan. Why would Oro train him up endlessly if he just wants his body? He doesn't need Sasuke to know powerful jutsus, just have his bloodline ability developed. If Sasuke goes over to Oro, ya might as well justkill the character.
yes i said in my post before that one that i want him to stay evil like he is now so he can go to oro. and i dont want him to be pussified by narutos speech. thats what i meant i just didnt go that far in my analysis of sasuke if i may call it that.Quote:
Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
He chidoried naruto right in the lung, and was aiming for his heart. that was pretty fucking ruthless, and badass. He didn't show any kind of remorse either. In fact, he was smiling, and I don't think he was even using the cursed seal to make him even more evil.Quote:
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
i didnt like that at all, sasuke was portraid(sp?) as a badass from the begining but when he jump in in front of naruto he just seemed like a weakling i didnt like it at all. to think i actually thought he was cool in the begining. oh well thats probably because he was a badass. i liked the first curse seal scene much better, when he broke zaku's arms for a moment there he turned into his old badass character again oh how sweet that was. really ruthless thats how i want sasuke.
as for the itachi - sasuke thing. of course brothers can look alike but those crazy eyes show cause of the emotion behind them. sasuke will shortly have the same ideals as itachi does. thus he will become itachi.
oro cant take over sasuke's body for a few years still, so in the meantime, he trains himQuote:
Originally posted by: Baranthal
What purpose does Sasuke going to Orchimaru actually serve the series. The entire point of Sasuke giong to Oro is for Oro to take over his body. Other then probably the mangekou abilities, Sasuke has a fully developed Sharingan. Why would Oro train him up endlessly if he just wants his body? He doesn't need Sasuke to know powerful jutsus, just have his bloodline ability developed. If Sasuke goes over to Oro, ya might as well justkill the character.
yea i hope thats what kishimoto has thought up for him. and naruto hiding with jiraiya getting training and sakura trains under tsunade(hopefully) so all of them become better and more like the sannin. that would be kickass. only if that happens a time jump can be done.
the only thing I like to happen with that plan though, is that Sasuke doesnt turn out like Oro so much as the other will turn out like their teachers
i think sasuke will become more and more like itachi instead of oro. but the other 2 already got qualities that are very similar to their teachers.
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Originally posted by: Hotsuma
Thank you. I'm glad somebody gets the picture.Quote:
Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
yes it is quite lame. and boring in the long run.Quote:
Originally posted by: GotwootNewbie
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Originally posted by: Hotsuma
People who want Sasuke to become evil.. Dream on. It's not going to happen. So far, everybody in Naruto who's fought against him has ultimately changed their ways. I think it's lame that they do, because a kid yaps his mouth, but oh well.
No its not lame. In naruto the charaters are acually HUMAN with real emotions. I mean look at Zabuza(sp?). He was evil he killed for fun he called himself a demon. But near the end he died crying because his friend haku died. Protecting him and everyone else. I think this style of story telling is more real then some of the other idiot badies out there. Who have no real purpose other then to kill and cause chaos.
@ hotsuma. maybe we are dreaming but if he doesnt this series will suck really bad. sasuke cut all ties to konoha when he left if he comes back now and everybody forgives him i will seriosuly kill kishimoto.
Badass guy : "I must kill everything! The world sucks!" (or anything anti-hero)
Naruto : "No! You can't kill! It's just not right! Change your ways!"
Badass guy who is no longer badass : *cries* I'm sorry, I was wrong.
Naruto : "Let's go eat some ramen."
Villains are meant to stay villains. Neji was MUCH cooler as a "villain." Gaara was more character as a bad guy. (but when he came back, he was still fairly cool, because of how dramatic it was) Zabuza was an AWESOME bad guy who had all the right parts to being a good villain. Until Naruto came in and pussified him.
Maybe I'm just a cynical person. who knows.
if i remeber correctly neji was a whiny bitch back then and didnt do anything cooler then whats hes doen recently. neji back then was a calm collected person until someone mentioned the main family...then he was just an asshole. im glad that he changed, cause hes still calm and cool. he just isnt an ass anymore. needless to say, i prefer this neji.
on topic: i hope next chapter either seals the deal with this fight or ends with a real cliff hanger (you know one thats not like "oh my god! he powered up! see you next issue!")
I'd like to see the next chapter have an ending that's not "power-up" related. But if they're gonna whip out the level 2 with Sasuke I think they're gonna wind up doing just that... another "ooh aah" chapter.
I wouldn't mind seeing Lev 2 Sasuke smack Kyuubi down (though I doubt that'll be the case). If there was something left of Naruto after the beatdown perhaps he could switch back to the sneaky shit that he's known for... that'd be more entertaining than 2 super-powered adolescents bumping heads over and over again.
We'll if there is anyhting left of Naruto's mind left in that body. He's so powered up right now he's lost him self in the power and has gone into auto fight mode or somthing along those lines. Sasuke IS going tpo have to beat him down till he can't get back up again. I feel sorry for who ever interupts this fight first.
oh man, if there's another clifffhanger...i don't know what i'll do.
oooh~ if kakashi's the one who interferes he getta see naruto in his kyubi form. cuz he hasn't really yet. he just felt the kyubi presence during the zabuza battle and he didn't get to see naruto use the kyubi chakra during the chuunin exam.
