skull knight will get his revenge, i also see what lefty said is a possibility
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skull knight will get his revenge, i also see what lefty said is a possibility
Skull Knight will eat Void's brain while Gutts will be raping griffith for what he has done to Caska [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
I think they will attack together, but the ending is SOOOOOOO.... far away, with Miura anything's possible.
There is one important thing about the story...
The way Gutts was born, in the stomach of a dead mother where ghosts the dead bodies came too...
Gutts has always been living on the border between life and death, that is the reason why he has no destiny. This story always tells us so much about how it is fate that made things how they are, but among the things that has happened, Gutts is in the middle swinging his sword towards fate to prove that he can shape his destiny the way he wants to.
He will kill Griffith, that was stated since the day he beat Griffith when he left the Band of The Hawks. Tat he is the Only one that can kill Griffith.
how many volumes are there in berserk and is it still going ?
where can i find them ?
ive only seen the anime
there are 28 vols and vol 29 is on the way... The manga is still going on in simple.
The anime end in vol 12 or something in the manga...
one way the manga is by searching on DC++... Make a search for DC++ on google.com or whatever search engine you use...
Or, as far as I knwo, you can only find from vol 3-28 on BT... Don't really know where, I know I and others sent links earlier in this thread, look through every page of this thread to find it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]... or if you add me to your msn (only msn for me) I could probably hook you up with every last single chap there is so far.
PS. If you want my msn, send me a private message.
ya, the anime is vol 5-12.
you can also jump on irc if you want the manga
#ckmoney @ irc.irchighway.net
The ending of Berserk? Hoo boy. I think it'll be meaty gritty.. everybodies going to die even the flying tinkerbells. Maybe Caska would be the last survivor.
awww...poor serpico
http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/sp/img/05v05.jpg
Is that Farnese cloths?
it's the items shierke gave them
and i think it's his cloak and feather sword to
i think serpico is going also. well for a while maybe.
He will go with Farnese that is normal since he has always been with her. That must be why he was sad in the end of 251.
Berserk 252 raw
http://seedkainisu.free.fr/Young%20A...serk%20252.zip
damn, thanks.
seems like a good chapter, need the text tran, but it isn't at the site i go to.
does anyone want a text tran goto skullknight.net in the forum.
Hahah stop teasing us. By all means. Post. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: kAi
damn, thanks.
seems like a good chapter, need the text tran, but it isn't at the site i go to.
does anyone want a text tran goto skullknight.net in the forum.
Millennium Falcon Part
chapter of Falconia
A white lily in the field
page 01
Isidro - Not coming back? Farnazze?
Isidro - What do you mean? Serpico
Isidro - Who's going to look after Casca?
Serpico - This
Serpico - With this, you will be able to obtain a ship from anywhere in the city and however many crew members you need. Please do not break the seal.
Serpico - And Scherkie
page 02
Serpico - I will return these borrowed items. Thank you very much
Scherkie - Um
Serpico - The Vandimion family greatly appreciates you for bringing Farnazze De Vandimion safely back home.
Serpico - It may be small but all your expenses in this city will be covered by the Vandimion family
page 03
Serpico - We will come back for a more formal appreciation at a later time. Goodbye...
Scherkie - W wait Serpico
Guts - Hey
Guts - It's not a sin to at least tell us why
page 04
Serpico - I have nothing more to say
Guts - It would've been nice to have fought against you one more time
Serpico - There is no reason for that anymore
page 05
Isidro - Well?
Ivarella - Shhhhh
Scherkie - ..No. She's not closing her heart. It's more like she took my hair off of her finger......my telepathy cannot reach her
Isidro - It's kinda....we went through all those tough battles together and now it's a goodbye without a reason with just a piece of paper. This is why nobles are....
Isidro - Not that I care
Puck - (He's singing a song and I dont recognize it)
Scherkie - Something. I think there is a reason he can't say
Scherkie - When I touched Serpico's hand for a moment, I saw a sad face of Farnazze. And Serpico is not sure of this either...
Scherkie - And it's not right! Farnazze was so serious about learning magic
Scherkie - And even taking care of Casca...! And now this all of a sudden...
page 06
Scherkie - Ah, as soon as I take my eye's off of you
Guts - Not really into sticking my nose into other people's businesses.
