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8 Platinums?? Feck that, I only have one :PQuote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell
How do platinum trophies work? You have to complete the game 100%?
you have to get all the trophies(achievements) in the game.
It's the same as getting every achievement for a game on 360. You get every trophy in that game to earn a platinum.
Indeed... by the way I meant Atelier Rorona. Atelier Totori just released a few days ago and I still don't have my copy.
I'm currently playing through the Road Map mode in NBA Jam: On Fire Edition. I can't wait to unlock the Seattle Supersonics, so I can play as Shawn Kemp, Detlef Schrempf, and Gary Payton. That was my team in Tournament Edition.
Current playing Dark Souls. So far it hasn't been bad. I've died a total of 4 or 5 times. I just beat the Taurus Demon (which I died twice to) and sniped off the dragon's tail from under the bridge to get the Drake Sword. Although another 2 or 3 of those 5 deaths were from falling to my death trying to dodge roll away from a monster and then off a cliff, the game is more difficult than it's predecessor.
So far it's pretty fun, and quite rewarding. I'd be farther if I had more time to play it.
I've never played any Atelier games.
Does it matter which one i start with? or is there some sort of order that i should play them in.
I started with Atelier Rorona. Never played any Atelier games prior to it. From what I've read they always come in a 'series'. The current series is Arland which began with Rorona, went to Totori and shall end with MeruruQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Dragon
Just played my first Conquest match in the Battlefield 3 beta. They're opening up the Caspian map for this weekend only.
32 vs 32!
Even a laggy as fuck game of Conquest in BF3 is better than every round of infantry-only Rush I played the ENTIRETY of the beta period. I didn't even get into more than two vehicles (drove jeep, rode in jeep). Conquest is just that much better. If I wanted to play CoD, I would play CoD. Conquest is Battlefield.
Dark Souls
conquest = domination / tdmQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryllharu
rush = search and destroy
rush with vehicles > conquest with vehicles
in rush mode, they have a much greater impact and are more meaningful.
and conquest destroys teamplay imho. (on public servers)
everyone runs around, tries to get into vehicles and play TDM
You and I both know it isn't remotely the same. Call of Duty's playstyle encourages camping. Battlefield has always done Conquest better, and they always will. The maps are made better for it, there is tons of open space. Kinda hard to camp in an open field. The way the vehicles work is the key to the difference. In BF, maps are balanced for simultaneous vehicle and infantry play.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
You can't just pop into a tank or plane and think it will make you a god. They make killing things easier, but in no way shape or form do they make you any more effective if you're ganged up on. You're just a much bigger target.
On foot? It's easier to sneak around. You're just a little slower, but you're still a target for anyone with a sniper rifle or a buggy to run you over with.
Fixed that one for you. Free of charge. Because it is a non-issue. You might run off from your squad, but you'll always find another teammate taking flags to run with.Quote:
and conquest destroys squadplay imho. (on public servers)
And then they swiftly lose to those who sneak through the bushes taking flags one after another.Quote:
everyone runs around, tries to get into vehicles and play TDM
In Rush, everyone knows where the enemy will eventually appear. In Conquest, you could be going anywhere. That changes the entire dynamic, and eliminates any advantages from camping and spawn killing.
There's no relentless spawn killing, there's no camping in the corners at the same chokepoints. If you don't continuously move for the flags, you'll still lose. It is trivial for the other team to simply avoid the flag where squatters are hiding, and keep a firm hold on the others. They'll win with 4 held points about as easily as they'll win with 5. Conquest has next to nothing to do with kills. Victory is victory.
oh really?Quote:
There's no relentless spawn killing, there's no camping in the corners at the same chokepoints.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUXdF9u7tHk
Laguna Alta... Actama Desert.
pretty much every snow map.
hell, on most maps the points are on a straight line from north to south, resulting in a big never ending clash in the middle or at the spawn.
and you don't have to go for flags
you take them when you are near them and thats it
and on big maps, all that driving around is exactly what destroys the teamplay in this mode
Rush mode -> 2 objectives, they are close together, everyone in your team tries to get there and everyone else is trying to defend them
conquest mode -> everyone goes to a random flag-point, they will encounter enemies randomly somewhere on the way or not at all and take a flag without any resistance (big maps like harvest day)
small maps -> turns straight into deathmatch, just like it does on Cold War (rush mode)
Just owned the tutorial boss in Dark Souls with my bare hands.
