Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

They take him out of the equation, without knowing what the equation was?

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What's so hard to understand about that.

If I play against 1 player instead of 2, it's obviously easier to plan around.

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Assuming he was an evil cultist (which they don't even know), what if he already set a trap? What if he had allies incoming? What if he is mind controlling Ram and Emilia with some strange power? They basically know nothing and decided to not find out anything more.

They spoke to him for a few sentences and judged him based on that. The moment they felt he was a danger, they should've tried to find out more. At the very least, they should've interrogated him when he was imprisoned. It would not be ideal, but I would at least understand that.

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So what if they had asked him, what would have changed?
It all comes down to Garf not believing him anymore.

Him attacking Subaru the first time they met does have a reason, obviously.
Experience, most likely.
I feel like we are blaming the guard dog for guarding the house.

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Originally Posted by KrayZ33

What's so hard to understand about that.

If I play against 1 player instead of 2, it's obviously easier to plan around.

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It's not hard to understand. It is too simplistic. I already gave examples of why doing it this way could've been an inadequate solution, as well as an inhumane one if the target is indeed innocent.

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Originally Posted by KrayZ33

So what if they had asked him, what would have changed?
It all comes down to Garf not believing him anymore.

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We won't know if it could change anything because they never even tried it, is the problem. Maybe Subaru has a completely valid reason for smelling like a cultist that they can go ahead and verify with Emilia, Ram, and Roswaal. But no one knows because no one tried to find out.

As for your second point, I can understand that. If Garfiel really just branded him as evil and no longer believes anything he says, then it is reasonable for him to not bother interrogating and just went straight into imprisonment. That doesn't mean knocking him out and imprisoning him are moral and acceptable actions, but I think that is unrelated to your point.

At this point, I've said all I can say about this topic, so I'll end my replies here. I feel we will just go around in circles saying the same things, so let's just agree to disagree.

episode 34:

Good episode. The one thing I don't like is that all the witches are SUCH weeb anime clichees. Wished they were more traditional witches. At least Echidnea and Satella fit.

Speaking of which: Once again, ReZero shows its unpredictability: Satelly, the envy witch shows up! Wow. I just wonder why Emilia wasn't there when Subaru woke up. Even if he was unconscious a bit longer, Emilia wouldn't just leave him there on the floor. Weird.

It's nice how we got some expanded lore with those 3 big beasts. Just sucks that Daphne didn't react in any way when Subaru said he killed the whale ... come on, look at least a little shocked!

Wow, okay, that was a lot happening at once.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

I just wonder why Emilia wasn't there when Subaru woke up.

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Maybe that Satella floating around IS Amelia. Maybe the witch possessed her somehow.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

It's nice how we got some expanded lore with those 3 big beasts. Just sucks that Daphne didn't react in any way when Subaru said he killed the whale ... come on, look at least a little shocked!

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I mean, she created the whale and rabbit intending on ending world hunger. It sounds like she didn't intend them to be free, but in any case their purpose IS to die.

When I saw Typhoon I thought "What restraint? Don't touch her? She's harmless!" (last part not true but whatever).

Then Daphne came along and... yeah, take care not to do stupid shit bro.

And Roswaal knows of his revival thing - damn...

Wait, Roswaal knows?! Care to cite the dialogue? Totally missed that. I actually wondered: Did the bunnies eat Roswaal, too? Can't really imagine that guy to die like that lol

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Originally Posted by MFauli

Wait, Roswaal knows?! Care to cite the dialogue? Totally missed that. I actually wondered: Did the bunnies eat Roswaal, too? Can't really imagine that guy to die like that lol

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Post credits Roswaal hugs his copy of the original black book. I'll paraphrase him: "Don't fuck up this time Subaru."

I wonder how the Black Dragon fits in with solving hunger.

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

Post credits Roswaal hugs his copy of the original black book. I'll paraphrase him: "Don't fuck up this time Subaru."

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omg, fuck post credit scenes >__<

thx

That's huge.

episode 35:

I dont get it. Why did Garfiel let Subaru go this time?

My issue with this anime right now is that I have no idea what Subaru is planning. He seems to have a plan, but not knowing about it makes watching him feel a bit too random.

Also I wonder how he intends to deal with, whats her name, the female assasssin. Elza? I guess Beako is stronger if she gets seriosu

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Originally Posted by MFauli

episode 35:
I dont get it. Why did Garfiel let Subaru go this time?