Guts - But it just doesnt feel good
Guts - Alright little's guy's
Ivarella - What do you mean little's guys
Guts - I have a favor to ask. Something only elves can do
page 07
Puck - I'm kinda excited. The secret noble report
Ivarela - Now don't get too excited now
Ivarela - Don't lose him
Puck - Roger
page 09
Ivarela - Wow, this is great. Like a celebrety
servent - The supper...!?
Puck - But we lost Serpico in the process
Ivarela - Y yes! What you lying down after eating! Dont be all calm after losing him
Ivarela - Huh?
Puck - Stop
Ivarela - It's Farnazze! She's all dressed up like a princess! How stuck up of her! She's my servant!
page 10
Magnifico - This is where you were Farnazze
Farnazze - brother
Magnifico - I'm happy that you accepted my offer. Do not worry, I will not make it go bad
Magnifico - Let me introduce you to my old friend
page 11
Rodrik - It is a pleasure to meet you Farnazze de Vandimion. I am Rodrik of Schtaofen(sp?Huh?) of the Eath(sp?Huh) fleet
page 12
Magnifico - Greet him, he's your future husband
Rodrik - I would greatly be pleased if you would call me Rodrik, miss farnazze
Farnazze - A pleasure to meet you Rodrik. please call me Farnazze as well
Ivarela - He hey hey hey hey! What is this!?
page 14
Magnifico - Rodrik is an old friend from school, and is third in line for the throne of Eath and is also Captain of the Eath fleet
Rodrik - I have heard much about you from your brother
Rodrik - The demon child of Vandimion and the wandering princess
Magnifico - Hey Rodrik, you shouldn't start off with that all of a sudden
Farnazze - Yes. That is true
page 14
Rodrik - You're interesteing
Magnifico - Look Farnazze
Magnifico - All these roses in this green house. They were all prepared for you by Rodrik
page 15
Farnazze - All of this....wow
Rodrik - I was to meet the daughter of the Vandimion family and I went a little out of hand. Did you like it?
Farnazze - I am happy Rodrik. Thank you Rodrik
Rodrik - Really!? You make a great picture surrounded by roses!
Rodrik - ..but I can't seem to like roses myself
Magnifico - um, do you want to get liked or not?
Rodrik - Roses are the nobles among flowers. It gives off the impression of it being all high up and grows with domineeringness. All other flowers are just extra
Rodrik - Yes, just like all the women of nobles. They dress up to see who can be more beautiful. In a green house called the nobility class
page 16
Rodrik - But even those roses, when hundreds and thousands gather, all look the same
Rodrik - These roses are most worthy of decorate you
Rodrik - Even strong winds will not blow you away. The white lily in the field
page 17
Ivarela - Wait now! This is a scandal!!
Ivarela - We can't stay here! We're goin back! We have to tell everyone!
Ivarela - Spread the gossip!
page 18
Isidro - Farnazze
Scherkie - Engaged!?
Isidro - What is that?
Scherkie - Is this true Ivarela
Ivarela - It's true it's true! We just went and saw the other man
Ivarela - "These roses are most worthy of decorate you," or something like that. So cool!
Ivarela - But it seemed all natural and Farnazze seemed into it too
Isidro - She's marrying him so she can't come with us anymore?
Ivarela - Well, I guess so
Isidro - Then why didn't they just say so. Suddely making it seem like they're cutting ties with us
Ivarela - It's embarrasing for a noble to be friends with a monkey like you
Isidro - And weird insects like you guys
Ivarela - What!?
Scherkie - ...I dont think so
page 19
Scherkie - Farnazze was serious and pure about learning magic. She was carrying that silver knife so preciously
Scherkie - It's Farnazze that Casca is most fond of. I cannot take care of Casca that well
Isidro - But even that silver knife got returned. Even learning magic could've been just a simple game for a noble
Scherkie - You always have too much to say
Guts - It's the other way around
page 20
Guts - She will marry to get a ship ready. It's something like that
Scherkie - Y yes! That I can see!
Isidro - I get it
Guts - Expedient marriage's are normal between nobles. And she's the daughter of a high noble as well which we forgot about...
Isidro - Well, what are we going to do?
Guts - I'd like to say it's somethign she decided on her own..
page 21
Isidro - Hey!
