yea he's gonna send him to a concentration camp in poland, i forgot the name which really is a shame cause tis the most known one.
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yea he's gonna send him to a concentration camp in poland, i forgot the name which really is a shame cause tis the most known one.
Auswitch & Birgenowen? it's the most famous one, the 60 years anniversery for it's end was held there today...
it wasn't just a concentration camp, if it's auswitch you're talking about then it's a death camp, with gas chambers and cramtorioums and everything else involved...
then again, it might be varsaw/warsaw, not sure on the spelling, it's the most important concentration camp...
anyway, i've heard that he has to watch "Shindler's List", go figure.
and about the 'god killed him becuase he took the swatizka and changed it" rumor - that's the best reason to be an atheist i heard this year... hitler opened a war of over 30 million deads, about 10 Miliion of them is organized death camps, and got kills him cuase he changed the symbol a bit?
and to the topic itself, I like the manga better, it has less bullshit and more guts, but it might only be because i've read the manga first and then the anime didn't have the suprise factor to leave an impact on me, who knows, who cares?
wasnt it just a fancy dress party thing, i didnt think itd be that important, but then he is always in the media and he has a respected position, so i guess itd be the same as the president of a country wearing one, people wouldnt like it
yea i like the manga better for the same reason as BOO Z, but i do like the anime cos of the music, and the fights are (usually) well animated, the anime would be tops for me if the left some of the gore in.
The word is derived from the Sanskrit "svastika" and means "good to be". In Indo-European culture it was a mark made on people or objects to give them good luck.
It has been around for thousands of years, particularly as a Hindu symbol in the holy texts, to mean luck, Brahma or samsara (rebirth). It can be clockwise or anti-clockwise and the way it points in all four directions suggests stability. Sometimes it features a dot between each arm.
Nowadays it is commonly seen in ancient Hindu architecture, and in the ruins of the ancient city of Troy. It has also been used in Buddhism and Jainism, plus other Asian, European and Native American cultures
The British author Rudyard Kipling, who was strongly influenced by Indian culture, had a swastika on the dust jackets of all his books until the rise of Nazism made this inappropriate. It was also a symbol used by the scouts in Britain, although it was taken off Robert Baden-Powell's 1922 Medal of Merit after complaints in the 1930s
But it is its association with the National Socialist German Workers Party in the 1930s which is etched on the minds of Western society. Before Hitler, it was used in about 1870 by the Austrian Pan-German followers of Schoenerer, an Austrian anti-Semitic politician.
Its Nazi use was linked to the belief in the Aryan cultural descent of the German people. They considered the early Aryans of India to be the prototypical white invaders and hijacked the sign as a symbol of the Aryan master race.
just a little history for you
mostly taken from bbc research
Auschwitz-Birkenau was a hybrid. It started as a Konzentrationslager (concentration camp) and was later, after the first Vernichtungslager (death camps) were built, "upgraded" (i know, bad choice of words, but I can't find a more suitable) to a death camp. It is counted as a death camp nowadays, but commonly Konzentrationslager is used as a generic term, including Vernichtungslager (death camps), Arbeitslager (work camps), Sammellager (gathering camps?), Durchgangslager etc.Quote:
Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
Auswitch & Birgenowen? it's the most famous one, the 60 years anniversery for it's end was held there today...
it wasn't just a concentration camp, if it's auswitch you're talking about then it's a death camp, with gas chambers and cramtorioums and everything else involved...
then again, it might be varsaw/warsaw, not sure on the spelling, it's the most important concentration camp...
anyway, i've heard that he has to watch "Shindler's List", go figure.
It is, along with Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, Eberswalde, Dachau and Bergen-Belsen one of the best known, as it not only had the highest body count, but also "medical" experiments.
The other death camps were Belzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, Maly Trostinez, Sobibor and Treblinka btw. Although these were the ones that were built als death camps right from the beginning and have, in the case of Treblinka for example, a body count that isn't that much below Auschwitz-Birkenau, most of them are little heard of.
I have no idea how Warschau (warsaw?) is the most important one. Warschau had a huge ghetto district that is well known, but its KZ is rather unknown.
the main difference I see is the extremely crappy art in the anime that doesn't exist in the manga.
the main difference I see are the incredible moving pictures with colors that don't exist at all in the manga.
Seriously though, I'm pretty much with Kagari. I got no problem with people who like the manga more, and like to read it. It's their own choice, as long as they don't keep opening their fucking mouths and TELL me shit before it happens in MY choice of medium.
And yeah, the worst ones are the manga readers that pretend not to be manga readers and then "guess" whats going to happen next in the discussion threads, when really they are just telling people what they read because they want to look smart.