Will get mine in a few hours. Alas... since I don't have a PS3 currently... T_T, bahQuote:
Originally Posted by darkshadow
Wow, a whole thread for gaming :-o
Still playing Xenoblade and Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulation. Have to finish them before Skyward Sword.
I'll get mine Dark Souls at monday. I would have it today but the delivery fucked it up :(
Fucking Best Buy didn't get any Collector's Edition. The store manager refused to acknowledge the mistake and I had to complain online. Customer Service refunded me 15 dollars in the end and apologized for the poor treatment my brother (who picked up the game) received at the store.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xelbair
I got my Collector's Edition on Tuesday from Gamestop. Too bad the metal case was dented a bit, and it fucking had this nasty sticky shit from the stickers.
Haven't played it too much. I'm at around 6 hours and just killed the Capra Demon. Game's pretty easy so far, hear it's gonna change. Will prob put a big chunk of time more into it when I get some :/
Did you get the gutted display copy or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by animus
Nah, it was from their backroom but I didn't check it when I got it (I never really do).
How's Dark Souls from a offline standpoint?
It's great, just like Demon's Souls offline. However, online is where it goes from great to amazing. I haven't found the need to summon any white soapstones for help on a boss yet, but I have killed like 2 dudes trying to invade me.
I saw GiantBomn's Look on Dark Souls. Looks amazing. Too bad I won't have a PS3 until november comes with the Uncharted 3 bundle.
Tip: when removing price/promo stickers, never peel the sticker backwards on itself like you would open a tin can's lid with the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by animus
Rough up the edge of the sticker with your fingernails so you can grab enough leverage, and lift upwards while keeping the sticker taunt. The sticker shouldn't break and leave any bits of paper on there. Residual stickiness is also minimal, and you can get rid of it (if any) but just dabbing the sticker back on and repeat the above steps.
Or buy some Goo Gone:
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I love Goo Gone, but you have to remember to wash it off afterward. It's kerosene after all.
I've also found that peeling a sticker off by getting a corner up and then folding/rolling the sticker across itself to the opposite diagonal corner gets off the most adhesive.
For some years now, I've been into casual tricky games like CatPhysics, Finger Physics, Meon and the likes.
And now a silly (no really) example:
http://www.kongregate.com/games/uvmarko/save-toshi
White spirits does the job if you want to get rid of that sticky crap :D
Playing BF3 Beta and the magic is kind of gone. As recently as 1 month ago I was spending 3-4 hours a day on BFBC2MP. I don't think I like the changes they made in BF3, or maybe I'm just burned out on BF style gameplay. I might cancel my pre-order and spend time on MW3 instead.
MW3 is just the same as MW2 except with different maps and guns. BF3 is where it's at :)
BF3 is just the same as BF1942 just with different maps and guns :rolleyes:
I just found out on the Colbert Report that MW3 will allow you to gain double XP by entering codes from Mountain Dew. I might not buy the game after all.
why would you cancel your BF3 preorder and go for MW3 instead?
thats highly retarded
the only cool thing MW3 has to offer is the co-op mode.
compared to BF3, CoD has
ugly graphics
extremely one-sided gameplay
unlike the older CoDs its totally *not* a "tactical-shooter" anymore
kids, kids everywhere
no vehicles
small maps
*ugly* map design
no atmosphere in MP
etc.
etc.
btw I just watched the review of Dark Souls on Gametrailers
I don't remember Demon Souls to have such bad graphics, in fact I remember it having good animation and graphics for a console game.
but what is this?
the animations and character movements look extremely out of place ?
weird looking armor and anime-fantasy weapons which are way to big to wield and yet it looks like they can lift them as if they were out of paper
I enjoyed MW2 MP a lot more than BFBC2 MP, and that's saying a lot since I logged 9+ days of gameplay over the course of 2-3 months on BFBC2 MP. I got burned out on MW2 MP because I played it for almost 2 years and there really are limited gameplay options compared to BC2. But I prefer the smaller maps and close up firefights of MW2 to the maps of BC2 where you get shot from way out and can't even see by whom.
You like the game you like, but don't be a dick and tell me which is better. The CoD series is king for a reason.
@krayz33
I dunno what you saw, DKS looks better than DS, I also don't see how the animations looked off, most of them are the same just tweaked to look better/be smoother.
Also DS had plenty of huge weapons, like the meat cleaver, so far I've only collected 1 big ass weapon but it requires 46str, not something you carry around like a paper weight; in fact whenever I wield halberts or big axes the attack animation shows my character struggling with it's weight, even though I'm way past the str requirement for any of those weapons. So I'd say everything looks a lot better and fitting now.