Isidro - Uh oh
Guts - It's decided
Guts - A ship in exchange for taking care of Casca and a good meal just doesn't add up
*end of episode
credit to Saiki of skullknight
Thanks.. I love you kai. [img]i/expressions/heart.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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surprise... :>
what do you guys think will happen? will Guts go and save her or keep on his journey?
I think he will go save her because the story has been getting a bit cheesy out of lately...
though if they play it true to his character, Guts should just go on with his journey... and the only reason he might have to save her is if he finds out that there are demons behind the plot....
Don't know what will happen, but... remember the image imprinted into schierkie's head by sonya ?? if they'll stay, they'll die and honestly I'm not seeing Serpico and Farnese dead for some reason... <sarcasm>
It's too peaceful ... ... death is coming ... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Berserk v29c252 v2
http://evanidus.ath.cx:7420/torrents...v2.rar.torrent
Nah Guts will save her cause like he said cause he knows that it isnt her choice to stay behind and he is too soft nowadays. Also as the witch said Farnese is the only one who is good at taking care of his love aka Casca. Even if he didnt care about Farnese he would go save her for Caska's sake.
I think he will have problem with getting her back since Magnifico and Rodrik will not let Farnese go and that is a good thing cause then Guts has to kick thier asses.
One Month break.
Chapter 253 - March 25th
Well Guts will go and get her when they're in the ball like when Griffith's faked his death. He hasn't been to one in a while.
Another break? Well granted Miura is still ill i think, but they just came out of a near 3 month break.
The guy is going to die before this series ever gets completed. But oh well it's worth the wait.
Hopefully they get back to the action soon.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
man this guy is going to kill me, *I* will die before this ends and I'm 18...
I'll go eat my table right now...
:F
Do you guys remember the girl that works for Griffith, the psychic or witch. She mentioned something about getting out of the city soon because it would be ruins. Is Griffith and his army about to attack? Or are they going to demand that the city joins him?
Do you think this battle is going to take place while Gatts is rescuing Farnese, and whether they would get a boat and escape in time?
hmm, yeah well that's something else, it could be an attack from Griffiths, but it could also be the Harashada's boss (Master Diva and the people on the big ship, c243p18). The Harashada's (casters) were the ones that controlled those alligator/crocodile things. The Hawks may fight the guys on that ship.
If Guts is to be involved I think it would be a more minor role, getting Farneze and Serpico and the others on a boat and getting away from there and to elfheim where Guts will be healed up properly will be the main focus, but he will kill some but he is to injured to fight completely, or to go up verse an apostle.
Let's keep the discussion going everyone, pitch in with ideas and what not.
I forgot about this till you brought it up Stoopider, Thanks.
God dammit, go back to Gatts slicing shit up. Bring back Griffith and his army of doom.
hawks released volume 28 if anyone is interested
http://www.thehawks.org/hawks/bt/Berserk/
That was so fast[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
too fast if you ask me... the volume came out in japan just a couple of day ago if you ask me... unless they have ways to gather the volumes before hand... it seems fishy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Then the q cant be that good if they rushed.
well, i think they've always released in the same manner...
Hmm. Then why did the psychic girl project the city destroyed? Unless Griffith is doing nothing to stop it. Or is going to save them, but it's just telling them that there would be war.Quote:
Originally posted by: kAi
hmm, yeah well that's something else, it could be an attack from Griffiths, but it could also be the Harashada's boss (Master Diva and the people on the big ship, c243p18). The Harashada's (casters) were the ones that controlled those alligator/crocodile things. The Hawks may fight the guys on that ship.
If Guts is to be involved I think it would be a more minor role, getting Farneze and Serpico and the others on a boat and getting away from there and to elfheim where Guts will be healed up properly will be the main focus, but he will kill some but he is to injured to fight completely, or to go up verse an apostle..[/i]
Yeah, forgot about Master Diva, Griffith is probably going to get his head.
Okay, maybe this is just me, but have you guys noticed that Caska has gotten VERY thin? All of her muscles are gone now, she just looks like a skinny model. Maybe it's just my mind playing tricks but if Muira did intentionally make Caska look skinnier and less toned, it's really cool how he showed her body's physical digression from months of doing jack.
Edit:
Just before Griffith's rescue from the dungeon.