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Because of GAR. The "I know hell" line seems to have convinced him to let Subaru go. It's kinda flimsy considering the alternative is killing him for simply wanting to leave. Fortunately, Garfiel has already been mutilated (as I wished) at least once on screen, so I'm willing to look past his misdeeds.

It was kinda hard to tell, cause it was blurry, but the Witch WAS Amelia, right?

Emilia, yes

Presumably this is what happens when Subaru naps too long talking to Echidna and Emilia somehow gets corrupted by her trial.

So as far as threats go:

-Mansion under threat from Assassin.
-Sanctuary under threat from Great Bunny
-Also Satella.

I liked how the witch was swining her body/head left to right saying "I love you, I love you, I love you - LOVE ME LOVE ME LOVE ME"
spooky.

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Originally Posted by MFauli

episode 35:

I dont get it. Why did Garfiel let Subaru go this time?

My issue with this anime right now is that I have no idea what Subaru is planning. He seems to have a plan, but not knowing about it makes watching him feel a bit too random.

Also I wonder how he intends to deal with, whats her name, the female assasssin. Elza? I guess Beako is stronger if she gets seriosu

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my problem is less with Subaru but more with Beako... and their interaction. Because not knowing Subaru's plan is basically what this Anime is about whenever he is about to solve the "riddle". He kinda gets arbitrary information all the time - like that "Mining rights" stuff back when he made a deal with the other candidates...

But what the fuck was going on there at the last minute or so?

This "You know -I know and I know that you know, that we both know, what's going to happen here"-stuff with Beako

whaaaaaaat? Why? At least the interactions WITH Subaru should remain somewhat constant if they didn't interact with each other AT ALL.

I... guess... Beako does somehow understand Subaru's "Apostle" status (as this is basically the only thing that has changed) and will make a deal with him because he can "release" her from her oath?
I still want to know what "ask her the question" means and all that. I can only hope that they won't forget to mention/include it again...

Does the contents of the book (the one that can tell you the future, or your fate, or something) she holds change whenever Subaru dies... because he changes the future or something? And now Beako has something else written in it, which is why she acted like that?

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Originally Posted by Krayz33

Does the contents of the book (the one that can tell you the future, or your fate, or something) she holds change whenever Subaru dies... because he changes the future or something? And now Beako has something else written in it, which is why she acted like that?

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Yes.

Is my guess.

Episode 36

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Originally Posted by Krayz33

Does the contents of the book (the one that can tell you the future, or your fate, or something) she holds change whenever Subaru dies... because he changes the future or something? And now Beako has something else written in it, which is why she acted like that?

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And... it looks like I was completely wrong.

Interesting to see Elza brute forcing the door thing.




So, we have a few things happening:

1) Someone's sent assassins to the mansion and the village.

2) Frederique is kinda onto something, maybe to do with 1).

3) Emlia, if left to her own devices, becomes unstable and can turn into Satella in the extreme case.

4) Great Rabbit gets summoned one way or another whenever big magic gathers.

5) Garf occasionally gets in the way with his trust issues.

That's some bucket list. An all the while we still don't know what Roswaal wants, so we can't play with his intentions in mind. We also don't know if Roswaal's book is functional.

That shit is getting insane, I like it.

So, the libary inside Roswal's mansion was created by the Witch of Greed, or someone very close to her persona? (Gathering all the knowledge and wanting to know *everything* etc)

How long ago was it when the witches were killed by Satella?

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Originally Posted by Krayz33

How long ago was it when the witches were killed by Satella?

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I think Baeko said her book stopped writing for the past 400 years or something, so I guess around that?

I think Baeko is contracted to the Echidna. No one else really fits the bill. Plus she's got the book, so it's not just any old knowledge hungry person.

This first half of this episode was absolutely INFURIATING, because Roswaal has told him TWICE now EXACTLY what he has to say to Beako. He told him "Tell her to ask the question." then "Tell her you are that person."

What the actual FUCK is the point of doing some of these loops as "information gathering" if you aren't going to be bothered to REMEMBER THE FUCKING INFORMATION YOU GET?!

TWIIIICE!!!

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

I think Baeko is contracted to the Echidna. No one else really fits the bill. Plus she's got the book, so it's not just any old knowledge hungry person.

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...wasn't that pretty much stated?

I mean, it's Echidna's library. Beako is contracted to guard the library. Who else would it be?

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Originally Posted by Buffalobiian

An all the while we still don't know what Roswaal wants, so we can't play with his intentions in mind.

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Hasn't he already said(just not to Subaru) that his goal is killing the Black Dragon?