Then Kakashi would say to Naruto. "Snap the fuck out of it!" And Naruto pops back into reality.
Ah i think the real reason i hate DBZ is because how the english dubbers literally ruined it for me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] stupid dubbers!Quote:
i thought DBZ was a cool series. Not a Great series (which would actually include logic, a good storyline, good character development, and a monster soundtrack), but nonetheless a very entertaining series to watch. If you weren't in awe from Goku turning SSJ ON Freeza and its all like "AAHHHH!!!!", then yeah, watever. I just thought it was COOL to finally have that sunbitch freeza on his ASS screaming for his life.
~Greed~ posted this(sorry dont know how to do the quote thing)
"Remember the fight: Sasuke/Naruto vs. Garaa? Remember how Garaa would keep tranfoming part by part, until he become the giant Shuusaku (or whatever the name was) creature? Naruto is just beginning to transform. The double-edge sword is probably: once Naruto reaches the final-form, like transforming into a giant Kyubi creature, he will probably will go berserk and lose his mind."
I was thinking the same thing about kyubi, I seem to remember a time where kyubi said that even if naurto died he would not. But, if kyubi were always around thru out history the whole world would be destoried I figure kyubi needs to devour a human soul to take form. He is slowly doing that to naurto it seems. Also people say that naruto's kyubi form got weaker cause he was not able to deflect attacks with chakura alone. Well i think this has to do with out kyubi's chakura was being used in the first battle Naruto was more or less taken over by anger then it released. Kakashi was worried cause the seal may of broke. But, it didnt yet naurto didnt call for it either. Remember how ero-sanin tought naurto how to control kyubi? In every instance since then naruto has talked to the fox before he came out. But, this last time he didnt and it took more form of kyubi, and part of the seal seemed of of break aswell.
One last thing has to do with the differance in how kyubi was sealed and how the 3rd sealed the 1st, 2nd, and oro's arms. Kyubi is a huge deamon fox with great power that was easily stronger then any of these 3 people. I would bet that the way the seal worked on the others would not be posible because of this, that he has to seal it into somthing not just into the belly of death.
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Originally posted by: Fobik-X
~Greed~ posted this(sorry dont know how to do the quote thing)
"Remember the fight: Sasuke/Naruto vs. Garaa? Remember how Garaa would keep tranfoming part by part, until he become the giant Shuusaku (or whatever the name was) creature? Naruto is just beginning to transform. The double-edge sword is probably: once Naruto reaches the final-form, like transforming into a giant Kyubi creature, he will probably will go berserk and lose his mind."
I was thinking the same thing about kyubi, I seem to remember a time where kyubi said that even if naurto died he would not. But, if kyubi were always around thru out history the whole world would be destoried I figure kyubi needs to devour a human soul to take form. He is slowly doing that to naurto it seems. Also people say that naruto's kyubi form got weaker cause he was not able to deflect attacks with chakura alone. Well i think this has to do with out kyubi's chakura was being used in the first battle Naruto was more or less taken over by anger then it released. Kakashi was worried cause the seal may of broke. But, it didnt yet naurto didnt call for it either. Remember how ero-sanin tought naurto how to control kyubi? In every instance since then naruto has talked to the fox before he came out. But, this last time he didnt and it took more form of kyubi, and part of the seal seemed of of break aswell.
One last thing has to do with the differance in how kyubi was sealed and how the 3rd sealed the 1st, 2nd, and oro's arms. Kyubi is a huge deamon fox with great power that was easily stronger then any of these 3 people. I would bet that the way the seal worked on the others would not be posible because of this, that he has to seal it into somthing not just into the belly of death.
I'm pretty sure Kyuubi will die if Naruto does. That was the entire motivation for Kyuubi to help Naruto get the necessary chakra to summon Gamabunta the first time. Chapter 95, page 16 "If you die, I die too eh? To threaten me like this...what guts" Also in 229 Naruto blasted back Sasuke's Katon with pure chakra, if anything has been indicated by these last chapters, Kyuubi's aid has only gotten better, or Naruto has gotten better at pulling chakra out of him. Naruto hasn't talked to Kyuubi everytime he's used the red chakra, and in fact, the transform time (this time) he did.
But who'll win ? Naruto or the Sasuke ? (Is Kyuubi an option ?)
yea kyuubi will die if naruto dies. thats why he is helping naruto.
then watch it in japanese...Quote:
Ah i think the real reason i hate DBZ is because how the english dubbers literally ruined it for me stupid dubbers!
kyubi has been alive for a long time...but he is most probably like a summoned creature...eg gamabunta, manda, etc...he is in another place...and needs to be summoned to this world to do any damage..which is what might have happened. but this is still needed to be explained.Quote:
But, if kyubi were always around thru out history the whole world would be destoried I figure kyubi needs to devour a human soul to take form.