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/672/cas18cu.jpg http://img93.exs.cx/img93/6665/cas26bv.jpg
Current arc.
http://img93.exs.cx/img93/3319/cas31yx.jpg http://img93.exs.cx/img93/9471/cas47sn.jpg
I also noticed that most, if not all, of her wounds/scars on her body are nonvisible now. I'm guessing it's cuz she has been out of the action for quite some time so they must've healed pretty well.
Caska is such a cool character, I wish she'd stop acting batshit insane... :(
Not only that, Guts seems "smaller" too, probably because of not eating so much as earlier (they're travelling all the time, they're not rich and berserker's armor already had it's effect on him as well).
I think It's Miura doing that on purpose, that kind of details just show how much he is devoted to the manga, these are details we wouldn't think about at first, but seem logical.
Everyone has got thinner cause they are on the road most of time without eating to good.
Its realistic, it would be lame if they didnt get thinner with the way they live right now.
damn... Caska is great... i hope she gets to kickass again, even if it's unconssious (or however you spell it)
Do you guys read the manga by the chapters or do u wait for Hawks volume-release??? I wait for the volume-release.. Even though it's a mysteri to myself how i can wait for so long..
i read chapter by chapter myself... then download the whole volume by hawks
Guts started going downhill after his fight with Slan, he got a bad injury, then he had his fight with grunbeld, then he got the armor and has been using it since, and just it's just fucking him up.
Casca's just been doing nothing, that's why she is skinny, not fighting and keeping up her muscle, and yeah those scars had time to heal. I think we will see Casca in action again but later on, when she is back to normal and after her initial reaction of being bullshit insane
sameQuote:
i read chapter by chapter myself... then download the whole volume by hawks
I myself dont care about hawks volume realese i just save EG chaps.
And my question to you all is: Are you not going crazy from all this waiting?
I know I am [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
haha, yeah i want it now, well only to friday to wait now, so not long.
Damn, I can't believe i put off reading this manga for so long. I just read from chapter 1 to 252 in the past few days, such an incredible story. I've never seen anyone draw rage as well as Miura, really pumps you up. Glad I missed all those breaks though, cause i'd be as out of it as Casca, waiting months to find out what happens next. But anyways shit yeah, can't wait till friday.
Well at least you finally read it. I've been telling people for ages, this is the best manga and forever will be, as other people will say!
What is annoying me at the moment is that there's no preview, and it's released tomorrow. I always love seeing the preview coz then i know it's coming the following friday. ARGH, it's driving me insane, but it should be out tomorrow sometime!
By preview do you mean the raw?
Cause i know a link to the raw.
Wah!! Gotwoot is back. Thankfully. Without some of you guys Links.. I was totally lost and couldn't find warmth in my favorite manga Berserk. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
Welcome back everybody! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Thank you so much, I have been totally lost without my fair share of Berserk :S
Have you read 245?
that chapter came out during the downtime.
245? Or 254?
No I haven't.. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
i meant 254
255 will be out at the end of the week.
Got the link for 254? Unfortunately I don't have 254 either. Thanks kai.
skullknight.net
it's a raw version and the text translation is in the translation forum on that site.
is there any Evil genius version out for it?
Because I don't think I have read it...
From evil-genius forum.
"I got mid-term exams right now and i have no fucking time,so berserk 254 wont be released until 24th april."
http://forums.mindwerks.net/viewtopic.php?t=590
So here is my next question... Can someone give me a direct link to the 254 chap file and a direct link to the pages text from skullknights forum?
Seriously it isn't hard to navigate.
Goto the forum, goto chapter discussion, and then to the chapter and it's always the first post where the downloads are.
aazealh.nerim.net/Divers/254.zip
skullknight.net/yabbse/index.php?PHPSESSID=34abbb1adb3059a8126267b6181f58 a7&topic=4383.0
The translations weren't done by the normal guy who does it, someone new to japanese but it sounds pretty good and further down, another translation was done by that person's girlfriend, and all seems well.
the password for the zip is skullknight
Chapter 255 is out and text translation at skullknight.net
The text translation is done by the normal guy.
Is there anyone who knows how long it will take before evil genius gets it out?
It looks like 254 and 255 will be out at the same time by EG in 24 april or a couple of days after 24.
EDIT:
This is from thier irc channel
"Berserk 254 & 255 this weekend"
Well next chapter is going to be fucken awesome!!!