For other "anime" esque weapons, I haven't seen any, it's all standard swords/spears and axes.
I liked MW2 MP better than BFBC2 MP. Then again, I don't really think when I play. MW2 MP is fun for me because the killing is really personal. Some guy spams you in the face with twin g18s - you know his tag-name, you know where he was - you wanna get back in there and kill him.
For me, it's easier to get into a game of MW2 and BFBC2 because it's relatively simple. You don't need a team or teamwork. You just need to not be retarded, some knowledge of the map, and a hacks-free server.
But when you do find a good game of BFBC2 that isn't totally one sided or filled with retarded players though - man it's great. Capturing and holding objectives as the bars fill while you try to survive the enemy's tank shells gives you a rush CoD's rambo-playstyle can't give.
Perhaps my main complaint about MW2 in general is that it just feels too clean. The graphics are all polished and so are the guns. You need some grit and terrain to make it really seem like a firefight.
BFBC2 had its own problem - retards that went for kills instead of objectives - while cod was full of them too - they actually did something useful - in bc2 it was common to have full team of camping recons... while being on offense in rush.
Buff - in domination in mw2 you needed to think actually - not in each firefight, but generally you wanted to box enemies on one point in line-setup( A B C points set up in line - ie you have to get A then B if you want to get C), or rotate the points in triangle-setup( you can go from each point to the any other point in this one). And never ever let your team grab all 3 points.
Dark Souls looks a lot better than Demon's Souls and the animation is more fluid. Only negative of the presentation in Dark Souls is that there can be some noticeable frame rate issues (like Blight Town).
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/re...k-souls/721882
decided to post the video
basically the whole part starting from 3:14 till... dunno.. 5:20 or so
the human character looks awfull
and those "cobra" enemies... argh
and that weird huge weapon
its just so unbelievable how he swings/carries his axe and shield when he is just moving around like that
meh, absolutely not what I had in memory but oh well if it has always been like that so be it. I don't like it (anymore) though
underaged children :DQuote:
You like the game you like, but don't be a dick and tell me which is better. The CoD series is king for a reason.
I believe CoD is king because the older ones were great
CoD was good, CoD2 too, CoD:MW was awesome and new, CoD:WaW = meh, CoD:MW2 okay
but CoD:BO is probably the worst of them all and most likely has been sold the most.
must be an american thing or something... or a console thing.
I've seen that video and while it's not the most flattering it still looks a lot better than anything in demon's souls, just play the game yourself.
Also the 2 weird weapons, the super long spear thing and the bendy blue axe, in that video are special, just like the meat cleaver in demon's souls.
Yet you like BF more than CoD? I guess you're ahead of your classmates in 3rd grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
I'm with Buffalobiian, I prefer the more face-to-face confrontations of CoD to the long range warfare in BF. Getting killed by shots from nowhere sucks.
of courseQuote:
Yet you like BF more than CoD? I guess you're ahead of your classmates in 3rd grade.
BF doesn't want to make me feel like a supersoldier from hell with 100% accuracy bunnyjumps around corners
and it won't allow me to start nuclear warfare with 25 knife ninja-instant teleportation kills.
and lets not forget that new diving shit which came with :BO,
and on a sidenote, a tomahawk is not a modern weapon
CoD went from CS-Like to Quake-like
and it went from atmospheric to "funny gimmick" *trollface*
hell, even BF is going more and more into that direction.. and it sucks
and I'm making console and CoD players responsible for that :)
ya right
http://i55.tinypic.com/2zqdkwo.jpg
not.
SKYRIM
I've been playing for about 10 hours now, and I've still only been on what I estimate to be less than 1/8th of the map. Skyrim itself is huge!
The skills/perks system is really well done. Your character grows based on your play style, as before. I've been focusing on assassination shots with a bow, and it's really paying off. The Sneaking HUD/UI is vastly improved over Fallout 3's, and unlike New Vegas, sneaking actually works. So far, most of the enemies are not equipped with supersonic hearing and x-ray vision (like they were in NV's broken stealth system). You get to gradually see if you're hiding properly, made good your escape, or if they are steadily getting closer and closer to understanding where you're hiding.
To go with that, daggers make a great compliment when I can't get a good bow shot. They also have a 6x backstab, that can be increased to 15x! Occasionally, the game will cut to a stylish kill animation much like Fable III or Dragon Age. It's very satisfying to sneak up behind a bandit mage and slit his throat. :p
Problems so far: Inventory management. I'm not hoarding or anything, but unless you get your own residence, you don't get a storage container guaranteed to have your stuff still in it.