GATTS V SERPICO!!!!!!!!
w00t
to bad if you didn't know, mwuhahahaha.
Sounds good, because skullknights way really isn't my style [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] It's been a long time since I had some good Berserk, having two chaps in one moment is great [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
[23:43] <@Mut[at]t[at]> GATTS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT STONE PILLARS
Evil-Genius released 254 and 255 for those who do not want to read the translation with a raw.
Pretty good chapters too.
where?
BT: http://evanidus.ath.cx:7421/
IRC: [evil_genius] @ irc.irchighway.net
Awesome!!!!.... So when is the next chap due to be released? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Not this friday but the one after.
or it could be the 13/05
27/05Quote:
Originally posted by: Shinji Ikari
Awesome!!!!.... So when is the next chap due to be released? [img][/img]
WTF, AGAIN!
I'm really getting sick of this
it's like
1 chapter > 2 weeks > 1 chapter > 1 month.
So what did you guys think about chap 254 and 255?
Seeing Guts swinging his sword again made my day [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Poor serpico he thinks some pillars will help him win agianst Guts.
Gatts is definitely gonna destroy him, but not kill him. However, Serpico is a slick muthafucka, I hope he doesn't hurt Gatts too much.
Guts getting hurt badly by Serpico isnt likely to happpen cause what can that little sword do against him that monsters and demons hasnt done against him [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Maybe some of the pillars will hurt him badly if they crumble on him.
I dont understand Serpico in this situation,he must know that even with these conditions he cant beat Guts so why not fight without tricks.
Also what does he hope to acomplish?
it's obvious, Serpico wants Guts to bust his sword, and then he'll be a supposdly easy kill for all the cannon fodder soldiers.
and after all the stone crumbling, it'll provide a shielding against gutts arrows and the cannon, leaving poor guts with nothing other than his iron hand to deal with those mosqitous.
as for what he wants? who knows, maybe he even wants Gutts to fight the army so when farrnese leaves with them it'll be considered a kidnapping and not that she has run away from her family duties.
of course, i'd be happy if Gutts would have just left them to rot in thier noble world, and would have moved on to more demon slaying.
Serpico is indeed, not a stupid fighter, he knows how to pick out the best locations for whom he is going to fight, and when it is Gatts it has to be a place where his sword skill is at it's weakest. Though I can't wait for the next chapter, get to see Gatts back in action, and also Serpico, but i'm really looking forward to seeing Gatts swing that sword a few more times.
Serpico is smart but its time he sees the old Guts the 100 man killer. I hope as Death Boo said that there will some cannon fodder soldiers attacking Guts so he can have something to slash trough.
IWhat i want to know is when everyone will learn about Gutts past... remember how Ishidori talked about the 100 man slayer but never knew who it was and Gutts just flicked it away like it was no one special?
Well sometime they will have to learn what Gutts is truly after and why.
For a second there, I thought you were going to say that you wanted to know Gatts' past, and I was like ummm.
Yeah, they will find out some day, it's to hard to say when, but more than likely when they're closer to Griffiths, or when they get to their destination, Caska might regain her memeory their, and talk about it or something.
I agree they need to have Gatts explain to the crew his past. He's so badass.Quote:
Originally posted by: Shinji Ikari
IWhat i want to know is when everyone will learn about Gutts past... remember how Ishidori talked about the 100 man slayer but never knew who it was and Gutts just flicked it away like it was no one special?
Well sometime they will have to learn what Gutts is truly after and why.
More importantly some of the nobles or soldiers should know about his past since he was a famous warrior when he was with the hawks speciely after they won the war.
I mean not many men go around with a big sword like Guts.
Actually that would be really cool, if someone there would recognise him.
Saying something like "the 100 man slayer!" or something, that would be awesome, or "the Hawks Raid Commander!"
Yeah, nobles kids or women wanting to feel his muscles or something like that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Anyway, I think that part of the manga will totally rock even if much of it is told in flashbacks, They need to know.
hmm berserk, as in the game for the dreamcast with almost the same name??? swords of berserk: guts rage??
and is there an anime of this series then?
The manga is the true form for it.
Yes, there is an anime it's 25 episodes long.
Not to metion the anime leaves off at a spot that is a horrible cliffhanger.
It's alright, but I'd recommend avoiding the anime if you can. The manga is drawn more than well enough for it to be ignored.
I thought it was a great way to end the anime, make you want more, what happens next. It's perfect if they decide to do a season two. Also it makes you want to know what happened, and then you read the manga and are blown away by how crappy the anime seems compared to the manga.
I hated how they left a whole character out of the anime, which would be needed for a season two, you could still work around it, but it would be much crappier.
Yup, watching Isidoro talk about Gatts without realising it's him.. Kinda make me have a funny feeling.. "If only I was in the manga". [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] But somehow, I think he's going to keep it a secret to them until maybe much later.Quote:
Originally posted by: kAi
Actually that would be really cool, if someone there would recognise him.
Saying something like "the 100 man slayer!" or something, that would be awesome, or "the Hawks Raid Commander!"
Btw... kinda entering into an intellectual discussion here...
Do any of you feel, that Gatts in the overall story, is actually the bad guy? He is the protoganist, but he is also the bad guy to the world.
Think of it, he's the only person (bar the Kushan) who wants to kill Griffith. And Griffith isn't the destroyer, but rather the saviour and future King of Midland (The white falcon, and Gatts is the dark falcon), who has crazy dreams of having his own kingdom, and is fated to be the Ruler of the world. Griffith is the saviour of Midland. Though he has skeletons in his closet, but only 2 people knows of them. Gatts and Caska. And every realistic ruler have skeletons.
Griffith has made a decision to become King sacrificing friends and loved one's to reach to the Top. Putting everyone beneath him, and Gatts is the only one in his eyes that he considers equal.. or worth 'saving'. Till the eclipse.
So in a way, Gatts is actually the bad guy of the story, but rather a tragic bad guy. He's not bad per se, but he's not the saviour of the people. Nor the savior of Midland.
Gatts us a nice guy, if you call killing anything that gets in his way, then yeah.
Well, Griiffiths brought out the hell, and Gatts is putting them back in hell.
I think he is a nice guy.
Remember this stoopider.... IN the first ep of the anime... People in the tavern blame Griffith for the mosters and all the havoc...
Not to mention the fact that before Griffith awoke, monsters could not enter the real world if it was not for some major event... Now monsters are wrecking havoc all over ther plave... When Griffith became what he now is, he drew the astral world and the real world closer to each other....
And there is no way in hell that Gatts is evil. He has never cared about people really that much, that's true, but during his journey he has always warned people from getting too close to him, he has also tried to take the hardest and deepest wodden paths to his goal because he never wanted people in the surrounding "getting in his way" but also because he never wants to hurt them...
Gatts has almost never killed anyone who doesn't deserve it or other than what his duty tells him...
Gatts is a brute and he doesn't think, or rather, he never used to think before he acted, but I have seen dramatic changes in his expressions and his way of talking.
ty for the info, i really liked the game, ill look into the manga and anime then
They Did? Too long ago [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]. Haven't seen that in ages. But I don't see how they could have known Griffith was the cause of the resurrection of monsters and convergence of the worlds. Maybe it was because it's the first episode, the author haven't thought things out properly.Quote:
Originally posted by: Shinji Ikari
Remember this stoopider.... IN the first ep of the anime... People in the tavern blame Griffith for the mosters and all the havoc...
No. I didn't say Gatts is evil, rather misunderstood. But as it is, Griffith is the hero, and the savior and soon to be King of the world. But the King of Kushan (though he said, that in the prophecy he should follow the White Hawk, but he also fights against destiny because he's not willing to give up his throne).Quote:
Not to mention the fact that before Griffith awoke, monsters could not enter the real world if it was not for some major event... Now monsters are wrecking havoc all over ther plave... When Griffith became what he now is, he drew the astral world and the real world closer to each other....
If Gatts did kill Griffith, I can't imagine what would happen though. The world may be thrown into chaos. But I think Lord Raban is potrayed for a reason, I think he'll be the one who will take over Griffith's throne.
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Btw.. At the seaside. Who is the child that Caska was carrying? Was it their child? (Gatts and Caska, that has been demonised by Griffith?)
But then.. Isn't Griffith's new body Gatts and Caska's child that was eaten by the egg at the tower where Griffith returned?