I am still waiting for my copy. Stupid shipping...
Did you get any sense of how level scaling works in Skyrim? This was one of the annoyances I had with Oblivion.
Working my way through Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. So far it's been a pretty good game with some minor gripes. I find myself constantly trying to change the camera view but the view is computer-controlled. Sometimes it's difficult to see where I'm to jump because the camera's at a weird angle. Though, those could arguably just be my own failings. And as much as I love Patrick Stewart's voice, his narration can seem a little cheesy at times...but that could just be the script.
Lords of Shadow was fucking amazing keep playing it, by the end you will be totally sucked in; also after you finished it, don't skip the credits ;].
Just finished Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, just in time for Revelations.
I'm guessing you mean enemy scaling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splash!
Overall, the difficulty has been pretty much where it should be. I'm Level 15 now, and if I'm not careful, I die against stronger opponents. In fact, due to my perhaps excessive specialization towards assassination, I die in most melee combat. Anything using a greatsword or warhammer for example (and most two-handed battle axes as well).
Giants require intelligent use of the landscape (making sure they can't get within melee range, they one-shot you). Dragons require distractions so you can get in toward their weak spots, similar to the high dragons in Dragon Age. They do tremendous damage when they're facing you. If you don't hit certain mages fast and hard, they can kill you pretty easily, while others are a piece of cake.
Equipment wise, they're keeping to items at or below my level, with a few "bosses" and bandit leaders possessing the nicer stuff that acts as loot for me. I stole a powerful bow at the cost of well over a dozen lockpicks, and even now enemy archers are still often carrying the lower ranked bows. I'm only now starting to see some of the nice ones creep in (still not as good as mine).
That said, I've had a few enraging encounters. One in particular took me forever to get through, and I ended up using a lot of consumables. And it was just three bandit types. One better than average archer, one two-hander, and a unnaturally strong sword/shield guy. They seemed to each have three times the health of the average enemy in that same dungeon. There are a few other encounters where I have had to reload at least a half-dozen times.
tl;dr: I have found the challenge to be appropriate. Some enemies are a joke, some are very much combat "veterans." I die a lot, but only once did I feel it was unfair.
As a side-note, my character is now a lycanthrope. :D If I use that, then I have no problem killing everything in a room on my own.
I think he wants to know if you go back to kill some "rats", did they become annoyingly stronger or do they get oneshotted (like they should).
Random critters? One-shotted. I can easily kill bears and saber cats now. A large part of that is the perks that improve damage with your chosen weapons.
People? They get a bit stronger. Not all bandits get one shotted unless I'm careful.
That's good to hear.
I read that the system was an improved version of what was implemented in Fallout 3. Now I haven't played Fallout 3 but the system in Oblivion was just far too simplistic. Almost everything and everyone around leveling at pretty much the same rate as yourself doesn't even sound right in theory. Especially when going back and dealing with enemies in previously 'conquered' areas.
From what I understand, the level of enemies in a region is set based on the your level when you enter it for the first time. I guess that pretty much means that the only thing that grows is the unexplored portion of the world. And even then, the scaling isn't linear. So entering a particular new area at level 20 would be somewhat easier than entering the same area at level 5, which makes sense. Of course, this doesn't supposedly apply enemies that randomly pop in like Dragons, but it seems like they have put alot more thought into the whole thing this time.
This is based on what I have read. I have yet to experience any of it myself but from what you said, it sounds like it is a nice mix of challenge and that feeling of accomplishment you get when you have grown enough to one shot certain enemies.
One final detail regarding leveling now that I've beaten a randomly popped dragon and toppled a few more bandit hideouts. I'm now between Levels 18 and 19.
Say you encounter a group of 5 bandits at their hideout. Three of them will be weaker than you, lower quality equipment (sometimes substantially so). These guys are trivial to take out with a single bow shot and only the 3x modifier you get from that. One of the other two will be about your level. You can take him out in two shots. Once with a sneak attack and one regular shot (sometimes it takes three total arrows). Or give him a one-shot via a backstab with a dagger.
The last one will feel significantly higher than you. If he's got a two-handed weapon, he will one-shot you in light armor. If he's got a bow, he will have many more of the perks. The last one I fought like this had the perk that staggers on an arrow hit. This will be at about skill 50. He can easily two-shot you with his bow. Hitting him from a sneak attack will only take about 1/4 of his life bar. He will be a tough opponent no matter what way you decide to take him down. I have to go for the 15x dagger backstab usually. Even that isn't always a one-shot.
So you get a nice difficulty curve on any encountered group. This is improved even over fallout, where each of a group are all sort of the same, only equipment differs.
I've been playing Borderlands a bit
It's pretty cool, like a more fun to play version of Fallout 3.
I enjoyed both but Borderlands is a lot more whimsical and therefore less involving and meaningful than Fallout 3. I enjoyed Bioshock 2 more than 1 because of this feeling and what I felt was a better story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
I agree. FO3 was way more serious. I didn't have as much fun, and stopped playing in the end because I couldn't find this place on the map. (that's unrelated though, sort of).Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
My Lilith with heaps of critical and elemental damage + SMGs ruled that world. Still have to finish playing the expansion packs I bought for it. The tournament one is actually pretty hard. Or I just suck at fighting aliens.
Can't wait for Borderlands 2. Let's hope ATI drivers won't have so much of a problem with them this time.
I wanted to play Bioshock 2, but I was trying to get through Bioshock first. It's just so non-engaging though.. I don't know if it'll ever happen.
Currently Playing:
- Nintendo 64: Ogre Battle 64
- SNES: Chrono Trigger
- XBOX 360: just bought it and have yet to use it ..
I'm on Chapter 10 now so I'm almost at the end and it does seem to get better the further I go in the game. I'll make sure not to skip the credits, thanks :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by darkshadow
I'm currently playing YOOOO MAARVEEELL!!...ultimate! ;D
I started playing Castle Crashers again after hearing about the Blacksmith and Pink Knight DLC's. I'm currently replaying stages trying to pick up weapons that I don't have. I just got the Unicorn Horn from the painter.
Going old school with some Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past. With the release of the newest Zelda game fast approaching (and the Zelda texture pack for Minecraft I recently downloaded), I've been craving some Zelda action. And since I don't have the proper controller for an N64 emulator (for Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask) which I really wanted to play, I have to settle with the SNES game. Not that it's bad or anything, cause I always liked it... I just liked OoT much more, and I never beat MM.
Just wrecked stage 9-B in rRootage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDG0VPluJ4
Finished LOS on Friday and what a crazy last chapter. And thanks for the head's up on not skipping the credits. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by darkshadow
Hehe it was great wasn't it ;D.
In between various long term sessions of Skyrim, I've been playing Saints Row The Third. It's basically everything I wanted GTA4 to be, only GTA4 turned out to be really boring in all of its trappings of realism. SR3 doesn't give a shit about realism, so it feels a lot more like the true spirit of GTA (1 through S.A.). Funny considering the franchise started as a ripoff of GTA.
It's a hell of a lot of fun to be a gansta. I upgraded a motorcycle so powerful I can barely control it.
I fly into cars Dukes of Hazard Style when I'm stealing them (and got an achievement for doing so). Then I run over people, wait for the cops to show up, grab one of them and use him as a human shield while I shoot the others. Then I run away, steal a jetski, crash it, steal a flatbed truck (jumping through the windshield this time), and plow through the cop cars on my way home to safety.
Or if I just get bored walking on the street, I switch to fists, and through a set of quick time events, elaborately beatdown some random schmuck. It's really engaging and satisfying.
All while wearing a superhero costume, or nothing at all for some streaker hilarity. And just like Skyrim, I've been avoiding the main storyline. I've just been running around town.
So yeah, it's fun.
http://i.imgur.com/TvDvd.jpg
Gettin my weeboo on motherfuckers!
Been playing Dungeon Defenders with 3 friends since it was on sale a day or two ago. It's pretty damn fun, and time consuming to boot.
I played through Portal the other day and it was a pretty neat game. I've heard Portal 2 is even better...has anyone here played it?
Probably most of us.
I wouldn't say 2 is better though, they stand in equal awesomeness.
Yeah, I'm kinda behind the curve when it comes to most games, lately. The only just got a 360 earlier this year so most of what I play on my own is "old". New games (like Arkham City) I usually play with my cousin on his PS3.
So you would say Portal 2 is worth a play through, eh? I'll have to check it out.
people even say its worth the full price (i don't agree though..)
its a lot of fun, but I wouldn't pay ~50$ for it.
Wait for those steam christmas deals, it will be sure to be in there somewhere.
Portal 2's fun, but I'd say it's a little behind Portal. Just a little.