It seemed to protect Gatts and Caska as well. Then again, Griffith is unable to kill Caska and Gatts Godo's house when he's body started reacting to Caska, as if a parent to them.
yes, the child is Gatts and Caska's, rightfully.. But due to the rape conducted by Griffith on Caska, the child was polluted with evil and took an easier turn to become evil. This is said by The Skull knight early after the escape out of the hurricane.
And yes, the child was eaten by the egg and did become The new reborn Griffith.
I'm not sure how it protected Gatts, but indeed it did protect Caska... And maybe he can't kill Caska, but he can deffinately kill Gatts, that's the reason why he took the time to meet him at the cliff where all his friends had graves... He wanted to see if Gatts face and anger could sway his heart. But he left saying he was relieved that it couldn't...
But I am quite sure Gatts Sword can sway his heart [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
In the anime the people in the tavern blame Griffith (being the new king) for all the havoc... I don't know exactly what they are poiting at, but seeing as their own city is run by a demon suggests quite a lot to me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
They say that they are the 5 angels. And yes, there would be problems if they died as all of the astral world would be overthrown into a new kind of oblivion... And the real world of Midland would be without a king, that is also true. But I think someone in the resistance will take a major role there, the fat minister whatever his name is will take his chance to come back up again, but he will not take the leading role, probably the guy you mentioned or someone else that will told about later...
I can't even begin to think about what will happen to the princess as though she is madly in love with Griffith... Either she will die, or she will have to accept fate and become the queen alone or with someone else by her side. Probably alone though as though she will not be able to forget about Griffith in a flash of lightning.
One solution is that Griffith would be defeated by Gatts but not really die and then become an ordinary human... And also a good person... But seeing as Gatts would never allow any kind of Griffith alive, that is highly unlikely.
The thing i want to see in the manga as soon as possible though is in order.
1. Serpico and Farnese will continue travelling with Gatts.
2. Caska getting her memories back in the elven village.
3. Gatts will together with Caska if she copes tell the whole story about Griffith and the Hawks.
4. Gatts will without Caska continue his quest to kill Griffith together with the rest of the "band of the owls" [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Gatts isn't the most 'saintly' of people, I'll give it that. He always has thought that people who lack the ability to protect themselves don't deserve to live, but he also has this twisted sense of justice. Way in the early chapters, when he killed that little girl's father (mutated freak that he was), he told her to come back and kill him when she was ready. Though there are some parts where he will protect the weak, he really only repects people who have the will to defend themselves with whatever strength they have, without the aid of outside forces.
Griffith really comes off as the bad guy to me. He's power hungry beyond all imagination, and will use whatever he needs to in order to get there. He used Gatts, Caska and anyone else he needed to. He succumbed to the power that 'true evil' can give him and even had the audacity to come back to the earth to take over the world. He doesn't care about the consequences of his quest for power, so he's making the world hell. Plus he came back even more effeminate than before and looks even more like nobility as if he's some saint (even though he brought hell to earth), and that just pisses me off.
The two of them seem to parallel one of the other God's Hands and the Death/Skull knight, it was pretty obvious from the Selkie chapters, so they obviously don't completely follow the good/evil line like black and white, but in my mind Griffith is completely evil.
And that little psychic girl Griffith's got with him now really creeps me out.
Oh no Stoopieder has been brainwashed by Griffith [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
How can you call Gatts the bad guy ok he kills alot but mostly they are monster or soldeirs he killed in the war or people who makes him fight.
Also just cause the people in midlan is lured by the dream Griffith planted doesnt mean that Griffith will become the king or savior and stuff.
The only thing that makes Guts as bad guy in people eyes are cause of when he kills the apostles they return to thier human form thats the only reason that even the vatican were after him. When people see the real Griffith they will beg for Guts to save them from him [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
hey guys, canyone know where i can find the latest chapters in berserk?
I kept up on it for a while, i always got it from #evilgenius the whole was Theworld but i can't seem to find that now, can you help me? been a while
EDIT: nvm i figured it out lol
www.tokyotosho.com
Use search function and you will have it in your arms in no-time [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
berserk is by far my favorite manga of all time, my only real beef is how SLOW it comes out, it drives me insane. Anyway... I think ishidoro (sp?) well come to know that Gatts was the blackswordman soon, perhaps even from Serpico who is affiliated with nobles more, i think he would know something about Gatts
Ishidoro knows already i think cause he said something about the Black Swordsman when he met Guts and after he have been with him a while he knows for sure.