It's such a good game! Incredibly addictive too.Quote:
Originally Posted by animus
Very few games are worth full price, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
depends on how much money is avaible for you, or how much you want to spent on games
can't say I regret buying games like
shogun 2 : 180h played so far
BF3 : 65h played so far
Witcher 2: (dunno how much playtime)
MW2 : 160h+
etc. etc. at full price
it's 1-3h playtime for 1€ most of the time.
sure thing, I could have waited for witcher 2 and shogun 2 to get cheaper (no real MP or no MP at all) but if the game looks great and it gets somewhat decent revies 80+/100
I don't have to think twice
other people might say "screw it" and wait.
Time to walk around as Ezio Auditore again, but this time in Revelations. :3
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9314/gundamcover.jpg
Anyone importing or have Gundam Extreme VS?
Planning on getting my copy come start of '12.
I don't want to start a thread for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9mUe...layer_embedded
but doesn't it look awesome?
that archangel @ 0:50 with that badass looking 2h hammer and the halo above its head
nice artstyle
I wish the whole game would look like this.
Diablo is a Blizzard trademark as well? Damn, those guys have a whole lot of shit going on.
What are you, 12? How could you not know this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
saw a C&C Generals 2 teaser today too... and it uses the frostbite2 engine (BF3)
can't wait for that either
Friend of mine is in japan atm, told him to bring it for me when he gets back ;D. Also asked him for srw og 2nd but for some goddamn reason that game isn't out yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bagandscalpel
Most games I wait until the price drops to a comfortable level. I waited before I picked up Castlevania LoS at $40 for the collector's edition because I couldn't pass it up at that price. But I did I pick up MvC 3 brand new because I wanted the collector's edition and I knew the likelihood of picking one up at a later date would be pretty rough. The only game I see in the near future that I will not wait for is the new Bioshock because I absolutely adored the first 2 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
The VGA Awards trailer of Mass Effect 3 is making me real disappointed in Bioware.
Completed both TTT & TTT2 Prologue the other day, I wonder if anyone else picked up Tekken Hybrid? They did a good job on remastering except for it lacking online play.
Planning on picking up ICO again for the last 4 trophies which is fun but will be difficult.
Check the fighting games thread^.
I've been playing the Gotham City Impostors Beta on PS3. Fumigation mode is pretty fun, but I won't be buying the full game.
Y'all need to buy this, i'm just sayin
http://store.steampowered.com/app/70400
Or...if you buy Recettear anywhere else, it is DRM free. Per the Localization company site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
(Yes, I've actually bought it twice because of this. DRM-free = win.)
I got Cryostasis and Singularity on sale on Steam today. It should be a scary Christmas holiday.
for what reason?Quote:
Or...if you buy Recettear anywhere else, it is DRM free. Per the Localization company site.
(Yes, I've actually bought it twice because of this. DRM-free = win.)
it's not like there are any problems with steam
Because you can put it on any number of machines, use it anywhere or any time and perhaps most importantly, copies could be played simultaneously?
Steam is acceptable DRM, but it is still DRM. The fact that Recettear on steam has DRM while the other two stores offer it without any makes steam the inferior version.
As i said so many times on irc, you CAN put in on any number of machines, you just need to set steam to offline mode... yet you always forget that.
what makes you think you can't install the game on any number of machines
and if you want to it to be played simultaneously, you might as well tell your friends to pirate it.
its unimportant anyway, since there is no multiplayer you could play over hamachi or something like that
I love how people rationalize the steam platform's weaknesses as somehow being benefits, or completely inconsequential. I simply cannot fathom that people extol the virtues of vendor lock-in.
DRM is DRM. Period. The choice is there, other stores offer a better than steam's. Recettear doesn't even have achievements, so there's really no advantage to getting the steam version over the other stores.
So the alternative to steam must be piracy, even when there are clear legal alternatives? Nice whitewashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Oh, and roommates, family members, or significant others play games too. You know, people in the same household?
I won't say anything on this subject anymore - we will run in circles again. Still - complaining about DRM that you can literally turn off...
Well, how the saying goes - Hater's Gonna Hate.
Ryll's point is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xel
-You have one version that has DRM, but you can turn it off
-You have one version that doesn't have DRM period.
Even if one of them has a work-around, the version that doesn't even need it is superior by default. Until pricing factors in anyway.
Note that while I agree and can see one of them as superior, I don't necessarily view the other as being unacceptable.
Bought Limbo the other day for $2.50, and Amnesia yesterday for $5.
Should I get Fable III?